2287icq w/sineater

[evile]

• Jun. 17, 2004

   

  evile: Hey, turkeybutt!!
  Sineater: hey boogerhead :P
  
  evile: how's tricks?
  Sineater: busy
  
  evile: in a good way, I hope.
  Sineater: is there any way to make icq lite send on carriage return
  instead of having to hit the gooddamn send button every time????
  
  Sineater: not really... hanging in, overall
  evile: I think you have to clicky the send button. Sorry charlie.
  Sineater: well fuck.
  Sineater: how are you?
  evile: owie. You called last night just after I left for Krav Maga
  class. I'm taking it Mondays & Wednesdays. Its kicking my butt.
  evile: But in a good way...I think/hope.
  Sineater: that's good :)
  Sineater: now you can kill coworkers bare handed!
  evile: nah...not worth the jail time. But I am thinking I've been
  very lucky in that I've never been mugged or raped...and that
  eventually luck runs out. I will be ready when it happens...
  Sineater: nodnod. and krav maga is supposed to be pretty good shit,
  easy to do w/o having to be supergirl
  
  evile: yup. Even after 2 classes I feel like I could deal with
  something if it happened.
  evile: I don't know about 'easy'...they run us pretty ragged.
  evile: First class, I was sweating from my kneecaps. damndest
  thing...never sweated THERE before....
  Sineater: realtively speaking. vs say tae kwon do
  Sineater: really??
  Sineater: i sweat all over after a hard ride
  evile: Well, it's not so much 'this is how you stand and this is the
  proper breathing and bla bla' it's POUND THE SHIT OUT O FTHAT FUCKER!
  evile: I dont' usually do anything that makes me sweat. My preferred
  exercises are yoga, pilates, and swimming. Not alot of sweating.
  Sineater: oh
  evile: Anyhoo...I don't know how often you read LJ these days. I'm
  having a picnic Sunday at the park by our house & looks like so far
  Aunt L, Uncle B, Brother A's 'stepkids',Erin, Marca, Marca's kid, and Pace are
  coming :)
  Sineater: nodnod
  
  Sineater: we had planned to be in sugarland, but this may be more
  important
  evile: Well, I know you had prior plans & obligations. But if
  something falls through, or gets rescheduled, or whatever, keep it in
  the back of your mind,: 2pm Sunday :)
  evile: The Rubber Pig made noises like she was going to come up from SA...but
  if she's so dang puny she should not be making that kind of trip and
  risking hurting herself.
  Sineater: ahem. do we know for a fact that she a) had surgery and b)
  has serious back problems to begin with?
  Sineater: cause it's always a handy excuse, you know
  evile: I am pretty sure she actually had surgery on June 4. I am not
  sure how serious it was.
  evile: To me it struck me as her reading the list of all the possible
  things that could go wrong that the dr.s always give you to sign
  before a procedure. and deciding that those things WERE going to
  happen...if that makes sense.
  Sineater: really? because the alien mind control parasites always
  leave scars on the back of the neck, too
  evile: ugh.
  evile: I think alien mind control would be preferable to the current
  personality...
  Sineater: she sounds as though she may be as divorced from objective
  truth (or consensual reality) as Brother A can be sometimes, from what
  Skye_ds has been telling me
  evile: They are really quite adept at building castles in the clouds.
  Too bad that isn't really a marketable skill....
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: yeah, me too. I have no idea what to do or say in this
  situation...everything just gets wierder and wierder and worse and
  worse.
  Sineater: i am worried that now Brother A is involved with a person (or 2,
  assuming trey is as wacko) who will use him very very badly, and get
  him into serious trouble
  evile: I still can't get an answer from anyone about the dog.
  Sineater: like, say, a conspiracy to commit medical fraud! :)
  Sineater: aaaarrrrgghhh!!!!!!
  Sineater: we are willing to provide a safe haven for the dog if need
  be
  Sineater: i wonder; is Aunt L going to take the kids for the same
  reason?
  evile: Bless you for that :) I've passed it along to as many people
  as I can think of who will possibly be able to get the message into
  Brother A's pointy head.
  evile: Aunt L is taking the kids because The Rubber Pig's mom had originally
  said she would take them, but "the story" now is that The Rubber Pig's mom
  attempted suicide for the 14th time, and The Rubber Pig does not want the kids
  out in Blanco with a suicidal woman who may end up succeeding when
  it's just her and hte kids in the house.
  evile: The Rubber Pig isn't working, she's sick and in pain. Brother A isn't
  working,he's taking care of The Rubber Pig, and apparently can't watch the
  kids and take care of her at the same time.
  evile: And, of course, Trey is working.
  Sineater: sigh
  
  Sineater: so are they just going to be common-law bigamists then?
  evile: no, no, according to The Rubber Pig, they are Really Married. Because
  she is "obedient" to him.
  Sineater: uh yup...
  evile: Marriage license, property ownership, the commonlaws of TX,
  those mean nothing in her mind. It's whether or nto the woman is
  obedient to the man.
  Sineater: then why do they not just make it a d/s contract?
  evile: Because she wanted the dress and the ceremony, i guess...
  Sineater: i had this wierd idea that marriage was about commitment.
  silly me...
  Sineater: then why she not just get handfasted?
  Sineater: oh forgot. she's very jewish.
  evile: she is 'devoutly' Jewish, darling. handfasting is not what
  Jews do.
  Sineater: no, -marriage- is what jews do, and judaism has a quite
  strict definition of what a marriage is.
  evile: I really can't get my head into her reality...she goes on and
  on about how her faith is so important, and she's so devout, oy vey
  meshuguna, and then she pulls this fake internet minister garbage and
  says its Real.
  Sineater: internet minister?
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: the officiant said, "By the power vested in me by the magical
  internet, I now pronounce you..." I am NOT shitting you.
  Sineater: you know, i'm a pope. got a card right here that says so.
  evile: me too.
  evile: Now go get me some fetus stem cells, I'm hungry.
  Sineater: ohhhkay. so. not "internet church", like mail-order
  deaconship,
  Sineater: but church OF the internet, as in worship the internet????
  Sineater: yum yum!! that's a good one :)
  evile: 1) she and Trey have no Get.
  2) she and Brother A have no marriage license
  I have no idea what the offician'ts credentials are, but given 1 & 2
  as TRUE, Brother A and The Rubber Pig's 'marriage' MUST then be FALSE.
  evile: Is my logic flawed in some way, or is that the way you see it,
  also???
  Sineater: get?
  evile: Jewish religious divorce is called a Get.
  evile: Like the catholic religious divorce is called an annullment.
  Sineater: ah. i for get that one
  evile: heh
  Sineater: from the latin "anus"
  evile: *laff*
  Sineater: sigh
  evile: yup.
  Sineater: some people will argue that there is an "eyes of god"
  marriage, which requires no license, and really then no minister or
  ceremony either
  
  Sineater: however;
  Sineater: this is not recognized by the state. period. state says, no
  marriage, no license.
  evile: and there are children to be considered here...
  Sineater: this is also not recognized by the jewish religion,
  orthodox, reformed, messianic, or otherwise
  Sineater: unless you count some mystics who say the decision to have
  sex is marriage in the eyes of the lord
  Sineater: which means therefore divorces are very common, too...
  evile: Brother A says he just doesn't understand whyyyy Mom & [dad] don't
  take this seriously and keep asking him what is REALLLY going
  on...when the story changes every day...after all, don't all peoples
  lives change drastically evey single day...?
  Sineater: but no rabbi will do anything other than laugh at this. if
  you are lucky...
  evile: The Rubber Pig's rabbi refused to to the marriage in his church or
  allow any rabbi of his congregation to perform the ceremony.
  Sineater: you -always- have to keep asking what is going on with
  Brother A, even for the simplest things like what he had for lunch
  Sineater: well duh! no get, no marriage, period
  Sineater: oy gevalt.
  evile: If her religion is so important, if she obeys god first, daddy
  2nd and hubby 3rd, as she said, then WHY wasn't her rabbi's NO
  enough to stop her and Brother A DEAD
  evile: As a 'devoutly religious' (she said this several times on the
  phone Tues) the rabbi says No, that's it..right?
  Sineater: maybe she's waiting for god to say something.
  Sineater: though in judaism you can't really talk to god directly.
  prayer is all. god will talk to the rabbi if he feels like it, maybe.
  Sineater: kind of like, say, catholicism
  Sineater: if god is in a good mood he'll mention something to the
  pope, who might tell you, m,ight not
  evile: I just can't get it into my head that she & Brother A seem to
  believe several completely opposite things ALL AT ONCE
  Sineater: well.... that is called insanity.
  Sineater: and while that is really just a facile explanation
  tantamount to an off the cuff dismissal... well, there it is.
  evile: *sigh* I hear ya...
  Sineater: i can think that way sometimes, but it makes my head hurt.
  i found out a long time ago that "i am vast, i encompass
  contradictions" was really just not true. small contradictions yes,
  but not entirely conflicting beliefs. the mind will usually make some
  sort of explanation for itself.
  
  Sineater: sometimes it's just as simple as "i believe what i want to
  believe that will let me do what i want to do, and damned if i will
  tell anybody the truth, including myself"... but i don't think that
  is what's going on in Brother A's head
  Sineater: though it might very well be what's in The Rubber Pig's little skull
  evile: I have no idea....
  evile: It was wierd/creepy to hear her on one extention say something
  and then have him say it 2 seconds later...
  evile: well, it's about time for me to get ready to go...I need to
  make sangria, fed ex my dad's fathers day package, and that's about
  it. So I should mostly be home tonight.
  Sineater: nod, take care .will probably call
  evile: I get home from the bus stop around 5, so I'll be home from
  then on, mostly . Love ya!
  Sineater: :-)