evile: hey 	:) How's your day going?
SkyeDS: goes, got here early get to 	leave early, I'm sorry yours
isn't better.
SkyeDS: I intend to 	start on some of the fat flush plan including
evening 	primrose
evile: I'm just grouchy. BAd sleep/not enough sleep, 	never a good
thing.
SkyeDS: does it always induce dreams, and 	are they always bad? :(
evile: so far, always bad.
evile: 	seems to go away after a few days/week or so.
evile: I started 	taking EPO and Flax in November, took it through
December/beginning 	of January. Then I ran out and just went and got
more yesterday 	evening. In just that short time, though, my skin got
nicer and 	Tina noticed my hair had grown a lot & was in good shape
SkyeDS: 	nods
SkyeDS: I'm still pondering whether to use flax (fat flush) 	or
coconut oil, which is supposed to be good for the 	thyroid
evile: coconut is saturated, not good for high blood 	pressure...
SkyeDS: don't have high blood pressure.
evile: It 	mimics animal fat in your veins & arteries. In soapmaking,
it 	is very drying to the skin. Personally, I wouldn't ingest it if 	at
all possible.
SkyeDS: if sineater gets another Ajilon 	assignment and we get our health
insurance back, the first thing 	I'm going to do is go through
traditional channels where my 	thyroid is concerned.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: however, if that 	doesn't work, have to go somewhere.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: there 	are other oils good for the thyroid, I know olive is
one of 	them
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I haven't finished my research into 	them all yet. Have just
read about coconut so far, and haven't 	even read enough about it yet
evile: yeah
evile: there is a 	lot of info out there, always good to educate
yourself.
SkyeDS: 	I'm already expecting a battle from traditional md's 	over
subclinical hypothyroid
SkyeDS: they all pretty much want 	to medicate ranges and not symptoms
evile: exactly
SkyeDS: 	subclinical = IN range, but low, hence SUBclinical
evile: 	right.
SkyeDS: and paradoxically enough, my attitude about ADD/HD 	is
entirely different
SkyeDS: there are too many doctors 	medicating the symptoms and not
doing the definitive test
evile: 	yup
SkyeDS: eg, spectrograph EEG
SkyeDS: thing is, the 	symptoms they medicate could be any number of
things other than 	ADD/HD, and given the medication if that's not what
the problem 	is, only fucks things up worse
SkyeDS: subclinical thyroid 	symptoms are VERY specific
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: I saw the 	results of Marshal's test, and told his mother, no
offense, but 	that boy is not add/hd or ODD, he's a spoiled brat
SkyeDS: and I 	think I have a lead on why she's such a shrill shrew
evile: she's 	nuts?
SkyeDS: her husband contradicts her in front of Marshal, 	completely
undermining all her attempts at discipline, and she 	feels completely
out of control
evile: sad.
SkyeDS: she's 	probably nuts too
SkyeDS: but I've seen her try to do the right 	thing
SkyeDS: and I've seen him countermand it
evile: that 	sucks!
SkyeDS: I don't think she's reacting to this negative 	stimulus the
right way
SkyeDS: but I do think it is a 	reaction
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: she's got every reason to be 	upset, what she needs is a
better mode of expression
evile: 	*nod*
SkyeDS: anyway, Derald went too far when he interposed 	himself in my
lesson.
SkyeDS: I dont' believe that will be 	happening again.
evile: dang.
SkyeDS: I have said this before, 	and I'll say it again.
SkyeDS: when you are in the training ring, 	Sensai/Master is the
ultimate authority.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: 	Now if you can't handle that, you don't get into the training
ring 	with that particular sensai/master
SkyeDS: you find someone you 	can put that trust in
SkyeDS: not unlike the D/s 	relationship
SkyeDS: in training animals, the cycle goes like 	this. training
starts out good, then gets bad.
SkyeDS: then it 	gets better
SkyeDS: then it gets even worse than it ever was 	before
SkyeDS: which is always a surprise to anyone who isn't 	expecting it
SkyeDS: because they get to better than it's ever 	been before, and
think they've made it, and stop there
SkyeDS: 	after worse, if you don't give up, you get consistent. which
is 	what you want.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: so, in the last lesson, 	marshall went from better to worse
SkyeDS: and his dad enabled 	it
SkyeDS: worse is always heartbreaking, even w hen I expect 	it
evile: I'm sure.
SkyeDS: his dad shows up 20 minutes before 	the end of an hour lesson,
offering him pizza for dinner
SkyeDS: 	nice distraction there
SkyeDS: plus, he had been set to a task 	that his dad showing up
interrupted
evile: suck!
SkyeDS: 	then he started flat balking at everything that was asked of
him, 	and he's always given win-win no resistance choices
SkyeDS: ie 	you can do this, or you can do that (either one of which
gives me 	a response I want)
SkyeDS: and for the first time ever in his 	lessoning, he just flat
refused to make a choice or do anything 	at all
SkyeDS: so I told Justina, might as well take him 	home
SkyeDS: can't do anything else with him
SkyeDS: so t hen 	Derald was going to write my check for 20 minutes
short
evile: 	that's probably a good coping mechanism when stuck between 	mom
screching for him to do one thing and dad telling him he's 	going to
get it if he obeys mom
SkyeDS: I said, um no I don't 	think so
SkyeDS: oh Marshall plays those two like a fucking video 	game, and so
I told her
SkyeDS: then I sent him to the porch 	to put his nose against the
door, not to look or speak to anyone, 	and I THOUGHT the adults
involved would understand that they 	should not look or speak to him
SkyeDS: but apparently Derald 	took objection to this
evile: I am pretty much for whatever 	consenting adults want to do, so
if crazy screechy wants to spend 	her life being cut down by jerk guy,
fine. But then people bring 	kids into it,and that just pisses me off.
SkyeDS: exactly
SkyeDS: 	and I think we may be the only people in Marshal's life that
are 	good influences
evile: that's just very sad.
SkyeDS: so we try 	very hard, but we don't have enough resources time
or powerwise 	to completely combat everything by ourselves
SkyeDS: Derald seems 	to think that discipline should come from
outside the home but 	not inside it
evile: nope. Plus, you're not the parents.
SkyeDS: 	so teachers are supposed to impose discipline, but he got
madder 	than a wet hen when I did.
evile: Other than establishing 	discipline in your own 'classroom' and
reporting to authorities 	if you think he's abused, that's pretty much
the extent of your 	control of the situation.
SkyeDS: Derald is playing the abuse 	situation
SkyeDS: he doesn't seem to realize that CPS is not 	going to take
Marshal and give him to Derald
evile: what do 	you mean by that?
SkyeDS: that is for a court to decide in a 	divorce proceeding
SkyeDS: if CPS takes him, CPS takes him from 	both of them, and that's
the end of that
evile: poor 	kid.
SkyeDS: Derald is inclined to attempt to use CPS against 	Justina.
SkyeDS: example.
SkyeDS: Marshall refuses to eat 	what's for dinner
SkyeDS: gets sent to his room
SkyeDS: Derald 	lets him out and gives him what he wants to eat
SkyeDS: if 	Justina tries to stop that Derald tells CPS that Justina
is 	starving the boy
evile: that sucks.
SkyeDS: Derald and 	Marshall need to understand something about CPS.
SkyeDS: CPS Is 	not the frying pan, it's the fire
SkyeDS: and foster families 	often times do more damage than the
original family
SkyeDS: 	once CPS takes a kid, that's that, no going back, no fixing
evile: 	very sad.
SkyeDS: these people don't seem to understand that 	there are things
that once broken cannot be mended
evile: 	yup
SkyeDS: I was looking for a quote from the assassin's 	handbook the
other day about not doing what can't be 	undone
SkyeDS: but couldn't find it
evile: I hate it when that 	happens.
evile: I used to keep a bunch of quotes online, but I 	haven't updated
my list in a while.
SkyeDS: I have a list of 	good quote pages online in my head
SkyeDS: which is not a good 	place to keep lists anymore
evile: I hear ya. I have to write 	everything down these days.
SkyeDS: I think I go overboard with 	quotes, and I"m getting worse
with time
SkyeDS: but why 	should I attempt to say what's already been said
better?
evile: 	yup
SkyeDS: I notice Avena Sativa listed as both thyroid 	and
perimenopause effective
SkyeDS: perimenopause = starts at 	35
evile: cool :)
SkyeDS: and I think black cohosh is 	suggested in fat flush along with
evening primrose if I don't 	remember incorrectly (books at home, not
here)
evile: yeah, 	black cohosh is a good woman's herb
SkyeDS: thing is 	perimenopause and subclinical hypothyroid have
similar 	symptoms
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: but, I have suffered these 	symptoms all my life, and am just
now closing in on 	perimenopause
SkyeDS: although the symptoms are getting slowly 	but surely worse, so
perimenopause isn't helping anything for 	sure
evile: so logically it's probably more likely to be thyroid, 	perhaps
now being complicated by the other hormonal stuff
SkyeDS: 	nod, and scht gets worse with age
evile: yup.
evile: One of my 	TIM friends just asked me if *I* was being abused,
due to my 	recent LJ posts. jeez.
SkyeDS: Friday is going to be superpurge 	day. Carpets cleaned,
banishing ritual (think I'll include EVERY 	source I can identify and
not just one)
SkyeDS: (eg, Gloria 	and her brood as well as him and his)
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: why 	is the exercise of jumping to conclusion so prevalent 	in
LJland?
evile: I guess people get bored at work.
SkyeDS: 	one of the things you posted made a good point I don't think
any 	of the others did
evile: what's that?
SkyeDS: all of us do 	some of those things on rare occasions when
we're angry
evile: 	yup
SkyeDS: I felt much better after I posted my little two 	cents.
evile: good.
SkyeDS: I am going to admit ahead of time 	that I have one more snarky
post to make
SkyeDS: I"m 	going to make it Friday before my banishing
evile: ok.
SkyeDS: 	and that will be the end of that
SkyeDS: it's temptation, and I 	don't really want to resist it, it
will be short and sweet
evile: 	*nod*
SkyeDS: but exceedingly, exceedingly tacky.
evile: Oh 	well
SkyeDS: the person being snarked at already thinks I'm the 	queen of
snark
SkyeDS: he ought to know better
evile: 	piffle.
SkyeDS: too bad the true queens of snark cannot be loosed 	on him
evile: more like have better things to snark...
evile: 	no point in using an elephant gun on a gnat
SkyeDS: nope
SkyeDS: 	in my own defense, I am seldom snarky anyway, I usually keep
it 	to myself
SkyeDS: and I always know when I'm being that way, and 	admit it
freely, and take responsibility for the negative 	energy
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: if you hear a rattlesnake warning 	rattle and you don't get
out of the way it's your fault, you were 	forewarned.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: as opposed to getting chased 	by a cottonmouth without warning
and bitten for no reason
evile: 	*nod*
evile: I wonder what sonar0m would think of me posting a 	link to the
homonym of 'grate' that I think he meant to 	use?
evile: I don't think we know each other well enough for him 	to take
that as a friendly, humorous gesture.
SkyeDS: lol just 	keep in mind that he is severely dyslexic
SkyeDS: but he has a 	tremendously good sense of humor about it
evile: his LJ makes me 	want to whip out a giant red pen....also hurts
my head trying to 	figure out what he's talking about.
SkyeDS: ya
evile: I know 	he's a nice person and all, but I just don't think I
really want 	to be in touch with him through a medium in which he is
so 	weak.
SkyeDS: then don't
evile: OK.
evile: I just did not 	want it to become an issue ("why hasnt she
friended my 	boyfriend" or somesuch)
SkyeDS: no worries
evile: 	cool.
evile: One of the mods of the austin voyager yahoo group 	was at girls
night last night. We talked about the ridiculous 	hoo-ha going on
there right now.
evile: She was wanting to ban 	kenneth, and not do a thing to amelia
amelia
evile: I 	suggested that banning was a little more punitive than the
situation 	called for,maybe just put them both on 'moderated post'
status 	for a while until they can stop reacting and slow down to
think 	about what they're doing
evile: Her father is deathly ill, and 	her cat is also ill, so she's
got more important things to worry 	about, poor thing.
SkyeDS: what happened?
SkyeDS: what did 	Amelia and Kenneth do?
evile: There was a heated debate re: 	privacy, which amelia started.
evile: And then once that was 	resolved to her satisfaction, amelia
started talking about how if 	someone hosts a voyagers party in their
home, they have no right 	to exclude anyone based on their own[ the
hosts'] 	preference
evile: onyxlynxx had just joined, like, 4 days ago and 	she was all
like "is this group always like this?"...I 	felt bad for anyone who
had just joined the group at that 	point...very bad impression for new
people.
SkyeDS: ya
evile: 	I had been sitting on my hands for days, but finally had
enough 	yesterday and told amelia to remove objects from orifices and
step 	AWAY from the computer.
SkyeDS: rofl
evile: Granted, Kenneth 	has gotten wrapped up in irrelvant sidetracks
from the main 	argument, which kept it going longer than it should,
but I saw 	amelia more as the instigator.
SkyeDS: so you have learned that 	we are not all enlightened godlike
beings once again
evile: I 	pretty much knew that about the gwnn/voyager crowd already :P
evile: 	I was just really stunned that the mod wanted to put all the
blame 	on Kenneth. Her rationale is that amelia has been in the 	group
longer..well, so what?
evile: poor behavior is poor 	behavior, longevity has nothing to do
with it, IMHO. And that's 	kind of a weird attitude for a group geared
towards BDSM 	beginners to have, anyway.
SkyeDS: no different than the 	polys.
evile: I miss Mouser. He did not feed trolls or allow them 	to thrive
long in the austin poly group, RL or yahoo.
SkyeDS: 	online anyway
SkyeDS: not much he could do I wager at 	meetings
evile: depends on size of the group, milieu, etc.
evile: 	I watched him, more than once, make it uncomfortable for
sexual 	predators to hang out at first wednesday
SkyeDS: do let me know 	when/if he starts coming again?
evile: He's back in FL.
SkyeDS: 	well, I hope he's happy
evile: me too.
evile: Man...I am so 	ready for my nap!!
SkyeDS: hibernation weather
evile: 	yup.
evile: I'm thinking I might start trying to take my flaxseed 	and epo
at dinner,and then just take the calcium/magnesium/zinc 	at bedtime by
itself, see if that helps the nightmares. I could 	just stick it out
for however long it takes for my brain 	chemistry to get used to the
extra nutrition, but...eh.
SkyeDS: 	I need to get started on fat flush period
SkyeDS: but it's just 	going to have to wait until the trailer problem
is solved
evile: 	*nod*
evile: at last! Time to run free!...well, walk slowly 	free.
SkyeDS: time to go home, wind to your wings :)
evile: 	Have a good evening & happy mardi gras :)