evile

 

evile: TGIF!!!
SkyeDS: :)
evile: busy day for y'all :)
SkyeDS: hope to get this shit w Maria over w
SkyeDS: I wanted Kelly to have that stuff too :(
evile: *nods* that's been a real hassle. How's the new tenant?
SkyeDS: fine so far
evile: good.
SkyeDS: rent paid on time, paying installments of deposit on time
SkyeDS: Kelly likes them (very important)
evile: yeah.
evile: I am so very ready to go home & have another early night at
home
SkyeDS: nods
evile: And then Saturday's for shopping, cooking, and cleaning, and
Sunday's The Picnic..which should be interesting, at the very least.
SkyeDS: has she made up her mind whether she's well enough to come?
SkyeDS: sineater made it sound like she keeps changing it
evile: When I last talked with them on Tues, she was all gung ho
to 'brave' the journey. I tried my best to discourage her....I don't
want her making herself sick or hurting herself on my behalf, ya know?
evile: 1) I don't want to summon up all sorts of fake "Oh, you're so
great and wonderful for hurting yourself JUST to be here!"
2) I dont' want her hurting herself and then saying "Oh, it's all
that evil evilE's fault for demanding that I attend her stupid
picnic!"
evile: Given her histrionics, it could really go either way. And I
can also see her getting miffed if she shows up, doesn't get hurt or
sick in the process, and I *don't* fawn all over her praising her
bravery and martyrdom....
evile: I dont' care if she comes or not, but if she does, it's not
going to be the "Wonderful The Rubber Pig Drama Show"
SkyeDS: hope not
evile: If she shows up I'll be like "Hey, thanks for coming, meet my
friends, go swim" and that'll be about it.
evile: The really great thing about being hostess is that I can't
allow myself to be pinned down with any one person, and that its'
about ME. :P
SkyeDS: lol nods
evile: It's my party, these are my loved ones, and if you want to be
the Diva, go throw your own party.
SkyeDS: I suspect Hugh is going to have a bad afternoon
evile: ooh, yucko.
SkyeDS: and nothing I can do to shield him from it neither
evile: Well, if you need to go do damage control & run offline
unexpectedly, dont' worry 'bout it :P
SkyeDS: tc conf w problem child today
evile: ick.
SkyeDS: she'll bend my ear all day long but won't talk to Hugh long
enough about important things so he can do a good job
evile: ugh. Maybe you can just try and condense her blab down to the
main points, outline-style. :P
evile: You know...you and I are weirdos. We do and say some pretty
bizarre stuff sometimes...but when you examine our words & actions by
our own stated values, they are internally consistent. That is the
main problem I have with The Rubber Pig, I think. Her actions and words are
not consistent with her stated beliefs and values.
SkyeDS: I don't like people who are not at least internally consistent
evile: *nods*
evile: I can't even imagine all the health problems she brings on
herself by behaving so much against what she says she believes is
right.
evile: sineater said y'all were going to be at equestrian practice in
Elgin next weekend? I might want to see sineater & Jessie do their stuff
sometime.
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: it's a little north of elgin proper
SkyeDS: they are talking about starting at 10 and going till whenever
SkyeDS: bryn gwlad's course is not a full course tho
evile: every little bit of practice is helpful, though, I imagine..?
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: just so you know, it's not what competition looks like exactly
evile: aha.
evile: I probably dont' have the patience to watch a full
competition, anyway.
SkyeDS: the reeds don't have heads on them and the ring stands don't
have rings
evile: Ok....
evile: Ugh. I just got a baby shower invite. For people I dont' even
know. If I wouldnt' go to Knighthorse & Kulilinei's, there is NO way I"m going
to some strangers'.
SkyeDS: ick
evile: supposedly it turns into a 'real' party 11 pm, but I cant'
stay up that late since I have stuff to do Sunday a.m.
evile: Plus I'd feel like a heel to only show up for the 'real' party
and not do the gifty baby crappy party
SkyeDS: nods
evile: Oh well. Maybe they'll throw a real party soon & still invite
me even though I've turned them down for 2 baby shower parties
already..
evile: Oh, I gotta tell you, here's how bad Krav Maga is kicking my
ass: my arms hurt *juicing lemons* last night...pitiful!!
SkyeDS: but you like it :P
evile: On the expectation/hope that it will get better, yes. But for
now...owwwww!
SkyeDS: news sources can't seem to agree on whether that hostage is
still alive or not
evile: Sweetie likes the drudge report for stuff like that.
SkyeDS: I like Drudge
SkyeDS: sineater doesn't trust anything conservative
evile: I dont' read real news.
evile: the only TV station we get is FOX, so needless to say I don't
watch TV news either. I don't wanna know..it just makes me want to
kill/die...and I hate feeling like that. Just nuke the shit out of
everything, W, and get it over with....
SkyeDS: I still say if we'd nuked 9 countries and started drilling
oil over there, and asked the other 13 if they wanted the same...
SkyeDS: like, on 9/12
evile: yup.
evile: still no reply from Pat &/or his wife re: Sunday. I
guess "good friends" can be allowed to "drift apart" after all.
SkyeDS: :-/
evile: Put your money where your mouth is or shut the hell
up...that's all I want from people in this life.
evile: Then again, nobody seems to know how to RSVP anymore...so
maybe they'll show up anyway.
evile: I need to try & get to the library tomorrow, I'm out of stuff
to read at home.
SkyeDS: I haven't read anything new in a very long time
evile: That is my main addiction. I get antsy when I have no books to
read.
SkyeDS: lovely
SkyeDS: Hugh's daughter is about to have to go to the ER
SkyeDS: just what he needs
evile: oh no. poor thing!!
SkyeDS: got to meet his wife Joyce finally
SkyeDS: always nice to put a face to a voice
evile: cool :)
evile: Things getting any calmer over there?
SkyeDS: only because our doctor is truant
evile: Oh??
evile: NOt the child's ER dr, but a client. Nevermind. I think I got
it.
SkyeDS: this is going to cost her between 10 and 20K and she seems ot
have no interest in her own defense
SkyeDS: (the client)
evile: wow.. :(
evile: well, I'm going to go to the annex & get a copy of this weeks
Chronicle before I start my rounds, so I'm going to head that way.
SkyeDS: hugs
evile: Have a good time this weekend :)
evile: TGIF!!!
SkyeDS: :)
evile: busy day for y'all :)
SkyeDS: hope to get this shit w Maria over w
SkyeDS: I wanted Kelly to have that stuff too :(
evile: *nods* that's been a real hassle. How's the new tenant?
SkyeDS: fine so far
evile: good.
SkyeDS: rent paid on time, paying installments of deposit on time
SkyeDS: Kelly likes them (very important)
evile: yeah.
evile: I am so very ready to go home & have another early night at
home
SkyeDS: nods
evile: And then Saturday's for shopping, cooking, and cleaning, and
Sunday's The Picnic..which should be interesting, at the very least.
SkyeDS: has she made up her mind whether she's well enough to come?
SkyeDS: sineater made it sound like she keeps changing it
evile: When I last talked with them on Tues, she was all gung ho
to 'brave' the journey. I tried my best to discourage her....I don't
want her making herself sick or hurting herself on my behalf, ya know?
evile: 1) I don't want to summon up all sorts of fake "Oh, you're so
great and wonderful for hurting yourself JUST to be here!"
2) I dont' want her hurting herself and then saying "Oh, it's all
that evil evilE's fault for demanding that I attend her stupid
picnic!"
evile: Given her histrionics, it could really go either way. And I
can also see her getting miffed if she shows up, doesn't get hurt or
sick in the process, and I *don't* fawn all over her praising her
bravery and martyrdom....
evile: I dont' care if she comes or not, but if she does, it's not
going to be the "Wonderful The Rubber Pig Drama Show"
SkyeDS: hope not
evile: If she shows up I'll be like "Hey, thanks for coming, meet my
friends, go swim" and that'll be about it.
evile: The really great thing about being hostess is that I can't
allow myself to be pinned down with any one person, and that its'
about ME. :P
SkyeDS: lol nods
evile: It's my party, these are my loved ones, and if you want to be
the Diva, go throw your own party.
SkyeDS: I suspect Hugh is going to have a bad afternoon
evile: ooh, yucko.
SkyeDS: and nothing I can do to shield him from it neither
evile: Well, if you need to go do damage control & run offline
unexpectedly, dont' worry 'bout it :P
SkyeDS: tc conf w problem child today
evile: ick.
SkyeDS: she'll bend my ear all day long but won't talk to Hugh long
enough about important things so he can do a good job
evile: ugh. Maybe you can just try and condense her blab down to the
main points, outline-style. :P
evile: You know...you and I are weirdos. We do and say some pretty
bizarre stuff sometimes...but when you examine our words & actions by
our own stated values, they are internally consistent. That is the
main problem I have with The Rubber Pig, I think. Her actions and words are
not consistent with her stated beliefs and values.
SkyeDS: I don't like people who are not at least internally consistent
evile: *nods*
evile: I can't even imagine all the health problems she brings on
herself by behaving so much against what she says she believes is
right.
evile: sineater said y'all were going to be at equestrian practice in
Elgin next weekend? I might want to see sineater & Jessie do their stuff
sometime.
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: it's a little north of elgin proper
SkyeDS: they are talking about starting at 10 and going till whenever
SkyeDS: bryn gwlad's course is not a full course tho
evile: every little bit of practice is helpful, though, I imagine..?
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: just so you know, it's not what competition looks like exactly
evile: aha.
evile: I probably dont' have the patience to watch a full
competition, anyway.
SkyeDS: the reeds don't have heads on them and the ring stands don't
have rings
evile: Ok....
evile: Ugh. I just got a baby shower invite. For people I dont' even
know. If I wouldnt' go to Andre & Julie's, there is NO way I"m going
to some strangers'.
SkyeDS: ick
evile: supposedly it turns into a 'real' party 11 pm, but I cant'
stay up that late since I have stuff to do Sunday a.m.
evile: Plus I'd feel like a heel to only show up for the 'real' party
and not do the gifty baby crappy party
SkyeDS: nods
evile: Oh well. Maybe they'll throw a real party soon & still invite
me even though I've turned them down for 2 baby shower parties
already..
evile: Oh, I gotta tell you, here's how bad Krav Maga is kicking my
ass: my arms hurt *juicing lemons* last night...pitiful!!
SkyeDS: but you like it :P
evile: On the expectation/hope that it will get better, yes. But for
now...owwwww!
SkyeDS: news sources can't seem to agree on whether that hostage is
still alive or not
evile: Tom likes the drudge report for stuff like that.
SkyeDS: I like Drudge
SkyeDS: sineater doesn't trust anything conservative
evile: I dont' read real news.
evile: the only TV station we get is FOX, so needless to say I don't
watch TV news either. I don't wanna know..it just makes me want to
kill/die...and I hate feeling like that. Just nuke the shit out of
everything, W, and get it over with....
SkyeDS: I still say if we'd nuked 9 countries and started drilling
oil over there, and asked the other 13 if they wanted the same...
SkyeDS: like, on 9/12
evile: yup.
evile: still no reply from Pat &/or his wife re: Sunday. I
guess "good friends" can be allowed to "drift apart" after all.
SkyeDS: :-/
evile: Put your money where your mouth is or shut the hell
up...that's all I want from people in this life.
evile: Then again, nobody seems to know how to RSVP anymore...so
maybe they'll show up anyway.
evile: I need to try & get to the library tomorrow, I'm out of stuff
to read at home.
SkyeDS: I haven't read anything new in a very long time
evile: That is my main addiction. I get antsy when I have no books to
read.
SkyeDS: lovely
SkyeDS: Hugh's daughter is about to have to go to the ER
SkyeDS: just what he needs
evile: oh no. poor thing!!
SkyeDS: got to meet his wife Joyce finally
SkyeDS: always nice to put a face to a voice
evile: cool :)
evile: Things getting any calmer over there?
SkyeDS: only because our doctor is truant
evile: Oh??
evile: NOt the child's ER dr, but a client. Nevermind. I think I got
it.
SkyeDS: this is going to cost her between 10 and 20K and she seems ot
have no interest in her own defense
SkyeDS: (the client)
evile: wow.. :(
evile: well, I'm going to go to the annex & get a copy of this weeks
Chronicle before I start my rounds, so I'm going to head that way.
SkyeDS: hugs
evile: Have a good time this weekend :)
evile: TGIF!!!
SkyeDS: :)
evile: busy day for y'all :)
SkyeDS: hope to get this shit w Maria over w
SkyeDS: I wanted Kelly to have that stuff too :(
evile: *nods* that's been a real hassle. How's the new tenant?
SkyeDS: fine so far
evile: good.
SkyeDS: rent paid on time, paying installments of deposit on time
SkyeDS: Kelly likes them (very important)
evile: yeah.
evile: I am so very ready to go home & have another early night at
home
SkyeDS: nods
evile: And then Saturday's for shopping, cooking, and cleaning, and
Sunday's The Picnic..which should be interesting, at the very least.
SkyeDS: has she made up her mind whether she's well enough to come?
SkyeDS: sineater made it sound like she keeps changing it
evile: When I last talked with them on Tues, she was all gung ho
to 'brave' the journey. I tried my best to discourage her....I don't
want her making herself sick or hurting herself on my behalf, ya know?
evile: 1) I don't want to summon up all sorts of fake "Oh, you're so
great and wonderful for hurting yourself JUST to be here!"
2) I dont' want her hurting herself and then saying "Oh, it's all
that evil evilE's fault for demanding that I attend her stupid
picnic!"
evile: Given her histrionics, it could really go either way. And I
can also see her getting miffed if she shows up, doesn't get hurt or
sick in the process, and I *don't* fawn all over her praising her
bravery and martyrdom....
evile: I dont' care if she comes or not, but if she does, it's not
going to be the "Wonderful The Rubber Pig Drama Show"
SkyeDS: hope not
evile: If she shows up I'll be like "Hey, thanks for coming, meet my
friends, go swim" and that'll be about it.
evile: The really great thing about being hostess is that I can't
allow myself to be pinned down with any one person, and that its'
about ME. :P
SkyeDS: lol nods
evile: It's my party, these are my loved ones, and if you want to be
the Diva, go throw your own party.
SkyeDS: I suspect Hugh is going to have a bad afternoon
evile: ooh, yucko.
SkyeDS: and nothing I can do to shield him from it neither
evile: Well, if you need to go do damage control & run offline
unexpectedly, dont' worry 'bout it :P
SkyeDS: tc conf w problem child today
evile: ick.
SkyeDS: she'll bend my ear all day long but won't talk to Hugh long
enough about important things so he can do a good job
evile: ugh. Maybe you can just try and condense her blab down to the
main points, outline-style. :P
evile: You know...you and I are weirdos. We do and say some pretty
bizarre stuff sometimes...but when you examine our words & actions by
our own stated values, they are internally consistent. That is the
main problem I have with The Rubber Pig, I think. Her actions and words are
not consistent with her stated beliefs and values.
SkyeDS: I don't like people who are not at least internally consistent
evile: *nods*
evile: I can't even imagine all the health problems she brings on
herself by behaving so much against what she says she believes is
right.
evile: sineater said y'all were going to be at equestrian practice in
Elgin next weekend? I might want to see sineater & Jessie do their stuff
sometime.
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: it's a little north of elgin proper
SkyeDS: they are talking about starting at 10 and going till whenever
SkyeDS: bryn gwlad's course is not a full course tho
evile: every little bit of practice is helpful, though, I imagine..?
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: just so you know, it's not what competition looks like exactly
evile: aha.
evile: I probably dont' have the patience to watch a full
competition, anyway.
SkyeDS: the reeds don't have heads on them and the ring stands don't
have rings
evile: Ok....
evile: Ugh. I just got a baby shower invite. For people I dont' even
know. If I wouldnt' go to Andre & Julie's, there is NO way I"m going
to some strangers'.
SkyeDS: ick
evile: supposedly it turns into a 'real' party 11 pm, but I cant'
stay up that late since I have stuff to do Sunday a.m.
evile: Plus I'd feel like a heel to only show up for the 'real' party
and not do the gifty baby crappy party
SkyeDS: nods
evile: Oh well. Maybe they'll throw a real party soon & still invite
me even though I've turned them down for 2 baby shower parties
already..
evile: Oh, I gotta tell you, here's how bad Krav Maga is kicking my
ass: my arms hurt *juicing lemons* last night...pitiful!!
SkyeDS: but you like it :P
evile: On the expectation/hope that it will get better, yes. But for
now...owwwww!
SkyeDS: news sources can't seem to agree on whether that hostage is
still alive or not
evile: Tom likes the drudge report for stuff like that.
SkyeDS: I like Drudge
SkyeDS: sineater doesn't trust anything conservative
evile: I dont' read real news.
evile: the only TV station we get is FOX, so needless to say I don't
watch TV news either. I don't wanna know..it just makes me want to
kill/die...and I hate feeling like that. Just nuke the shit out of
everything, W, and get it over with....
SkyeDS: I still say if we'd nuked 9 countries and started drilling
oil over there, and asked the other 13 if they wanted the same...
SkyeDS: like, on 9/12
evile: yup.
evile: still no reply from Pat &/or his wife re: Sunday. I
guess "good friends" can be allowed to "drift apart" after all.
SkyeDS: :-/
evile: Put your money where your mouth is or shut the hell
up...that's all I want from people in this life.
evile: Then again, nobody seems to know how to RSVP anymore...so
maybe they'll show up anyway.
evile: I need to try & get to the library tomorrow, I'm out of stuff
to read at home.
SkyeDS: I haven't read anything new in a very long time
evile: That is my main addiction. I get antsy when I have no books to
read.
SkyeDS: lovely
SkyeDS: Hugh's daughter is about to have to go to the ER
SkyeDS: just what he needs
evile: oh no. poor thing!!
SkyeDS: got to meet his wife Joyce finally
SkyeDS: always nice to put a face to a voice
evile: cool :)
evile: Things getting any calmer over there?
SkyeDS: only because our doctor is truant
evile: Oh??
evile: NOt the child's ER dr, but a client. Nevermind. I think I got
it.
SkyeDS: this is going to cost her between 10 and 20K and she seems ot
have no interest in her own defense
SkyeDS: (the client)
evile: wow.. :(
evile: well, I'm going to go to the annex & get a copy of this weeks
Chronicle before I start my rounds, so I'm going to head that way.
SkyeDS: hugs
evile: Have a good time this weekend :)
SkeyDS: ty :) HUGS u2

• Jun. 17, 2004

   

  evile: Hey, turkeybutt!!
  Sineater: hey boogerhead :P
  
  evile: how's tricks?
  Sineater: busy
  
  evile: in a good way, I hope.
  Sineater: is there any way to make icq lite send on carriage return
  instead of having to hit the gooddamn send button every time????
  
  Sineater: not really... hanging in, overall
  evile: I think you have to clicky the send button. Sorry charlie.
  Sineater: well fuck.
  Sineater: how are you?
  evile: owie. You called last night just after I left for Krav Maga
  class. I'm taking it Mondays & Wednesdays. Its kicking my butt.
  evile: But in a good way...I think/hope.
  Sineater: that's good :)
  Sineater: now you can kill coworkers bare handed!
  evile: nah...not worth the jail time. But I am thinking I've been
  very lucky in that I've never been mugged or raped...and that
  eventually luck runs out. I will be ready when it happens...
  Sineater: nodnod. and krav maga is supposed to be pretty good shit,
  easy to do w/o having to be supergirl
  
  evile: yup. Even after 2 classes I feel like I could deal with
  something if it happened.
  evile: I don't know about 'easy'...they run us pretty ragged.
  evile: First class, I was sweating from my kneecaps. damndest
  thing...never sweated THERE before....
  Sineater: realtively speaking. vs say tae kwon do
  Sineater: really??
  Sineater: i sweat all over after a hard ride
  evile: Well, it's not so much 'this is how you stand and this is the
  proper breathing and bla bla' it's POUND THE SHIT OUT O FTHAT FUCKER!
  evile: I dont' usually do anything that makes me sweat. My preferred
  exercises are yoga, pilates, and swimming. Not alot of sweating.
  Sineater: oh
  evile: Anyhoo...I don't know how often you read LJ these days. I'm
  having a picnic Sunday at the park by our house & looks like so far
  Aunt L, Uncle B, Brother A's 'stepkids',Erin, Marca, Marca's kid, and Pace are
  coming :)
  Sineater: nodnod
  
  Sineater: we had planned to be in sugarland, but this may be more
  important
  evile: Well, I know you had prior plans & obligations. But if
  something falls through, or gets rescheduled, or whatever, keep it in
  the back of your mind,: 2pm Sunday :)
  evile: The Rubber Pig made noises like she was going to come up from SA...but
  if she's so dang puny she should not be making that kind of trip and
  risking hurting herself.
  Sineater: ahem. do we know for a fact that she a) had surgery and b)
  has serious back problems to begin with?
  Sineater: cause it's always a handy excuse, you know
  evile: I am pretty sure she actually had surgery on June 4. I am not
  sure how serious it was.
  evile: To me it struck me as her reading the list of all the possible
  things that could go wrong that the dr.s always give you to sign
  before a procedure. and deciding that those things WERE going to
  happen...if that makes sense.
  Sineater: really? because the alien mind control parasites always
  leave scars on the back of the neck, too
  evile: ugh.
  evile: I think alien mind control would be preferable to the current
  personality...
  Sineater: she sounds as though she may be as divorced from objective
  truth (or consensual reality) as Brother A can be sometimes, from what
  Skye_ds has been telling me
  evile: They are really quite adept at building castles in the clouds.
  Too bad that isn't really a marketable skill....
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: yeah, me too. I have no idea what to do or say in this
  situation...everything just gets wierder and wierder and worse and
  worse.
  Sineater: i am worried that now Brother A is involved with a person (or 2,
  assuming trey is as wacko) who will use him very very badly, and get
  him into serious trouble
  evile: I still can't get an answer from anyone about the dog.
  Sineater: like, say, a conspiracy to commit medical fraud! :)
  Sineater: aaaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!
  Sineater: we are willing to provide a safe haven for the dog if need
  be
  Sineater: i wonder; is Aunt L going to take the kids for the same
  reason?
  evile: Bless you for that :) I've passed it along to as many people
  as I can think of who will possibly be able to get the message into
  Brother A's pointy head.
  evile: Aunt L is taking the kids because The Rubber Pig's mom had originally
  said she would take them, but "the story" now is that The Rubber Pig's mom
  attempted suicide for the 14th time, and The Rubber Pig does not want the kids
  out in Blanco with a suicidal woman who may end up succeeding when
  it's just her and hte kids in the house.
  evile: The Rubber Pig isn't working, she's sick and in pain. Brother A isn't
  working,he's taking care of The Rubber Pig, and apparently can't watch the
  kids and take care of her at the same time.
  evile: And, of course, Trey is working.
  Sineater: sigh
  
  Sineater: so are they just going to be common-law bigamists then?
  evile: no, no, according to The Rubber Pig, they are Really Married. Because
  she is "obedient" to him.
  Sineater: uh yup...
  evile: Marriage license, property ownership, the commonlaws of TX,
  those mean nothing in her mind. It's whether or nto the woman is
  obedient to the man.
  Sineater: then why do they not just make it a d/s contract?
  evile: Because she wanted the dress and the ceremony, i guess...
  Sineater: i had this wierd idea that marriage was about commitment.
  silly me...
  Sineater: then why she not just get handfasted?
  Sineater: oh forgot. she's very jewish.
  evile: she is 'devoutly' Jewish, darling. handfasting is not what
  Jews do.
  Sineater: no, -marriage- is what jews do, and judaism has a quite
  strict definition of what a marriage is.
  evile: I really can't get my head into her reality...she goes on and
  on about how her faith is so important, and she's so devout, oy vey
  meshuguna, and then she pulls this fake internet minister garbage and
  says its Real.
  Sineater: internet minister?
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: the officiant said, "By the power vested in me by the magical
  internet, I now pronounce you..." I am NOT shitting you.
  Sineater: you know, i'm a pope. got a card right here that says so.
  evile: me too.
  evile: Now go get me some fetus stem cells, I'm hungry.
  Sineater: ohhhkay. so. not "internet church", like mail-order
  deaconship,
  Sineater: but church OF the internet, as in worship the internet????
  Sineater: yum yum!! that's a good one :)
  evile: 1) she and Trey have no Get.
  2) she and Brother A have no marriage license
  I have no idea what the offician'ts credentials are, but given 1 & 2
  as TRUE, Brother A and The Rubber Pig's 'marriage' MUST then be FALSE.
  evile: Is my logic flawed in some way, or is that the way you see it,
  also???
  Sineater: get?
  evile: Jewish religious divorce is called a Get.
  evile: Like the catholic religious divorce is called an annullment.
  Sineater: ah. i for get that one
  evile: heh
  Sineater: from the latin "anus"
  evile: *laff*
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: yup.
  Sineater: some people will argue that there is an "eyes of god"
  marriage, which requires no license, and really then no minister or
  ceremony either
  
  Sineater: however;
  Sineater: this is not recognized by the state. period. state says, no
  marriage, no license.
  evile: and there are children to be considered here...
  Sineater: this is also not recognized by the jewish religion,
  orthodox, reformed, messianic, or otherwise
  Sineater: unless you count some mystics who say the decision to have
  sex is marriage in the eyes of the lord
  Sineater: which means therefore divorces are very common, too...
  evile: Brother A says he just doesn't understand whyyyy Mom & [dad] don't
  take this seriously and keep asking him what is REALLLY going
  on...when the story changes every day...after all, don't all peoples
  lives change drastically evey single day...?
  Sineater: but no rabbi will do anything other than laugh at this. if
  you are lucky...
  evile: The Rubber Pig's rabbi refused to to the marriage in his church or
  allow any rabbi of his congregation to perform the ceremony.
  Sineater: you -always- have to keep asking what is going on with
  Brother A, even for the simplest things like what he had for lunch
  Sineater: well duh! no get, no marriage, period
  Sineater: oy gevalt.
  evile: If her religion is so important, if she obeys god first, daddy
  2nd and hubby 3rd, as she said, then WHY wasn't her rabbi's NO
  enough to stop her and Brother A DEAD
  evile: As a 'devoutly religious' (she said this several times on the
  phone Tues) the rabbi says No, that's it..right?
  Sineater: maybe she's waiting for god to say something.
  Sineater: though in judaism you can't really talk to god directly.
  prayer is all. god will talk to the rabbi if he feels like it, maybe.
  Sineater: kind of like, say, catholicism
  Sineater: if god is in a good mood he'll mention something to the
  pope, who might tell you, m,ight not
  evile: I just can't get it into my head that she & Brother A seem to
  believe several completely opposite things ALL AT ONCE
  Sineater: well.... that is called insanity.
  Sineater: and while that is really just a facile explanation
  tantamount to an off the cuff dismissal... well, there it is.
  evile: *sigh* I hear ya...
  Sineater: i can think that way sometimes, but it makes my head hurt.
  i found out a long time ago that "i am vast, i encompass
  contradictions" was really just not true. small contradictions yes,
  but not entirely conflicting beliefs. the mind will usually make some
  sort of explanation for itself.
  
  Sineater: sometimes it's just as simple as "i believe what i want to
  believe that will let me do what i want to do, and damned if i will
  tell anybody the truth, including myself"... but i don't think that
  is what's going on in Brother A's head
  Sineater: though it might very well be what's in The Rubber Pig's little skull
  evile: I have no idea....
  evile: It was wierd/creepy to hear her on one extention say something
  and then have him say it 2 seconds later...
  evile: well, it's about time for me to get ready to go...I need to
  make sangria, fed ex my dad's fathers day package, and that's about
  it. So I should mostly be home tonight.
  Sineater: nod, take care .will probably call
  evile: I get home from the bus stop around 5, so I'll be home from
  then on, mostly . Love ya!
  Sineater: :-)

 

evile: OMFG--Brother A & The Rubber Pig called me last night a few minutes after
10PM
SkyeDS: about what
SkyeDS: it should have been important to violate the 9 pm rule that
I'm sure we're all aware of.
evile: I had made them little pendants with small proof-photos and
glass nuggets.
evile: They were calling to thank me
evile: Proceeded to babble at me until almost 11,when I had to
interrupt and say it was past my bedtime and I had to get up for
work. Wierd that they were the rude ones but I ended up feeling rude
about interrupting htem....
evile: The Rubber Pig is certifiably nutso, BTw. In case you had any doubts at
all.
SkyeDS: none. Told sineater about the dog yesterday, he is not pleased.
SkyeDS: He thinks that you, [dad] and he need to have a "discussion"
with Brother A, although by both his account and yours I don't know what
that will accomplish if anything
evile: Aunt L says she *Specifically* asked Brother A about the dog
yesterday and Brother A said he was 'fine'.
evile: Oh, you'll enjoy this: According to her, a marriage license,
mutual property ownership, and calling one another 'husband'
and 'wife' are not what makes a real marriage. You are 'really'
married when you are obedient to your husband.
evile: oops, her being The Rubber Pig, not Aunt L.
SkyeDS: perhaps she misunderstands the word "obedient" because she
seems to mistake her being obedient to him and him being obedient to
her.
evile: I think it's called "topping from the bottom"
SkyeDS: that's a no no in that circle, as I'm sure you know
evile: ding ding ding. Pretty much wrong in any situation, far as I'm
concerned...
evile: The Rubber Pig is not at all interested in the concept of "law of the
land" dictating what marriage is, and REALLY not interested in the
idea that other people's spirituality and marriage vows may not
include the concept of a woman obeying a man.
SkyeDS: every time I think this can't get any more fucked up
evile: no shit, right?
evile: I could not get in a word edgewise to ask about Paulie. It was
VERY frustrating.
evile: She called Brother A a shmuck and I called her ass down on it, so
at least I got in one hit.
SkyeDS: I told sineater last night I was tempted, if they follow through
with suit, to contact the surgeon and volunteer to testify for him,
file an amicus brief, do whatever I can to help his case
evile: Oh, the deal with that is that apparently she's worked as a
jewelry model and there is now a scar on her neck which is
asymmetrical and may cost her modeling jobs. BSBSBSBS!
SkyeDS: the medical board would hopefully throw that out without so
much as an investigation
evile: (you *know* how much I *love* to hear people call my family
ugly names...no matter how much they may deserve it, no matter how
it may be 'kidding' or 'in fun'...I do not tolerate it)
SkyeDS: and I would hope a judge wouldn't allow that in because it
wouldn't stand up prima facie
evile: It's very crazy & stupid. I'd just be fucking grateful I could
walk and was not dead at this point, if the surgery was as serious as
they claim it was.
SkyeDS: I wonder if the only thing you could do besides wait for it
to all fall apart catastrophically
SkyeDS: is to kidnap him forcibly
evile: *sigh* I wish.
SkyeDS: which is what I'm sure [sineater's mom] would do with sineater, to have him
exorcised or whatever else, if she thought she could
evile: I'm sure. What a mess.
evile: Elaine actually called me this a.m. because she is worried
about Aunt L. Especially since Aunt L is in super-chirpy "everything's
just great!" mode. Which is ALWAYS trouble.
evile: another couple of things that bothered me about the phone call
last night: 1) The Rubber Pig thinks mom is going to come down and spend
most/all the summer with the kids. 2) The Rubber Pig thinks it's 'cute'
and 'sweet' that even with her bad back, when baby Yummy whines to be
picked up, Aunt L will pick her up and carry her around.
SkyeDS: maybe it would serve some purpose to have the family en masse
take batting practice...
SkyeDS: and you know I wouldn't say that lightly (having been a
target years ago).
evile: I'm not quite to the point where I think The Rubber Pig is worth the
jail time, but coming pretty damned close.
evile: The Rubber Pig and Brother A were blathering on about how wonderful life is
and such, when Brother A had, not 15 minutes before, told me they had
returned bunches of stuff to various stores for gas money and they
were going to Exxon when Trey got home from work for free hotdogs.
evile: (Im assuming the ones they toss out at shift change or
whatever)
SkyeDS: "wonderful" is subjective and we know they wear rose tint
evile: I am thinkign the pain meds were kicking pretty good at that
point...
evile: Which doesn't explain Brother A's rosy view, but maybe as long as
his wick stays dipped, everything else is roses & gravy.
evile: Oh, she's also going to try and make it up on Sunday. I guess
so I can congratulate her on what a brave little martyr she is for
making that long trip at the risk of her health & recovery... UGH.
evile: Dammit, doing more than you're supposed to when you're sick is
NOT 'brave' or 'good' it's STUPID and just going to make you sicker.
What about this do people NOT understand?!?
SkyeDS: I'm trying to figure out how to go shopping on Saturday July
3d and camp overnight too, I didn't think about that yesterday
evile: Oh..well, like I said, if you get a better offer, don't fret .
Sweetie's got a VW campout that weekend and I could go to that if you & I
don't get together that saturday.
SkyeDS: could we go shopping Friday after work, or on Sunday?
SkyeDS: actually, I need to call and see if I can even get a space
there first before I rearrange anything
evile: Sunday is the 4th...Hellish Villagers of the Damned at Elaines.
SkyeDS: that's right :(
evile: Yeah, see if you can reserve camping space that weekend first,
and I'll be your backup plan :)
SkyeDS: wow, all 10 eq sites are still open for Sat night
evile: excellent! :)
SkyeDS: but like half the park is already booked otherwise
evile: not surprising. that's a big weekend.
SkyeDS: would you like to have dinner friday after work, go get
something to drink?
evile: Friday July 2, or another friday?
SkyeDS: actually any Friday is fine with me
SkyeDS: except of course that there are three Fridays in July where I
won't be in town
evile: I know that a lot of your Fridays are usually spent headed out
towards your weekend events.
evile: How about July 2, then, for sure.
evile: Summerville doesn't look like a super-long drive like some of
the other places y'all have gone for SCA. Maybe 2 hours' drive or so?
SkyeDS: my Mexican cotton chemise with red embroidery came yesterday,
smelling like roses
evile: nice :)
SkyeDS: bout an hour from home, maybe
SkyeDS: between home and Houston
SkyeDS: and everybody I know who's been there loves it
evile: that's not too bad, so you could drive out Saturday a.m. and
not be too beat when you got out there
evile: plus still have plenty of daylight to play in
SkyeDS: their internet system doesn't seem to work, so I guess I'll
call after all
evile: a lot of state sites are squirrely like that.
evile: ya know, I'm not married and I could give a shit, but if The Rubber Pig
starts spouting that 'real marriage is obedience' garbage in front of
you & sineater, I won't be surprised if she gets a knuckle sandwich.
evile: I mean, really, how hypocritical is it for her to be handing
down The Law from On High about what is marriage? Whatever works for
her, fine. but don't you dare start telling other people how to be
married or that they aren't married because they don't fit your
standards.
SkyeDS: I think she's going to have problems with the whole
definition of marriage thing when she tells most people that she
doesn't have a marriage license or a divorce
SkyeDS: that means she can't even be common law married
SkyeDS: (lack of divorce that is)
evile: I can't even force my brain into The Rubber Pig-think mode...there is
no way to approach her mindset that helps me understand why she
thinks the way she does.
evile: I can respect the statement "To me we are married because we
have pledged our love to one another"...I can NOT respect the
statement "to me, nobody is married unless they conform to my ideas
of marriage"
SkyeDS: how could anyone say that with a straight face
evile: Nor can I respect the statement "I dont' care what the law
says, its what I say "
SkyeDS: she says those things? out loud?
evile: indeed.
SkyeDS: well we know what perspective I have
SkyeDS: as skewed to the norm as possibly humanly possible
SkyeDS: I belong to numerous groups of weirdos
SkyeDS: who all think I am weird
evile: It took me about an hour to calm down enough to get to sleep &
I woke up with a splitting headache this a.m. after hideous
nightmares. My brain does NOT like dealing with her brand of TEH KR4ZY
SkyeDS: but you have to learn to keep your weirdness to yourself
sometimes
SkyeDS: and not flaunt it or be in faces about it
evile: And, far as I know, you pretty much live by "YKIOK" and would
never presume to tell someone else they were or were not married, or
what have you.
SkyeDS: it isn't that I'm not capable of being judgmental, it's just
when I am, I don't say it out loud
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: I did make the judgment call to tell Karen & Randy that I
have an open marriage
SkyeDS: because I wanted them to understand that sonar0m and I are not
stepping out behind sineater's back
evile: *nods*
SkyeDS: I am told that our relationship is obvious, even though we
keep it as toned down as possible in front of mixed audiences
SkyeDS: with that in mind, it's important for other people not to
make incorrect assumptions
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and I decided it was ok to be pagan because half the group is
pagan
SkyeDS: but I don't talk religion, politics or marriage in front of
these people
evile: *nods*
SkyeDS: well...once, it was all pagans at our particular feast table,
so of course we had religious humor all over the place...but that
wasn't a mixed audience
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: July and August are like the two worst months to visit texas
SkyeDS: poor Kathy & Greg
evile: Greg's not coming.
evile: The Rubber Pig said something about thinking Greg doesn't like her, and
Aunt L apparently tried to soft-pedal it..but I went ahead and told her
the truth...which I am 90% sure she didn't even hear....
evile: The Rubber Pig: "[dad] doesn't like me, Aunt L says bla bla, but I think
he doesn't like me"
Me: "nope"
evile: I think I was supposed to tell her "Oh NO, we all LOVE you and
think you're WONDERFUL"....but that's me...no blowing smoke up
peoples orifices for no good reason...
SkyeDS: I don't understand Aunt L's perspective in all this truthfully
evile: "that's what family does" does not seem to quite cover it, no?
SkyeDS: it doesn't cover soft pedaling re [dad]'s feelings
SkyeDS: I don't understand what that accomplishes
evile: Oh, well...I guess Aunt L felt she needed to shelter The Rubber Pig's
little feelings.
evile: Perhaps feeling that if The Rubber Pig felt Brother A's family was agianst
her, she would take it out on Brother A?
SkyeDS: ok, well, some day the truth will out
SkyeDS: not like [dad] hides his feelings
SkyeDS: so then what
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: more damage
evile: But maybe by that time, Brother A will have done some thinking and
be ready to leave, anyway ?
SkyeDS: maybe there is merit in tying him up and kidnapping him
evile: heh. I wish.
evile: Unfo, he's a grownup and presumably sane...so nothing to do
but stand around until things blow up.
SkyeDS: I hate that
evile: me too.
evile: On the plus side, trying very hard to put a good spin on
things, she has been encouraging him to quit smoking cigarettes &
other stuff. according to her, he's not smoked the other stuff since
they officially became a couple in January.
SkyeDS: that is good
evile: so, really, ti's not all bad. Just ...wierd & incomprehensible.
SkyeDS: sineater agreed that every night it's like, ok, how is it more
fucked up now, how could it possibly be? but WAIT
evile: *sigh* I can't even get my head around most of this
stuff...it's trying to believe that Up is Down.
evile: And Brother A just doesn't understand why Mom & [dad] won't act like
the marriage is real and keep asking "what's really going on?"
SkyeDS: lol
evile: Kinda hard to take things seriously when Brother A & The Rubber Pig call up
every day with some new story or some new drama. Today Paulie is out,
tomorrow he's back, Trey sleeps on the couch, oh, no, he's spending
most of his time at someone else's, bla bla bla.
evile: The Rubber Pig apparently treats Trey like crap. I've only seen them
interact at the NYE party & the 'wedding'--she just ignored him as
far as I could see. But at Yummy's bday party apparently she was just
ragging him endlessly about everything. So sad I was in Montana &
missed that.
SkyeDS: gotta wonder what the hell is going through HIS mind
evile: I don't see how Brother A can't see that eventually he will be in
Trey's place, if the pattern continues...
evile: sort of the rule of the cheating spouse, in a way. If s/he
cheated on spouse #1 for YOU, what makes you think s/he won't cheat
on YOU for th future #3?
evile: And, as I said, she's already starting with the verbal
abuse, 'affectionately' calling him a "shmuck"
SkyeDS: he isn't good with patterns
SkyeDS: (neither is sineater for that matter)
evile: seems very simple cause=>effect to me...
SkyeDS: aye
evile: *sigh* oh well, subjectivity is hard when you're on a big ol'
rollercoaster like Brother A is.

2285Re: icq w/A

 

evile: happy thoughts happy thoughts...nice hot bath & nap after
work, good class tonight, starting the sangria tomorrow. Nice happy
thoughts.
SkyeDS: nods
evile: and it's hump day :P
evile: July 2 is a bellydance show at Casa de Luz, It doesn't start
till 8PM though, so you might not want to stay in Austin that late if
you want to get an early-ish start July 3
SkyeDS: they say checkin isn't till 2 pm
SkyeDS: but if there isn't already someone in my space I can check in
early
evile: so you don't have to get up too early, then, if you don't want
to :)
SkyeDS: this point no tellin what I"ll be feelin up to by then either
evile: true enough.
evile: J-Law & I are so mean. she gave me a new little brit
catchphrase "acting the rubber pig" i.e., not working,
malfunctioning, acting in a way that is stupid or doesn't make
sense...

evile: And guess who's new nickname is "Rubber Pig"? ;P
SkyeDS: lol
evile: We are going to the hot place. At least we have a good sangria
recipe to keep cool down there :)
evile: oh crap...I just realized I sent [dad] a father's day pkg but
haven't mailed my bio dad's yet...I have to fed-ex. Tomorrow I
guess...no way to take it there tonight AND get ready for class...
SkyeDS: so email/call and apologize for it being late
evile: I may do that.
evile: then again, fed ex may be able to deliver by Saturday so I'd
be on time :P
evile: I can never find a card that quite encompasses the father-
daughter bond we share..."Happy Father's day from your worst
mistake"...nope, Hallmark doesn't make.
SkyeDS: lol shoebox cards
evile: haven't found the perfect one yet. So I settle for generic &
non-mushy as much as possible.
evile: "Bet you wish you'd settled for a blowjob"...nope.
SkyeDS: lol
evile: "I'm still REALLY fucking sorry I wasn't a boy--sorry that Y
sperm didn't win the race...."
SkyeDS: you should write shoebox cards :P
evile: I'm too mean. I can't even express how grateful I am that
[dad]'s never treated me like an unwanted mistake he's ashamed of...
evile: Supposedly there's software that lets you design cards. Maybe
that's the way I should go for Fathers day next year.
SkyeDS: nods
evile: coming into the home stretch....I would not even be here today
if I had not had to bring a dessert for the coworker luncheon thingy.
SkyeDS: I didn't sleep well so I took a nap this morning before
coming in
evile: good idea.
evile: I wish we had more flexibility as far as scheduling our work
days. Would make mornings like this one a bit better.
SkyeDS: tis time
SkyeDS: /me hugs
evile: Okeydoke. Take care o' you :)
SkyeDS: you too! wind to your wings, bella
SkyeDS: <heads to nuke lunch

 

evilE  wrote:

whaddya think?

Talk to me. I feel like I've done something wrong
when you don't bother to email me... I know it's stupid
andbin my own head/my own problem, but there it is.

I'd like to hear from you.


--- sineater  wrote:
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:40:33 -0500

Subject: Re: did you see the wedding photos?

Yes I did, thank you, sorry for not replying sooner. Brother A looks
happy. That's the most important part. :) Thank you for taking pics.
Brother A and I are playing phone tag now, fun. You didn';t do anything
wrong. We were out of town in um... Canton it was for Steppes
Warlord. We finally buttonholed the marshals to get us authorized for
equestrian games, Jessie and I qualified for intermediate. (Since I
could not safely spear the pig then whip my hand around at a gallop
without breaking my wrist.) So we couldn't have been reached either.
Which sucks... but, this was pretty unexpected all around. I'm sorry
K/mom didn't get a chance to be there though. Tried to call earlier,
will try again tomorrow... also will fire up ICQ Windows Crasher
Deluxe and say hi tomorrow

 

me to J-Law:

My cell has no signal at work today & we just got a
memo about personal calls on the work phone...so I
can't call you.

Haven't heard from you & I'm worried. Did you really
stay in NY?!??
====
J-Law
Shit! Sorry about that!!! I made it home safe and
sound Monday night/Tuesday morning - slept pretty
much all day yesterday, and I have been buried in
work from the moment I got in.

Bit hellish on the way back. I was supremely
hungover from a Sunday night bacchanal, and then I
had some mishegoss getting home - Supershuttle
(henceforth to be known as Supershittle) refused to
pick me up, so I had to hire a car service from the
airport.

So - obviously, apart from picking up Pepper,
Tuesday was all about sleep & relaxing.

I did read your emails - just haven't gotten a
chance to reply. Will do so very very soon.

*hugs*

-J
========================
me:

I'm glad you're alive! Sorry you are so busy--I KNEW
you would be after taking time off work...but OK. I
will hang tight until you get a mo' to ponder my
all-important Life Quandaries. (yeah, work, what's
that? :P)

I have pretty much decided:

1) Pat is a prick and he can kiss my ass. I tried my
best to include him & Sonya in my life after they got
together, and they couldn't be bothered, unless Sonya
was having a "sell crap to your friends 'party'" So I
gave up. And as far as I'm concerned a half-ass note 8
days after my bday is not going to fix anything and if
anything demonstrates how little he really cares about
making any efforts towards real friendship again.

2) The Rubber Pig pulled this last minute wedding stunt to
'test' peoples 'loyalty' or 'dedication' or something
like that.

Still pissed off, exhausted, and bug-bitten, but no
longer dehydrated from the weekend. And that's about
it.

Love ya!!

 

SkyeDS: hola
evile: hi!
evile: how was your weekend?
SkyeDS: twas most wonderful
SkyeDS: sineater is now competing at Intermediate Level, and a blast was
had by all in general
evile: my yahoo email has been screwy --did you get my email with
Brother A's wedding photos?
SkyeDS: Maria was out this morning and left the place spotless
despite the fact that I already told her no deposit back (she had to
be fucking kidding me)
SkyeDS: got an email, DLing now
SkyeDS: what happened there anyway
evile: I'm glad there wasn't any more drama with the tenant, then...
evile: Apparently the story is that The Rubber Pig is having surgery on Friday
and wanted to have a wedding ceremony while she was still able to
stand up & didn't have scars...whatever.
SkyeDS: so you found out in enough to go no?
evile: not by much...but I went.
SkyeDS: so we have a new sister.
evile: call her whatever you want...
SkyeDS: was the ex there? how did it go?
evile: The ex was not only THERe, he ws in charge of the music and
taking the photos...
evile: She had borrowed a wedding dress from her MOH, so she was
actually dressed the part. The ceremony was printed out on multiple
sheets of paper, took about an hour to read/repeat....we were MELTING
into puddles.
evile: The Rubber Pig's mom was a rude-ass bitch to all of Brother A's family
members who were present. (like it's our fault this is happening??
WTF!)
evile: Oh, and apparently the wedding took place in the SAME place
where she married TREY. is that wierd? seems wierd to me...
evile: I have no idea of the etiquette involved in such a situation,
so I tried to just keep quiet and out of the way.
SkyeDS: <blinks several times and wrinkles brow
evile: *shrug* me, too, babe.
SkyeDS: I don't know anything about etiquette (which goes without
saying) but that is just common sense weird/wrong, getting married in
the same place.
SkyeDS: I mean, unless it was your church where you've been attending
for x amount of time
SkyeDS: but it wasn't their church I didn't think.
evile: no, it was outdoors at the sunken gardens
SkyeDS: oh well, it was weird from start to finish
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: sineater hasn't said anything about it yet. We came home to a
msg on the machine of course.
SkyeDS: I can't imagine when I ask him he's going to be very happy.
evile: Well, what the fuck. If our weekend had gone even remotely as
planned, we would not have been available to attend the wedding,
either.
SkyeDS: that's right
SkyeDS: you found out in enough time to cancel plans I take it?
SkyeDS: or did they get cancelled prior...
evile: No. Our weekend camping tirp sucked shit and we came home
early.
SkyeDS: I'm sorry :(
evile: enh. Nobody knew that Indian Springs would be such a malaria-
hole.
evile: And nobody knew the vanagon would overheat every 30 minutes
for 300 miles.
SkyeDS: where is Indian Springs? :(
evile: It was just one of those little foretastes of Hell that happen
every now and again for no apparent reason.
evile: Indian Springs is in Krughe (??) TX up near Beaumont. Shit
Hole.
evile: Kreutze? I dont know. Some German sounding crap hole.
SkyeDS: ok. Closest I've been then is Vidor for Phyl's funeral.
evile: No indians. no springs. Nothing but mosquitoes and chiggers
SkyeDS: I couldn't have had a cheaper camping experience if I had
been camping on my own and not at an event
SkyeDS: we didn't go Friday of course but we could have
evile: That's cool.
SkyeDS: so it was $12 for Fri, Sat, Sun, electricity, water, very
nice bathhouses with hot/cold showers
evile: nice.
SkyeDS: no telling how many hundreds of people there
SkyeDS: vendors
SkyeDS: CRW is HFS biggest event of the year and it falls short of
every SCA event I've been to so far
SkyeDS: matter of fact I"m not even sure I want to go to CRW now
SkyeDS: except Ben McCullough sounds like a cool park, so if I have
the money <shrug>
evile: yeah.
evile: If I was feeling malicious, I'd tell HFS that Indian Springs
is great & they should have their next CRW there! (the web site
makes it look very nice and the price is super cheap)
SkyeDS: lol
SkyeDS: I was trying to get sleep friday to get up and drive in the
wee hours of the morning on Saturday
SkyeDS: and Rita called me to talk about CRW, at like past 10 pm and
talked until 6 am.
evile: http://www.indianspringscamp.net/
SkyeDS: I should really learn to be more assertive :(
evile: Nice of her :(
SkyeDS: and then apparently I didn't agree with her about the
politics in language she understood, so she got riled and started
yelling at me, which then got her husband mad and yelling in the
background, and told me of the 25 people she pitched her proposal to,
I was the most difficult to communicate with.
evile: What a nut.
SkyeDS: <shrug>
SkyeDS: $15 to camp and for feast is not bad
SkyeDS: ben mccullough sounds and looks real nice
SkyeDS: and it's close to the salt lick
evile: I wasn't even aware that you were involved in planning or
executing anything for CRW, so why did she need to discuss so many
details with you?
SkyeDS: I'm not.
SkyeDS: she wanted my personal opinion, that's all
evile: sounds like she needs a new prescription to me.
SkyeDS: and I told her, well, my personal opinion isn't worth much
SkyeDS: most of what you're talking about involves the rules for
fighting
SkyeDS: and I haven't fought since 1992.
SkyeDS: and don't care.
evile: bizarre woman.
SkyeDS: her proposal sounds good, as far as it goes, and I wished her
well, and told her she of course was opening herself up for attack
from the fearsome four.
SkyeDS: and that it didn't touch at all the greater problems of
unification outside of fighting
SkyeDS: which is money
SkyeDS: and I told sonar0m, look
SkyeDS: you can compete on my horses in equestrian without spending
money on weapons at all
SkyeDS: because those are all provided
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: and you could fight rapier rather than heavy, and fight with
live steel, for cheaper
SkyeDS: they have rapier, and heavy
SkyeDS: and heavy involves the full armor and rattan swords and full
shields
SkyeDS: expensive.
SkyeDS: our shire has loaner stuff, until he gets to the point where
he *should* invest in his own.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: and I think, that rapier would be closer to what he's already
accustomed to anyway, and better s uited for his size
SkyeDS: but Randy is a big shark in the SCA pond, and I said you
ought to just take his advice.
SkyeDS: I just feel guilty that he's quitting HFS, which he loved, on
my account.
evile: *shrug* as you said, all his HFS friends have moved elsewhere,
and if he's having more fun and making new friends elsewhere, that's
just life...
SkyeDS: he says he likes the SCA better, but I still have this niggle
that bothers me that his problems with his parents and leaving the
HFS for the SCA is all my fault.
evile: So dump him and see how quickly his life becomes perfect.
evile: NOT!
SkyeDS: perfectly logical point, I know.
SkyeDS: tis after 4 btw.
SkyeDS: <bad, didn't get here till 3:30
evile: I know. I ran a little late this a.m. but I should go ahead
and walk my papers around.
SkyeDS: I still haven't decided if my trip will be a Saturday day
trip or a Saturday overnight trip but you're still invited regardless
SkyeDS: after last weekend I can't imagine you're in a hurry to go
back to a lake or whatever again.
evile: I've got a family obligation at the crack on Sunday
SkyeDS: yuck - although forgive me, but better you than me.
evile: And I am covered in chigger bites from the waist down so...not
too eager to get out to Nature again anytime soon....
SkyeDS: nay nor would I be in your shoes
SkyeDS: <hugs>
evile: Maybe y'all can come out to Poly 1st wednesday or we can go to
the bellydance show Friday evening...I'd like to see you in RL at
some point.
evile: anyhoo, I'm gettin' gone. email me and let me know what you
think of the wedding photos :)
evile: *hugs*
SkyeDS: will do, wind to your wings, bella :)

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So...met The Rubber Pig's mother & her boyfriend, and The Rubber Pig's father, and
The Rubber Pig's kids (they were actually VERY sweet, and admired the necklace
I was wearing, which is one that J-Law made for me a long time ago-the
one with the silver moon charm & the big beads interspersed with
bugles & E beads, in shades of blue, green, silver & amber)

ANYWAY, we get there and The Rubber Pig's mom walks over to Aunt L and
says "you're the aunt?" in this sort of monotone. Acted very
unthrilled to meet [brother A]'s family and I'm all like "Hey, lady, don't
give us a bunch of 'tude because your fuckin' daugher's a sKANK! This
outdoor wedding in 90 degree humidity was NOT our idea!" (not out
loud of course)

The Rubber Pig's mom also shared with Aunt L that the Sunken Gardens have really
gone downhill since The Rubber Pig married Trey there -- years ago!!! HOW
FUCKING SICK IS THAT!!?!? They got married at the same place as her
first wedding to her first husband (who was there and did the music
[a cd played on a notebook computer] and took photos, BTW)

Apparently there is no marriage license. There may not even be a
divorce. There is no 'get'--the Jewish religious divorce (Trey acted
like he'd never heard of it when Aunt L asked mock-humorously about
it).

So...wtf was this all about?? They aren't really married, she's still
on Trey's insurance (she is going in for some high drama back surgery
on Friday ) so...WTF.

The ceremony was very sweet, however. [brother A] gave each of the girls a
ring (on a ribbon around their necks) and told them he was ready for
the honor and responsibility of being their father. And then of
course [brother A] and The Rubber Pig exchanged rings and did pretty traditional
sounding vows (even the 'forsaking all others' part!)

So...whatever. [brother A] was glad I went, I guess, and I am glad I was
there. But...still feeling kind of wierd about the whole thing. Like,
what are they hiding, where are all the lies here, etc.

I am also wondering if this was some kind of game to see how many
people they could get on short notice, some kind of test of loyalty
or to see how much she was loved or something--she thanked me for
coming when I congratulated her afterwards & said something like "I
wasn't sure if you would come, I wasn't sure if anyone would
come"...so maybe this was just another bizarro game.

 

evile: greets! How was your weekend?
SkyeDS: boring but peaceful, glad you had a good time at the lake :)
evile: It was excellent. i was one of the few females out
there..which was odd, but not creepy.
evile: Saturday was good, too. Sweetie loved the trainride & movie.
SkyeDS: awesome :)
evile: *and* I went to REI and found a sports bra that fit & allowed
me to breathe :) So, a very productive weekend.
SkyeDS: that rocks.
evile: They only had 1 in my size or I would have bought more. But
now that I know the brand & size I can probably find more online.
SkyeDS: yep
evile: I may end up making Hippie Hollow one of my regular hangouts
(no pun intended)--it was gorgeous.
SkyeDS: fax.
evile: aha :)
evile: I talked to my mom yesterday on the phone--she's really
excited about me & [sister H] visiting. We might have to 'work' while
we're there--some friends are moving their cattle to the summer
fields & they may need extra hands to ride horses & help herd the
animals :)
evile: <===SO PSYCHED!!!!
SkyeDS: that would be very cool
SkyeDS: the one place you never want to ride is "heal" - that would
be behind. Dust.
evile: Yup. I've read about trips where you *pay* to do that. Which
seems pretty crazy to me. I figure it's a win-win just the way it is:
[sister H] & I get to ride, the ranchers get some help.
evile: *shrug* Dust washes off. I don't care:) It'll be fun, a new
experience. If I'm in the dust, I'll have to remember to NOT wear
contacts, is all.
SkyeDS: if you have an experienced cowhorse you won't have to do much
of anything at all but stay in the saddle.
evile: Sounds like my speed :)
SkyeDS: I wasn't thinking about on your clothes, I twas thinking
about in your nose, throat, lungs and eyes.
evile: I'm taking a bandanna or 2.
evile: Maybe I'll pack some eye drops too. :)
evile: Mom's so excited. AND Uncle Bubba has apparently pulled his
head out of his ass and is once again in contact with her & being
nice.
SkyeDS: that's good.
SkyeDS: my parentals and gramma are coming to visit for three days,
in two weeks.
evile: She called The Rubber Pig's youngest "My little
granddaughter"...hearing her so happy about family is motivating me
to do whatever I can to be at peace with The Rubber Pig & Bubba,too.
evile: Your folks visiting for memorial day weekend?
SkyeDS: no, weekend before. we're going to steppes warlord in Dallas
MD weekend
evile: Oh, ok. duh. Cool :) 3 days is just long enough, I think :)
SkyeDS: you know what they say about guests, fish & three days.
SkyeDS: I told sonar0m given their bad behavior at Xmas I thought, not
for their sake, but for his and mine, that we should trade his days
out
evile: heh
evile: Whatever keeps the peace & doesn't hurt anybody is good.
SkyeDS: makes my life damned inconvenient, considering that we have a
monday night commitment that I'll have to pick him up for on the way
home from work, but c'est la vie
evile: yeah...
SkyeDS: have to pick him up Monday night and take him back to first
day of class tuesday. is why it's not convenient as it could be.
evile: Oh well. It's not impossible, just inconvenient.
evile: Too bad he doesn't have anyone else in town to shlep or hang
with...
SkyeDS: he has friends he hangs out with on campus but I don't think
he sees them off campus.
SkyeDS: Aeris is off on Slaughter somewhere
SkyeDS: Travis is in Dallas
SkyeDS: and, I suspect one reason he doesn't already have a group to
hang out with, is because his parents have never approved of a single
friend he's ever cultivated.
evile: Aeris is not very reliable, even if he did have transpo &
crash space for sonar0m...
evile: (or at least that's the impression I've gotten ..)
SkyeDS: sonar0m is going to learn to use the buses this summer. It
will be good for him.
evile: definitely.
SkyeDS: kaleon keeps msging me out of the blue
SkyeDS: to tell me how happy he is
SkyeDS: let me know I'm forgiven for beingn an awful person
evile: How nice for him.
SkyeDS: and keep dropping little remidners of why I was so awful
SkyeDS: and when I made a tactful request (perhaps too tactful) for
an apology for his bad behavior, I got none.
SkyeDS: I don't know what the hell kind of friendship he thinks that
is.
evile: Sounds like a date I went on once--the guy talked nonstop
about his ex and what terrible things she'd done to him, ending each
tale with "But I'm over her now"...Needless to say, I did not go out
with him again.
SkyeDS: I get so tempted to write him a heartfelt letter that
includes, look, you treated me like shit, and I want an apology. A
genuine apology. Not one that has "but" anywhere in it, and not one
that flinngs mud at me.
SkyeDS: And, includes, look. I drove 9 times a year, 4 years
running, 7.5 hours ONE WAY, to visit you.
SkyeDS: so why the hell can't you mannage to visit Rockdale every now
and again
evile: If you really want to put that much trouble into beating your
head against a brick wall....
SkyeDS: and don't give me bullshit about your car, it takes you to
work and it takes you to your hangouts
SkyeDS: that's why I don't send it
SkyeDS: I know so many people who are genuinely friends or friendly
with exes
evile: heh. I don't drive Sweetie's cars out of town. So...maybe I can
see that excuse as more heartfelt than you do...
SkyeDS: they behave so maturely around one another
SkyeDS: but I have these hard feelings that he keeps exasperating and
this isn't friendship
evile: kaleon is a drama ADDICT, darling. He won't be happy for long,
he'll have to get into some mess again soon in order to feed his
jones.
evile: If you won't do him the courtesy of giving him something to
angst about, he'll have to go find it somewhere else...
SkyeDS: wonder what would happen if I were bluntly honest adn told
him, look, I want to be friends, but not on your terms, because in my
book, friends don't act that way.
evile: You'd be giving him the drama he wants.
SkyeDS: I don't want him to go away mad, I think, I just want him to
go away.
SkyeDS: I could accomplish the same thing just blocking him on
trillian
evile: I'm still shaking my head, a year + later, because it's so
inconceivable to me to think of cultivating a freindship only to make
drama with it...but I can't frame his behavior in any other context.
SkyeDS: but it would be more honest to say, look, I don't want to be
friends with you, the way you define it, sorry.
SkyeDS: before blocking him.
evile: You could always build up his ego by claiming to be 'too
heartbroken' to be 'just friends' so 'goodbye forever'. :P
evile: That would feed his drama-jones without pissing him off, and
leave you on the moral high ground :)
SkyeDS: I just ate lunch, please do not make me regurgitate my
chocolate mint cookies, they are the high point of my day :(
evile: And also be an amusing story.
evile: I'm finding that telling people what they wanna hear is often
the best possible way to stir shit, while not getting any on myself.
If it doesn't hurt me, why the hell not? :P
SkyeDS: easy would be just put him on electronic ignore without
saying a word to him and let him figure it out on his own
SkyeDS: but you pointed out the other day that that easy isn't the
same as right way
SkyeDS: so I might as well just email him and say look, if I were in
this sitch with any other friend, I would expect an apology. And I
would expect that I'm not always the one driving all the way to OK to
see Shea or all the way to Txka to see Shannon, with no reciprocity.
And i wouldn't be friends with anyone who keeps throwing shit back in
my face. So, thanks but no thanks, and don't contact me anymore.
evile: Well...you could always say "I don't have room in my life for
your friendship, but you will always be a special part of my past."
something like that....
evile: Because that's true....as far as it goes.
SkyeDS: I don't have it in my heart to say that.
SkyeDS: the person who was special in the past is long gone.
evile: That's too bad.
SkyeDS: if I thought my words would reach the right ground, I would
say that, but he's aggravated me to the point I wish he'd take a long
walk off a short cliff
SkyeDS: and on top of that he msgs me with things he knows are
inflammatory when he knows I"m at work.
evile: that's always a lovely tactic
SkyeDS: I was so tempted the other day to say, you know what, why
don't you run play in traffic now like a good boy because Aunt Skye
has to work.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: as it was I did the cowardly thing and just set myself away
util he left
evile: How about "have a nice life, I do not want to be part of it"..?
SkyeDS: with no reasonn given whatsoever
SkyeDS: I like that too
SkyeDS: all he'd do given my reasons is argue them
evile: You don't owe him an explanation. And you're right, he'd just
want to argue. If you dont' feel like the relationship is fixable,
why give him another ball in his court?
SkyeDS: I would like to be friends, but not the way things are now,
while it is the absolute truth, leaves too much room for war
SkyeDS: so I don't wat to be friends, period, while not the exact
truth, would certainly leave him no room
evile: But if you give him room, he's just going to argue with you
and tell you what a bag of assholes you are...which is not productive
for either of you.
SkyeDS: and right now I don't konw that I might not have an easier
time beign nice to Randy of all people.
evile: Maybe you could say "I need some time, can I call you when I'm
more at peace with how things ended?"
SkyeDS: I like go away. don't go away mad, just go away.
SkyeDS: I mean, what do I care.
evile: "Can you leave me alone for Xamount of time, and I'll call you
when I'm not so hurt & angry"
SkyeDS: I ca't make him understand what I want and why
SkyeDS: he's going to make drama no matter what
evile: well, yeah.
SkyeDS: so just, go away
SkyeDS: not eve, go away and come back when you've gotten over your
bad self, that's fightin words. just, have a nice day.
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I will probably never finnd out whether or not he has matured
enough to be frieds with but right now I really, really don't give a
damn
evile: Leave it simple, don't give him any wriggle room or room
to 'interpret' what isn't there...
SkyeDS: and if it weren't for what you said the other day, I would
continue to handle it the easy/cowardly way, not say a word, adn just
block him.
evile: Not like you don't have plenty of other friends, loved ones,
and things to do...
evile: When something or someone becomes more trouble than they're
worth, time to say goodbye...
evile: You can't control how he's going to feel about it, or make him
understand if he's dead-set against understanding. Why keep hurting
yourself?
evile: (saw 2 current RHPS cast on the train, BTW)
SkyeDS: I don't know if he's still doing that. He says he's hanging
out at some coffeeshop near campus called Metro
SkyeDS: I have no clue where or what that is and no desire to find out
evile: I hate driving/parking on & near campus.
SkyeDS: and my guess is, for a number of reasons, that I won't run
into him at Polys or Voyagers when I have time to socialize in the
indeterminate future
evile: heh. Nope.
SkyeDS: he will think I'm "active" because I post now and again
SkyeDS: and he won't go and run the risk of seeing sonar0m in the role
of SO or Master.
SkyeDS: besides, he is such a wannabe poseur that I'm sure the empty
headed college girls are just his speed
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: sonar0m said the other day that after havinng adult
conversationsn about adult topics with sineater & me, he can't stand the
conversations particularly of the girls his own age at ACC.
evile: heh.
evile: I can see that.
SkyeDS: his little 14 yo cousin that we took out riding in the park
one day had a debate about philosophy with M's mom, got disgusted and
gave up.
SkyeDS: sad not to be able to hold your own in a debate w/ a 14 yo

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SkyeDS: that's what I"ll do
evile: sounds good. I hope it works :)
SkyeDS: wait until he says something again, and then say, you know,
things are raw right now between us. how bout we give it a year
space.
SkyeDS: like till my birthday next year.
evile: There ya go.
SkyeDS: thank you, that's a practical solution
evile: You're welcome. I really hope it works out.
evile: (did not work for me & X..but that's her fault, I think...)
SkyeDS: if he can't handle it, he goes off a cliff far as I'm
concerned, and no loss
SkyeDS: I can't remember the last time I spent in company with the
person I remember as my friend
evile: I told her to leave me alone and I needed time, but a) she
kept pestering and b) then she got busted for drugs and then c) she
STILL kept pestering....
evile: I'd like to think that if she'd just given me time and not
been a druggie skank, we might be friends again..oh well. I hear
ya...I can't remember the last time I spent time with her and we
actually enjoyed each other as friends...
evile: I felt loss when we fell out, but more than that, I was just
relieved. And it seems to me that if someone is important to your
life and GOOD for you, losing them should not be a relief...
SkyeDS: maybe if she gives you space of a year
SkyeDS: and then you cross paths (without her pestering, just run
into each other or whatever) things will be different
SkyeDS: I would hope that for us
evile: It's been a year since the original fallout...only about 7
months since the drug bust.
SkyeDS: but it won't happen until the person I loved and was my best
friend comes back
evile: If it was just a matter of her using me and treating me
shamefully, that would be one thing...
SkyeDS: Hugh said he liked Van Helsing.
SkyeDS: non sequitur sorry
evile: but then she badmouthed me to my family. She got busted for
selling drugs. Her daughter had hardcore porn in her room and wasn't
shocked or offended by the material, was very matter of fact about
the content of the mags & the drugs ...
SkyeDS: I think the person you loved is gone too
evile: And now she's got her web-cam pictures that very clearly show
her STONED on many occasions. And apparently she still has her
children and is still exposing them to that, plus a parade of
boyfriends...I'm sorry, but I can't approve of that or be around
that. Its sick and it's child abuse and there's not a fuckin' thing I
can do to protect the kids from it...so I just can't be involved.
SkyeDS: and if the people as we knew and loved them are gone, why
bother?
SkyeDS: I don't like the "new" kaleon, at all
evile: People change & grow, that's normal & desirable..but they can
grow apart,and they can discard parts of themselves that they find to
be liabilitiies, but which were precious to the people who loved
them...
SkyeDS: I don't care to be friends with someone who found it a
liability to be discarded that he should apologize when he's abusive
and try not to do it again and cease flinging mud under the guise
of "but I forgive you"
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: and i have no clue as to what valuable things X must have
found liabilities to be discarded
SkyeDS: that whole sitch makes my head hurt.
SkyeDS: and I"m not nearly as close to it as you, like duh
SkyeDS: you know, my mother says my memory is a big drawback
SkyeDS: because it enables me to bear grudges
evile: *sigh*
evile: It's not the memory, it's the fact that the feelings stay
fresh.
SkyeDS: and I thought I was being big of me, not to fling mud
SkyeDS: so I'm sitting here being all good and not flinging mud and
does anyone notice, no, because anyone is too busy flinging it at ME.
evile: It's hard not to fight back with the same thing that's being
used on you...
SkyeDS: I suspect if you keep finding out stuff about the kids, you
will either a) arrange to have them kidnapped or some other vigilante
justice
SkyeDS: or b) end up calling CPS
SkyeDS: and CPS is a crap shoot
SkyeDS: Linda was one of the angels there ....and she's gone
evile: Yup. I just can't know. It hurts too much and I can't do a
fuckin' thing. Maybe the CPS worker will be itnerested in the up at 3
a.m. stoned photos of the children's parent & primary caretaker, or
maybe not...
SkyeDS: with CPS there's no telling
SkyeDS: you could end up with a Linda
SkyeDS: or you could end up like Stephanie & Mellisandra
SkyeDS: except you have no kids for them to come after you for
evile: The kids could always end up with something worse...the foster
system is a nightmare.
SkyeDS: zactly
SkyeDS: almost all comprised of truly nutcase religious wackos.
evile: I have no doubt that [goddessdaughter J] (and maybe the boys) will be/have
been molested by her druggie friends...but maybe not to the degree
that it would happen in foster care...
evile: The way J talked about the acts in the magazine really
bothered my mom...and she's worked within 'the system' long enough to
know how to talk to kids about abuse without leading, etc.
SkyeDS: <arched brow> I didn't know J had talked to your mom,
that's a good thing. what did she say tho?
evile: X was molested by at least one of her mother's druggie
boyfriends growing up...
evile: Mom called & talked to the kids right after the bust, when the
children were at C & M V's.
SkyeDS: it is interesting. abusers either perpetrate abuse/allow it
when they grow up, or grow up to fight it passionately.
evile: It's also possible that J was/is selling at school, from
what she said to my mom
evile: X's mom was molested by a Catholic priest (who was also
sleeping with her mother) when she was a little girl...that whole
family is so fucked up.....back and back and back ....nothing but
sickness.
SkyeDS: you observed that what you do when you are an adult about the
cycles before you were an adult, is up to you.
SkyeDS: something Dr. Laura says too, interestingly enough.
evile: ick...I don't want to agree with her bout anything!!
SkyeDS: hate to tell you this, but you agree with her frequently
about the issues connected with children.
SkyeDS: you're just not as bitchy in the way you express. which
makes it easier to swallow
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: no point in having good ideas if you can't get anyone to
listen to them because you are being a bitch.
evile: I may be extreme, and I don't have kids, so how do I
know...but if I had a daughter and ANYBODY did ANYTHING to her...I'd
cut his nuts off.
SkyeDS: I've said it before, I'll say it again. If you harm my child
(my current "children", or any of the children to whom I am Aunt
Skye), I will kill you. With my bare hands. And I'll call Hugh and
the Sherriff ahead of time to let them know i"m coming and why.
evile: Yup.
SkyeDS: sineater & sonar0m: She has out the sword and we can't stop her
this time.
evile: I just don't understand why I get as distressed & protective
of a kid that isnt 'mine, but parents can just let shit happen ...
SkyeDS: anymore than I understand parents that will let their kids
swing from the tail of a horse.
SkyeDS: when they don't know my horse from the devil.
evile: If I saw M or X on the street, I'd probably try to kill
them...
SkyeDS: and what I don't get is, we loved you, why did you do this to
us?
evile: Drugs are a very powerful thing...people do a lot of
reprehensible shit while on them, addicts then do a lot of other shit
to GET them...it's not the person, it's the drugs...but if the person
keeps choosing drugs over loved ones...what can you do?
SkyeDS: I hate it when alkies use alcohol as an excuse
SkyeDS: I wouldn't have cheated on you, it was the alcohol
SkyeDS: look
SkyeDS: you know, before you go under the influence of the substance,
what it does to you
SkyeDS: so you undergo the influence of your own free will,
deliberately and with aforethought
evile: exactly. If they're going to choose the addiction over their
loved ones, no reason to hang around to reap the consequences of
their choice.
SkyeDS: tough love is necessary
evile: yup...
SkyeDS: tough is assertive, it involves walking beside.
SkyeDS: not beneath to be walked on and not on top to walk on
SkyeDS: horses are good lesson in that. assertiveness, not bullying,
nor being bullied
evile: X hasn't shown any actual remorse...she is just trying
harder to hide stuff from people... i honestly don't know what I'd
do if I ever heard from her and heard sincerity in her voice rather
than another attempt at manipulation...
SkyeDS: I suspect if you heard sincerity you would sinncerely forgive
SkyeDS: but just how highly likely is that to happen.
evile: You think better of me than I do...I can be a pretty hard-
hearted, cold bitch. Often for no very good reason...
SkyeDS: and no one would blame you for establishign a test to the
sincerity (although she would call it "hoops")
evile: I've known her for 33 years...If she said she was sorry and
meant it, I would know.
SkyeDS: you also know better than anyone how likely that is.
evile: She might have been able to fool the judge, her parole
officer, the people at ALanon & whatever other court-ordered rehab,
but _I_ am not buying any of it.
evile: She won't be sorry until she's ODed...and maybe not even then
SkyeDS: she's not just shaping her own nightmare but her kids' too.
evile: Her whole life blew up in her face as a direct result of her
actions. She lost her home, her pets, her car, and her marriage...and
it was still somebody else's fault...
SkyeDS: a la What DreamS May Come
evile: I wish there was anything to be done for the kids...but there
just isn't. :(
SkyeDS: sounds like the damage is already done, at least to the
oldest girl.
SkyeDS: and why did M leave the kids with her anyway. that
doesn't seem like him at all.
evile: M's in Jail, or at least he was for a good long time after
they both got busted.
SkyeDS: why isn't she in jail annd the kids in foster.
evile: the court either had to find fostercare for 3 kids or believe
a firsttime offender's tearful protest that she didn't know what her
husband was doing, and she is innocent!
SkyeDS: that's nauseating
evile: Apparently she got court ordered rehab, and maybe some kind of
probation, and that's it. Her husband took the fall for the whole thing.
evile: X can cry at will.
evile: and make her voice break.
SkyeDS: nice.
evile: and she's got those big doe-eyes that look so innocent. and
for Gods SAke! She's a Mooooooother and she looooooooooves her
Chilllllldrrrruuun!
evile: Please, your honor, do whatever you need to do, but please
dont' hurt my children!!! *sob sob*
SkyeDS: and Texas slants automatically towards mom good, dad bad,
unless mom is provably pagan
evile: or a junkie.
evile: Sometimes the court will take a kid away from a junkie mom &
give custody to dad, ASSUMING of course that Dad is NOT a junkie.
SkyeDS: she proved to someone's satisfaction that she isn't a junkie :
(
SkyeDS: if she's got a PO surely they're doing regular UAs on her
(pee tests)
evile: "Oh, M had just gotten me to try it for the first time
right before the bust! But I wasn't a user, HONEST!"
evile: I dunno...she looks fucked up in alot of her photos.
SkyeDS: UAs and blood tests operate on half lives, and each drug has
a different half life
evile: she sent me a really bizarre email, one of her attempts to gte
back on my good side, something about how she lost all the weight on
her own, except for the last couple months when she'd started
partaking. Like I give a rat's ASS how she lost her weight??
SkyeDS: so once half of it is out of your system ostensibly it
doesn't test positive anymore.
evile: so basically you just need to be smart enough not to use ___
days before your PO appointment.
SkyeDS: she sent you that after she admitted herslef that she took
some otc med that made her sick when she ate wrong?
evile: *shrug* I don't care if she was binging and purging...that's
really not important, given the larger issues of breaking my trust,
M's trust, and allowing the children to be exposed to unsavory
elements..
SkyeDS: J. is already observably like her mother.
evile: I dont' care if she was using her hoover for home
liposuction...whatever. But she just totally fixated on being skinny
as one of the reasons I hated her, or whatever.
evile: J has learned how to manipulate people & how to be cute &
whatnot, yes :(
SkyeDS: I remember visiting them very early on after we got married,
and watching "Heavy Metal", when J was like....3?
SkyeDS: and thinking, I wouldn't let a 3 yo watch Heavy Metal
SkyeDS: and that the house smelled...funny
evile: hard to smell much above the smellof babies & dogs...
SkyeDS: of course at that point I had never smelled that kind of
funny before, and had no clue. sineater told me when we got home
SkyeDS: and I never said anything because who would I say it to? I
was outnumbered.
evile: oh, crud...time for me to get movin' here...
SkyeDS: aye tis
SkyeDS: <hugs> wind to your wings, clear your mind, go home :P
evile: I hope things with you & kaleon resolve themselves...
SkyeDS: they already have to my mind :)
evile: *hugs* I'm taking a big walk today, that'll do me some good
both mind & body.
evile: I'm glad :)
SkyeDS: ciao bella, a la domanni
evile: take care :)

 

in my dream the wedding & some classy drinks & little snacks in one
place, and then there was a dining hall where there was a potluck
after the ceremony.

{Rubber Pig}'s fam showed up in two big vans, (lots of fat women in halter
tops and other tacky things--I remember back fat) and got out and
just started eating before I could direct them to the area where the
bride & groom were cutting the cake, having champagne, etc. They
basically ate EVERYTHING in sight, and I think maybe one of them had
brought something for the potluck but the rest arrived hungry &
emptyhanded. Then I overheard one of {Rubber Pig}'s relatives saying that we
had deliberately separated out {Rubber Pig}'s guests from the rest of the
guests and MADE them stay at the dining hall and miss the champagne &
cake. I knew they'd tell {Rubber Pig} this and that she'd believe them.

Someting about taking a bath.

Something about climbing up a hill to a stone chapel, people in ren
garb.

Something about Sweetie bringing one of {Rubber Pig}'s family members to stay at
our house, a kid with his dog. I started asking the kid if the dog
knew any tricks or knew how to ask to go outside to potty,and the kid
said no.

Not a very nice dream.
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In RL, Aunt L says she got a wierd email from {Rubber Pig} saying that {Rubber Pig}
and [brother A] had discussed it and they werent' going to try and get the
whole family together for anything anymore, due to {Rubber Pig}'s 'abrasive
personality' and something about how she knew nobody would come
to "Yummy's" birthday party, anyway. Ridiculous. Looks like "skye"/Sineater
stirring to my practiced eye. But, then again, I did give them ammo
for that. so its mostly my fault, probably