evile

evile: hey! You're here! How was your weekend?
skye_dsDS: awesome, how was yours?
evile: really good :)
evile: Was this the weekend that you went and saw the friesian up
close?
skye_dsDS: yes
evile: cool.
skye_dsDS: I spent five hours yesterday in the middle of an entire herd.
skye_dsDS: pictures of which will be up as soon as sonar0m gets them to
me
evile: cool :)
evile: wasn't very impressed with my faire photos, but went ahead and
put them up anyway.
skye_dsDS: everybody have a good time?
evile: I felt like I looked REALLY cute...and I totally did not.
*sigh*
skye_dsDS: seems like the faire is running later this year than in years
past? (I know Scarbie's started running later)
evile: Yup, everyone had a nice time.
skye_dsDS: whether or not you looked really cute is a matter of opinion
and largely in the eye of the beholder anyway
skye_dsDS: so if in your eye you looked really cute, then you did.
evile: I think it started a weekend earlier and runs a weekend later,
maybe? usually runs into mid-november.
evile: I just need to accept the fact that my charm is maybe 30%
physical and the rest personaliyt, so I'm NEVER going to look as good
in photos as I think I should.
skye_dsDS: I'm in some of the photos they took this weekend
skye_dsDS: you can't even tell I've lost 20+ pounds
skye_dsDS: I hate pictures.
evile: that's depressing.
evile: the only thing photos are good for is to look back and
go "gosh, I was younger and thinner, why the fuck was I bitching
about the way I looked back then?"
skye_dsDS: nodnodnods
evile: Oh well. We had a nice day at faire. I was un-stressy, on the
logic that I had a whole 'nother day at faire on Sunday so I didn't
need to march people around to see and do everything in 1 day. And
then Sunday didn't happen....but oh well. It was still a nice trip.
skye_dsDS: the parade had a better turnout this year than last year, my
lesson never showed up, but I rode around the park anyway
skye_dsDS: someone was riding Roman in the parade (standing up)
skye_dsDS: so then in the park, with three birthday parties full of
screaming children, rather than in the safety of my training area at
home
skye_dsDS: sonar0m hops up on Jesse's back
evile: wow.
skye_dsDS: the short racing rein we ride her with of course isn't long
enough for that so I pulled out twenty feet of silklike rope and he
used that
evile: jeez. glad he didnt' die.
skye_dsDS: he still doesn't manage forward movement very well but he can
jump down off her a nd land flat on his feet
skye_dsDS: then out comes the bow, and a live arrow
skye_dsDS: I'm like, why are we carrying live arrows (rather than
boffer) in the truck?
skye_dsDS: we ate lunch in Mt Vernon with Mom and Gramma who cut my hair
and gave me lots o stuff
skye_dsDS: and then spent the rest of the day with magical magnificent
critters
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: the black truck is threatening to explode on me on the way to
work, so I'm not driving it anywhere else until sineater comes down here
and looks at it
evile: sounds like a plan.
skye_dsDS: the Faire folk have been impressed with the mounted archery
(at a gallop) so far, I t hink they'll be even more impressed with
mounted archery Roman style
skye_dsDS: although why it's called Roman I have no idea.
evile: *shrug* no tellin'
evile: I actually managed to meet up with everyone at faire that was
going thsi weekend...except rengeek, and he works there so I don't
know if that counts or not.
evile: I didn't get as many photos as I wanted. I wanted one of just
Jaime, Sweetie, and Max in their kilts, and I wanted one of all the girls.
skye_dsDS: I love pictures, as long as I'm not in them.
evile: Met Max's latest FB, she's actually really nice, cute, and
sweet. She was wearing a purple sort of harem girl/bellydance outfit.
evile: I didn't get any of her, either. She's in the background of
the Michael & Harmoni 'gangsta' pose
evile: Cam, Stephanie and Scott took a bunch, I hope they email them
to me.
skye_dsDS: purple :)
evile: Yeah, she was cute. She reminded me of you.
skye_dsDS: last time I told the boys "I am not cute!" I got "adorable,"
so I decided to stop before I was further behind.
evile: Rio hates 'cute' too. Sorry, I was trying to say something
nice about you. I won't do it anymore.
skye_dsDS: lol I don't hate cute
skye_dsDS: I only protest it with them because they say it so often
skye_dsDS: and thank you
evile: Yeah, I'm sure it's tedious to have handsome men telling you
how much they like you all the damn time. You poor poor woman. Why do
you put up with it? :P
skye_dsDS: actually, generally speaking, it depends on what personal
connotations of "cute" are
skye_dsDS: and I don't mean to sound like "it depends on what the
meaning of the word "is" is"
skye_dsDS: sometimes "cute" completely deprives one of all adult/sexual
qualities...like little sister, puppy dog, baby duck = "cute"
skye_dsDS: although I know that's not what they mean.
skye_dsDS: or you either
skye_dsDS: particularly talking about other women (in purple harem
outfits :)
skye_dsDS: it's tradition. they tell me I've done something cute, or
that I"m cute after having done something cute, and I must respond
like Sam t he Eagle, "I am not cute!"
skye_dsDS: "Kermit, does this show have any culturally redeeming value?"
skye_dsDS: (I love Sam, he's so funny, sorry)
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: anyway, cute girl for Max, in purple harem garb = good
thing :D
evile: I think so.
evile: She and her cutie blonde friend camped with us. They were fun.
evile: I think we had a better drum circle at our camp than at the
main revel fire. (at least in terms of keeping a beat & how much fun
I, personally, had at each)
skye_dsDS: love drumming, more than dancing actually, I can't believe it
took me as long as it did to figure that out.
evile: heh. I just like to listen.
skye_dsDS: you might like all the Hossam Ramzy stuff I bought
evile: comes up on my launchcast from time to time, good stuff :)
skye_dsDS: I was listening to Orloci's fan station
skye_dsDS: only heard one Dead Can Dance, but liked it
evile: I danced to Tartanic out front after faire closed. That was a
blast. We started with 4 people and people kept joining the circle
until there were probably 10-12.
skye_dsDS: heard a lot of other groups I hadn't heard before
skye_dsDS: all goth or ambient
skye_dsDS: I knew I liked ambient generally but now I have specific names
skye_dsDS: dancing = good for you - you are more physically graceful
than me.
evile: I was glad I didn't fall down or drop anything.
evile: I'm tempted to try and make it out to the final weekend of
faire...but it's Fredericksburg Trade Days this weekend...
evile: Introducing my various friends to my various other friends
mostly worked. Michael & co were not feeling too well, but other than
that, it was all good.
evile: So what did you decide about the horse, BTW?
skye_dsDS: it is a go.
evile: neat.
skye_dsDS: sineater is ok, with reservations
skye_dsDS: but then, he always has reservations, and nothing wrong with
that
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: thanks to his english teacher this semester (long story)
skye_dsDS: sonar0m has decided to get out of this semester as best he can
and get something full time in his field next semester.
evile: at least if things really don't work out the people you got
him from arent that far away
skye_dsDS: initially I would have not reacted to that positively, but
thinking about it, sineater never finished college
evile: yup
skye_dsDS: Travis (already a programmer) is in favor of it
skye_dsDS: and Christopher Alex(a friend from college) never finished
school either (although he has every cert known to man including
Cisco)
skye_dsDS: and makes six digits
skye_dsDS: so I'm thinking a shopping trip with sineater and Travis along
for advice, to get a nice suit or two as a Christmas present
skye_dsDS: and Travis and sineater to help me write his resume
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: since their techie world is different than ours, in terms of
dress and paper etiquette, or so they tell me
skye_dsDS: and I continue to look for something that will pay me more
than here
evile: cool.
skye_dsDS: the County Judge in Milam County called for an interview but
wanted me to know (as I had been asking before I even applied and no
one could/would tell me)
skye_dsDS: that the wage would be 8.65 an hour
skye_dsDS: and I said, I just can't do that
skye_dsDS: no way, no where no how
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: of the $12/hr I make now, only $2 goes to gas
skye_dsDS: even with the gas prices the way they are
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: plus truthfully it doesn't really make sense that they would
expect someone with experience back to 1989 would be at a place in
life where she could accept 8.65
skye_dsDS: "but it has insurance and retirement"
skye_dsDS: I have insurance through Dell
skye_dsDS: and retirement does me no good with the bills that are due now
skye_dsDS: but, it is good that I am generating interest
evile: yup
skye_dsDS: I should check the Dell DB again and give sineater my resumes
(one admin, one paralegal) and see what comes of that
skye_dsDS: it would be ideal if all three of us were working at Dell
evile: yeah :)
skye_dsDS: what exactly is in a Scotch egg?
evile: I posted my recipe in my LJ
skye_dsDS: I haven't read LJ in about four days now and man have I got a
lot to catch up on
evile: *nod*
skye_dsDS: I am so glad you had a good weekend :) Lovely weather for it
too (the rain didn't break until we were on our way home, had to
drive 35 mph for hours)
evile: It sprinkled a tiny bit Saturday afternoon, but not too bad at
all.
skye_dsDS: little sprinkles can be quite pleasant
evile: we went into the beer tasting right after that, so we escaped
the post-rain humidity.
skye_dsDS: those sound nummy (no mayonnaise - I can't stand deviled eggs)
evile: they turned out well. Great breakfast for camping.
skye_dsDS: I bet! I remember CMA being cold at the oddest times of
year, and having hot tomato soup with basil, garlic and/or ginger in
combinations, with frenchbread toasted with cheese
skye_dsDS: good outside cold morning breakfast
evile: yup
evile: oopsie, I think I just upset a polyperson.
evile: *giggles*
skye_dsDS: ?
evile: big ol' post of laundry list requirements for the hot bi babe
to complete their family--"must live with us, must accept my spouse's
body as it is, must help us rais our children, must contribute to the
finances, must be wiling to move when we do" and I basically
said "so...what's in it for the theoretical HBB?"
skye_dsDS: where is this? ROFL
evile: I just don't know why anyone would think they were such a
great catch that someone would just sign htemselves for a life of
selfless servitude
evile: it's a frends locked post, I don't know if you can read it. It
was just...sad. Some people are just such takers, they don't even
realize they're painting an exceptionally miserable, bleak picture
for their potenttial new partner.
skye_dsDS: actually, sounds like what Chris and James Loy have said
before
skye_dsDS: but not just them of course, it's a pretty big pattern from
what I've heard
evile: yup. It's practically an epidemic. HBB hunters looking for
cunt-slaves to raise their kids and clean their house and basically
have NO needs or lives of their own.
evile: Good fuckin' luck with that, and don't be surprised if you
find someone like that and come home to find the kiddies cooking in
the crock pot.
skye_dsDS: if I were an HBB, I would be the one with the slaves, thank
you very much
evile: that's pretty much what I'm thinkin'
evile: I have admitted I don't get the 'submissive' mindset, but is
there really a person out there who would be perfectly content to be
used for sex, house-cleaning and babysitting and otherwise sit around
idle with no life or interests or thoughts of their own?
evile: and if there was such a person, would they be interesting
and/or pretty enough for you to want them in that capacity? Seems
like you could have one or the other but not both.
skye_dsDS: zactly
skye_dsDS: the answer to the first is yes, abundantly
skye_dsDS: how attractive they are? ummm, well
evile: <===hetero/mono barren hag, what the hell would I know about
poly HBBs. :P
skye_dsDS: you could easily be a poly HBB if Sweetie allowed
evile: heh. probably.
Anyhoo, It's time for me to blow this pop stand. Hasta :)

Up at 8 am, [Aunt L] came and got me at 8:30 (she'd said 9-ish, but I know
she's always early) breakfast at Trudy's near campus (why does she
like that one so much? Doesn't she know about the one at burnet &
183?), [Uncle B] joined us. Then we left him and went to St. Jon Neumann
(sp?) Xmas craft show/bazarr/thing. I got a dichroic blue heart
pin/pendant and a water bottle purse with a cel phone pocket on it.
Should go good with my faire garb.

Then to Michaels and Steinmart on Bee Caves. I got some silk flowers
and some of that 'rain forest' mohair yarn that I"ve been lusting
after forever. I am going to make bellydance style hair falls at some
point eventually.

Then home, then to HEB and Whole Foods. Got scotch egg makings, stew
makings, bread, wine, fruit and cheese:

Fromager d'Affinois - cows milk 60% fat creamy brie, soft rind,
buttery taste & texture (yummy--got it for [Cousin B] & me last trip to faire)
Kry Irish Cheddar (have never tried)
Chimay Grand Cru - cows milk cheese, "fresh creamy flavor"(I think
I"ve had this)
Natural Smoked Gouda - A standard, everyone always likes


Started the stew in the crock pot (beef, barley, carrots, onion, small
red potatoes)

Made lunches for next week (quinoa, black beans, veggies, cheese & salsa)

Started a load of laundry.

Still to do:

Finish laundry & set out clothes for the week

make scotch eggs

pack for the weekend

make hair falls (?)

8 pm Eshta at Green muse (hopefully!)

ICQ
evile: Happy Monday! How was the rest of your weekend?
SkyeDS: I am sore as hell but we had a very good weekend :) we made
more in two days at Salado than four days at Emory.
evile: that's cool.
SkyeDS: I love Salado.
evile: me too, it's a cute town.
SkyeDS: I notice that no matter where it's posted, we get more of an
audience if we "cry" the show like fifteen minutes before we start.
evile: I didn't see any maps or lists of performers/schedule of
performances anywhere.
evile: I totally missed Rengeek and the pub, wherever they were
SkyeDS: I didn't notice until yesterday that at the main booth
performers show times were posted on the side, but I didn't see ours.
evile: I didn't see anything at all...I liked the bellydance troupe
they had on the main ampitheatre stage, I would have liked to know
more about them.
evile: dammit, ICQ keeps randomly disconnecting me.
evile: Anyhoo...the last thing on my screen was:
SkyeDS: I didn't notice until yesterday that at the main booth
performers show times were posted on the side, but I didn't see ours.
evile: I didn't see anything at all...I liked the bellydance troupe
they had on the main ampitheatre stage, I would have liked to know
more about them.
SkyeDS: that was the last thing I said.
SkyeDS: they were smart and moved down into the shade yesterday.
evile: OK. didn't miss anything. It would be nice if I could stay
connected.
SkyeDS: which was not an option for us.
evile: the horses looked very hot.
evile: [cousin B] started feeling icky, so we left pretty soon after we saw
y'all.
SkyeDS: I would be interested in knowing exactly how hot it was this
last weekend.

evile: it got up to 108 at our house
evile: was 104 when we got home
evile: dammit. icq is being stupid.
SkyeDS: I saw you on AIM when I first logged in, I figured something
was wrong with icq
SkyeDS: SkyeDS: we all stayed so hydrated we were nearly floating
away, and we kept cold gels on our necks, and we still all were heat
exhausted at the end of both days.
SkyeDS: we ate both nights at the Salado Mansion, which was quite
lovely.
evile: I'm glad you didn't get heatstroke.
evile: I was on aim, but none of my messages seemed to be getting to
anyone, nobody was writing back to me, so I figured it wasn't working.
SkyeDS: the boys said they thought it was as hot if not hotter than
Emory.
evile: ICQ is starting to really peeve me. I may have to give it up
for today if I get disconnected again.
SkyeDS: log back into AIM for a bit and I'll see if I can message
you/you can message me.
evile: OK...
AIM
Skye DreamSinger: Earth to evilE, Earth to evilE, do you read me?
bramblekite: taptap...this thing on?
Skye DreamSinger: I see you....
bramblekite: Ok. I'm here...for now. I think.
bramblekite: *pinch* yup.
Skye DreamSinger: :D
Skye DreamSinger: the boys thought it was as hot or hotter than at
Emory.
bramblekite: Lee (the Green Fop) was saying they wanted to get
Tablerock moved a couple weeks later, to hopefully get better
weather. Tablerock was hotter LAST year, if you can believe it.
Skye DreamSinger: I think it would have been better too if they
hadn't had Shakespeare at the same time.
Skye DreamSinger: Shakespeare could have melded just fine with the
faire, but the director in charge didn't want to meld, she just
wanted to be an ass to everyone involved in t he faire.
Skye DreamSinger: If the director in charge of Shakespeare didn't
want to share the sandbox, I don't understand why not reschedule one
or t'other.
bramblekite: yeah...
Skye DreamSinger: this is the same woman who when she talked to me
sounded like someone pissed in her frosted flakes.
bramblekite: some people are just really not very personality-
enabled, I guess
Skye DreamSinger: not one person mentioned her name without something
bad to say attached. including people who had not one other bad
thing to say all weekend. that's telling, to me.
bramblekite: that's too bad.
bramblekite: I enjoyed seeing the Bedlam Bards again, it had been too
long.
Skye DreamSinger: I didn't see much of anybody. I let the boys each
take some time off to go see the sites, but someone had to mind the
shop for them to do that, so I did that.
bramblekite: *nod*
Skye DreamSinger: I wish Excalibur well in finding a new site.
Skye DreamSinger: I felt bad for Marc (Gunn). We auditioned and he
offered us a contract until the jousting team said they'd back out if
we were there, no matter what we did that they weren't doing.
bramblekite: I hear they're looking in Bastrop
Skye DreamSinger: in my personal opinion, I think they'd be better
served to rent sites until such time as they find exactly what they
want/can afford in terms of buying their own site
bramblekite: probably.
Skye DreamSinger: instead of having to settle because of a deadline.
Skye DreamSinger: being in a hurry really isn't good when buying real
estate or a car.
bramblekite: nope. sellers can sense desperation
bramblekite: [cousin B] is all geared up for TRF now...
Skye DreamSinger: did I tell you about the Scarby Romany that came
looking for us specifically and after watching a show said we should
audition for Scarby?
Skye DreamSinger: (that's the bigtime imho)
bramblekite: that would be fun
bramblekite: serious time investment, though. cast rehearsals for
Scarby start in January
Skye DreamSinger: exactly.
Skye DreamSinger: Scarby = 6 mo commitment. TRF would be another 6.
Skye DreamSinger: I don't know that I want even one 6 mo commit, much
less 2.
bramblekite: yeah.
bramblekite: not if you still want to do SCA and or HFS stuff
Skye DreamSinger: we were dead tired after two weekends of Emory, and
we're going to be dead tired after Salado and Red River back to back.
Skye DreamSinger: and Waxahachie is a pretty good drive.
Skye DreamSinger: so my mom calls yesterday, and do they come to
Emory, which is close? no. Do they come to Salado (they love
Salado)? no. They're coming to... wait for it.... Red River (on the
Canadian...excuse me, I meant OK....border).
bramblekite: that's this upcoming weekend?
Skye DreamSinger: nods.
bramblekite: cool.
bramblekite: I love how ICQ hasn't crashed once since I started AIM
Skye DreamSinger: lol
bramblekite: crazy thing.
bramblekite: My weekends in Oct. & Nov. are already starting to fill
up. I have 2 in Oct that I could go to faire, and 2 in Nov, and
that's IT
Skye DreamSinger: did you see the Dragon at Tablerock?
Skye DreamSinger: I want to get sineater that mask.
Skye DreamSinger: I've never seen it, but he has, and he won't buy it
because he thinks it costs too much. So I'm going to buy it for him.
bramblekite: That was a cool dragon. The kids really loved it.
bramblekite: I forgot my camera on Saturday, I was so mad.
Skye DreamSinger: I don't think we got any pictures. I know we
brought the digital. We did take polaroids for people.
Skye DreamSinger: Parents brought this one little boy (he was like 6
yo) and paid for him a nd then he didn't want to ride by himself.
and then after his mom got up with him he didnt' want to ride with
her. Or his dad. or any of us.
Skye DreamSinger: until I put a sword in his hand and a pirate hat on
his head, and then he wanted to ride.
Skye DreamSinger: go figure.
bramblekite: heh. that's funny
Skye DreamSinger: did you see the Dragon do his whole routine with
the head extended and the wings out?
bramblekite: nope.
bramblekite: I did manage to get a couple pictures of [cousin B]'s garb
before we changed clothes and went swimming Saturday:
bramblekite: http://www.freaks.net/eek/gallery/view_album.php?
set_albumName=album01
ICQ
SkyeDS: [14:14] bramblekite:
http://www.freaks.net/eek/gallery/view_album.php?
set_albumName=album01
[14:14] Skye DreamSinger: sineater said he thought he might be carrying
around some form of battery or something else and fans underneat.
[14:16] Skye DreamSinger: I know he's older than the last time I saw
him, but he looks considerably older. Which makes me feel old,
hehe. Were those the wrap pants you made him?
evile: yup. I was up till 12:30 making those suckers.

evile: am I cisconnected in AIM?
SkyeDS: those were very nice indeed.
SkyeDS: do you think they would stand up to riding?
evile: No tellin.
SkyeDS: Jubilee has taken to costuming for $ to donate to Katrina
relief. I may ask her for a pair of wrap pants, and if she can't, I
may beg/plead/try to bribe you.
evile: I hope she comes through for you...those pants look OK but
they would not stand up to any up close scrutiny

SkyeDS: you know I've bought many pair of harem pants that fit just
fine on the ground, a nd that the boys have ridden in just fine, but
the minute I ride in them, they rip almost from one knee to the other
in the crotch.
SkyeDS: I have come to the conclusion that's because the reason
they're big enough for my belly is because they're made baggy enough
to fit around most women's hips with the crotch very low, and so they
have enough material for me to pull them up to my waist.
evile: Thax is probably a better/safer bet for servicable, attractive
garb.
SkyeDS: Right up until I swing my leg over the saddle.
evile: Harem pants don't fit me right, in my experience

SkyeDS: if I want a pair to ride in they're going to have to be made
custom I think.
SkyeDS: but I"d be just as happy with wrap pants.
evile: my 'easy' pattern I got off ebay still had bizarre terminology
that I didn't understand, and left out a step, or didn't have a
picture or SOMETHING. I got confused and pissed off a few times
Friday night.
SkyeDS: if Jubilee can't fit me in, I'll ask Thax. I'd been meaning
to spend money on him anyway.
SkyeDS: I have a whole bunch of repairs that need to be made,
including to a brand new (goddammit) purple matching chemise and
skirt that wasn't sewn right in the first place.
evile: I have a small pile of repairs/improvements that I've been
meaning to get to forever now.
SkyeDS: wow. looks like no equestrian events until mid October.
SkyeDS: I might have time to finish haying. And make repairs. And
clean house. omfg.
evile: *nod* there's always so much to do.
SkyeDS: it will be nice when I am in such better shape that I can
pull off a faire weekend without being so fuckin sore afterwards.
SkyeDS: I spent very little time in the saddle and most of my time on
my feet, playing ground crew by myself (which is usually a 3 or more
person job) and my legs feel like they're going to fall off.
evile: Yeah. building up some endurance will be nice :)
evile: dammit. One of these days, I *AM* going to make it to a pony
play demo.
evile: (reading Jadey's posts always gives me a bit of a brain-ache,
but it's usually worth it to muddle through and figure out what she
means)
evile: OH! and Scrith & felisviolaceous were posting for info about kitty play in
the voyagers yahoo group...you've probably got that set 'no mail' but
it's an interesting thread. Right up your alley, I think ;)

SkyeDS: why? just because I like scratching and biting and had fun as
catwoman for halloween one year? oh wait....nevermind... ;)
evile: *smile* Yeah..that.
SkyeDS: Hurricane Rita is a cat 3 headed right for Houston &
Galveston.
SkyeDS: maybe sineater should call Grammy and whoever's helping Nana now
to make sure they all have evacuation plans
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I don't understand why now that Bill and Katy have married,
graduated and gone off to Colorado that they feel the need to retain
the little shire for the Baylor kids.
SkyeDS: retain control I mean, long distance.
evile: *shrug*
SkyeDS: they handpicked someone to run the shire after they left and
made sure they had control over her by Bill giving her a squire's
belt.
evile: nothing better to do , I guess.

SkyeDS: the poor kids want to march in a parade to get exposure and
the powers that be are poo pooing it
SkyeDS: I told them ya know what? if the parade is nixed at the all
thing, and they don't want to spend the mo ney, let those of us who
march pay for it. the more of us that march, the merrier, and the
cheaper.
SkyeDS: and if we can't call ourselves Morconor, well, the KUmpania
Peregrina would be right proud to lend its name as aegis instead.
SkyeDS: I wonder if kids at Baylor have enough vocabulary to know
what "aegis" means.
evile: how bizarre of them...
evile: HFSers are forever talking about drumming up membership, but
are then not very friendly to new faces, so ...whatever.
SkyeDS: I don't see how the officers can keep the rest of the Shire
from marching under the name of Morconor.
SkyeDS: HFS is not a legal entity.
SkyeDS: they have no legal rights to the use of the name Morconor.
evile: no...but there's plenty of interpersonal bullshit they could
pull on someone who did something they didn't want them to do.
SkyeDS: there's an election coming up. anyone does that to my
friends because of me, or for any other reason, and I'll make sure
that a little "posse" pays dues and votes and there will be pork in
the trees coming morning.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: they rigged the last election.
SkyeDS: deliberately so those of us they knew wanted to pay dues and
vote wouldn't be aware of when things were going on.
SkyeDS: we're going to make sure that doesn't happen again.
evile: sounds like a plan.
SkyeDS: and I can tell by the defensive tone in the Sheriff's last
few posts that she is not popular.
evile: Unfortunate that things that are supposed to be fun, and a
game, turn into such an unpleasant mess.
evile: yay, I'm done with today's quota with 15min (ish) to spare!
SkyeDS: rather than two hours :)
evile: yeah. better pacing. much.
SkyeDS: Mirage galloped the games this weekend. I was proud of her.
evile: that's cool :)
SkyeDS: you know she doesn't like the games at all, whereas Jez loves
them
evile: yeah, but Mirage lives to please you, so that was probably
motivation for her to do it.
SkyeDS: I wasn't riding her.
SkyeDS: I don't joust.
SkyeDS: not in front of people anyway. I've been known to run the
course bareback when everybody's finished and gone and nobody's
watching on occasion (but sure as hell not at faire).
evile: *nod8
SkyeDS: sineater w orked with her for a week and then sonar0m rode her
this weekend.
evile: cool
SkyeDS: it was too damn hot for the barding blankets.
evile: too damn hot for clothes, period :P

evile: a lot of people did it anyway...i love the smaller faires for
that reason--only the hardcore rennies come out and they're gonna
wear their garb if it kills 'em, dammit.
SkyeDS: nods.
SkyeDS: I have more elaborate chemises but I was going to be
comfortable dammit
SkyeDS: I have a black tribal skirt with a red sari strip across the
bottom and a gorgeous black chemise from holy clothing with awesome
drop silk sleeves, but Jubilee tells me it isn't brightly colored
enough to be Romany (and she's right to an extent) plus it's fuckin
hot
SkyeDS: but it still looks awesome.
evile: It'd be great if they could get Ravensloft scheduled and
organized in time to do in Feb or Mar.
SkyeDS: and a married phuri dai and shuvani would usually be much
older than me and would be allowed to wear black and red (as long as
it isn't blood red)
SkyeDS: looks like they're working on that, a nd working on mabank,
which is an excellent site.
evile: that'd be cool. Nice opportunity to wear cloaks & such

SkyeDS: and in Feb it wouldn't interfere with any other faire, s ince
we're going to be committed to Four Winds and Gulf Wars.
evile: yup
evile: well, time for me to take off.
SkyeDS: wind to your wings, wing sib
evile: See ya!
SkyeDS: ciao

evile: hey :) how was your weekend?
SkyeDS: some good, some bad
SkyeDS: how was yours?
evile: same :)
SkyeDS: did you get to see your mom at all while she was down?
evile: during the week, yes. but not over the weekend, she had the
children. She may or may not be back in Austin later this week.
evile: The only things I've heard about Ravensloft so far: hard to
find/poor signage, and someone got heat exhaustion and passed out.
But other than that...
SkyeDS: many someones
SkyeDS: pitifully poor turnout
evile: I'm not surprised--it wasn't well publicized.
SkyeDS: the owner is a sweetheart, lovely fellow, greener than grass
when it comes to event management
SkyeDS: they had the hawkwood militia doing security
SkyeDS: one of the big plusses - we were given a good sized covered
arena with electricity and fans to perform in
SkyeDS: one of the downers -
SkyeDS: one member of security, supposed to be looking out for all
thehorses, decided that rather than use the HUGE barn right next to
the arena, like everyone else, he was going to use the arena
SkyeDS: so the first day I had to do all my pony rides with not one
but two horses known to bite and kick tied up at one end of the arena
SkyeDS: where he was going to leave them until I told the Owners I
would not perform with them in there
evile: sounds a bit disorganized. But nothing fatal.
SkyeDS: the problem with Outlaw's horses could have been fatal
SkyeDS: it gets worse
SkyeDS: I told Management (the owner, and his second) about the
problems and explained to them the liability issues
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: the owner is the number one pro jouster in the world right
now, he ought to know the dangers of the situation without me having
to explain it to him
evile: no shit.
SkyeDS: management told Outlaw not to bring these horses too because
of the biting and kicking
SkyeDS: and they served no purpose
SkyeDS: he rode them in the parade and they stood in stalls the rest
of the event
SkyeDS: didn't joust, didn't do squat
SkyeDS: so on good advice from two different sources, the next
morning, we went to the head of security (Buddha) to get the horses
moved because Outlaw wouldn't move them
SkyeDS: the first incident, another member of security, friendly to
us, persuaded Outlaw to take them out of the arena, but then he put
them into the pens adjoining the arena - where he'd put them t he day
before when he was forced to move them - and from where they can
still attack over/through the rails
SkyeDS: so t hen we had to go to Security again to get them out of
there
SkyeDS: I had been told to go to Buddha to get them moved if Outlaw
wouldn't move them himself
SkyeDS: so Outlaw and his woman wanted to get into a peckerlength
contest with sineater
SkyeDS: I told sineater no, but he did it anyway
SkyeDS: so then I dragged him away by his ear and said, I said no
SkyeDS: sent him off to find Buddha
evile: suck.
SkyeDS: so off Outlaw goes, a nd off sineater goes, and a little later
Outlaw and his woman come back bitching to high heaven but he moves
the horses out of the arena pens.
SkyeDS: I assumed that was because Buddha told him, you move them or
I will
evile: Did you end up getting to perform at all?
SkyeDS: yes
evile: well, that's good.
SkyeDS: they got moved, and I thought great, that's all over
SkyeDS: but it wasn't
SkyeDS: he spent the rest of the day sniping at sineater and sonar0m every
time I was out of earshot
SkyeDS: he got in Chris' face and cursed Chris nearly into tears
evile: that's very unprofessional.
SkyeDS: Outlaw had taken the only community water trough and
appropriated it for his use alone
SkyeDS: after Chris had moved it out of the arena on my orders
SkyeDS: and so after he appropriated it for himself, Chris moved it
again so that the jousting horses could access it
SkyeDS: as it turns out, Buddha was not the one who had the second
set of words with him
SkyeDS: we don't know who did
SkyeDS: Buddha and Outlaw are best buds and thicker than stink on shit
SkyeDS: the security girl who's friendly with us, Aja, member of the
fire group
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: warned me that "someone" who she wouldn't name
SkyeDS: complained to Buddha that our horses were under saddle the
entire day
SkyeDS: well how do we give pony rides between performances otherwise?
SkyeDS: and oh by the way
SkyeDS: unbeknownst to us, there was a pony ride company already there
SkyeDS: with the typical set up, ponies on a spoked wheel
evile: saw pictures of them.
SkyeDS: not in garb either
SkyeDS: since they showed up not in garb they were asked not to come
back the next day
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: they got pissed because about half way through the first day,
when they had gotten all the ride business and we hadn't
SkyeDS: we put our heads together and figured out how to outdo them
SkyeDS: we implemented a full out assault, and also went after
patrons he couldn't - teenagers and adults
SkyeDS: anyway, where the girls were in a covered arena with giant
fans all day
SkyeDS: his ponies were out in the sun all day
SkyeDS: saddled
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: she said that Buddha might say something to me, just because
the complaint was lodged
SkyeDS: and I said, will he say anything to the other outfit?
SkyeDS: and she said, probably not, because the complaint wasn't
lodged about them
SkyeDS: even if they did the same thing
SkyeDS: uh huh. three guesses and two don't count as to where that
complaint came from.
SkyeDS: as it turns out, thankfully, nobody was stupid enough to say
shit to me about that
evile: that sucks. it would have been one thing if someone was
actually concerned about the animals, not just trying to stir up
trouble.
SkyeDS: Jerry the owner came to talk and I thought, well, here it goes
SkyeDS: I've stepped all in it now like I always do, you know
SkyeDS: but he didn't say anything about the girls being under saddle
all day, nor was he upset that I had gotten into it with Outlaw
SkyeDS: he wanted to make sure *I* wasn't upset and that everything
had been handled to my satisfaction
evile: well, cool.
SkyeDS: nods emphatically
SkyeDS: I apologized for the discord, but pointed out that the
liability isn't just mine, it would be his too
evile: yup
SkyeDS: as an equestrian, he knows as well as I do if not better that
non-equestrians are always looking to get rid of us, and just waiting
with baited breath for something bad to happen with the horses
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I told him, who do you t hink the parents are going to come
after hardest?
SkyeDS: not me
SkyeDS: one) they signed a waiver with me
SkyeDS: they haven't signed a waiver with the Faire
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: there's supposed to be a sign up at the gate that serves as a
waiver - I don't know how effective that is in a court of law
SkyeDS: but he hasn't got one up yet
SkyeDS: two) the negligence isn't on my part, it's on the part of the
owner of the horses that are known to bite and kick
SkyeDS: and those horses are here under the auspices of Faire
Management
SkyeDS: and three) people go after deep pockets.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: his pockets are a hell of a lot deeper than mine
SkyeDS: so I told him, look, man, I'm not trying to cause trouble,
I'm trying to cover my ass. AND yours.
SkyeDS: which he seemed to appreciate.
SkyeDS: while it is dismaying to find out that the head of security,
on whom I have to rely to physically remove the horses from my arena
if Outlaw continues this, is on his side
SkyeDS: it is also enlightening to find out that while Outlaw and
Buddha are best buds, he is not best buds with Jerry the owner
SkyeDS: so, if it happens again next weekend, as I fear it might,
then I'll go to Jerry or Robert (the 2nd)
SkyeDS: problem is half the time Jerry and Sabrina (his wife) weren't
even on the grounds
SkyeDS: the professional vendors were all pissed off too
SkyeDS: the bright side was watching little girls wearing purple
wings riding Jesse to the Nutcracker (they all chose the ballet
unanimously over any of the other music)
SkyeDS: and watching a little boy play Smite the Knight with all four
of our "knights" at one time until he was too tired to continue
(which was a long while, that kid was serious)
SkyeDS: and making half a dozen or so new friends
evile: that's good.
evile: did y'all get pictures?
SkyeDS: as far as there being poor turnout, which I guess illustrates
that it wasn't properly advertised, and a whole bunch of other
management snafus, it was the first weekend of the first faire, so
maybe it is to be expected that management is greener than grass
evile: yeah...
SkyeDS: sineater brought the camera and took no pictures.
evile: oh...oops.
evile: sounds like he was pretty busy. Hopefully you'll get a bunch
of good photos next wekeend.
SkyeDS: I sent the boys (sonar0m, Chris, and Jason Poel) out as criers
to advertise that the Dancing Horses were giving rides, that included
costuming, music, and pictures if the parents didn't have cameras of
their own
SkyeDS: and that the boys would groundcrew the rides and take the
horses through all of their dance movements, or that the riders would
be allowed free rein if they chose (and their parents if they were
minors) - we actually had adults riding too
evile: that's very cool.
SkyeDS: I couldn't have allowed free rein if we weren't in a solid
arena
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: so once we started making as big a production as could be
made out of our Dancing Horse rides over the pony rides, we did more
business than he did.
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: who do you know that went?
evile: nobody personally, just read the yahoo group.
SkyeDS: ah
SkyeDS: I haven't been online yet - still checking mail
evile: *nod*
evile: I get to leave early today--worked through 1/2 of lunch. I
want to go see Undersoul on campus at 4. Still not sure how I'm going
to get to WFM, or if I'll get there in time to walk before dinner
iwth the gals, but I'm gonna try.
SkyeDS: it doesn't help that Thursday night something happened that
shouldn't have (long story) and Mirage went to the vet the next day
(I shoudl have gone to the doctor but didn't, oh well)
evile: owie.
SkyeDS: so now I am literally covered in bruises, I look like a black
seedless grape
evile: that's awful.
SkyeDS: and Mirage has a deep cut right behind her eye that couldn't
be stitched
evile: ouchies!
SkyeDS: but we both did okay.
evile: that's good.
SkyeDS: everyone who watched the show both days found different
things that they liked, and that's always interesting to find out
what caught the attention most
SkyeDS: we put Arthur in the show on Sunday
SkyeDS: during a walk sequence
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I wonder what will come eventually of [K/mom] having had the
kids this weekend
evile: no tellin'.
SkyeDS: that's going to be a lot of potential fodder
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I'm sure K considered that beforehand and based her decisions
accordingly
evile: hope so.
evile: she is not even as cynical as I am, when it comes to people,
so she'll probably be caught flat-footed, and end up feeling horribly
betrayed. But...she's an adult and I feel like she was armed with at
least the few worst-case scenarios I could come up with...she knew
there was a risk.
evile: I didn't hang out with them at all. I went to Yoga and to a
poly party, and then toobin' sunday. Apparently Mom brought the kids
over to L&B's on Saturday, but they stayed out in the front yard the
whole time.
SkyeDS: little hot for that wasn't it?
evile: *shrug* NOT my problem.
evile: L&B's house, they said they didn't want the kids inside. [Aunt L]
is at least aware of the risk to [Uncle B]'s profession.
SkyeDS: good for them
evile: The 'poly' party, bTW, was not as much a poly party as a body
choir/swingers party with the polys invited as party
favors/candy/toys for the old stringy perverts. (this is my
impression, at least, dont' know how to approach the hosts about my
feelings without giving offense)
SkyeDS: lovely
evile: I didn't stay long.
evile: no point in staring at withered sausage when I've got
perfectly good at home :)
SkyeDS: lol true dat
evile: I'm looking forward to chatting about the party at girls'
night with the gals who went.
evile: I always worry that I'm being overly sensitive or taking
offense too easily, so I want a reality check of what the party felt
like to others.
SkyeDS: I'm like that too.
evile: Well, I'm going to take off. See Thax and Hojo do their thing
at UT.
evile: & then figure out how to get to WFM.
SkyeDS: have a good time :)
evile: I will. They're really a fun band :)
evile: *hugs* have a good evening :)
SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)

evile: hey. So far no drama today at work. *crosses fingers*
yesterday was long and boring without people to talk to!
SkyeDS: hey :)
evile: I am waiting to see if Jason will respond to the request NOT
to go to the Bakehouse on the 25th.
SkyeDS: I want to go to the Melting Pot again
evile: *nod* That's a great place.
evile: I'm looking forward to tomorrow--SAADE's S&M 101 & 102.
SkyeDS: what they doin?
evile: it's basically a 3 hour presentation of how-to kind of stuff,
looks like.
evile: I reposted Ms. Robin's email about it in my 'kink' LJ filter,I
thought.
SkyeDS: I haven't read LJ in days now
evile: Oh OK then :)
SkyeDS: mof I think yesterday's the first time I had anything to post
myself in like, 10 days
SkyeDS: I spent all day yesterday listening to and ordering music
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: today will be spent writing once himself is gone
evile: *nod* cool.
SkyeDS: got a little used karaoke machine to use as a PA
evile: that's a good idea :)
SkyeDS: don't know if it will run on batteries or not
evile: that would be very useful :)
SkyeDS: bought three renaissance dance CDs
evile: cool :)
SkyeDS: like half a dozen Hossam Ramzy drumming CDs, Saaidi and
Flamenco
evile: awesome.
SkyeDS: and a couple of cassette tapes so that shipping was free
evile: good deal!
SkyeDS: well...except for how much I spent anyway LOL
evile: yeah...but getting stuff for $ is better than using $ to pay
for shipping :)
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: I bought from tower online
evile: cool :)
SkyeDS: they weren't much difference than amazon and something tells
me they're faster
SkyeDS: I'm not happy with amazon right now
evile: yeah....
SkyeDS: I hope to god I didn't mess up
evile: ?
SkyeDS: usually I stay WAY out of the jousting conversations in the
SCA because we don't do the joust with t hem
SkyeDS: and I didn't really have any interest in this one, which is
about lance lengths
SkyeDS: until a number of people said that part of the problem was
people poking at each other, and suggested lanes further apart and
shorter lances
SkyeDS: so when someone pointed out that the pokey problem was in
part due to not being able to make contact, due in part to horses
shying
SkyeDS: I pointed out that a) putting in extra lanes makes the pokey
problem worse
SkyeDS: b) shortening the lances makes the pokey problem worse, make
t hem longer, not shorter
SkyeDS: and c) the professional jousters enclose their lanes
SkyeDS: so that they can drop the reins, the horse stays on the rail,
nowhere to shy to
SkyeDS: they also use 16' lances, not 10' lances
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: now granted, they're trying to knock each other off the horse
SkyeDS: and we don't want to do that
SkyeDS: but why should we be using square wheels when they've already
invented the round wheel
evile: seems reasonable.
SkyeDS: I don't understand why the SCA doesn't just let us full tilt
joust.
SkyeDS: it isn't anymore dangerous than what we're already doing or
what the heavies do.
SkyeDS: "we don't want to use real lances or risk people falling off
their horses"
SkyeDS: well there's already the risk people are going to be unhorsed
SkyeDS: matter of fact there's that risk every time someone's ON a
horse.
evile: pretty much, yeah.
SkyeDS: and a joust is no place to be if you're scared anyway
SkyeDS: "I don't feel safe jousting with 16 feet of oak or pine with
someone I know might be trying to unhorse me"
SkyeDS: "but I feel perfectly safe with 10' of styrofoam, cardboard
and pine handle"
evile: crazy.
SkyeDS: "and a promise from my opponent to try to pull a punch
SkyeDS: with horses that haven't' been fully trained
SkyeDS: that can shy away from the rail because the outside of the
lane isn't closed.
SkyeDS: and t hen someone asked me why they used the enclosed lanes
for quintain and rings too
SkyeDS: and i said, well I don't know, but I would assume it's
because if you can drop your reins and not have to focus on keeping
your horse from shying away, then you can focus completely on
whacking the shit out of the quintain or the precision of running the
rings or whatever else the fuck is you're trying to do.
SkyeDS: I could be wrong.
evile: sounds silly :P
SkyeDS: I'm going to get some 2x2s, put rebar in one end and eyehooks
on the either and run seisal rope through them
SkyeDS: a) it will look period
evile: I guess these are the same kidn of people who treat their
horses like motorcycles or jet skis and dont' think 'hey, it goes by
itself where it wants to go!"
SkyeDS: b) it will make a flexible barrier that I can use as 1 -
lanes, 2 - round pen, 3 - to make myself a portable arena
SkyeDS: and it will cost a whole fuckload less than buying panels to
make a r ound pen too
SkyeDS: I could buy those plastic pennons but those don't really look
period
SkyeDS: when I've got time and inclination I can make cloth pennons
evile: *nod* it's not hard :)
SkyeDS: I know what's going to happen.
SkyeDS: somebody's going to point out that me and mine aren't even
authorized to joust in the SCA
SkyeDS: we did not participate in the full tilt joust with the
professionals jsut the games, and
SkyeDS: we shouldn't be trying to unhorse each other.
SkyeDS: NONE of which has any bearing on what I was trying to get
across.
evile: *shrug* that's your level of interest & as much risk as
you're willing to take for yourself and your animals, shouldn't mean
that you don't know what you're talking about.
SkyeDS: all I said in the first place was, hey, we were playing with
the big boys and they did this and I thought it would be damn useful.
SkyeDS: using an outside lane barrier just allows for droppage of
rein and horse not shying away from rail
SkyeDS: longer lance just means no pokey problems
evile: just because I don't jump out of planes doesn't mean I dont'
know how gravity works.
SkyeDS: neither of the above means we have to start using 16 feet of
oak and trying to knock each other down.
SkyeDS: exactly.
SkyeDS: although the Big Boys don't seem to have nearly the problems
the SCA says it does.
SkyeDS: they didn't even make us sign waivers when we got there.
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: granted, they're professionals.
SkyeDS: so their horses are bigger and better trained
SkyeDS: they had full armor
evile: yup. better insurance, too, probably :)
SkyeDS: but the SCA requires just about full armor anyway or ought to
evile: you would think.
SkyeDS: and while I think the horses tilting at each other should be
evenly matched in size
SkyeDS: I don't think that means they all have to be drafts or
warmbloods
SkyeDS: but they damn well should be trained
SkyeDS: and if they aren't trained what the fuck are you d oing
anyway?
SkyeDS: and it's easier to just put up a barrier so a horse has to
stay the course than it is to train a horse to stay on a rail with
nothing on the other side when you're being confrontational with
another horse at a full gallop
SkyeDS: I mean, like, DUH
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: the big horses the big boys have are more likely to stay on a
rail without an outside rail than the pleasure horses of the SCA
SkyeDS: and even they don't do that, must be a reason.
SkyeDS: I KNOW Sir Alexis and Duke Patrick Michael know this.
SkyeDS: the professionals spoke fondly and highly of them by name.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: matter of fact, I think it's this group of professionals (4
winds) that Alexis got the games from in the first damn place
evile: interesting :)
SkyeDS: oh well. when you post to a public forum you take the risk
that you're putting targets on breast and butt, so be it.
evile: yup...no matter how polite you are, there's always a chance
someone is going to blow a gasket over it.
SkyeDS: "this is a game. they're doing it for real."
SkyeDS: well, I'm thinking there's only so much you can do to make
something like a full tilt joust a game.
SkyeDS: just thinking of everything that got said on this subject at
GWar
evile: yup
SkyeDS: I will point out that at Eq College we were doing Mounted
Archery down an enclosed lane and dropping our reins (as you h ave to
with Archery), most of us at a full gallop
SkyeDS: so it only makes sense to do other games that way.
evile: *nod*
evile: anythin g that reduces risk would seem like a good idea...
SkyeDS: they don't have to be solid barriers either
SkyeDS: they can be breakaway
evile: no, just something visible to the animals.
SkyeDS: or solid on one side and breakway on the other
SkyeDS: the lane at EqC was breakaway on the interior towards the
target but the piperail enclosing the entire arena on the outside.
SkyeDS: thing is, if you're afraid your horse is going to shy
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and y ou think they might shy into a solid barrier and hurt
themselves
SkyeDS: then why are you jousting in the first fuckin place?
evile: yup
evile: Nobody *wants* to be hurt, I'm sure, but if they haven't faced
the possibility it's gonna happen, that's a serious mental issue.
SkyeDS: oh well, what's done is done, what's said is said, I can't
take it back, anymore than I can get feathers back into a pillow
evile: nope. You going to the Ravensloft gathering in Dallas this
weekend?
SkyeDS: would have liked to but I have things I absolutely have to do.
SkyeDS: training for one and mowing for the other if it's dry enough.
SkyeDS: and I'm fasting on Saturday. that will no doubt be easier
done at home.
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: think I will make a trip to wholefoods tonight. get some
more smoothies, orange juice, and invest in some meats.
SkyeDS: get some scallops on a stick, some marinated sirloin satays,
some pork stuffed with feta and spinach, some salmon and cilantro
burgers
evile: *nod* Poly dinner is there tonight; we might see you :)
SkyeDS: love my new grill
SkyeDS: is it?
SkyeDS: so does everyone get food downstairs and take it upstairs?
SkyeDS: I noticed there was a patio downstairs too
evile: yeah, but the upstairs one is near hte playscape, adn a lot of
people bring their kids.
SkyeDS: I'll ask sineater if he wants to
SkyeDS: he might not he is way behind on sleep
evile: *nod* I understand; I know that feeling pretty well these
days :P
SkyeDS: first movie that came was Dark Harbor, t hat was good. Last
night it was The Man who Cried
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: tonight it's Sense and Sensibility
evile: [Aunt L] loves that one.
SkyeDS: either this keeps getting harder or I keep making it harder
evile: "this" being?
SkyeDS: or maybe that's just what happens when I start working on
minute details
SkyeDS: I'm sorry...I'm writing the script out for the MC for faire.
SkyeDS: I refuse to even begin to think I've bitten off more than I
can chew.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: but I'm wishing I had theatrical training - outside of music.
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: I bet you're much better at this than I am.
evile: *shrug* probably not.
SkyeDS: I have the beginnings of an introduction. Could you beta it
for me, please?
evile: sure.
SkyeDS: mille grazie!!!
SkyeDS: Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! We are the Kumpania Peregrina,
and we bring to you our Dancing Horses. Allow me to introduce the
members of our Gypsy clan.

Bella Peregrina is the Elder Wise Woman. The white mare she rides is
Mirage. Mirage is an Egyptian Arabian. (Skye gallops Mirage up to
audience.)

Sighieri Peregrina is the Clan Chief. The black mare he rides is
Jezebel. Jezebel is a Gaited Morgan. (sineater gallops Jesse up to
audience.)

Arthur Pendragon is the tyrannomacaw rex of Clan MacAwe. (Arthur
spreads wings. If he's offered a treat he might speak into the
microphone.)

evile: cute!
SkyeDS: ((the names of the MC and Jesse's rider are always subject to
change of course depending on who's riding her.))
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I'm thinking that since Jubilee has voice training I'd rather
her be MC all t he time but I know she wants to ride ballet
eventually so
SkyeDS: I am NOT giving sonar0m a microphone.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: first Saturday night after closing we can test Debby and
Chris out on mic too
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: mc introduces themselves first, or last you think?
SkyeDS: I didn't use the romany terms Phuri Dai and Rom Baro because
we'd just have to define them anyway...
evile: *nod*...I think you could do the MC intro either way.
evile: & I don't see anything wrong with throwing in a few romany
terms, but probably more "__ that means "hello" in Romany." or
wahtever.
SkyeDS: I like thundering hooves of dancing horses
SkyeDS: it has a ring to it
evile: yup :)
evile: you could go with drumming hooves, just to keep it 'music'
related ?
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: we are pleased to bring to you OR we hope you enjoy - the
thunder of the drumming hooves of our dancing horses.
evile: we hope you enjoy :)
SkyeDS: at this point need to segue into the music
SkyeDS: and I'm not sure yet what music we're using.
SkyeDS: depends on whether the new stuff comes in or whether we use
something I've already got.
evile: now, that I know you'll choose perfectly :)
SkyeDS: I can use Peter Gabriel's Last Temptation of Christ for ME
SkyeDS: and got loads of Classical
SkyeDS: tain't period but what are these people going to know
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: this is obviously going to have to be revised right up until
I leave next Friday anyway right
evile: I'm sure you'll keep tweaking it ;)
SkyeDS: I think the ME music is a whole lot more exciting than t he
European
evile: *nod* better rhythm
SkyeDS: so do you start with little bangs and end with big ones?
evile: I would think.
SkyeDS: so in my opinion that would be start with the classical and
end with the ME
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: eventually the flamenco would go in there somewhere
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I don't really know where to put it until it gets here and I
hear it
SkyeDS: depends on whether it has more or less bang than the Saaidi
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and since I could only listen to 30 to 60 seconds online
that's really not enough to make a decision
SkyeDS: I bought some Flamenco because it is a fusion of Gypsy and ME
evile: nope. And a lot of times you can fade beginnings and endings
together if the beats are similar and make a smoother transition.
SkyeDS: I thought it would be appropriate.
evile: yup :)
SkyeDS: maybe, classical first, then ME then Flamenco (which is a
fusion)
evile: There was a flamenco dancer at the show Friday; Oliver
Rajamani's music complemented her dancing style relaly well.
SkyeDS: I want a flamenco dress
evile: they're pretty, aren't they? :)
SkyeDS: but I can't find t he style I want online anywhere
SkyeDS: not t hat it matters until I lose serious weight anyway
SkyeDS: I wonder should we waste words on explaining the music or not
SkyeDS: that's kind of hard to do right now since I don't know what
we're using just yet.
SkyeDS: I mean specifically.
evile: *nod* I don't think you need to explain the music, unless
someone asks after your show or something. It's hard to find a
balance between educating people and entertaining them, and just
burdening them with too much info to assimilate
SkyeDS: that's what I was thinkin
SkyeDS: I mean surely people can tell by listening - ok, that's
classical, that's arabian/middle eastern, that's gypsy/flamenco
SkyeDS: or whatever their schema for such things is
SkyeDS: if people want to know the names of the pieces and the
composers surely they'd ask afterwards?
evile: well...why do they need to know? when we saw the lippizaners
they didn't sit there and say "And this is George Gershwyn, bla
bla"...they just let the horses and riders do their thing.
SkyeDS: I'm already thinking it's going to be hard to cram three
pieces into 30 minutes.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: good point!
SkyeDS: I can't even remember details of who said what during the
lippizaner show
SkyeDS: I wasn't paying attention to anything else but the horses
SkyeDS: I already knew the music and knew what the moves were
evile: I imagine that a lot of your audience will be like that.
SkyeDS: I want to put something in t here to encourage them to clap,
and shout oompah and whatever else
evile: Maybe something like "When the Rom gather to celebrate, we say
___ and do ---- to show our appreciation of the
music/dancers/whatever"
SkyeDS: I can't remember what the other word is the dancers use
besides oompa
SkyeDS: it isn't huzzah
SkyeDS: or maybe it is
evile: (Opa, actually. It's Greek)
SkyeDS: it always sounds like it has an m in it
SkyeDS: especially the girls at Zorba's none of whom appear to be
Greek tho
SkyeDS: course most of the dancers I hear say it probably don't have
a clue either
evile: As far as I can tell, it's idiomatic, means more or less
what 'Hey!' does in English.
SkyeDS: Hey might work better than Huzzah
SkyeDS: since in early performances in Europe if they didn't have
musicians they had people sitting around chanting Hay Hay Hay Hay in
four four time
evile: The other expression is "Aiwa", which I think mostly
means "you go, girl!" if the music is loud. If the music is quiet, or
the dancer is doing something slow, it's the 'sssss!' sound, and then
there's the zagareet, which I can't do to save my life, which is
they "rock on lets party" noise.
SkyeDS: the ululation you mean?
SkyeDS: I can't do it either
evile: *nod*
evile: "Misto" is pretty accessible, Romany for " wonderful/way cool"
SkyeDS: I'm t hinking if they've already seen bellydancers they'll
probably have the Opa thing down already
evile: *nod*
evile: but since it's horse dancing not people dancing, they may not
know whether or not it's appropriate to say.
evile: If the MC isn't talkign during the entire performance, he/she
could lead the audience in clapping along to the music, yelling out
__ after a really cool trick, etc
SkyeDS: yep
SkyeDS: I put that in t here already
SkyeDS: everything that isn't spoken I'm putting in ()
evile: Other good, accessible Romany words/terms: Baksheesh! (Good
fortune) Sastimos! (good health), Nais Tuke! (Thank you)
SkyeDS: already used Sastimos, that's the greeting
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: at end of performance should encourage them to bring their
kids by the booth for rides
evile: yup!
SkyeDS: Ashen Devlesa
SkyeDS: is shorter than the longer Go with God in good health
evile: *nod*
evile: well, it's 4. Time to get gone. see ya later, maybe :)