evile: (Pippi Longstocking)
This is a GREAT discussion!

http://community.livejournal.com/polyamory/2188917.html

I especially like the list provided by one of the posters:

from http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/6278/25_ways_to_tell_if_your_relationship.html

25 Ways to Tell if Your Relationship is Toxic
1) Your partner puts you down verbally, in private or in front of others.
2) Your partner tells you he/she loves you but behavior shows otherwise.
3) Your partner doesn't want you to see or talk to friends or family.
4) Your partner is jealous of the time you spend with your kids. [pets, hobbies, etc.]
5) Your partner shows up often at your work unexpectedly or opens your mail.
6) Your partner calls you often to see what you are doing.
7) You cry often or feel depressed over your relationship.
8) Your partner says you would have the perfect relationship if only you would change.
9) Your partner wants you to be dependent on him/her.
10) Your partner does things for you and then uses them to make you feel obligated.
11) Your thoughts, opinions, accomplishments, or words are devalued.
12) You don't know who you are anymore without him/her, or how you would survive.
13) Your friends/family don't like your partner or don't think he/she is good for you.
14) You have changed things about yourself to suit your partner, even when it is not your taste.
15) You always go where your partner wants to, like movies, restaurants, etc.
16) Your partner has made you feel afraid or unsafe, and you have been afraid to speak the truth at times for fear of upsetting him/her (walking on eggshells).
17) You don't feel you have control of your life anymore.
18) Your self-esteem is lower since you've been with your partner.
19) You think it's up to you to make the relationship work.
20) You keep secrets about your relationship from others who love you because they wouldn't understand.
21) Your partner makes you feel unattractive or stupid.
22) Your partner accuses you of cheating and is overly jealous.
23) Your partner can be really sweet to you one minute, and really mean the next.
24) Your partner seems really sweet/loving to you when he/she thinks you are about to leave the relationship, or after he/she has been mean to you.
25) You can't remember the last time you felt happy for more than a few days straight. 

If you need help with your relationship, talk to a friend or family member, a clergyman, a counselor, or call your local mental health center. If you are in danger, help is available at The National Domestic Violence Hotline, (800) 799-SAFE, where someone can put you in touch with ... shelters and other resources. Remember, no one can take care of you as well as YOU can. Get the help you need. 
evile: (Poly)
http://www.polyamorousmisanthrope.com/?p=34

Being Used

Posted by: Goddess of Java in relationships, boundaries

Relationships can be good and fulfilling things — no doubt about it. They can bring joy, help and mutual comfort to all involved.

However, there is a problem. People are people.

Sometimes they’re just fine people.

Sometimes they’re rescuers.

Sometimes they’re users.Read more... )
evile: (future)
I was browsing through friends' LJs and memories and such and I found this quote. It's brilliant and perfect for today:

from http://zoethe.livejournal.com/170683.html:
Read more... )
According to Webster's Dictionary, drama is "a state, situation or series of events involving intense conflict or force." Passion, on the other hand, is defined as "a devotion to some activity, object or concept." Read more... )
evile: (declutter)
 

 

    14 Nov. 10:56 am

     

     

    Apparently L&B and [Cousin B] did brunch w/[brother A] & [rubber_pig] on SAturday. They were
    an hour and a half late & just brought the baby. [Aunt L] fed the baby and
    ignored the conversation. [brother A] didn't ask [Cousin B] how he was or anything,
    just told him his hair was just like [brother A]'s at that age, and then [brother A]
    said something like 'you're a sophomore now, right?"

    ugh. I'm glad I missed it.

evile: (clutter)

    Oct. 28, 2005

     

     

    evile: tGIF, baybeeeee! Phone duty from HECK
    SkyeDS: nods. tedious stuff today.
    evile: I had a caller, nicest guy in the world, english NOT his first
    language, we both got very frustrated.
    evile: Oh well, less than 1.5 hours and I'm gone for the weekend.
    eyes on the prize :)
    SkyeDS: nodnods
    evile: Enjoyed a greatly successful evening wearing my new jeans, new
    pink lacey froufrou underthings (and getting out of them) :)
    evile: I mailed [G/stepdad/sineater's dad]'s card & present yesterday, emailed him this
    a.m. and hopefully will find/make time to call him later today.
    SkyeDS: nod. I'm going to remind sineater, he might not need it, but
    better safe than sorry. He's had a surfeit on his mind lately
    evile: *nod*
    evile: That kind of stuff is far more important to him than [G/stepdad/sineater's dad] lets
    on.
    SkyeDS: I know he's long since had [G/stepdad/sineater's dad]'s presents and stuff, I think
    it's just a matter of making sure they get to him
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I hope Roboho doesn't take issue with my answer to her
    question in my LJ
    evile: ?
    SkyeDS: she asked me how do you convince a horse you're boss
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and I explained that you don't, but what you do instead, and
    why
    evile: I don't think she's used to dealing with creating win-win
    situations. Her own personal life seems to be a series of contests of
    will, which she MUST win at all costs.
    SkyeDS: well, she'll have to get over that if she really wants to ride
    evile: *shrug* I've long since quit bothering with her.
    evile: Today has been a lovely day of boundary testing. kaleon tried
    to drag me into some drama, Mom tried to talk to me about the Pig's
    youngest child...ugh.
    evile: I asked kaleon to unfriend me in LJ. I can't stop him from
    reading me, but I've never friended him back, and I can certainly
    limit my public posts to non-drama-creating items.
    SkyeDS: kaleon doesn't seem to understand the words "move on." Which
    I have, but anyway.
    SkyeDS: what is with your Mom and [the rubber pig]? I thought she was done :(
    evile: Mom was telling me about the baby,and seeing pictures, and bla
    bla, and I just can't take that. I can't. I'm sorry, it's not the
    kids fault, but I can't
    SkyeDS: why is it that common sense is so f'ing uncommon?
    SkyeDS: why would you encourage yourself to become attached when
    there's nothing you can do?
    evile: exactly.
    evile: Why, yes, Mom, I'd love to put my hand in the blender and let
    [the rubber pig] turn it on.
    SkyeDS: as for the other...what did he think was going to happen when
    he is constantly claiming sineater's place (as my husband) and then
    sineater's artwork as his own?
    SkyeDS: although I find it amusing truly that sineater got more upset at
    the artwork than the other ROFL, I know, I'm easily amused
    evile: I don't have a clue about any of that...I really actually
    don't.
    SkyeDS: I wish folks (kaleon, your Mom, everyone else) would just
    *think* every now and again
    SkyeDS: like, with the logical parts of their brains, and not
    whatever other part of their anatomies theyy're thinking with (or not)
    evile: Well, and with Mom, why set me up? Tell me about [brother A]'s latest
    fuck up trainwreck bullshit and I can't help but feel angry and
    negative...she has told me she doesn't care to hear my negative
    opinions, so why does she bring him and his life up?
    evile: I don't have anything nice to say, I don't want to say
    anything at all. But if that's all you'll fucking talk about, what am
    I supposed to do?
    SkyeDS: nods (been there done that many tshirts). I have no answer,
    only empathy and sympathy.
    evile: kaleon sent me this faux-sympathetic thing because of
    the 'happy birthday' I posted to [brother A] on the 26th. He assumed it was
    for sineater.
    SkyeDS: because, you know, "A" ... as in "Brother A" stands for sineater
    SkyeDS: sineater starts with the letter A
    evile: *shrug* he doesn't know me, or anything about me, and just
    keeps on making assumptions and trying to get me in shit with y'all.
    And I am working VERY hard on staying OUT of shit with y'all.
    SkyeDS: I figured he thought all that abuse stuff you posted for [brother A]
    was really for sineater
    SkyeDS: he didn't start with the "abuse" and "torture" language until
    after that
    SkyeDS: pointyheaded, I believe you called it ;)
    evile: If y'all are going to be pissed off at me, I'd just as soon
    have you pissed off at me for something I actually did or said, not
    some ASSholes ASSumptions.
    SkyeDS: I can't control sineater's emotions. He can't control them
    either for that matter. But you need not worry about me.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I shouldn't let it get to me.Some people just have an
    exagerated sense of their own importance...I dont' have the time or
    energy for the grandiose machinations people are attributing to me.
    SkyeDS: I know he feels that any relationship with you and kaleon is
    like him still being cordial with Xtal.
    SkyeDS: I told him, well, if you feel that way, maybe you should say
    that, I'm s ure she'd understand that.
    SkyeDS: something tells me he didn't, did he
    evile: what 'relationship' is all i fuckin wanna know.
    SkyeDS: kaleon has been bandying about that you hug him, call him
    honey, etc
    evile: I can't control who has me friended on LJ or, to some extent,
    who posts in my LJ
    evile: I haven't seen him since he lived in Austin. When we were
    friends, I certainly did, but that's been...what? 2-3 years?
    SkyeDS: I think he's trying to get at me
    SkyeDS: but all he's succeeding in doing is pissing sineater off
    SkyeDS: not a bright boy <Shrugs>
    evile: well, whatever. If sineater wants to give kaleon that kind of
    power, that's sad, but his business.
    SkyeDS: well, I don't understand why he's still showboating to get my
    attention.
    evile: Likewise, if he'd rather believe a stranger than family, it's
    hurtful as hell, but I suppose I deserve it. No matter how much I
    behave now, it'll never erase the famous Scorpio grudge.
    SkyeDS: he isn't going to get it.
    SkyeDS: I don't read his journal, I don't care if he reads mine, I
    know he does (counters tell you that kind of t hing and he isn't
    smart enough to hide his isp)
    SkyeDS: I'm not going to friends only my LJ because he's reading it
    SkyeDS: and i'm not going to censor what I say so t hat he doesn't
    take it personally
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I don't personally choose to react the way sineater has. But
    then, my place hasn't been usurped nor my talent laid claim to, and I
    understand why sineater feels and does what he does.
    SkyeDS: that's the way he's made.
    SkyeDS: it isn't the way I'm made.
    SkyeDS: and kaleon's cruisin for a bruisin if he doesn't stop
    <shrugs> but then he knows that, he's been here and done this
    before.
    evile: *shrug* and either of them laying any of this at my doorstep
    is giving me much power and credit that is not mine. I could give a
    shit, really.
    SkyeDS: peckerlength competition ya think?
    SkyeDS: I think, when sineater gets to t he point of hunting him down to
    kill him, maybe I won't stop him this time. That would certainly be
    one effective way (if not my preferred way) of ending the drama.
    evile: they can wag their weiners all they want at one another, just
    leave me the hell out of it. I have this thing called a life and
    these cool folks called friends, and I don't care to give my time or
    energy to that kind of nonsense.
    evile: As I told sineater, if you have the time/energy to dig so hard for
    stuff to fight with people about, you must be doing very well and
    I'm happy for that, even if I'm sad that you're mad at me.
    SkyeDS: I told him if he wanted you to understand where he was coming
    from (silly me, I get hung up on communicating doncha know) that he
    should tell you what he told me about it being like the situation
    with Xtal.
    evile: *shrug* I'm sorry he feels that way, but as you say, it's for
    him to discuss with me.
    SkyeDS: I should know by now to keep my gemini communicating self out
    of shit
    evile: being misunderstood and/or blamed for things that aren't mine,
    make me want to overcommunicate. Be mad at me, fine, but do it for
    the right reasons.
    SkyeDS: please don't take this personally or intended as offense, it
    is just my observation that the Stephan family does not appreciate
    communication.
    evile: *shrug*
    evile: I'm not a Stephan, why would that offend me?
    SkyeDS: I just figured it would probably come across the wrong way
    SkyeDS: I do that often ya know
    SkyeDS: ok, I'm sorry, but I'm still laughing about Brother A = sineater,
    and sineater's birthday isn't till next Friday (what a dumbshit) ROFL
    evile: You're entitled to your opinion, and I think you're right.
    It's pretty hard to communicate with a person who is standing there
    with their hands over their ears screaming 'la la la' which is pretty
    much how I feel whenever I try to deal w/sineater
    evile: I still love him, would do anything for him, but for my sanity
    and happiness, I can't be involved in his life or these needless
    fights he seems to pick with people
    SkyeDS: I suppose it would be feeding the trolls to post how funny I
    think that is in my LJ
    SkyeDS: I know, bad Skye, bad. I won't do it, but it's funny to
    think about it all the same.
    SkyeDS: "oops! did I say that outloud? was that my outside voice?
    I'm s orry, I have Tourettes, you must forgive me." ;P ROFL
    evile: I told kaleon he needed to not assume things, and then he
    decided to throw ancient history in my face (because there is no
    CURRENT history, do you understand) and at that point I said, "can
    you please unfriend me?"
    SkyeDS: he has diarrhea of the mouth disease...otherwise known as
    open mouth before engaging brain disease
    SkyeDS: the w hole reason sineater thinks that there is current
    relationship is because kaleon told him so
    evile: whatever.
    evile: You can't prove a negative, and I'm not going to give him any
    more ammo if I can help it.
    SkyeDS: nevermind that kaleon is not a trustworthy source of
    information, as I thought was well established, but what do I know
    SkyeDS: I need one of those trendy black tshirts with white writing
    that says I don't know, and I didn't do it
    SkyeDS: I told you about running into a complete stranger who is part
    of Rockdale's Roping Circle that told me that everyone in t he entire
    Circle knows I'm a bitch for a proven fact even though none of them
    have ever met me?
    evile: that's unfortunate.
    SkyeDS: so I guess I can't wear my desired "not a bitch, The Bitch,
    and that's MS BITCH to you" tshirt
    evile: if that's not a label you wish people to apply to you, you
    probably shouldn't apply it to yoruself, no.
    SkyeDS: the whole thing is just too fucking funny (because I'd rather
    laugh than cry or be angry about it)
    SkyeDS: you talk about [brother A] being abused, kaleon assumes you're
    talking about sineater, and of course if sineater is abused, t hen kaleon was
    abused, and then he tells Chris Loy that I'm torturing sineater
    SkyeDS: and she believes an ex that I left what, three times? I lost
    count
    evile: *shrug* and all of this is my fault, HOW?
    SkyeDS: and she says she wants to believe it isn't true but does she
    ask sineater, who would know better than kaleon?
    SkyeDS: of course not
    evile: So people need to leave me the hell out of it.
    SkyeDS: I've already told him that because these people choose to
    make you a hub doesn't mean you chose to be a hub willingly
    evile: I am nice to chrisloy becuase we have friends and groups in
    common.
    evile: kaleon has me friended on his LJ, I have ZERO control over who
    friends me. there are complete strangers I've never met who have
    friended me. Who knows why?
    SkyeDS: this is turning into that game in school where you whisper
    one thing into someone's ear, it goes around the classroom and is
    something completely different at the end.
    evile: Well, I want out of it. I don't have the time,energy, or
    inclination to devote to participating in The Crazy.
    evile: If sineater feels he has the time and energy to give to those
    people and fighting and fussing, that's fine. But I don't.
    SkyeDS: I think he was doing a good job (for him anyway) of ignoring
    it, until the artwork thing.
    evile: I honestly can't tell you the last time I talked to either
    CHris or kaleon, Or Kili, for that matter
    SkyeDS: But that's just too close to his heart.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: every time he gets depressed, he goes to ritually sacrifice
    his art, and I have to stop him (because that of course is ridiculous)
    evile: [brother A] used to do the same
    SkyeDS: that's like me saying, I'm depressed, so I'm going to burn
    all my music books and my piano in a big bonfire and then kill my
    children
    evile: preaching to the choir.
    SkyeDS: I am happy to see that he is embracing his art again ( you
    should see the leatherwork he did recently, and I think you saw the
    dragon he did for faire)
    evile: nope.
    SkyeDS: he painted a dragon on 24 x 36 cardboard that hobby lobby
    puts behind its posters
    SkyeDS: and it was awesome
    evile: cool.
    SkyeDS: anyway, I'm glad he's embracing his art again, I just think
    that part of that is that kaleon went too far this time
    SkyeDS: and I'm happy to see the good, even if the bad comes with it.
    evile: *nod* It's better to channel your energy into creative things
    SkyeDS: and if *I* were anything like what I'm reputed to be, I would
    be pissed by now that sineater got pissed over artwork and not over being
    usurped as my husband ROFL
    evile: One is probably more provable than the other, objectively and
    in court and such.
    SkyeDS: some women would be pissed that a man's artwork was seemingly
    more important to him than his wife.
    SkyeDS: and I am said to be one of those women LOL
    evile: I grew up in a household where Art was always more important
    than people/relationships, so that just doesn't seem wierd to me, at
    all.
    SkyeDS: one of these days, the lies are going to come back to haunt
    him.
    SkyeDS: sooner or later
    SkyeDS: probably sooner as egregious as he's been about it
    SkyeDS: and anyone who on the strength of what he says online
    believes that we were married, that I abused him (particularly after
    he abused me to the point of having sineater and sonar0m call the cops on
    him more than once)
    evile: I just wish he'd get therapy, get help, be happy with his own
    life and achievements, and not have to waste so much time and energy
    on fighting to make himself feel worthwhile.
    SkyeDS: or any other silly thing he says, is going to get what they
    deserve for their stupidity too
    SkyeDS: I don't understand why there are so many women who believe
    him a nd are seemingly turned on by this, but whatever.
    evile: As entertainingly trainwrecky as it is, I'm not reading his
    LJs anymore, even if he keeps me friended.
    evile: And no matter how sad and pathetic he is, I won't chip in with
    any words of encouragement.
    SkyeDS: I will be the first to admit that it was very hard to not
    look at his LJ when I was bored.
    SkyeDS: because it IS ROFL funny
    SkyeDS: but it is just, I don't know what words to use, because sad,
    pathetic, whatever, just aren't enough, but yeah, those things, that
    he reads my LJ and thinks I read his, or that I still give a damn.
    evile: I have better things to do with myself. I'm sorry as hell if
    sineater is upset, because I love him...but I am not going to be in the
    middle of any of that silly stuff.
    SkyeDS: I understand now that he thinks the readings I do for people
    who wish to remain anonymous are all about him
    SkyeDS: give it long enough, sineater will find something else to be
    upset about, a nd forget about all this.
    SkyeDS: that's what usually happens anyway
    evile: yup
    evile: and, honesty, the silent treatment from sineater is not all that
    different from 'normal relationship with sineater'...so *shrug*
    SkyeDS: it woudl be very bad and troll feeding to poke public fun of
    someone who thinks that sineater starts with A
    SkyeDS: very bad
    SkyeDS: back AWAY from the keyboard.
    SkyeDS: I can resist anything! (but temptation :P)
    evile: I think you have better things to do with your time. Nose
    hairs or toenails to attend to, perhaps?
    SkyeDS: I know.
    SkyeDS: no kitty on the keys, no no no
    evile: It takes a longer for satisfaction for being a mature
    responsible adult to set in, than it does to indulge in childish
    spitefulness, but in the long run, it *does* feel better. I know.
    I've been there, done that.
    SkyeDS: eventually I'll get some other irresponsible urge and forget
    about this one
    SkyeDS: although I can be very singleminded for an easily distracted
    double gem. But then I do have as much earth in my chart as air,
    almost as many of my signs are in Taurus as in anything else.
    SkyeDS: what aggravates me is, I thought that's part of what my LJ
    was for, indulging myself in things I shouldn't express elsewhere.
    SkyeDS: I hate not being able to say what I want when I want because
    somebody else is being pointyheaded.
    evile: yeah, but then friends lock it, silly-head.
    evile: or mark it 'private'
    SkyeDS: <pouts> but that's no fun <slides outside of arm's length>
    evile: Your friends are the only ones who will laugh and appreciate
    it ANYWAY, so why not friends lock stuff that will only be drama-
    fodder if left public, is the way I see it.
    SkyeDS: no wonder people get mad at me for being the voice of reason
    all the time
    SkyeDS: :P
    evile: And of course I friends lock everythign about 'where I'm going
    and what I'm doing'
    SkyeDS: reason sucks :P
    evile: most of the time, yup
    evile: well, I'm going to run past the girls room before I clock out,
    so I'm gone. Y'all have a good weekend.
    SkyeDS: I know that this is not a laughing matter to you or sineater, and
    I'm not trying to be insensitive
    SkyeDS: I just think the whole thing is funny
    SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)
    evile: I'm sure it'll be funny to me after a while too. :) see ya!

evile: (clutter)

    Sep. 9, 2005

     

     

    Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 10:02:48 -0700 (PDT)
    From: mom
    Subject: Re: Armchair Psychology: [Rubber Pig]
    To: me

    You are so smart. Not that I would have done anything
    differently, but you were right about everything. I
    wrote a letter to the CPS caseworker today and
    included the borderline mother outline in it. I hope
    she sees [Rubber Pig] in it. I hope to hell they get some
    help! I'm okay now with the girls being taken out of
    the home. It kills me to see Yummy's spirit broken,
    and Lyrah sink farther and farther into her quiet
    depression. It even hurts me to see Blis given this
    "power," which she cannot handle in any way. Mostly,
    I think about Sadie. Sweet baby girl. I'm glad that
    everyone is good to her now, except [Rubber Pig]. If [Rubber Pig]
    died tomorrow, I would not be sad.

    I'm going to be busy, as the tree thing is a go and
    I'm going to ask the PC commissioners if I can use
    their space for children's theatre--Nesbit and LaPurr
    ride again!!! Bill wants to continue with SAUL and
    some original work called GENESIS, for liturgical
    drama at his church. The woman who is writing the
    music for the last play I wrote wants to produce it in
    the spring!!!

    I'm glad to be busy. Money would be nice, but I've
    never been able to make much money here. If you can,
    look for a cheap ticket for [sister H] to come down there
    at Thanksgiving. I think [stepdad/G] will pay for it. [sister H]
    is sad right now, as she and JImmy are breaking up for
    the last time. All her plans are in disarray. Write
    her on email. I don't know where she is going next,
    so I don't know where real mail can reach her. G.
    and I offered to help her in any way we could, so
    we're waiting to hear back from her.

    I don't think she has a plan yet, but she wants to be
    out of Jimmy's apt. by the end of the month. She has
    lots of young friends who can help her move her stuff
    to storage or to her next place. I'm hoping she'll
    store things and take a room or very small apt for
    now, as she will be alone, and I don't want her to
    spend all her money just to live. Bloomington can be
    very expensive. Amy lives in a small apt. and seems
    very happy. Maybe one of those will become available.

    I'm working on an altar, too, "Sharper than a
    Serpent's Tooth." But I don't feel pressed by it, so
    I think I've alrady worked though a lot of my hurt.
    Now it's just a matter of gluing it together. Life is
    sweet, Mom
    ==============

    Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 07:27:55 -0700 (PDT)
    From: me
    Subject: Re: Armchair Psychology: [Rubber Pig]
    To: mom

    I'm glad you're staying busy and being creative. It
    really helps to have a positive outlet for all the
    ugly feelings that get stirred up.

    I hope you know that I really HATE being right when it
    means people I love get hurt.

    I hope the CPS worker finds some useful info to use.

    I am sorry as hell for those kids, even Blis. She
    can't help it that she's awful; she has had no
    positive role models in life, except for you and [aunt L],
    briefly. It's really very sad.

    You are braver and stronger than me, for being with
    them & loving them as much as you could for as long as
    their horrible parents would let you. I am sorry for
    being weak and walking away, but it's the only thing I
    felt I could do.

    I sent H. email a week or so ago, she hasn't
    written me back. I wish she wasn't so determined to be
    independent sometimes; she has people who love her and
    would do anything she needed, but she doesn't reach
    out as much as she could. I know that feeling; pride
    is tough to overcome.

    I love you.

evile: (clutter)

 

    Aug. 29, 2005

     

     

    evile: hey :) how was the 2nd weekend of faire?
    SkyeDS: better than the first
    SkyeDS: how was yours?
    evile: I'm glad.
    Mine was good. Laid back.
    SkyeDS: they're talking about a better site next year, I'm hoping
    they extend to discussions of a better time too.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I suppose that rationally it is silly to want to look for
    another job just because he yelled at me, as in directed at me, not
    at something else, because his memory is faulty - and he'd rather
    yell at me and say it was my memory at fault.
    evile: *nod* that's hurtful.
    SkyeDS: when I write down instructions in my daily .txt file the
    instant I get them, every single day.
    SkyeDS: word for word, and I repeat them back to him.
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: I mean, I've been here more than a year and a half and this
    is the first time this has happened to this degree.
    SkyeDS: but it makes me VERY angry.
    SkyeDS: and I've told him that being yelled at makes me very angry.
    SkyeDS: I have been very tolerant of his losing shit and hollaring at
    me to find it, and other such related foibles. But this is the first
    time he has directly shifted responsibility for his mistake to me.
    evile: that sucks.
    SkyeDS: and for some reason my gut reaction is, oh no, homey don't
    play that, that's a deal breaker.
    SkyeDS: I understand that tolerance like most streets is two ways,
    and that he is very tolerant of a lot of my failings too.
    SkyeDS: but still.
    evile: Probably time to restate that boundary. "I'm sorry you're
    frustrated and angry, but I don't respond well to being yelled at.
    What can we do to solve this problem together?"
    SkyeDS: you're absolutely right.
    SkyeDS: and I don't have the balls.
    SkyeDS: I will have to find them somewhere somehow.
    evile: *nod* It's hard. I know.
    SkyeDS: I tried once to remind him of what actually was said and he
    yelled at me again so I completely retreated.
    SkyeDS: even if I haven't got a snowflake's chance in hell of getting
    him to admit that he remembers wrong
    SkyeDS: he doesn't need to be yelling at me.
    SkyeDS: it's bad enough that he's mad because I won't back down, and
    I'm mad because he won't either. Yelling just makes it bad enough to
    make me want to walk on the spot.
    evile: *nod* remove focus from 'who's right' to 'this isn't a
    productive way to traet one another and let's work on doing better in
    the future'
    SkyeDS: maybe, "maybe we ought to agree to disagree on who isn't
    remembering correctly. But the yelling is at issue."
    evile: default is 'boss is always right' anyway...so it's rather
    pointless to fuss and get upset about that fact.
    SkyeDS: well, if he's going to make a habit out of this and fall back
    on I'm b oss I'm right he can find another lackey
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and he's been an attorney long enough to know that legal
    admins are not just girls who work in law offices
    SkyeDS: he won't find another legal professional in this town with
    certification and a bachelor's who will work for 12 an hour
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: because for that little, most of us can just as easily work
    as receptionists through temp agencies and not put in 20+ an hour
    effort
    SkyeDS: I was thinking last week that if I had a job at Dell, it
    would simplify life somewhat.
    evile: yeah....
    SkyeDS: I thought about it, discussed it with sineater and then dismissed
    it out of my head, right up until he was yelling at me the first
    thing through the door this morning.
    evile: yeah...that's not a good way to start the work week.
    SkyeDS: oh well - I still don't know how CRW went, I shall poke my
    nose into that as a distractin
    evile: sounds like it went off pretty well, actually.
    SkyeDS: that's good, I was hoping it was. These kids are so all or
    nothing that if it hadn't most of them would have thrown a fit and
    said no more CRW ever WAAH
    evile: yeah. I'm glad it turned out OK.
    evile: The hot sauce festival was good; got there right after they
    opened, the lines weren't bad at all. They got bad by teh time we
    left, around 1:30 or so.
    SkyeDS: I do need to find out who's running it next year so I can
    submit my list of park suggestions
    SkyeDS: we ate at PFChang's in Dallas last night. Their sauces have
    been superlative every time I've been (all of twice I admit)
    evile: I hear good things about PFChangs, but I've not been yet.
    SkyeDS: I would recommend it to you.
    SkyeDS: I still haven't visited T&S yet, that's still on my list.
    evile: *nod* I'll have to check it out. There's one up at the
    Arboretum.
    SkyeDS: so AJ finally got his shot at CRW.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: My boss occasionally comes through; [Aunt L]'s former AA & friend
    died on Sunday,and the funeral is Tuesday. Boss is letting me flex
    my time & work extra today so I can leave tomorrow early to look
    after Ben.
    SkyeDS: :(
    evile: it's hard to know what to do...but knowing Ben will have
    company at home after school will hopefully take some of the load off
    her mind, so she can be there for her friend's husband & family.
    evile: he's practically an adult, and I know he can look out for
    himself, but [Aunt L] worries.
    SkyeDS: nods
    evile: he gets annoyed, so I'm always pointing out that I'm 35 and
    she still worries like that about me, sometimes, too.
    evile: his mom was excessively permissive (but really uncaring) and I
    think he is sometimes ambivalent about living with people who not
    only care about him a great deal but also enforce house rules.
    SkyeDS: nods. I can see that.
    evile: He does better when the rules are not only consistent, but
    also have a logical purpose. Doesn't do so well with 'because it's
    done that way' or 'because I said so'
    SkyeDS: I didn't either at that age and I surmise you didn't either
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: intelligent minds want to know (why)
    evile: exactly. Ben has major authority issues...I can't believe he'd
    considered joining the military, even for a second!
    SkyeDS: he did?
    evile: yes. I just about fell over when he told me that.
    SkyeDS: sineater said that RP showed K [brother A]'s psych report
    SkyeDS: which I assume is part of his medical records?
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: major violation of state and federal law there
    evile: also called [Uncle B], her mom, and a bunch of other people and read
    exerpts aloud.
    evile: Now [brother A] is fussing that MOM violated his privacy..when [rubber pig]
    is the one who gave it to her.
    SkyeDS: that's what I was afraid of
    SkyeDS: the state of texas is insane when it comes to privacy
    SkyeDS: and the feds are worse
    SkyeDS: and he might have an avenue there if it occurs to him
    SkyeDS: but he can't go down that avenue without hitting [rubber pig]
    collaterally
    evile: *shrug* damage is done. CPS wouldn't give Mom custody of that
    baby if she was the last adult on earth. That's all the pig wanted to
    accomplish, the rest (alienating [brother A] from family, hurting our
    feelings with hideous accucations of abuse) is just icing on the cake.
    SkyeDS: nevermind that to my understanding, K doesn't want the
    baby?
    SkyeDS: and would not be in line to have the baby unless [brother A] were
    out of the picture, either dead or rights terminated?
    evile: Mom does want the baby, actually...
    SkyeDS: oh.....
    SkyeDS: that does complicate things a wee doesn't it....
    evile: she loves all the kids, but realistically understands the baby
    is the only one that is, or could be 'ours' under any circumstances.
    SkyeDS: is G in agreement at being a parent again at this stage in
    his life...?
    evile: *shrug* I really haven't wanted to talk about it...it just
    hurts me too much. I know that is cowardly and cold, but there it is.
    evile: I have never seen it, I dont' wnat to see it, I wont' even
    look at pictures. I don't wanna think about it.
    SkyeDS: I don't mean to make worse, I'm sorry
    SkyeDS: if you were cold you wouldn't be hurting
    evile: I'm sorry too. I know you didn't ask out of any malicious
    intent.
    SkyeDS: I will just process this new information and let it
    percolate. It certainly adds wrinkles and complications.
    evile: *shrug* all pretty much moot. Family is 'done' with [brother A]. Mom
    is done since he delivered the 'you can't see my kids ever again'
    ultimatum to Mom...I've BEEN done. Nothing we can do, no reason to
    keep throwing energy into that black hole.
    SkyeDS: that makes no sense, she saw them, had them in unsupervised
    custody, weekend before this last.
    evile: nope.
    SkyeDS: I think the only pertinent t hing I have to say at this point
    is K better get a lawyer. A good one.
    evile: *nod* [Aunt L] has found one. I think she is alot more realistic
    about things than Mom.
    SkyeDS: that's a relief.
    evile: The Pig is always raving and carrying on about hiring lawyers
    & suing everyone for every little goddamned thing, and she never
    has...so I think it's pretty empty threat from her. But if the state
    of TX thought my mom was doing criminal stuff, it would be out of Pig
    and [brother A]'s hands.
    SkyeDS: exactly.
    SkyeDS: and, I know from experience that the State Board and the Feds
    can be worse than criminal issues
    SkyeDS: they're like the IRS, administrative powers means that you
    have all the cons of actual criminal litigation but none of the pros
    SkyeDS: ie, you literally are guilty until proven innocent
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and they can throw shit at you, and you can't rebut it
    evile: well, they pull questions like 'when did you stop beating your
    wife?'...no matter what you answer, you're fucked
    SkyeDS: precisely
    SkyeDS: and they LOVE to field witnesses like [rubber pig]
    SkyeDS: against whom t hey do not let you defend yourself
    SkyeDS: [rubber pig] is the State of TX wet dream
    evile: sick/sad.
    SkyeDS: I would like not to know what I know, given this situation
    SkyeDS: in terms of the new can of worms that the disclosure of PHI
    (private health info)
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I don't like knowing what K might be in for, and I can't
    do anything to stop it
    evile: Mom had it, so I read it, too. It was sucky.
    SkyeDS: and she signed the car over anyway huh
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: and they wouldn't bring her back to town
    evile: ts called unconditional love...what parents are supposed to
    have for their kids, or something like that.
    SkyeDS: rofl right
    SkyeDS: unconditional for the boys. not for the girls. just an
    observation.
    evile: *shrug* no sense in allowing my own existence to become
    poisoned. Past is over and done. I'm a good person (in spite of or
    because of) and that's what counts.
    SkyeDS: might as well change your middle name to Kassandra (of Troy)
    evile: *shrug* not letting it poison my life.
    SkyeDS: although I guess when you boil it down "I tried to tell
    you..." is just another form of "I told you so"
    evile: I never say that.
    evile: there's no point in being right, or being acknowledged as
    being right. People I love are hurting, and that sucks, and being
    right is just not important in the face of that.
    evile: I'd give anything to have been wrong, and for my brother to
    have found a loving, sane relationship.
    SkyeDS: whether or not you vocalize it, it remains fact
    SkyeDS: people remember that it's fact
    SkyeDS: and some of them hold it against you
    evile: easier to be mad at me than the people who caused the problem.
    whatever. I'm not letting it poison my life.
    evile: [rubber pig]'s mom told my mom that she's gotten the 'you'll never
    see my children again' ultimatum many times, and she always gets to
    see them again, eventually. So mom isn't too worried. And the kids
    are all she really cares about at this point.
    SkyeDS: I need to find the line for the eyecandy and get in it
    (reading your bus post)
    SkyeDS: non sequitur, I'm s orry
    evile: heehee. That was a fun afternoon. Makes me tempted to stay
    late and miss the flyer more often
    SkyeDS: if there were a bus that ran to downtown from any point
    between the office and the ranch I'd take it
    SkyeDS: by that I mean, Round Rock, Taylor, Hutto, etc
    evile: I think there's a park & ride in RR. Maybe one in Leander as
    well.
    SkyeDS: I need my own helicopter to commute with. ;)
    evile: I would never cheat on Sweetie, but that doesn't mean I can't
    look & fantasize. :)
    SkyeDS: who cares where you get the appetite as long as you eat at
    home
    evile: *nod* And Sweetie & I girl-watch together a lot :)
    SkyeDS: sineater and I used to watch adult fare together
    SkyeDS: my tastes are a lot more exotic than his though
    SkyeDS: life is easier if you join them, maybe even exceed them, t
    han make it a deal breaker to try and beat them (at porn, flirting,
    stuff some women get in a wad about)
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: when Jason and Grayson came to visit over New Year's, they
    found my adult collection, thought it was sineater's
    SkyeDS: and when I came in they were trying to hide it because they
    didn't want to get him in trouble
    SkyeDS: I shrugged and said, that isn't his, it's mine, a nd walked
    out
    evile: heehee.
    SkyeDS: what people think they know about my sex life isn't anywhere
    near being true, and in that aspect my life is completely boring
    SkyeDS: and what people don't know that IS true would freak people
    out to the point of not speaking ot me again I'm afraid
    evile: heh.
    evile: it's nobody's business but the people involved...and if people
    don't have anything better to do than speculate on your sexual
    activities, that definitely means they need to get more of their
    own :P
    SkyeDS: I don't think some people would understand that just because
    some things seem to flip my switch to read about or watch, doesn't
    mean I would do them myself
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: is about time they let you off your leash and out of your
    cage?
    evile: No such luck. I'm staying until 4:30 today so I can leave
    early tomorrow.
    SkyeDS: ah
    evile: it's not so bad, it only seems like the extra 1/2 hour takes
    forever. I have a lot of crap to do at home before gal's nite.
    SkyeDS: nodnods
    evile: we found a place last week where you can do crafts on their
    site, ceramics, beads, etc. We are talking about maybe doing that
    next Monday, assuming they're not closed for labor day.
    SkyeDS: I remember seeing that, sounds like fun
    evile: yup. a lot less hassle than sponsoring a craft night at home.
    evile: well, I think I'll take my paperwork on the rounds.
    evile: *hugs* have a good evening :)
    SkyeDS: hugs :)

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evile: (clutter)

    Aug. 25, 2005

     

     

    Yesterday, I read the psychologist's report. It was all bullshit.
    Drugs and orgies and Mom letting homosexual men in to the house to
    sleep with [brother A]. What a load of crap.

    Apparently, [brother A] is being told by the family and his lawyer NOT to
    voluntarily register as a sex offender, but there's some test that
    CPS/law enforcement gives when ONLY to registered sex offendors to
    pinpoint exactly what turns each individual sex offendor on...and if
    you don't respond to kiddie porn images, they put something on your
    record to that effect, BUT you're STILL on record as a sex offendor.
    What a catch 22!

    ANYWAY, [rubber pig] gave the psych. report to Mom and Mom made a copy.
    [rubber pig] had also been calling [Uncle B], her mom, and possibly the Sawyers,
    to read exerpts of it aloud over the phone. But for whatever reasons,
    last night it turned into "mom took the confedential report without
    permission" and "Mom violated [brother A]'s confidentiality" (like [rubber pig]
    didn't, by reading it over the phone to anyone and everyone? CRAZY)
    and [brother A] and [rubber pig] both called Mom to harangue her. At one point
    [rubber pig] told Mom to come get the car back, they didnt' want it anymore,
    to which Mom replied "It's [brother A]'S car, he can do whatever he wants
    with it" and then [brother A] played the 'you can never see the children
    again' card on her. Mom hung up. Then they called [dad] and [rubber pig]
    started screaming at him. Dad hung up. [brother A] called Dad back and
    called him a 'son of a bitch' and told him he couldn't hang up on his
    wife. Dad hung up on him.

    I am hoping these ungrateful assholes will realize, at some point,
    that it's extremely poor manners and a really BAD idea to abuse the
    people who care about you & are able to give you stuff and money when
    you need it.

    Mom was so hurt. She really loves those kids.

    I am sure Dad was hurt, too, but he doesn't show it.

evile: (clutter)

    Aug. 24, 2005

     

     

    Posted in LJ for my gals, sineater, and ben:

    So, Mom went to San Antonio yesterday and signed over her car title
    to my brother A. who could then not even be bothered to drive her
    back to Austin for her troubles.

    The Pig gave Mom all the paperwork to read, regarding A's allegations
    of abuse and whatnot. Apparently our mother was too busy doing drugs
    and having orgies during our childhood to feed, clothe, or care for
    us. Funny...I kind of remember her working for a living and feeding &
    clothing us just fine. I remember regular bed times and homework and
    lectures about grades. I remember birthday parties with homemade
    cakes and pinyatas and Mom painting our faces as clowns and animals.
    I don't remember any drugs or orgies or widespread neglect. Wierd how
    that works, eh?

    Mom was devastated, of course. How could you not be, when your child
    is sitting there telling you what a terrible mother you are, and bla
    bla bla? But it's all that sick bitch and her projecting her own
    issues onto A. and our family, and oh, incidentally, making damn
    fucking sure we NEVER get access to A's child.

    Mom wanted to show me pictures of the kids that she took this past
    weekend. I had to say 'no' like 4 times, pretty firmly. What's the
    damn point?

    I told her I didn't ever want to see the baby, or think about it,
    because it just makes me too sick and sad. She said "What if I got
    custody of her, would you want to have anything to do with her then?"

    My eyes just filled up & my heart broke just a little bit more...I
    told her not to talk about it anymore, because I couldn't take it.

    She was so sad and angry, too...but I just can't DO this.

    That's my neice...that I NEVER will meet, or never have a
    relationship with...because I can't give that sick fucking evil bitch
    that kind of power over me. I will NEVER get into another situation
    where some goddamned tapeworm of a human being uses my love for a
    child against me. I will kill her, the baby, and/or myself first
    before I let myself hurt that much EVER again.

    X fucked me up way more than I really want to think about. I am so
    mad at my brother A for being so spineless and weak-minded and
    letting the pig brainwash him like that. I am so fucking sad.

    But nobody will EVER see me cry over this.

    Fuck 'em all.
    ==========

    Mom also mentioned that [rubber pig] told her she didn't like me, was being
    all coy and dancing around about it,and then finally came out and
    said "oh, I guess I just don't like her very much" and Mom
    said "Well, she doesn't like you, either" which apparently shut [rubber pig]
    up for a good minute. Now, what the fuck was the point of that??? I
    do know the urge to say something so shocking, so cutting that it
    stops the spew of sewage from the psycho-mouth and Yes, I've done
    it...but for me it was always something more along the lines of
    finally letting go and telling someone exactly what *I* think of
    them, not some kind of 'siccing' someone on someone else. It's just
    not productive to sow any more discord between me and [rubber pig]. And
    because I got out of the drama so early, I may be someone that [brother A]
    feels like he can come to later, since I'm not completely wrung out
    and tapped out. *sigh* But I guess not, if the pig knows I don't like
    her. I mean, yeah, it's obvious, but ...yeah. Oh well. I think Skye
    was right in her statement, something like 'the next time we see him,
    it will be in his grave'...I think that's entirely too possible. And
    what's sad is that I'm so mad at him right now for hurting Mom, [dad],
    [Aunt L], [Uncle B], and you so much...I am not sure if I could actually be sad
    to see him go.

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evile: (clutter)

    Aug. 15, 2005

     

     

    evile: hey :) How was your weekend?
    SkyeDS: largely unproductive but oh well. What little got done was
    good.
    SkyeDS: Sitting here listening to the $100+ worth of music I bought
    evile: that's good. I heard the Drandmir thing had drama. glad
    Imissed it.
    SkyeDS: and I have just decided that for classical I'm going to use 6
    Dances from the Nutcracker
    SkyeDS: I don't care that they aren't period.
    SkyeDS: these are fantasy faires
    SkyeDS: what happened at Drandmir?
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: all I know is Jinx didn't have a good time (ie what's in
    her lj)
    evile: Oh, I dunno, Sharjinka had some kind of misunderstandign with
    someone. And of course rather than tell the person who hurt her
    feelings, she's going to post it on her LJ.
    SkyeDS: I guess it is innate for a reenACTment group to cherish drama
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: most of Drandmir ignores me except when they want something
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and then when they do want something, I try to provide, and
    half the time that's turned down
    SkyeDS: <shrug>
    SkyeDS: I'm a little disappointed that I didn't take off more after
    fasting Saturday, but the inches were nice
    evile: *nod* that's very cool. Feeling more energy?
    SkyeDS: more mental clarity yes
    SkyeDS: still tired because I haven't slept enough
    evile: cool :)
    SkyeDS: but that's because I have bad sleep habits
    SkyeDS: no more waking up between 1 - 3 am, and that was due to diet
    evile: I had bad dreams last night. Mind is really pushing me to get
    into another job.
    SkyeDS: I remember my dreams more now
    SkyeDS: and they're very weird
    evile: yup. that happened when I started taking flaxseed & epo
    SkyeDS: I haven't even started on that yet
    SkyeDS: I'm going to though
    evile: *nod* good stuff, I swear by it
    SkyeDS: I think there's flax in my supplements.
    SkyeDS: I mixed my beloved strawberry banana smoothies with yogurt
    evile: sounds good.
    SkyeDS: I like them better straight but I need the yogurt to replace
    the good flora in my system that I killed along with the bad
    SkyeDS: "miracle juice" = cranberry, orange, lemon, cinnamon, nutmeg,
    ginger and water concoction
    SkyeDS: I have decided I could happily live on strawberry banana
    smoothies and orange juice all day, and apples when I need to chew
    something
    evile: that's good
    SkyeDS: do you know how long it's taken others to move around
    laterally at the state?
    evile: nope.
    evile: what I think is fun is when people get promoted, don't like
    it, and go back to their old job and somehow manage to retain the
    higher rate of pay.
    SkyeDS: be handy if you could figure out how
    evile: yah.
    SkyeDS: Hugh hasn't been here this morning and hasn't called, I
    wonder if I should be worried
    evile: hm. Probably not. Mondays are good for skipping work,if you
    can :)
    SkyeDS: I'd like to work a 4/10 but that's not going to happen when I
    drive 2 hours every day, even though I don't take lunch hour
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: oh man.
    SkyeDS: I was having a hard enough time trying to figure out what
    from Last Temptation I'd like to use
    SkyeDS: and now that I have the Flamenco and Saidi, it's going to be
    even harder, and I still haven't put together choreography
    SkyeDS: and it's THIS Saturday.
    evile: *nod* yup. it's coming up quick.
    SkyeDS: I think I'll email J/B tomorrow and ask her if she's got
    anything on paper. If she does could I buy her lunch and pick it up
    then, because we really need to work every night this week.
    SkyeDS: rather than walk through practice tomorrow.
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: there he is - car trouble
    evile: Unless Mom wants to go to Ravens Loft, I think I'll end up
    staying in town this weekend.
    evile: car trouble on a monday....major suck!
    SkyeDS: Courtney's car that is. He gave her his father's Cadillac
    evile: *nod*
    evile: My boss gets back from vacay tomorrow. I am going to ask her
    for some time off to spend with Mom.
    SkyeDS: they came this weekend past, or are coming this weekend next?
    SkyeDS: I forgot
    evile: no 'they'. just mom.
    evile: she got here yesterday and will be here about a week, she's
    thinking.
    evile: [brother A] and the Pig are telling everyone--family, friends,
    friends of Gary's & the family, CPS, everyone, that Mom
    abused/molested the girls.
    evile: I *really* want her DEAD.
    SkyeDS: omfg
    evile: Dead.
    SkyeDS: none of us are safe, are we.
    evile: Mom has been an educator for over 20 years. If there was *any*
    inappropriate behavior on her part, EVER, she would not still be
    certified to teach in at least 4 states.
    SkyeDS: that's all your Mom and I need. Our lives are built around
    children.
    evile: Makes me sick.
    evile: Every time I think "this person can't sink to any further
    depth of filth and slime" she DOES.
    SkyeDS: maybe we should ask onyxlynxx what to do to protect ourselves
    SkyeDS: I'd ask Linda if she were still here
    evile: & dragging my much-beloved but pretty goddamned stupid brother
    along with her.
    evile: you can't prove a negative. The best defense, IMHO, is to just
    laugh in her fuckin' face if she ever gets the ovaries to bring these
    accusations to you in person.
    SkyeDS: I'm hoping K never hears from the CPS. But I'm thinking
    depending on who there gets their paws on this, sometimes outcry is
    all they seem to need.
    SkyeDS: given what's happened to Kelly and Stephanie
    evile: Mom is calling the caseworker herself.
    SkyeDS: if resources weren't an issue (money time aggravation) I'd
    suggest a defamation lawsuit
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: but then as I told sineater this morning I decided that going
    after our last tenants wasn't worth those resources
    SkyeDS: and that would have just been $60 in a JP court
    evile: yup...
    SkyeDS: but what she's doing is definitely illegal on I think more
    than one account
    SkyeDS: defamation/libel/slander, harassment, etc
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: I wonder if the police will end up involved
    evile: *shrug* I think [rubber pig]'s main interest is in making sure the
    state will never give custody of the children to anyone in our
    family; I think she's accomplished that, without use of the police
    SkyeDS: G must be ready to declare global thermonuclear war, surely
    evile: I'm sure.
    SkyeDS: and how on earth is the RP going to explain their unorthodox
    living situation and history to CPS
    evile: no tellin. Apparently the CPS has no problem with the ex
    husband living with them and taking care of the girls.
    SkyeDS: they obviously didn't mention the wedding of the magic
    internet
    evile: apparently, supposedly, she got a real divorce and she and
    [brother A] had a real JP marriage
    evile: whatever. I see her lips moving, I assume she's lying.
    SkyeDS: "pre emptive" is a term bandied about a lot lately
    SkyeDS: in examining my covenants, I think that the words "in order
    to prevent" are more preventative than curative, in other words, "pre
    emptive"
    evile: right. you dont' wait for the rabid dog to bite you, you shoot
    the fuckin' thing as soon as it walks into your yard.
    SkyeDS: right. there are levels of pre emptive. one is shoot the
    dog when it's in your yard. the other is shoot it before it's in
    your yard, if you know it to be rabid, etc.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I think of it as "situational ethics" because I don't know
    what else to call it, even though I know that term has connotations
    otherwise
    SkyeDS: I really do think situations need to be examined for
    distinguishing minutiae before applying ethics.
    SkyeDS: anyway, I think w hat I'm getting at is, I see no problem
    with doing what needs to be done about her. If you want a posse
    behind you, say the word.
    evile: *nod* I am lucky in that I saw far enough ahead to remove
    myself from the situation, so I have no personal stake in what
    happens, other than really loving my family and hating to see them
    hurt.
    SkyeDS: she comes near me and mine, dark moon/black
    candles/urine/mense blood will be the least of what she has to worry
    about
    SkyeDS: although often that kind of banishment by itself seems to do
    the trick quite satisfactorily in past
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: hasn't [aunt L] spent as much time or more with the kids than
    [K/mom]?
    evile: yup, but other than the 'back surgery' thing, never without
    [brother A] & [rubber pig]
    SkyeDS: hopefully she will be immune from all this then
    evile: it's such a witch hunt issue. child abuse/molestation....it's
    hideous that someone would take away from the people who really have
    abuse stories in order to further their own agenda.
    evile: sort of like drunk sorority girls yelling 'rape' the morning
    after because they regret sleeping with someone.
    SkyeDS: that's t he reason maybe that CPS has to run down every outcry
    evile: yup. what a waste of manpower, that could be used actually
    taking care of kids with real problems, (other than psychopathic
    bitch mothers)
    SkyeDS: woulda coulda shoulda - called CPS on [rubber pig] first, maybe,
    although I don't know what to have reported
    evile: exactly.
    evile: the GWNN Munch was fun on SAturday--got too crowded & too
    noisy pretty quick, but other than that.
    SkyeDS: :)
    SkyeDS: couldn't eat Saturday so I spent a great deal of time
    watching cooking shows
    SkyeDS: real smart
    evile: Saw my favorite Rope Dom and got to visit with a couple who
    are my favorite dom & sub
    evile: He brought his bug-bite clicker & was showing it to everyone.
    I got my 15 minutes of fame last night--"And HERE'S the gal who
    showed me this great new toy!"
    SkyeDS: :D
    SkyeDS: here's to toys and the lucre with which to obtain them ;)
    evile: I can't wait to get my flash cotton in the mail to test
    whether the clicker will ignite it :)
    evile: $4.50, pretty cheap toy.
    SkyeDS: I am tempted to call a sub shop and order a salad ahead of
    time and go pick it up for lunch
    evile: that sounds like a good plan :)
    SkyeDS: tender chicken breast strips are topped with Parmesan, Romano
    and Asiago cheese, sprinkled with spices, Peppercorn Caesar dressing
    SkyeDS: nummy
    SkyeDS: I was lazy and left my own such salad makings at home this
    morning
    evile: oops.
    evile: ooh, I got my mini torches & commando cloth on Friday :)
    SkyeDS: remember that hero figure you created, with the bat wings and
    the gun?
    SkyeDS: no reason you couldn't play that in HFS, gun included
    SkyeDS: we don't have a defined "period" the way SCA does - I don't t
    hink anyway.
    SkyeDS: and that could be loosely under the bailiwick of "fantasy"
    SkyeDS: Hugh's birthday is tomorrow. Gift certificate is a given,
    but I need to figure out whether Amazon, Cabela's, or Auto Zone or
    some other auto store (I can't begin to figure out which one)
    evile: I dressed like that for something, once.
    evile: no gun.
    evile: cabelas' was a madhouse when we drove by on Sunday...I
    wouldn't shop there. But they have a website.
    SkyeDS: right. I haven't been yet, I just use their website as a
    benchmark when I'm pricing things.
    evile: the parking lot is HUGE and is always packed whenever we go by.
    SkyeDS: Hugh's been. He said it was redneck heaven.
    evile: heehee. Ben said it was full of dead stuff.
    SkyeDS: I'm going to scoot out of here and run to Hancock Ctr to get
    me a salad, I'll BBIAB
    SkyeDS: bk
    SkyeDS: boss walked in right as I was walking out so my trip was
    considerably delayed
    evile: yeah, I bet!
    evile: found a rather interesting LJ, browsing friends of friends
    http://www.livejournal.com/users/alabastard/
    SkyeDS: nods
    SkyeDS: his profile is interesting
    evile: very much so. I think y'all have a lot in common :)
    SkyeDS: dangerous to know... I have a hard time seeing myself that
    way, but the parents of a good many of my young friends seem to think
    so
    evile: not really that, that's merely a Byron quote, but the horses &
    musical background, SCA, troubles with drama mongers, etc...
    SkyeDS: I did like the poem about gossip
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: going to explore his lj much more thoroughly when I finish
    this edit project, deadline this afternoon
    evile: *nod*
    evile: ooh, pretty.
    http://www.magicalfashions.com/catalog/catalogimages/purple%
    20shawl.jpg
    SkyeDS: wow
    evile: I saw one similar at the last casa de luz show, red tones, and
    I then went to ebay and found one in silver/muted blue/etc. Now I
    find a whole jackpot of any color you can think of. I reeally like.
    SkyeDS: so like I got this 60$ kuchi choker on ebay for $20
    SkyeDS: but they aren't kidding about the choke part
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I spend a lot of time pulling it away from my throat
    evile: I don't usually like chokers, for that reason.
    SkyeDS: it looks really good with the kuchi belt
    SkyeDS: and I can't ride in either one, unless it's just a parade
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: Hugh is going to kill little Michael (and I'm not going to
    stop him)
    evile: oh,dear.
    SkyeDS: maybe Hugh will figure out on his own why I kept steering
    Michael in the direction of designing the webpage adn AWAY from my
    important functions
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: Hugh wanted Michael working on filing. No, I don't think
    so. The point of filing is to be able to find something without
    having to tear the entire office apart looking for it.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: well, I made the deadline with a couple of hours to spare
    SkyeDS: and he just stormed out to go fight with the mechanics
    SkyeDS: I asked him if I could just email the edits to the publisher
    myself, and he said not
    SkyeDS: <shrugs>
    evile: uh oh. I hope it all works out OK.
    SkyeDS: he is going to kill somebody today
    SkyeDS: and as long as it isn't me I don't know that I care
    evile: *nod* sounds like a plan :P
    SkyeDS: Can't get a date, aging badly? Stalk an old obsession with
    ludicrous rumours, yeah that's a great use of time.
    (Alabastard Quote, lol)
    evile: *giggle* See, I thought you two had some things in common.
    evile: well, time for me to pack up.
    *hugs* see ya!

evile: (clutter)

    Aug. 1, 2005

     

     

    I already posted this once, but yahoo ate it. I edited it slightly to
    post in LJ (left out the parts about [Dad] giving sineater and Kate money,
    because I don't think sineater would be happy knowing people were in his
    business like that. I know he feels guilty and like a f up anyway,
    all the time, because of skye's abuse, so why drive it home that Mom
    knows the extent of Dad's bailing him out, etc. and make him feel
    more worthless. It's all HER but sineater takes it on himself...suck suck
    suck.)

    =======================================================

    Email from Mom:

    [brother A] is in trouble--I know, what else is new? But
    this is something you and Sweetie could help him with
    if you could find it in your heart to lay aside some
    of your feelings about [brother A], [rubber pig], the kids, Trae
    and the whole situation

    He needs a car to get to work. Could he borrow or
    buy one of the Troopers?

    [brother A] doesn't know I'm writing to you about this,
    so if you can't or don't want to do anything, that's
    100% ok.

    Sometimes I get so frustrated because I can't do
    anything about something I feel very strongly about.

    Or I feel that if we start sending [brother A] money, it
    will be this never-ending drain. I have no job, so
    it's easy for me to say no, but [dad] feels very
    conflicted about it.

    But this would be a one shot deal for you and Sweetie,
    if you decide it is something you could do. And
    maybe it will be a way for you and [brother A] to start talking
    again.

    He's pretty much cut himself off from family and
    friends, as you know.

    Anyway, think about it. It was hard for me to
    write this letter, but it's even harder seeing how
    distant you and [brother A] are and the rift growing every day.
    I love you both. Thanks, Mom


    My reply:

    I don't own any cars. They are Sweetie's. I will forward
    this to Sweetie, but it is absolutely positively 100%
    NOT my decision to make. I don't do anything with the
    cars besides occasionally buy gasoline, Sweetie pays for
    everything having to do with them. They are his
    cars.

    I am sorry as hell that [brother A] is in the situation he
    is in...but really, you've said it: if I was in a
    relationship with him, it would be a neverending grab
    & gimme and nothing but drama and misery all the
    way.
    I don't have the time or energy to give to that. I'm
    sorry if that hurts your feelings, but I can't live
    like that. I have tried *very* hard to refrain from
    saying anything negative about [brother A]/[rubber pig]/drama in
    front of you, and that is as much as I can do.
    ===================================================
    I posted in my LJ for sineater, with this comment:


    I know this is just going to kick up another shit storm, or make Mom
    mad at Sweetie for being so "unreasonable" and not giving [brother A] one of his
    cars. ([brother A] *buy* one from Sweetie? WITH WHAT MONEY??? And it's not like
    San Antonio has a shitty public transit system like Austin does. Oh
    well. I didn't say either of those things to her, so I guess I didn't
    do as bad as I could have. I am sure I could have managed something
    more diplomatic, or just not replied. Dammit. I love all these
    fucking no-win situations my loving family is forever sticking me
    into.
    ============================
    Mom's reply:

    Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 07:42:55 -0700 (PDT)
    From: mom
    Subject: Re: do you have a car [brother A] could borrow for awhile?
    To:me


    No, it doen't hurt my feelings. A mom can always
    hope. Thanks for forwarding the emil to Sweetie. Love, Mom

evile: (clutter)

    Jul. 18, 2005

     

     

    evile: hi :) How was your weekend?
    SkyeDS: it went, better than I expected it to :) how was yours?
    evile: Very busy :) but good.
    SkyeDS: as usual I need a weekend to get over the weekend and catch
    up on sleep LOL
    evile: *nod* me too.
    evile: I've discovered that Christian Chatty Cathy is tired and likes
    to read on the bus ride home. I've contemplated ruining her ride home
    as much as she ruins my ride to work. But I'm not that mean. Mostly I
    try to avoid her by taking an earlier or later bus.
    SkyeDS: whatever works (and the least amount of effort is good)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: How were the fraternal sproggies?
    SkyeDS: beautiful, bright and well-behaved
    evile: cool. I'm glad :)
    SkyeDS: I met the fraternal shack up too
    evile: oh. How was that?
    SkyeDS: the kids seem attached to her
    SkyeDS: she watched me like a hawk the entire time
    SkyeDS: I don't know what she was looking for
    evile: that's wierd.
    SkyeDS: she asked me a passively aggressive pointed question about
    the horses, which I fielded, and that was as overt as it got.
    SkyeDS: and I HATE covert.
    evile: *nod* me too.
    SkyeDS: apparently the loch ness monster (vanessa the ex) is a good
    mother. Mom said that after she had the babies, she wanted to be a
    mother and not a wife and therein was some part of the problem
    SkyeDS: which makes me wonder if she didn't get pregnant all three
    times on purpose
    evile: yup. that definitely becomes a problem in a lot of marriages.
    SkyeDS: instead of all three being accidents, the last two "on the
    pill"
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: the pill is more than 99% accurate taken correctly. one
    pregnancy on the pill maybe, two?
    evile: yeah...really.
    SkyeDS: maybe she has somethings in common with [rubber_pig]
    SkyeDS: except she seems to be a better mother
    SkyeDS: her live in has 3 kids of his own
    SkyeDS: I was doing some calculating, and a noncustodial parent who
    sees the kids on holidays and alternating weekends is getting the
    equivalent of 8 weeks out of 52 (a year)
    SkyeDS: Stuart gets his 3 weeks in the summer and a week at Xmas
    SkyeDS: that's only 4 out of 52
    SkyeDS: how can he say he loves his kids and live that way?
    evile: *shrug* that's tough. Maybe he recognizes what's best for the
    children.
    SkyeDS: what's best for the children is for him to live in Atlanta GA
    or somewhere close thereabouts, not in NOLA
    SkyeDS: she may be a good mother, but her choice in men is suspect.
    and he's not there when/if the kids need him, for whatever reason.
    evile: that's always sad.
    SkyeDS: Gramma fell and suffered several scalp wounds (which always
    bleed badly) and a concussion
    SkyeDS: Mom and Dad were gone to NOLA
    SkyeDS: I'm 6 hours away
    evile: yuck.
    SkyeDS: who took her to the hospital and saved her life? the
    neighbors.
    SkyeDS: why?
    SkyeDS: because they are right there, saw it in enough time to do
    something about it.
    SkyeDS: if Gramma were my responsibility, I would have a hard time
    fulfilling that responsibility from six hours away, much less three
    states away
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and when asked why he can't stand Georgia so much that he has
    to live so far away from his kids that he only sees them 4 weeks out
    of a year
    SkyeDS: the only answer he'll give is that he didn't like the time
    zone
    SkyeDS: after he spent how many years in california and north
    carolina, in the military, and the time zone has that much effect on
    him? I don't think so.
    evile: that's really too bad.
    SkyeDS: couldn't he have figured that out before he got the loch ness
    monster pregnant in the first place?
    SkyeDS: since he was living in NC at the time?
    SkyeDS: and did he not figure it out until after he had not one but
    three?
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: "but what about the children?"
    SkyeDS: the children are here now. you made them. it doesn't matter
    how much you hate Georgia or why.
    evile: You would think...
    SkyeDS: the oldest is Alex, age 6. And sineater says he's already
    starting to show what sineater calls typical signs of being a child of
    divorce
    SkyeDS: I wouldn't know what those were, but sineater would
    evile: *shrug* there are worse things.
    evile: Kids in loving homes are always better off than kids in homes
    where the adults hate each other.
    SkyeDS: this is long past the loving home v hateful home
    SkyeDS: he doesn't have to live WITH her, just near her.
    evile: well, he's an adult, he can't be forced to do anything he
    doesn't want to do, except maybe by court order...it's regrettable,
    but that's just hte way it goes sometimes. People breeding who have
    no business doing so and zero commitment to the results of their
    orgasm.
    SkyeDS: he says he's had a vasectomy so these accidents won't
    continue happening, at least. assuming that's the truth.
    evile: Better than nothin, I guess.
    SkyeDS: I remember Mom severing things with him over giving him
    emergency money, and then him using that and going over and beyond
    that with her credit cards for a trip to California
    SkyeDS: the live in is from California. things that make you go hm.
    evile: *nod* indeed.
    SkyeDS: hint, Mom: don't give him cash. Don't give him a check.
    Don't fucking give him your credit card and say don't spend more than
    (whatever).
    SkyeDS: whatever he says he needs, you buy specifically.
    SkyeDS: he's not any better than those homeless people who make 30-
    40K a year on the side of the road, with signs that say will work for
    food, who will neither work, nor accept food if you try to feed them,
    they just want the $.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: Well, in any case, I'm glad you went to the reunion and had a
    nice visit with people.
    SkyeDS: nods
    evile: I enjoyed hanging out with Ladydreamtime, Patrick, April, and their
    friend Rosa yesterday. I felt like she and I didn't hit it off the
    other 2 times we've met, but I think we had a nice time yesterday.
    SkyeDS: good nekkid time with ladydreamtime? ;)
    evile: Oh, she only went to brunch, then she took some lunch home to
    rainking. So it was just me, Patrick, April & Rosa at HH.
    evile: And then after that I went to Hojo's and showed him my boobs,
    and then I went home :)
    SkyeDS: ok...
    evile: that's what he wanted for his bday.
    evile: mine were the only un-adorned, un-surgeried, un-marked boobies
    I saw yesterday. tats, piercings, one boob job at HH, and plain o'
    me. :P
    SkyeDS: lol
    evile: perspective is always interesting.
    SkyeDS: aye
    evile: I think Ladydreamtime and Chancie are both all natural, too. so if the
    3 of us ever go out there together, I won't be the minority :P
    SkyeDS: I've never given it much thought
    evile: I hadn't either.
    SkyeDS: we don't blink at blood guts violence but we scream when we
    see a pair of bare nipples
    evile: not me. :)
    SkyeDS: as a society not personally
    evile: yeah. Patrick and I had an interesting discussion about that.
    evile: He & April are good parents, and they manage to actually have
    lives & adult interests too. I think that's very cool.
    SkyeDS: nodnodnods
    evile: It's so gratifying to have friends who will actually get a
    sitter and not insist on taking the kids with them everywhere, all
    the time.
    SkyeDS: I need to find a sitter so we can go toobin
    evile: I don't know when our next toob trip is gonna be. Sweetie's VW
    rally got cancelled because of the rain, so they're rescheduling.
    This sunday, maybe? I'll have to ask...
    evile: OTOH, Ben will be back in town. So we might go anyway.
    evile: I'll have a definite weekend plan after Thursday, I s'pose.
    SkyeDS: more Xmas in July :)
    SkyeDS: kuchi choker and two new skirts today
    evile: more ebay stuffs :) Nice.
    SkyeDS: you've seen the silver skirt with the matching veil?
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: bought a purple one and an emerald/teal one just like it
    evile: nice :)
    SkyeDS: they're now selling t hem veils separately
    SkyeDS: wish could have gotten the silver one that way, don't really
    need the veil
    SkyeDS: too big to make a turban out of it, and don't know what to do
    with it otherwise, riding it gets in the way
    SkyeDS: not big enough to use it as a sari
    evile: I'm sure it'll come in handy at some point.
    SkyeDS: most garby-crafty things do eventually
    SkyeDS: my rationale for being a packrat
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: have a portable hot shower and porta potty on order too
    SkyeDS: those tents for the showers cost way too much
    SkyeDS: I bet with sineater's abilities with pvc he could make me a
    frame, and we could get a cheap curtain and rings at a dollar store
    evile: *nod* I am pretty sure Rengeek's shower setup is all totally
    homemade, and it was awesome.
    SkyeDS: don't know if you've ever seen Arthur's biggest stand, the
    one made out of pvc - rather than his tree stand (sineater made them all)
    evile: probably :)
    SkyeDS: the solar showers were cheaper and had their own stalls
    evile: sineater is very talented & creative.
    SkyeDS: but for some reason I just felt that a battery operated one
    might be better
    SkyeDS: work faster, whatever
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I did not bring lunch because I was supposed to go out, and
    my lunch partner rescheduled for Wednesday
    evile: bummer!
    SkyeDS: and what I ought to do is go across the street to subway and
    get something while I've got Michael covering phones
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: did you see Chocolate Factory this weekend?
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: and?
    evile: It was fine.
    SkyeDS: you aren't exactly waxing enthusiastically poetic here...
    evile: A lot of people say it's closer to the original book but I
    haven't read the book in years, so I couldn't say.
    evile: To be honest, by the time I got in and sat down my shields
    were so far up and I was so withdrawn, I really wasn't that aware of
    the movie.
    SkyeDS: :|
    evile: I might see it again later, after the craze has died down.
    evile: Well, it's 4. I'll talk at ya tomorrow. *hugs* Have a good
    evening. We're walking at Town Lake, see my LJ if you're interested.

evile: (Default)
Library books are due tomorrow, I need to finish this up and get it turned in. It was really good. Wish I could send a copy to my brother and have him read it. Sadly, I see a lot of my own issues here, too. Both as a narcissist and a person who has been involved with them.

Help! I'm In Love With A Narcissist by Steven Carter and Julia Sokol.

Some good sections:


HOW NARCISSISTS MAKE YOU FEEL
Read more... )

....

The Characteristics of a NarcissistRead more... )

Using Image to Puff Up the False SelfRead more... )
evile: (clutter)

 

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  • Apr. 18, 2005

    evile: hey :) How was your weekend?
    SkyeDS: overloaded :)
    SkyeDS: how was yours?
    evile: Pretty good.
    evile: did y'all end up in G'town or waco on Sunday?
    SkyeDS: we left Valley Mills, picked Jubilee up in Waco, went to
    Georgetown, and I threw an impromptu party at Duke's that everyone
    involved enjoyed (two birthdays this weekend, sonar0m and keject)
    evile: *nod* I wasn't sure if you were going to be at G'town or Waco,
    so I didn't bother to make the drive to Drandmir on a 50-50% that
    you'd be there.
    SkyeDS: we didn't get there till 4:30 or 5 anyway
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: we made GT at 4:30 and stopped at Albertson's to get
    cheesecakes so was closer to 5 when we hit the park
    SkyeDS: and it started to rain so we loaded up right after having
    unloaded and went straight to Duke's.
    evile: heh. That was the other thing about yesterday, it kept looking
    like it wanted to rain and I didn't want to be out in it.
    SkyeDS: it rained enough to persuade us to pack up and go to Duke's
    (covered patio and pavilion in the y ard)
    SkyeDS: and when we got to Duke's it stopped
    evile: Sounds about right :P
    SkyeDS: I fed 7 people on $30 so that isn't too bad (not counting the
    cheap two liters and the cheesecake)
    evile: cool :)
    SkyeDS: coupla more from Drandmir came with us so keject, sonar0m, Mike
    and keject' friend Sean ditched, Jubilee sewed, we took turns riding,
    and every waitstaff there was glued to the door and the windows the
    entire time we were there
    evile: heehee!
    SkyeDS: it would be the perfect place for a mini event.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: their pavilion is lit and up all the time, all you ahve to do
    is show up and take over
    evile: awesome.
    SkyeDS: people can be fed there for $8 - 10 which is what a Drandmir
    feast usually costs anyway
    SkyeDS: no cooking, no cleaning.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: yard big enough to ditch AND run an Equestrian list
    SkyeDS: and then there's the patio on top of the pavilion
    SkyeDS: and obviously, flushy toilets and sinks
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: only thing you can't do is camp, and a lot of people for the
    sake of money, time and gas don't do three day camping events as
    often as they did before anyway
    evile: yeah...
    SkyeDS: at the trail ride, we got a prime site on the No Generator
    hill, right between the portapotty and the water faucet
    SkyeDS: under a million trees, and completely surrounded by
    bluebonnets on all sides
    SkyeDS: shade all day long, 20 degrees cooler than anywhere else
    evile: nice.
    SkyeDS: what happens when you get where you're going on time.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: there was the usual stupidity there, which is what happens
    when you get hundreds of stupid people and their poor horses together
    evile: that's frustrating...
    SkyeDS: and as usual, all of the bad habit therapy ended up coming to
    me for problem solving...which I usually get paid for, but oh well.
    SkyeDS: I need to learn to say no. like that's ever going to happen,
    lol.
    SkyeDS: I feel too bad for teh horses to say no.
    evile: pass out a bill and/or business card, along with the advice, I
    guess.
    SkyeDS: that little boy mechanic who helped me didn't do that
    evile: *shrug*
    evile: and will you know where to take your stuff to, next time,
    since he didnt' give you a card?
    SkyeDS: yep
    SkyeDS: I intended to go to where he works in Taylor and give him one
    of my cards with one free ride written on back in case he has a kid
    or a ladylove who might lkike to ride if he doesn't
    SkyeDS: follow through is not my middle name :|
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: but it's still in my memory so it will get done, sooner or
    later
    SkyeDS: too many people give to me, for me not to give back, and I
    know I don't give back as much as I'm given, and that's not good
    evile: I guess that's a good way to look at it.
    SkyeDS: to pay back a good deed, I should be doing three good deeds
    for people other than the one who did me the good deed
    SkyeDS: so I've got a long way to go by that system
    evile: I count "I didn't kill anyone today" as one of my good deeds.
    SkyeDS: lol
    SkyeDS: I feel so sorry for these poor horses
    SkyeDS: I can make their lives easier for three days, but what is
    three days in the span of their entire existence
    evile: lots of people have them that shouldn't that's for sure.
    SkyeDS: I'm always more grateful for my own children when I come home
    than I was before.
    SkyeDS: Not once but three times I've been given what I want, not
    what I deserve.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: crap. It's raining. I wonder if our walk is going to get
    rained out...
    SkyeDS: :|
    evile: I guess we'll wait and see how it's going after work.
    evile: The safe place walk was fun; I walked with LadyDreamtime and Onyxlynxx,
    and we had a nice visit & good walk. the memorial display at the end
    made me cry a bit...someday I fear I'll be walking with "in memory
    of [brother A]" on the back of my shirt.
    SkyeDS: superlative company (don't know what to say about ...that...)
    evile: nope. If she kills [brother A] or drives him to kill himself, she is
    dead.
    evile: and then I won't be free to walk in the safeplace walk (if I
    get caught, that is...)
    SkyeDS: getting caught is the operative phrase as I have said many
    times about many thigns
    evile: *nod*
    evile: Tomorrow I'm hanging out w/[sister H] and [Aunt L], so I will get to
    hear all about [sister H]'s cousin's wedding, and whether or not [sister H] got
    to see [brother A] while she was in SA.
    SkyeDS: I don't ask because I figure if something happens you think I
    should know you'll tell me
    evile: *nod*
    evile: The story now is that [brother A] has disowned us, but *[Rubber Pig]* is
    going behind his back to try and get us all together for some kind of
    family gathering/reconciliation.
    SkyeDS:
    http://public.fotki.com/Gabercrombie/gulf_wars_05/img_0218.html
    SkyeDS: there's my kuchi belt and my tassel belt I bought at War
    SkyeDS: http://public.fotki.com/Gabercrombie/gulf_wars_05/page14.html
    (whole series)
    SkyeDS: please don't take this the wrong way
    SkyeDS: but I'm not interested in S------ family drama
    SkyeDS: I don't know how exactly to put it other than that
    evile: OK
    SkyeDS: I've had enough, and all I want at this point is to shelter
    Sineatr as best I can
    SkyeDS: which is to say, it isn't that the morbid Gemini curiosity
    doesn't want to hear all about it, because of course I do
    SkyeDS: what I'm NOT interested in are whatever machinations she's up
    to now
    SkyeDS: so whatever she's planning, she might as well leave me and
    mine off the guest list.
    evile: I will just avoid the topic, because you've stated your
    boundary and I dont' want to cross it.
    SkyeDS: no no no no
    SkyeDS: I knew that was going to come across wrong
    SkyeDS: not boundary between me and you
    SkyeDS: between me and her
    SkyeDS: I don't care if the family gets mad that Sineatr and I don't
    intend to attend whatever little dysfunctional soiree she intends to
    throw
    evile: *shrug* I am not going to upset you unnecessarily; youv'e said
    you don't wanna hear it, so I'm not gonna talk about it.
    SkyeDS: I do want to hear about it
    SkyeDS: what I don't want is to attend whatever she's planning to do.
    evile: that kind of goes without saying, for ALL of us....
    SkyeDS: and I don't want anyone guilt tripping Sineatr because we aren't
    going.
    SkyeDS: no more walking on eggshells for the sake of peace and quiet.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I hate combat as much as the next person, moreso than most,
    but sometimes if you don't have reasoned and mature confrontation
    that leaves nothing but combat
    SkyeDS: this isn't like your teeth
    SkyeDS: they don't just go away if you ignore them long enough
    evile: I hope you don't plan on shutting out [Aunt L] and [Uncle B] if they
    invite you to a family gahtering simply because the pig will be
    there.
    SkyeDS: oh no
    SkyeDS: she's enlisted L&B?
    SkyeDS: after they cursed L&B out???!!!
    evile: we are *ALL* done with her. And Done with [brother A] until he pulls
    his head out of...wherever...
    SkyeDS: why, why, why would L&B have her in their castle again after
    that, I don't understand
    evile: [sister H] called over there and tried to make brunch plans w/[brother A]
    while she was in town for her other family wedding. She does want to
    see [brother A], and the baby, but isn't interested in the rest.
    evile: What's to understand? we love [brother A], forever and always and we
    will do whatever we have to do ...if he brings the pig to
    thanksgiving or xmas, then we put up with her.
    SkyeDS: I'm trying to get my mind around this, bear with me, I'm sorry
    evile: Anyway, nice pictures. Thanks for sharing them. :)
    evile: who's the girl on Mirage?
    SkyeDS: that's the princess of Glen Abhan (AR)
    SkyeDS: she wasn't authorized and so those pics got me into trouble
    evile: oops.
    SkyeDS: I had multiple requests for royals to be on Mirage all week
    long, and so after a while I made the assumption that if someone in
    authority told me it was ok for someone to be aboard, I took their
    word for it
    SkyeDS: and everyone WAS authorized, except her.
    SkyeDS: so from now on, I don't care who says otherwise, it's my
    horse, and my ass in the sling, and I"m going to make sure for myself
    that someone is authorized to be up there
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I won't be a hard ass and ask to see the card, if I get lied
    to, it isn't my fault.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I don't want to be personally responsible for the loss of the
    entire Equestrian Charter
    evile: that would suck!
    SkyeDS: even Mirage knew something was wrong, that's why I was
    (visibly, I think) having to calm her down
    evile: aww...
    SkyeDS: she was all, what is this side saddle shit, you tell that
    woman to put her legs where they belong
    SkyeDS: and what do you mean you want me to walk with her like that
    evile: not good.
    SkyeDS: I sit side saddle all the time, BUT, I don't ask her to move
    when I do, she knows NOT to move when I'm like that (it's like,
    parade rest)
    SkyeDS: come to think on it, I sit indian style with both legs up all
    the time
    evile: yeah. she's got a good sense of the stability of her 'load'
    SkyeDS: I am overhorsed. twice over.
    SkyeDS: Dr. Magnusson said, there's nothing better for the inside of
    me than the outside of Mirage
    evile: I guess that's a good thing :)
    SkyeDS: I'm still trying to track on the whole holiday thing
    SkyeDS: so the "conciliation effort" is going to be attendance at
    holidays, is that correct?
    evile: .No.
    SkyeDS: I thought invite would be from [Rubber Pig], not from L&B
    SkyeDS: we would never boycott L&B
    evile: Pig is trying to organize some kind of family visit, where she
    gets all of us togehter without [brother A]'s knowledge, and then I suppose
    we'll all make up ...or something.
    SkyeDS: that's insidious
    SkyeDS: if she knows that if the invite comes from L&B that puts us
    east of a rock and west of a hard place
    evile: No, where I got confused was in your boundary-setting
    statement of being tired of  Family Drama. If that meant you
    were boycotting L&B as well.
    SkyeDS: no.
    SkyeDS: I didn't realize she would be able to use L&B
    SkyeDS: after what they did to them
    evile: she is trying to invite L&B to whatever reconciliation
    gathering she is trying to organize. as far as I know she hasn't
    asked for the gathering to be at L&B's or in any way hosted by them.
    SkyeDS: that would be, I don't know, like X trying to use Sineatr to
    make up with you, or something (flailing around here for a proper
    analogy)
    evile: *shrug* she called [Aunt L] to ask for phone #'s, mine and whoever
    elses, to call us and invite us to whatever she's planning behind
    [brother A]'s back.
    SkyeDS: we would never turn down an invite to L&B's holiday or no
    SkyeDS: (assuming we weren't already committed obviously)
    evile: [Aunt L] gave me a heads-up that she'd given [Rubber Pig] our home #, not
    my cell, and that I might get a call from [Rubber Pig] sometime soon. So
    that's what I was attempting to pass along to you.
    SkyeDS: that's odd. they already have #s.
    SkyeDS: unless [brother A] has them and [Rubber Pig] has no access to what he knows.
    evile: No, [brother A] has numbers. [Rubber Pig] does not. And [brother A] (supposedly)
    deleted all of his family's #s out of their phone.
    SkyeDS: of course, I don't know [Dad]'s #, but if I asked Sineatr for it,
    he'd give it to me
    evile: well, that was part 2 of Pig-Drama, she told [Aunt L] that if [brother A]
    finds out she's speaking to his family, he "will leave her."
    SkyeDS: <makes jacking off gesture>
    evile: oops, misplaced quote m arks. anyway, you get the picture, and
    I'm done talking about that mess now.
    SkyeDS: well, of course we're not going to ignore L&B or anyone else
    in the family if A&L happen to be there.
    evile: it will not come up again. Do you want me to set up a pig
    filter on LJ so you don't have to read about it, either?
    SkyeDS: no no no no no
    SkyeDS: what i meant was, this whole thing where everybody guilt
    trips you to make you play along with her
    SkyeDS: because the rest of them are
    SkyeDS: they've done that to Sineatr too
    SkyeDS: although, either not as badly as you
    SkyeDS: or he isn't as susceptible
    SkyeDS: (or both I suspect0
    SkyeDS: I already told [Dad], we aren't playing the game anymore
    SkyeDS: and I meant it
    SkyeDS: they want to keep playing that game, go right on ahead, but
    I'm not letting them make Sineatr play it anymore.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: they aren't getting to Sineatr anymore in any way other than
    past my sword.
    SkyeDS: so funny that keject and Kaleon thought they were worth all the
    ire in my rant, when I was speaking as much of A&L as them if not more
    SkyeDS: I was just more specific about them because I couldn't even
    begin to address the specifics of A&L in one post.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: as fond as I am of storytelling there are some stories too
    long and tedious to be told
    evile: yup
    evile: not to mention crazy.
    SkyeDS: I knew I was going to give the wrong impression, I'm sorry
    evile: Don't be. I'ts probably healthier for all concerned not to
    have them come up as a topic.
    SkyeDS: I truly did mean just to reiterate what I told [Dad]. We
    aren't playing as a team anymore. We're playing everyone for
    themselves.
    SkyeDS: I'm sorry if he, [Mom] or anyone else doesn't like that, but
    that's the way it's going to be
    SkyeDS: their way didn't work.
    SkyeDS: (I never thought it would in the first place, but now we have
    incontrovertible empirical proof)
    SkyeDS: were it my place, I would have already put you behind the
    sword too and said, you don't get to force evilE either. but that is
    not my place.
    evile: I haven't been forced to do anything.
    SkyeDS: not from lack of effort.
    SkyeDS: and I really don't like effort that includes guilt trips and
    other emotional manipulations.
    SkyeDS: I've had enough "if you loved me (us) you'd (whatever)" from
    Kaleon to last a lifetime (and from my own family for that matter).
    evile: a boundary was stated. It would have been healthier to hear it
    directly from mom, instead of [Dad] saying "Your mom doesn't like to
    hear you talk about ___" but it's no different than you stating the
    same/similar. And me choosing to honor you and our relationship by
    abiding by that boundary is not me being manipulated.
    SkyeDS: looks like manipulation to me
    SkyeDS: this is the family playbook and you're not a good family
    member if you don't play from the same playbook
    evile: *shrug*
    SkyeDS: I'm not going to play from a failing playbook, and I don't
    care what mud is flung at me because of it. I just think that the
    mud shouldn't be flung at all.
    SkyeDS: they devalued you, or made you feel devalued, because you
    wouldn't play the game with the rest of them, and that was wrong, and
    that's my opinion, I'm sorry.
    evile: You're entitled to your opinion.
    evile: A lot of topics should be limited given proper
    time/place/audience, the pig goes into that bin. Along with "you
    don't talk about whips in front of people with abuse issues" and "you
    don't lick pudding off your friends in front of children and god-
    fearing families in the middle of the san marcos river on a Sunday
    afternoon" Time & place. Very important.
    evile: there are some things that are never appropriate to discuss,
    with anyone, ever, and many many more that you just have to be
    careful of time, place & listeners. That's all.
    SkyeDS: still will be insidious if she manages to use L&B to further
    whatever she's up to
    SkyeDS: we're not going to stop attending family functions, I mean,
    if she's invited, it isn't our function, so we'll do the best we can,
    like we did at TG
    evile: they're going to be invited to whatever, same as everyone
    else.
    SkyeDS: we get an invite from L&B, you, or whomever, we're there if
    we aren't already elsewhere, as we have always been
    SkyeDS: invite comes directly from her, she can kiss my morbidly
    obese ass
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and I will still enjoy the idea of making her a permanent
    denizen of my stockpond should she step foot on my piece of dirt
    evile: I don't think [Aunt L] really could think of a polite way to NOT
    give [Rubber Pig] my number when she called and asked directly for it....
    SkyeDS: poor [Aunt L]
    SkyeDS: I know I keep saying that, but I don't know what else to say.
    evile: me neither.
    SkyeDS: matches and kerosene would nicely and neatly (well kinda)
    solve so many problems - but people keep telling me no, LOL
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: my number isn't unlisted, so, if she knew where to look she
    could find it, no point in being upset if someone else gives it to her
    SkyeDS: I don't care who calls, I have call registry and answering
    machine for just such reasons among others
    SkyeDS: re [Aunt L], until she sets and defends her own boundaries,
    nothing to do but feel sorry for her.
    evile: *nod* She and [uncle B] have both done more for [brother A] than anyone
    could expect or ask for. No one would blame them for shutting down
    the gravy train at this point.
    SkyeDS: I suspect they won't though.
    SkyeDS: and I don't expect I'll ever get my mind around [Rubber Pig]'s
    internal logic. But it seems inconsistent that she would be so
    stupid as to attempt to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
    SkyeDS: that would be like, I don't know, I like evilE's gift giving,
    so, I'm going to curse her out. That makes a whole fuckload of
    sense, right there.
    evile: *shrug* [brother A] did the cussing, and I guess we weren't supposed
    to see the little puppet strings tied on.
    SkyeDS: I keep trying to do right, which I think is, avoiding
    negativity as much as possible, saying a small blessing and trying to
    move away from the energy
    SkyeDS: it ain't easy
    evile: sounds like a good thing to try, anyway.
    SkyeDS: too many facets of my nature to fight against, my misplaced
    maternal instinct to protect my family, my miss fixit tendencies, etc
    SkyeDS: now if I can just keep consciously trying to link for my
    subconcious that this is the best way to protect and fix, etc
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I thought we done good at TG.
    SkyeDS: all of us.
    evile: My liver can't take much of that kind of good. :P
    evile: glad they live in SA and we don't see them often.
    SkyeDS: sounds like to me everything's about to go back to the status
    quo of TG if that's what you would call status quo.
    SkyeDS: ask me 10 years ago and I'd have said, I'm not going to be
    anywhere they are, after they attacked Sineatr and me, without an apology
    SkyeDS: I'm old fat and lazy now (as opposed to young, not fat, and
    lazy) and I don't care
    SkyeDS: I take situations as they come, and if I run into her
    socially, if she behaves, I'll behave.
    SkyeDS: she wants warfare, I can oblige that too
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I just want her to finish out her pattern and kick [brother A] to the
    curb...and we'll pick up the pieces and go on from there.
    SkyeDS: I thought she had, I thought there was already an I"m taking
    my kids to my sisters and leaving you, but it doesn't seem that that
    lasted long
    SkyeDS: just annoying. like flies. doesn't matter how good your fly
    spray is, you have to apply it regularly, it doesn't work to just
    apply it once and hope for them not to come back.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: that would be amusing. spray her in the face with horse
    flyspray and say, shoo!
    SkyeDS: amusing to me, anyway, probably not to anyone else.
    evile: *shrug* I've got somethng in my mind more like my doc martens
    meeting her throat, that would amuse ME.
    SkyeDS: can of OFF and a match. hm.
    SkyeDS: (bad Skye, bad, I know...)
    evile: heehee.
    SkyeDS: we were in GT last night till past 11 pm
    SkyeDS: we went over to Sonya's house after Duke's BBQ and were
    sitting out in t he driveway for a while, and someone said something
    I put a privately amusing spin on, so I turned my head away and bit
    my tongue
    SkyeDS: Mike said, Skye's smiling again, something is a foot. And I
    said, strangled, no I'm not, and it was obvious that I was trying not
    to laugh
    evile: sounds like a fun time :)
    SkyeDS: just not very convincing when you turn your back, and say
    you're not smiling, and you're trying not to laugh out loud.
    SkyeDS: poker face is not my middle name (neither is grace)
    evile: I wish I'd gone..but I knew for sure Jinx wasn't going to be
    there, and with only a 50/50 of y'all, I wasn't sure it would be
    worth the trip.
    SkyeDS: wouldn't have been. good call.
    SkyeDS: you're always welcome to call my cell phone any time and I'll
    tell you exactly where we are should you ever want to join us
    wherever that may be.
    SkyeDS: I'm trying to do better at having it on me rather than
    leaving it in the truck.
    evile: I wouldn't have driven to WAco for nothin'
    evile: (well, nothing fun, anyway, if a blood transfusion was needed,
    I migh tthink about it.)
    SkyeDS: I think you would enjoy some parts of the cbar ride.
    SkyeDS: you'd enjoy the scenery anyway
    SkyeDS: I don't know that you'd enjoy what they consider an "easy"
    ride.
    evile: I had plans for Saturday, so I wouldn't have been able to do
    that at all.
    SkyeDS: they have two every year, april and october, if you ever want
    to, and if you don't, you don't, was just thinking out loud
    SkyeDS: you know the first time we went, I had the sense to say, I
    want the baby ride
    SkyeDS: and then the outrider got us lost
    evile: April is Scarby and October is TRF, so the chances of me
    having a free weekend in either month aren't good.
    SkyeDS: and then gave us over to the advanced ride to get us home
    SkyeDS: which put us in stuff that was not Kansas, toto.
    SkyeDS: but then we went on a baby ride that went the way it was
    supposed to, but it still wasn't what I would call easy.
    SkyeDS: and in succeeding years, every time we take the baby ride up
    and down serious inclines with rocks and into and out of creeks, a
    number of very loud complainers say, t his isn't where we want to be
    SkyeDS: and of course at that point it's a little late
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I really can't ride until I lose weight.
    SkyeDS: so, this time, they had four rides initially
    SkyeDS: the baby ride was supposed to be road only
    SkyeDS: nothing that if you didn't like, you couldn't go around, or
    turn back
    SkyeDS: and that worked wonders on Saturday
    SkyeDS: Sunday morning they put the baby ride with the intermediate
    ride
    SkyeDS: and I thought they were supposed to split off before we did
    inclines, rocks or water
    SkyeDS: and let me explain inclines
    SkyeDS: riding straight up and down rocky cliff faces.
    evile: so who all went on the trail ride? You, sonar0m, Sineatr, and
    keject, and only 2 horses?
    SkyeDS: anyway, they didn't split off, and one of the easy riders
    came down and got hurt, and the scouts didn't handle it the right
    way, which could have gotten a whole lot of us hurt
    SkyeDS: keject and Jubilee couldn't go after all so it was the three
    of us
    SkyeDS: which is about perfect
    SkyeDS: sonar0m and I rode on our own Friday afternoon, Sineatr didn't
    come until dinner
    SkyeDS: Sineatr and I rode Saturday morning, we all slept through the
    Saturday afternoon ride, none of us are capable of two three hour
    rides in one day
    SkyeDS: and sonar0m and I rode on Sunday
    SkyeDS: and Arthur did well when he was alone (during meals) and had
    one of us with him at all times except meals
    SkyeDS: and they had a folk band that played music I grew up with and
    haven't heard forever, and so the band/dance was cool. Wished I'd
    packed my dulcimer, bodhran and tamborine, but since when have I ever
    needed those on a trail ride before.
    SkyeDS: they offered to share a microphone and I said, no that's
    ok, I'll sit over here by the fire (next to them) and just sing on my
    own loudly if that's all the same
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: this works much better, because Arthur can come with, rather
    than be at home with a sitter, and everybody gets as much riding (or
    more) than they can handle
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: everyone wanted pictures holding Arthur on their horses.
    SkyeDS: if you're into wildflowers, canyons, waterfalls and
    breathtaking scenery, cbar has it all in spades
    SkyeDS: the cowboy ambience might drive you crazy
    evile: *shrug* the rocky river ranch girls campout thingy was pretty
    cowboy-ish, and it was fine.
    SkyeDS: I tend to be pretty comfortable in any situation I choose to
    be in, but I"m a chameleon that way.
    SkyeDS: I come home from trail rides sounding like my grandma
    (accentwise)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: an entire half of my bloodline lives in bumfuck Oklahoma, I
    can deal with countryfried shit, and even fit in with that milieu; I
    just prefer not to if I don't have to.
    SkyeDS: I thought that might be the case.
    SkyeDS: you've probably already seen the pretty pics on their website
    right?
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: and they're open to the public year round, you could always
    go by yourself
    SkyeDS: either just camp, rent a horse, whatever you wanted to do,
    completely alone
    SkyeDS: be a great place for War for that matter, but ya know.
    evile: I can't ride until I lose some weight and/or gain some muscle.
    I'm so heavy & flabby now that I'm not in charge of my own inertia,
    which is dangerous when you're not on your own 2 feet.
    SkyeDS: I know :(
    SkyeDS: I don't think I should be on Mirage at this point after my
    last weigh in
    SkyeDS: I was worried I'd bring her down going up the cliffs
    SkyeDS: but then she CROW HOPPED all the way up one and I had to
    pause and think about that
    SkyeDS: crowhopped AND sidepassed, at the same time, at a gallop, all
    the way up to the ridge (200 foot cliff face)
    evile: wow.
    SkyeDS: but it's like this
    SkyeDS: if you're comfortable with the way you hold your own weight
    without foisting it all off on the horse, you're fine
    SkyeDS: if you aren't comfortable in your own skin, you aren't fine
    SkyeDS: so you're right on the money
    SkyeDS: one of the greenies was riding this clyde one day, not an
    attractive one at all, and then the next day he was riding the
    prettiest, most muscular chocolate Perch
    SkyeDS: but he honestly didn't know what the red in the tails meant,
    so Jesse instructed him
    SkyeDS: by telling the Perch, when he stuck his nose where it didn't
    belong, in no uncertain terms, that "nice girls don't do that"
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: my horse buying seems to go in pairs. I want a Frieisan and
    a Vanner together.
    SkyeDS: a drum would be too big, I think
    SkyeDS: a cob would be pretty, but not the same size as the friesian
    SkyeDS: although welsh cobs are gorgeous too
    SkyeDS: and then I want an andalusian, and either a shire or a perch
    to go with
    SkyeDS: Mirage and Jess are in their own way very aesthetically
    pleasing together, having similar size and build, and even Bridget
    was pleased with them in Ballet du Cheval class.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: so much gorgeous scenery and other stuffs in the world, so
    little time (and $)
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: cooking vacations in Italy seem to be popular now (drool)
    SkyeDS: "I'd like one horseback/cooking combo vacation in Italy
    please?"
    evile: that woudl be cool.
    SkyeDS: [Sharjinka]'s digs are cool. She went on one in Italy as well as
    Greece.
    evile: Belize, too.
    SkyeDS: this year's events calendar seems to be less full than last
    year's, which I think is a good thing. We were full tilt all year
    last year.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I am totally done with work now....*sigh* ready to go. Oh
    well, I took tomorrow off so I guess I should tolerate the next half
    hour-ish with good grace.
    SkyeDS: :)
    evile: I'll be happy to hear about Kristy K's wedding, and we're
    going to Clarksville to look at engagement rings for [sister H].
    SkyeDS: love retail therapy :)
    evile: [sister H] and Jimmy are talking Marriage. Jimmy hasn't proposed
    yet; [sister H] is insisting on 'a ring and a scene' before she considers
    it Official.
    SkyeDS: smart girl, head on her shoulders right
    evile: We looked at rings at the mall on Thursday, Helzberg, but she
    didn't like the settings that stick up very high off the ring.
    SkyeDS: I don't either. I don't like how high off my hand mine is
    set, but it is set in 6 prongs and not 4, so I felt a little more
    secure about that
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I didn't want a traditional diamond at all, I wanted a pearl,
    but Mom threw a fit and it was just easier to give in. and we found
    a flawless little one at a pawn shop of all places
    SkyeDS: I'd rather have one small and perfect than big and glassy
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: we didnt' go in the pawn shop looking for a ring, btw, we saw
    it while we were in there I wanted a tamborine
    evile: that's the way things happen, I've noticed. Find one great
    thing while looking for something completely different.
    SkyeDS: I am not the least bit ashamed of our "dumpster diving"
    tendencies though.
    evile: nah, it's fun.
    SkyeDS: one man's trash is another man's treasure
    evile: yup. I really like the idea of Freecycle.
    SkyeDS: tis good to get a ring that flatters the finger, such a thing
    as too small, but also too big
    SkyeDS: specially diamonds, that lose quality as they get bigger
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I don't like diamonds, and they still come from South Africa,
    which is still a shitty place to give money to, so ... if I ever get
    a big pricey ring I'll get a Yogo Sapphire or something unusual like
    that.
    SkyeDS: as far as diamonds go, I like what I've got. I wanted a
    pearl though.
    evile: pearls aren't good on rings because they're soft & scratch
    easily.
    evile: well,not on a daily-wear ring like an engagement or wedding
    ring, anyway.
    SkyeDS: an amethyst would have been good too
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: or for that matter, carnelian, garnet, lapis or malachite
    evile: lapis is fairly soft, too.
    SkyeDS: I admit that I have my rings off as often if not more so than
    on, because of all the stuff I do with my hands
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I don't know if you saw it, but girls night tonight is an
    exploration of the new Whole Foods
    SkyeDS: that's right close, I haven't gone over there yet
    SkyeDS: I used to take Arthur over there and to Book People
    SkyeDS: (he stayed outside of WF of course)
    SkyeDS: (we take turns)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: anyhoo, we'll be there around 7:30
    SkyeDS: just now getting around to reading LJ
    evile: *nod*
    evile: after taking Friday, I figured you'd be pretty swamped today
    SkyeDS: I am so tired too. I can't promise I wouldn't fall asleep at
    dinner. I might fall asleep on the road if I didn't have my cell
    phone.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: thank you for thinking of me :)
    SkyeDS: time fer you to git?
    evile: pretty much. *hugs* talk at ya later.
    SkyeDS: wind to your wings, ciao belleza :)


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    Apr. 13, 2005

     

     

    Me and J-Law were back and forthing. [Her brother R] came over to her place last
    night and they drank boddingtons & scotch and he helped her feel
    better about work. I told her to give R a big hug for me, because
    I miss my brother so much.

    I don't think A, as I knew him, exists anymore...in hte same way
    that Sineater is gone. :(

    I just hate how the rubber pig has turned him so mean and hateful. He was
    always quick to anger, but just as quick to forgive and forget, and
    she seems to have beaten that last part out of him. Mom says he's
    ugly to Trey and mean to the children now, too. that's just not my
    brother at all...

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    Mar. 31, 2005

     

     

    evile: hey, I'm back on my own machine, in my own cube at work again!
    SkyeDS: welcome back to the world of the online living!
    evile: yay :)
    SkyeDS: methinks I'm going to do another banishing come the next dark
    moon
    SkyeDS: the rejects have formed a nother mutual hate society, since
    they weren't getting our attention before
    SkyeDS: on a similar note I hope that msg at midnight is the last
    such you receive :(
    evile: Oh. I guess they still aren't getting mine.
    SkyeDS: I find it interesting that when I send all his negativity
    back to him, the next thing he does is draw Chris Loy to himself
    evile: *shrug* I turned the volume down on the machine before bed
    last night. He can rant and scream at hte machine all he wants, if it
    makes him feel better. Obvously he's feeling pretty powerless and
    miserable if he has to lash out like that.
    SkyeDS: Ms Negativity Magnet 2005
    SkyeDS: I'm surprised he hasn't done same to us
    SkyeDS: are sineater and I not more to blame than you and Lynn?
    evile: Oh, I didn't realize kaleon and chris loy are in touch.
    SkyeDS: yep
    evile: Oh, he ignored our cousin Donna when she went to visit
    yesterday--she lives in alabama and last time she was in TX was for
    nanny's funeral.
    SkyeDS: same old same old where the rejects are concerned, both of
    them
    SkyeDS: we can't get skye's/sineater's attention any other way
    SkyeDS: so we're going to use LJ to do it
    evile: oh well. I don't pay much attention to chrisloy, anyway, and
    haven't responded to any of kaleon's posts in my LJ after the first
    one kind of surprised me into it.
    SkyeDS: and since you've shown no interest in the mutual hate skye
    society, c hris has.
    SkyeDS: <shrugs>
    evile: feh.
    SkyeDS: I find it ironically fitting that he attracted her to himself
    after I sent all his shit back to him and told it to stay there.
    evile: ack. that's true.
    SkyeDS: and I fucked up before I realized what the new tactics were
    SkyeDS: but I won't do that again
    evile: *nod* good plan.
    SkyeDS: with regard to the new tactic, I could just stop reading
    comments to your posts
    SkyeDS: and your friends altogether
    SkyeDS: but you have too many interesting friends so I'm not gonna
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: seems like CL is trying to court Julie real hard
    SkyeDS: didn't she unknowingly attack Julie over Poly Big Fun?
    evile: yeah, they have some things in common (kids, etc.)
    SkyeDS: I am proud that I have restrained myself and refrained from
    posting that the Rejects need to Get a Life, Have Some Pride, and
    Move On
    evile: hee.
    SkyeDS: Her husband won't speak to me anymore so I'm going to be best
    buddies or whatever else with a man she dumped (what 3 times)
    SkyeDS: and no matter what sineater tells me about his personal
    situation, I'm going to believe kaleon instead (who tried to get rid
    of sineater for 7 years and is known to be truth challenged)
    evile: sad.
    evile: she has so many problems of her own, but instead of focusing
    where she can do some good, she gets in other people's business.
    SkyeDS: no shit, amen
    SkyeDS: two people who don't have decent jobs if jobs at all
    SkyeDS: lousy living conditions
    SkyeDS: lousy health
    SkyeDS: lousy love lives (or they wouldn't be so obsessed with mine)
    SkyeDS: and all they can find to do is meddle in our affairs, when
    we're perfectly happy
    SkyeDS: anyway, I have declared my LJ and my life a no drama zone and
    anyone who doesn't like it, I won't name names ([brother A], rubber_pig, Chris,
    kaleon) can goplayintraffichaveaniceday
    evile: yup. Last time kaleon contacted me, I told him I hoped that
    everything he was working towards woudl work out for him. I really
    do. If his life was better and more interesting, he would lose his
    unhealthy focus on things in Austin.
    SkyeDS: I wonder if he's noticed that you did not friend him back
    when he friended you
    SkyeDS: I mean, gawud, people, get a fucking clue already
    SkyeDS: Chris still has sineater friended even after he told her himself
    to get lost and why, because she thinks she can "save" him.
    evile: whatever. I got a really good book a few months ago called "to
    be an anchor in the storm" and it basically says you don't ever try
    to 'save' people. Behaving towards them in that way only victimizes
    them more.
    SkyeDS: learned that the hard way with my sister
    SkyeDS: that situation was never as bad as [brother A]/rubber_pig
    SkyeDS: quit trying to save her, and lo and behold, she started
    coming to me when she felt like she might need to be saved.
    evile: yup. work on the relationship YOU have with the person, don't
    try to control their behavior, or tell them ugly stuff about other
    people, just make sure the lines of communication are open between
    yourself and the person you care about. Don't focus on outcomes, just
    build trust
    SkyeDS: CL obviously doesn't get that
    SkyeDS: even IF sineater needed saving, she's the last person in the
    world he'd let do it now
    SkyeDS: because her method of trying to save him alienated him so
    evile: yup. sineater has never liked to have people up in his business.
    SkyeDS: as for kaleon wanting to save sineater, after 7 years of abusing
    sineater himself (mentally and emotionally), yeah, right. what.evar.
    evile: sad.
    SkyeDS: if the two of them weren't so annoying with their public
    idiocy, it would be funny, I guess, in a mixture of ha-ha and ironic
    SkyeDS: I had been wanting to test the waters again at Polys, to see
    if I could spend some time just sitting and listening to kulilinei and/or
    ladydreamtime
    SkyeDS: now I feel like I can't go because CL will think it was
    because of her
    evile: it's sort of like watching retarded children playing with
    their poop in public...it will only bother you if you look or get
    close enough for them to touch you :P
    evile: CL only shows up at first wednesday and poly 101, and then
    VERY rarely.
    SkyeDS: I am so tired of everything I say and everything I do being
    put under their distorted little microscopes
    evile: *shrug* retards playing with poop.
    SkyeDS: ya. Next time I go to Polys I'll bring gloves and lysol :D
    evile: there's usually enough people at 1st Wednesday so that you
    don't have to hang with people you KNOW you dont' get along with. You
    may end up sitting near a stranger who eventually bugs you, but odds
    are good that the good company outweighs the bad
    SkyeDS: last time wouldn't have been bad if I had stayed with sineater at
    your end of the table.
    evile: maybe.
    SkyeDS: and, I was thinking, in probably far distant future, ladies
    night would be nice, I could hang with Sharjinka and feel comfortable
    that way. And I know CL doesn't go there, so I won't be under a
    microscope
    evile: Just FYI, depending on who's hosting girls night, you may or
    may not be invited. CL is definitely not on anyone's list to be
    invited personally.
    SkyeDS: ya, I came away with that understanding after the rifka thing
    evile: if it's ever at a coffee houe or restaurant, I'll definitely
    pass the info on to you. We figure public places are neutral ground,
    ya know?
    SkyeDS: I would have enjoyed melting pot but no $
    SkyeDS: that is changing Monday you know
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I will feel more comfortable if Jinx is there.
    evile: *nod* She had mentioned maybe having girls night at her place
    sometime.
    SkyeDS: it's not on my immediate list of things that need doing
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: but it is nice to know that when I want to, I can do it,
    without it being subjected to teh microscope
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: had wanted to take sonar0m to GWNN when we first started out
    together, and kaleon threw a fit
    SkyeDS: "you're only going there because I go there"
    SkyeDS: riiiiiiight.
    evile: "what happens at Girls Night STAYS at Girls Night" :)
    SkyeDS: I so want to be where I know you're going to be, just because
    your'e going to be there, that's why I broke up with you (more than
    once)
    evile: well, there's Voyagers. And kaleon's umptyhundred miles away
    now, so who gives a crap what he thinks of where you're going and why.
    SkyeDS: he also had Pagans Night Out staked out too. nevermind that
    he went to his first one with *me* and I had been going on and off
    for years
    SkyeDS: I only have one question, and it won't ever be answered, so I
    try not to think about it too much too often
    SkyeDS: why me?
    SkyeDS: why can't these people find something in their own lives to
    obsess about, especially if they're so damn happy as they claim to be?
    evile: *shrug* No clue.
    SkyeDS: well, that they aren't as happy as they say they are is
    apparent
    evile: yup
    evile: easier to fixate on something external and fuss about it than
    fix your own stuff.
    SkyeDS: life is much easier when you don't give a damn about what
    other people think
    evile: I guess.
    evile: I care what some people think. But not what random strangers
    think
    SkyeDS: I'm going (insert place here) because I want to, I don't care
    who else is going to be there, or what they're going to ascribe to me
    by way of motive
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I cannot control my reputation, just my character
    SkyeDS: you can't go (here) because CL will be there, kaleon, or Bridget,
    or whomever, that sucks, no more of that shit.
    SkyeDS: I thought I went to University to get away from High
    School. Perhaps I am mistaken about that.
    evile: yup. and if you show up and behave graciously, consitently,
    eventually that one thing that someone heard about you once will fade
    in the face of the reality of you here & now, being a decent person.
    evile: rumors only work when enough people don't know the people
    involved or the situation well enough to make their own decision.
    SkyeDS: or refuse to think for themselves even when they do have
    enough information
    SkyeDS: but I can't control t hat, so t here's no point in fretting
    over that either
    evile: nope.
    SkyeDS: I have enough bugs to shoot at without other people throwing
    more at me
    evile: I was well known nad well liked enough by the time
    brandyeileen pitched her hissy in the poly yahoo group, that people
    just kind of laughed at her attempt to make me look bad
    SkyeDS: fairly common for people to hang themselves if you give them
    enough of their own rope]
    evile: I'm not sure how things would have gone if I'd been new to
    the group at that point & had that blow-up with her. Or how it may
    have been different in person. Or how it may have been if she was the
    established group person with a bad opinion of me that she'd shared.
    evile: But CL and kaleon, well nobody remembers kaleon, I'm sure, and
    CL doesn't show up often enough for people to really know her, and
    the people who DO know her remember her as the person who tried to
    shoot down Big Fun without knowing anything about it or who was
    organizing it...so ti's not like they have fan clubs anywhere.
    evile: Kili has a circle of admirers, but she's also rarely in
    attendance at poly dinners.
    SkyeDS: other than Robin I doubt I have any interest in whomever is
    in her circle
    SkyeDS: and I think knighthorse and I would have been just fine if it
    hadn't been for her
    SkyeDS: Robin knighthorse and I were having a reasoned, mature exchange of
    differing ideas until she got involved in it
    SkyeDS: I will have to admit to childish, prurient desire to watch
    her get a smackdown from ladydreamtime over her insult to rainking. but hey,
    at least I"m honest.
    evile: One of the reasons ladydreamtime has a place of respect in the BDSM
    and Poly communities is that she does not lose her shit publically
    SkyeDS: don't know that verbally addressing someone's bad behavior is
    losing one's shit publicly?
    evile: No, but she handles things very coolly.
    SkyeDS: that may be, but I seem to remember that Kil was careful
    enough not to even potentially misbehave where ladydreamtime could catch it,
    probably for good reason
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: Scrith (who is her Other?) made an effort to specifically
    invite us back
    SkyeDS: I thought that was nice
    evile: Scrith is a very nice person.
    SkyeDS: by now I know who in the SCA to avoid and who not to (to an
    extent, new pitfalls can always be uncovered)
    SkyeDS: and even moreso in t he HFS
    SkyeDS: there's got to be a way to do the same in polys if I am ever
    so inclined
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: we were going to have a mounted security interview SUnday but
    the girls are two inches too short
    evile: oh, that sucks!!
    SkyeDS: you might find the Test interesting.
    www.mountedsecuritypatrol.com (employment, then horse candidate, then
    training)
    evile: hm, nothing's coming up. Oh well.
    SkyeDS: that might not be the right site
    SkyeDS: and puter is slow because I'm installing and running avg,
    adaware and spybot for the first time
    SkyeDS: try just mountedsecurity.com
    evile: http://www.mountedpatrol.com/training.cfm

    is that it?
    SkyeDS: bad me, yes.
    SkyeDS: alpha & omega
    evile: Ok. cool.
    SkyeDS: I told the very nice guy this morning, with regard to, all
    the interested people's horses so far are too short
    SkyeDS: well, this is central texas. we rodeo here, and other
    western stuff.
    SkyeDS: western horses tend to be short, and tanks
    SkyeDS: it isn't that we don't have tall horses here, it's just that
    they're usually English - hunter/jumper/dressage
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: those people aren't usually interested in things like mounted
    patrol
    SkyeDS: and their horses, while tall enough, there's no fucking way a
    highstrung hotheaded english horse is going to do squat on that test.
    SkyeDS: Bridget would be the first to tell you that her Lippi mare
    Moose couldn't pass it
    SkyeDS: I figure, get enough horses that are tall enough that can
    pass it, good for you, no reason to settle
    SkyeDS: doesn't look at this point like that's going to happen, and I
    figure the client won't wait forever, so they may be back
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: I would like to see what they're using as a teeter totter
    evile: looks like a pretty thorough program.
    SkyeDS: really good book on police methods of bombproofing I've been
    meaning to get
    SkyeDS: but I know I can get it online cheaper thru a bookclub than
    in store
    evile: probably :)
    evile: I love amazon.com for that.
    SkyeDS: I'm going to join an equestrian book club whose prices are
    even lower, and w hatever I can't find there, I already have saved as
    wish list on amazon
    SkyeDS: do love amazon
    evile: oh, cool.
    SkyeDS: aeclectic.net > drool > go to amazon
    evile: *nodnod*
    SkyeDS: I can't think of a better gift than a gift cert to amazon
    personally
    SkyeDS: I gave my mom a good sized one for Xmas
    SkyeDS: having remembered that I got one for my birthday last year :P
    evile: Yeah, my friend J-law's bday snuck up on me this year, so that's
    what I got her. She got Reidel "O" glasses :)
    SkyeDS: it would probably be good if I ate lunch before like 3 pm
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I get busy doing stuff and don't realize I"m hungry until
    it's painful and begins to affect my mental acuity
    evile: that happens to me at home sometimes.
    evile: Sweetie's got the living room wrecked, so I havent had room to do
    an exercise video (even if the vcr or dvd player was connected to the
    TV, which I doubt, since he got the projector) But now my work room
    computer plays DVDs and I have adequate floor space, so I'll be
    trying to get back into a good exercise routine now.
    evile: Plus it's nice outside now, so I can walk.
    SkyeDS: I have so wanted to be outside for the last week
    evile: it's been beautiful out. Sunday at Excalibur was gorgeous &
    then I took Monday off & just had a nice day at home, windows open,
    puttering in the yard a bit, etc. :)
    SkyeDS: bought this cav hat with lots of feathers to go with this
    gorgeous black silk garb blouse I bought
    SkyeDS: and the wind Sunday was too strong for the hat
    evile: oops!
    SkyeDS: but wind not withstanding I hope this weekend is like last
    SkyeDS: I"m going to make some obstacles to take to the park for
    bombproofing
    evile: drandmir Sunday, then?
    SkyeDS: nod
    SkyeDS: I may start going to Morconor on Saturdays in some instances
    in future
    SkyeDS: Waco isn't much further away than Gtown
    SkyeDS: 70 miles, straight up US77
    evile: that would be fun
    SkyeDS: this weekend last weekend off for a bit
    SkyeDS: events Apr 8, Apr 15, Apr 22
    SkyeDS: off eeyore's weekend
    SkyeDS: and if May is like last year there's an Eq event every single
    weekend
    evile: wow, busy!
    SkyeDS: I begin to perceive a pattern. couple of months in spring,
    couple of months in fall
    SkyeDS: guess if you included War though, that would be 3 months in
    spring, and 3 in fall
    SkyeDS: all spring, all fall (smart witch, smart)
    evile: that's pretty much the best weather for being outside...
    SkyeDS: ya
    SkyeDS: although there's SCA every weekend all year round somewhere,
    I meant eq events - which are more weather dependent than just about
    anything else
    SkyeDS: the heavies, rapiers and archers will play in any damn weather
    SkyeDS: and just don't have time to attend A&S only events
    evile: I can see that.
    SkyeDS: I didn't even see the inside of the A&S tents at War, or take
    classes, must remedy that next year :|
    evile: sounds like there's a lot that goes on at a war.
    SkyeDS: probably comparable to living at TRF for an entire week
    SkyeDS: if I had sufficient property I"d be hosting Wars and Ren
    Faires too
    evile: a lot of work to put something like that together.
    SkyeDS: wouldn't be in the bidness long though if everyone trashes my
    place
    SkyeDS: we were the last of the Eqs to leave Kings Arrow and when we
    did, you couldn't tell we'd been there
    evile: that's very cool.
    SkyeDS: Daddy = big camper, conservationist. I have been skooled
    since I wuz liddle
    SkyeDS: would have been that way anyway, out of my pagan nature
    evile: heh. you'd be surprised what kind of stuff I've heard from the
    mouths of 'pagans' re: environmental concerns
    SkyeDS: lot of trashy pagans out there, who also think patchouli is a
    substitute for soap and water
    evile: yup
    evile: Niki's new boy had never smelled patchouli before Excalibur :P
    SkyeDS: oh no, poor boy :(
    SkyeDS: I've started noticing a lot of migraneurs are scent triggered
    and sensitive
    evile: heh. it was the patchouli bath salts at the apothecary's
    booth, s that's not a bad first experience.
    evile: I know Donna used to get migraines because of smells...
    SkyeDS: I worked for a lady attorney who required that I wear NO
    makeup, NO perfume, and that all my detergents be scentless
    evile: she was so happy when I took her to Crabtree & Evelyn and
    didn't get a headache. I think it was artificial scents that upset
    her head.
    evile: it would suck to be that sensitive.
    SkyeDS: at State Farm in the Chase Bank Building there was a man who
    wouldn't get in the elevator with women, at all, because of it
    evile: wow, poor guy.
    SkyeDS: although I've known men to bathe in cologne rather than soap
    and water too
    SkyeDS: so avoiding women isn't going to avoid all of it
    evile: we had a supervisor here who did that. he was an obnoxious
    little man, anyway, the scent just helped him overwhelm more people
    at once.
    SkyeDS: I'm not deaf, I'm trying to ignore you! LOL
    evile: he ended up retiring under mysterious circumstances.
    SkyeDS: "we were traveling at half the speed of smell" Ron White
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: time to go home
    evile: 4 minutes, but close enough, I guess, to start making the
    rounds.
    evile: see ya manyana - april fools day :)

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    Mar. 31, 2005

     

     

    Sineater: poit!
    evile: hey :)
    evile: how's everything with you?
    Sineater: pretty good
    evile: that's good to hear.
    Sineater: catcvhing up on stuffs
    evile: *nod* yeah.
    Sineater: ignoring punctuation
    evile: absolutely!
    evile: [brother A] ended up ignoring cousin Donna when she called & went
    down to SA, BTW.
    Sineater: donna
    Sineater: hmm name not immediately familiar
    evile: [bubba], K/Mom & Aunt L's first cousin, lives in Alabama.
    Sineater: sigh
    Sineater: goddamn. well, there it is.
    evile: [brother A] sure will be sorry when he finally gets his head out of
    his ass (or rubber_pig's cooch) and discovers that the world has moved on
    without him.
    Sineater: makes no sense. by all accounts that boy was rolling in
    pussy, even in greencastle
    Sineater: on a better note, jose linked to a creationist site that is
    such a hoot
    evile: he characterized himself before rubber_pig as 'sex starved'
    evile: I like Jose's sense of humor.
    Sineater: ???sex-starved??? [brother A]???
    Sineater: i do too, even if i have some issues with jose himself
    evile: so he says. after much careful coaching & brainwashing by the
    pig, I'm sure.
    Sineater: why did sex-starved even come in to it???
    evile: No clue, ti was a long, bizarre rant that had nothing to do
    with anything as far as I can tell...
    Sineater: were we, his family, obligated to lay him more often or
    something???
    evile: I dont' have any idea. I think he was trying to characterize
    himself as being morally inferior and physically addicted, and the
    great and wonderful rubber_pig 'cured' him and made him into a better
    person (who follows her lead in beating her children & cuts off his
    family for spite)
    Sineater: :(
    evile: yup. it's like she's found every bad quality he has and is
    encouraging him to wallow in them.
    evile: he's lazy, oh, HERE, my stepdad will pay our rent and my legal
    husband will work and pay for everything else, AND take care of the
    older girls.
    Sineater: well baby jesus still loves her.
    http://objective.jesussave.us/babyj.html
    evile: ew.
    Sineater: if you click repeatedly on his head he makes a noise like
    an x-wing fighter :)
    Sineater: dad isn't paying rent for them is he??
    Sineater: and the eyes follow you around freakishly...
    evile: No, HER stepdad.
    Sineater: ?????????????
    evile: her insane fucking bitch of a mother is married to a nice
    littel doormat who pays rubber_pig's rent.
    Sineater: is that the large rabbi we met, or is that her real dad?
    evile: large rabbi is her real dad. he's a winner, too.
    evile: he's stubborn, she makes sure that fault is used to her
    advantage.
    evile: *sigh*
    Sineater: ponders instant karma...
    Sineater: even john lennon would say, "kill the bitch." >:(
    evile: yup
    Sineater: and yoko would say, "eeeeee-ee-ee-ee-oooh-ooh-oo-ooooaahh-
    ah-ah-ah-akakakakakakakkk
    evile: *giggle*
    evile: so you start work Monday the 4th, eh?
    Sineater: nodnod
    evile: cool. I know that will be a big load off your mind.

evile: (clutter)

 

    Mar. 30, 2005

     

     

    lat night at Midnight. I didn't hear the phone ring, I just woke up
    when the message came on, and then Sweetie turned it down for me.
    Something about how he'd just gotten the postcard, and that he
    assumed I meant "rubber_pig" when i said "Someone's wife" and that rubber_pig
    was actually trying to get him to forgive his family, bla bla. Sweetie
    turned the volume down at that point.

    What an inconsiderate oaf; normal people who WORK are not awake to
    take calls at midfuckingnight. I only want calls at that hour if
    there is grevious bodily injury!


    Feh. stupid family drama bullshit.

evile: (clutter)
 

 

 

    Mar. 23, 2005

     

     

    evile: boss lady is gone for the day & we're having a Goodie day, so
    I'm going to risk it & be on icq. Hi.
    SkyeDS: hugs - how was the time off? :)
    evile: that's this upcoming friday & monday.
    SkyeDS: oh. my bad.
    evile: how was Gulf War?
    SkyeDS: wonderful
    SkyeDS: even though the drive was gawdawful and it snowed
    evile: I had heard it was cold, I had not heard that it snowed. Wow.
    SkyeDS: snowed at Troll but not at Barn
    SkyeDS: which just goes to show Equestrians are full of hot air :P
    evile: wow.
    evile: If you get a chance, tell sineater not to feel too bad about [brother A].
    He called Lynn last night and cussed her out.
    SkyeDS: just so you know now
    evile: And left an ugly message on my machine; thankfully I was not
    home to take the verbal beating in person.
    SkyeDS: I got tired of it and I stepped in
    SkyeDS: this game will be played on my terms from now on, where my
    family is concerned, and so I told them
    evile: 'Games' are supposed to be fun. I don't consider this
    a 'game'. But I think we all did what we thought best under the
    circumstances,and if it hadn't been over the dog, it would have been
    over something else. [brother A] was going to break with his family one way
    or the other.
    SkyeDS: he was really hurting sineater
    SkyeDS: I stood by until I deemed that I didn't want to watch anymore
    evile: I figure I get to be a big bag of shit no matter waht I do or
    say, so why say or do anything.
    SkyeDS: they were trying to beat Connie's number out of sineater
    SkyeDS: I won't have that
    SkyeDS: she is my friend and business associate
    SkyeDS: I do not need another enemy neighbor
    SkyeDS: and then rubber_pig is wailing aobut HER dog
    SkyeDS: and already threatening to leave with the kids
    evile: that's some fucked up shit, yo.
    SkyeDS: I w ill not have either of them abusing my life mate of 14
    years. I won't.
    SkyeDS: and then they did exactly what I figured they would do, which
    is call every last member of teh family trying to start a war
    evile: I just know they called you and me, and then Aunt L last night
    SkyeDS: no sooner than rubber_pig hung up on me than they called K/mom who
    called stepdad/G
    evile: Well, they pretty much burned bridges with Mom while she was
    down helping with the baby, so I don't know what they expected to
    accomplish there, other than chaos & upset, which they did.
    SkyeDS: if they step foot on my ranch I'll have them arrested for
    trespassing
    SkyeDS: and/or shoot them
    evile: *nod*
    evile: From the message he left at my house, doesn't sound like that
    will be a problem. He doesn't want anything to do with any of us
    anymore.
    SkyeDS: they were t hreatening to come look for Paulie and harass
    Connie.
    evile: nuts.
    SkyeDS: what takes the cake for me is "her" dog
    evile: I'm sorry y'all had to go through all that.
    SkyeDS: as I am for the rest of the family (HUGS)
    SkyeDS: guess the trip to the sisters' with t he kids didn't last
    long as they were in the same room phonetagteaming us
    evile: was bound to happen sooner or later. Divide and conquer.
    Predators always cull their intended victim from the herd to go in
    for the kill.
    SkyeDS: I was afraid they'd say exactly what they did - "you know
    this was just temporary"
    SkyeDS: excuse me but no, I KNOW he told you otherwise, because I
    HEARD him tell you, more than once
    evile: bottom line: the dog is disappeared/dead, and the situation
    would not be different if he was there 'for permanent' or 'for
    temporary'
    SkyeDS: I wonder if they're going to think about suing us
    evile: rubber_pig's always talking about suing someone; far as I know it
    hasn't happened yet.
    evile: it's all just a game to keep [brother A] unbalanced, upset, and not
    thinking.
    SkyeDS: she's doing a damn good job of that
    evile: yup
    evile: and if anyone was able to talk sense into him (what has
    changed here? the apartment management presumably STILL will not
    allow dogs) then she'd open up a whole new attack on something
    completely unrelated to get him upset all over again
    SkyeDS: even if everyone else had believed the pair of us, I don't
    know if that would have made any difference anyway
    SkyeDS: I don't think anyone had power of prevention here
    evile: They were going to take Paulie to the pound. he'd be long-dead
    now, in that case.
    SkyeDS: I hope everyone has the grace to apologize to you for the way
    they treated you over this whole fiasco
    evile: I could give a shit.
    SkyeDS: a simple acknowledgement that you were right would be a nice
    beginning at least
    evile: I've been the punching bag for a bunch of other garbage all
    through the years, might as well take this hit, too.
    evile: I want my brother back. And/or her FUCKING DEAD! And since an
    apology isn't likely to accomplish either, I don't need or want one.
    evile: [brother A]'s message said he doesn't want to hear from me or see me
    ever again. I don't know how I can let him know I'm still here and I
    still love him while respecting those stated boundaries.
    SkyeDS: no clue.
    evile: Me neither.
    evile: Did anybody get any good pictures of y'all at Gulf War?
    SkyeDS: think so, don't think they're downloaded off camera yet tho
    evile: Did anybody win any eq. prizes?
    SkyeDS: [Keject] took first place in ShrekQuest
    SkyeDS: (Keject - Drandmir)
    evile: oh, tha'ts very cool.
    SkyeDS: I spent $200 in 20 minutes
    SkyeDS: sineater helped but not much
    evile: wow.
    SkyeDS: was in teh company of queens, duchesses and baronesses all
    week, loaned Mirage out to them, she acquitted herself admirably -
    she is a lady's/child's horse
    SkyeDS: 3500 people there
    evile: big crowd!
    evile: I had phone duty so I get to leave at 3:30
    SkyeDS: that's a blessing :)
    evile: yeah.
    evile: I could not get to sleep last night, so I am pretty tired
    today. I had been thinking of going to Sharjinka's craft night, but I
    may go to bed early instead.
    SkyeDS: there will be other craft nights
    evile: yup
    evile: I think I'm going to have to think about making my LJ friends
    only...far too many wierdos friending me these days & tossing random
    comments into my LJ.
    SkyeDS: :|
    evile: including your little friend. ugh. "always here for you" I'm
    so f-ing sure.
    evile: I am going to hurt my brain trying to figure out "why
    now" ....what's changed? the baby drama dying down so we had to start
    something new? what?
    SkyeDS: which little friend
    evile: You know, your favorite little friend. He who will not go away.
    SkyeDS: I truly am confused
    evile: I'm sure you'll figure it out. ;P
    SkyeDS: not kaleon surely
    SkyeDS: I have nto been to LJ today, so I'm not sure what's going
    on ...
    evile: Well, it'll definitely teach me not to throw pity parties for
    myself; all kindsa wierdos show up uninvited.
    SkyeDS: am I going to have to go look at LJ to figure out who he who
    will not go away is?
    evile: As far as I know, you only have 2 'don't go away mad, just go
    away''s in your life.
    evile: And Mr. New Zealand freak doesn't have a LJ as far as I know.
    SkyeDS: did you delete whatever he said already?
    evile: nope, not going to give him the satisfaction.
    evile: Let it stand as a monument to hypocrisy and a reminder to self
    not to put things out in public
    SkyeDS: <looking>
    SkyeDS: go ahead and come running. sineater will kill you and I won't
    stop him t his time.
    evile: *shrug*
    evile: *takes knife out of back*...yeah, I'm going to call you when I
    have problems in life...FUH-reak.
    evile: I guess he probably assumed that you and I were at odds once
    again and figured he could get the dirt by pretending to be
    concerned. fool me once & allathat.
    SkyeDS: we're at odds?
    SkyeDS: which explains why we are mutually friended in LJ?
    evile: no, but what else could I possibly be posting in LJ about? If
    my life is miserable, obviously it's because of you. (that's true in
    his world, he assumes it's true in all worlds)
    SkyeDS: ROFL
    SkyeDS: if it were me you would have removed me from your friends list
    SkyeDS: something anyone with the iq of a house fly could deduce for
    themselves
    evile: *shrug* no tellin'.
    SkyeDS: isn't that nice to know he still reads your LJ
    SkyeDS: <smirk>
    evile: I dunno...there's another one that hurts my brain trying to
    figure out...
    SkyeDS: my banishing must have worked on some level at least that it
    took me that long to figure out who you were talking about
    evile: yeah...if he won't move on, at least you aren't going to let
    it upset you anymore.
    SkyeDS: oh well, you know I'm here and my feelings and all that, so I
    won't add my due lire to your LJ
    evile: *nod* I really hadn't intended on throwing a pitty party...but
    it was gratifying to realize that people do give a shit about me. Too
    bad it's not my birth family, but chosen family is a fine thing, as
    Onyxlynxx said.
    SkyeDS: who else has been invading your LJ?
    evile: a bunch of TIMsters I don't recognize, apparently, and some
    guy from Nolans' friends list.
    SkyeDS: :|
    SkyeDS: guess I"ll update my journal
    evile: 15 minutes to go!
    SkyeDS: :)
    SkyeDS: spent $155 on kuchis
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: got a belt, a big heavy piece that could be either necklace
    or belt, have to figure out what to do with it
    SkyeDS: and a reversible tassle belt
    evile: this is at SCA war thing?
    evile: I heard the vendors there are faboo.
    SkyeDS: we spent $200 in 20 minutes
    SkyeDS: sineater helped but it was mostly mee
    SkyeDS: and would have been more if I hadn't grounded myself
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I can't think of anything I might have wanted that wasn't
    there aplenty
    evile: My favorite scent vendor was SCA. Her website doesn't exist
    anymore...I wonder if she's ever at any big SCA things.
    evile: course I haven't done any sniffy stuff in awhile. I gave my
    soapmaking stuff to Andre
    evile: well, time for me to get gone. Have a good afternoon/evening.

evile: (clutter)

    Mar. 23, 2005

     

     

    evile wrote,
    @ 2005-03-22 10:55:00

    Current mood: blank

    The phone calls last night from both brothers? You called it--useless
    pointless drama!

    Several months ago, The Pig insisted on moving them into an apartment
    that didn't take pets. The problem with that is that my brother [brother A]
    had a dog at the time, who was pretty much a member of the family &
    her children loved, bla bla.

    The dog was a pretty pitiful specimen--[brother A] adopted him when he was
    living in New Mexico, living with a woman who had several dogs, and
    the dog grew up roaming free over several acres with about 4 other
    dogs. When [brother A] moved him to Austin, he was an only dog in a house
    and a backyard. He was scared to go outside, he was scared to be on a
    leash, he was pretty miserable until he moved to San Antonio and the
    children became his new pack.

    The Pig was making noises that sounded to me like she was going to
    get the dog put down, and then of course that could be a nice big
    guilt-chip to play against [brother A] anytime things got bad. You know she
    would have found some way to twist it around and make it [brother A]'s fault.

    So in desperation & perhaps an attempt at making common cause with my
    brother sineater and his wife, I asked for their help to find the dog a
    home. Turns out that they have a neighbor with 4 or 5 dogs, and
    acreage, so we talked among ourselves, and worked out a plan with
    [brother A], he would bring the dog to my aunt & uncle's in Austin, and then
    sineater would stop by and pick up the dog and take him to Rockdale and
    the cool neighbors.

    sineater and his wife [told me that they] told my brother [brother A] that this
    was a permanent situation, that the neighbors were adopting the dog,
    and [brother A] agreed, apparently feeling at that time that a live dog you
    can visit is better than nothing.

    I made contact with the neighbor lady, promising to pitch in for vet
    expenses. She took him in for a checkup later that week, got him
    caught up on shots, and turns out the dog was riddled with heartworms.

    I sent off a money order, the dog was treated, and a couple days
    later he disappeared. Heartworm medicine is poison, and the dead
    worms can clog the veins and arteries and kill an animal...I fear the
    worst, but I don't really know.

    A couple months after that, [brother A] started calling sineater and talking
    like he wanted the dog back. sineater didn't know what to say, so didn't
    say anything.

    Apparently, it was decided by my mom and stepdad that it would be
    better to tell [brother A] that the dog was dead, rather than disappeared.

    And apparently sineater told [brother A] last night that very thing. So that
    went over badly and now sineater and [brother A] are both calling me.

    I have no doubt that it will all become my fault, and the dogs
    disappearance/death will be on my hands. I find it rather hard to
    care, honestly. And I'm not calling either of them back. I get to be
    the big bag of shit no matter what I do, so may as well make the
    least amount of effort.

    --------------------------------------------------------------

    nikiyoy
    2005-03-22 19:09 (link) Select
    *hugs* ....It's sad that they need to find things to have drama
    about.. it seems like they are scraping the barrel here.


    bramblekite
    2005-03-22 20:50 (link) Select
    Good timing on all of that--my aunt & her friend are going to San
    Antonio for the day today, were going to drop by the apartment
    (management of which STILL doesn't allow pets, BTW, so why the HELL
    is this coming up now??) to drop off easter baskets for the children
    and run...now that will turn into a "how could you do that to my dog,
    how could you let THEM do that to my dog? wah wah!" session if my
    Aunt isn't careful. (she got a psych degree, she can take care of
    herself. I'm not too worried)

    And of course my stepdad is in Houston Monday-Wednesday trying like
    hell to get his mother's legal affairs and bills and whatnot in order
    so he isn't going to want to hear all of this hysterical phone
    calling from his sons over the damn dog.

    And of course either/both brother may know that Mom and stepdad are
    planning a nice stress-free couple of days at my house, so let's go
    ahead and ruin THAT too while we're at it...

    AND ITS ALL evilE'S FAULT!!!!!

    Fuck. Me. Runnin.

    onyxlynxx
    2005-03-22 20:51 (link) Select
    *hugs* No good deed seems to go unpunished with this group.


    yup
    bramblekite
    2005-03-22 20:58 (link) Select
    Sometimes the only sane response is withdrawal.

    I am cleaning house & enjoying the sun and breezes; this too shall
    pass.

    kulilinei
    2005-03-22 21:09 (link) Select
    Sounds like a script from the Fox TV series "Arrested Development"...

    ***hugs***

    ya know
    bramblekite
    2005-03-22 22:41 (link) Select
    I wondered why I disliked that show so much...
    ==============================================

    evile (bramblekite) wrote,
    @ 2005-03-22 21:30:00
    Current mood: crappy


    It is as I assumed it would be: a Situation created in which my
    brother [brother A] feels betrayed by his birth family and cuts them out of
    his life. It didn't have to be the dog, it would have been something
    else if that hadn't been so convenient.

    I got a call from [brother A] on my home answering machine about 6pm
    (luckily we were not home--on our way to dinner with Peglegasus at the time)
    and the gist of it is "You've been making assumptions and talking
    behind my back, I don't want you or anyone else in my family involved
    with me anymore. Don't call me. I am not speaking to you anymore"
    (more swear words than that, but there ya go.)

    Interestingly, "Skye" called both my cell (with her cell--that's
    NEVER happened before) and also left a message on the home phone
    sometime after [brother A]'s call and before I got home this evening 9-
    ish. "just wanting to check in"...this woman NEVER EVER calls me.
    EVer. She has sineater call me to ask me stuff for her; I think this is
    the second time in the entire time she's been with sineater that she has
    actually picked up a phone and called me with her own hands.

    I suspect that whatever conversation [brother A] and sineater had last night
    (and maybe another one today?), I got painted in a very unsavory
    light, indeed, thanks to the helpful background noise of Symmastia
    NightmareScreecher.

    So that puts me down one brother, and if I don't jump through the
    next hoop very carefully, I suppose I'll be on the outs with both of
    them.

    Then again, inaction seems to be gaining me as much or more than
    actually doing anything or calling anyone, so really, why should I
    actually WORK at being the bad guy in all of this ridiculous garbage?

    I called my Aunt this evening, and she said that [brother A] called her
    earlier and started yelling and swearing at her (while holding
    rubber_pig's newborn) and since she didn't want to hear it, and didn't
    think it was good for the baby to hear all of that, she hung up.

    Apparently, my mom & stepdad were going from his mom's house in
    Houston to San Antonio so my stepdad could see the baby on Thursday,
    and then to Austin to stay with me Thursday evening, Friday, and then
    leave Saturday morning. Now, thanks to me, the dog-killer, Stepdad is
    no longer welcome in their home and can't see the baby.

    I love how this is all my fault. They were going to take the goddamn
    dog to the fucking pound, and I at least saw to it that the dog's
    last days were in an environment where he was comfortable, happy,
    running with a pack, well-cared-for by people, etc.

    *sigh*

    In the good news, I am almost done cleaning house. The master bath
    needs some work, the kitchen still needs mopped & swept (that's for
    tomorrow evening), and hopefully Sweetie will at least get his stuff
    that is on the dining table put away so Mom & stepdad will have a
    place to sit and have coffee, or whatever, while they're here.

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