evile: howdy :)
SkyeDS: Hey :)
evile: I had phone duty, but I slept in, so I'm leavig at 3:30 today.
SkyeDS: early is always good
evile: yeah.
evile: The Trooper ran out of water and overheated last night, so I
don't know if I am goign to get to go to polydinner tonight :(
SkyeDS: Cady says that men are difficult and exotic creatures
SkyeDS: I think, so are vehicles
evile: Which is why I leased for 4 yrs and then turned it in--no
problems that you get with older cars
SkyeDS: I tried to lease a hybrid, that was stupid of me as i came to
find out
evile: oh?
SkyeDS: you can't even buy used hybrids, much less lease them
evile: because they're new.
SkyeDS: the waiting list to buy them is so time sensitive that if
you've been on a list 6 months, they call you, and you take longer
than 2 hours to get there, they bump you
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: but I have since figured out that a Honda Insight is a better
deal than a Toyota Prius
evile: cool.
evile: L&B got to see "mom's" room at Brother A, Rubber_pig & Trey's.
evile: It is currently filled with black trash bags full of clothes &
whatnot.
SkyeDS: she actually gets a whole room to herself?
evile: a room full of stuff.
evile: I suppose they might invite her to sleep with Trey.
evile: Half the living room is blocked off by a bed where Rubber_pig
stays when she's feeling sick. And they have a serious insect problem.
evile: to the point whree Brother A cooks outside.
SkyeDS: :|
evile: Not good. Very unhealthful environment, for anyone, let alone
a baby.
SkyeDS: I hope K knows what she's doing.
evile: Rubber_pig also ruined L (the middle one's) birthday by being
sick and not letting anyone do anything that had been planned for the
child.
SkyeDS: :(
SkyeDS: that's just wrong.
evile: It's kind of like, OK, YOU can't go to your mom's for the
kids' party, but why can't Brother A or Trey take the kid to grandmas for
her OWN party?
evile: And then whoever stays behind can take care of Rubber_pig...so
Rubber_pig wouldn't even be out a caregiver by letting her child have her
damn birthday.
evile: But, no, that would mean that someone besides Rubber_pig would be
getting attention, and that just can't happen in the Pigaverse
SkyeDS: sineater and sonar0m would hover over me when I'm sick all the
time if I let them
evile: But BUT, not to the exclusion of taking care of Jess, Mirage,
or Arthur.
evile: She wasn't feeling well, that couldn't be helped, and I do not
begrudge her the need to stay in bed to feel better, but telling her
mother, her husband, and my brother that L's birthday would not be
celebrated becasue SHE, Rubber_pig, could not go to the party...that just
seems very cruel to me.
SkyeDS: I hate that kind of stuff where kids are concerned :(
evile: me too.
evile: L&B basically just dropped off the present and left.
SkyeDS: ya know, they could have brought the kids and the party to
Austin and we could have met them there with the horses.
SkyeDS: probably didn't even occur to them.
evile: They couldn't go anywhere, because Rubber_pig was sick.
SkyeDS: that kind of planning would have had to have happened during
the planning (before sickness)
evile: Rubber_pig's mom lives in Blanco & apparently there is travel &
outdoor property & whatnot involved
evile: But, honestly, even if the party had been planned around the
apartment complex playground, it would not have happened, because
Rubber_pig was sick.
SkyeDS: Rubber_pig wants Brother A to work for CPS
SkyeDS: I don't think it gets more ironic/droll than that.
evile: WEll, that way she'd never get called in, I guess.
evile: when/where did you hear that?
SkyeDS: TG
evile: Last I heard she wanted him to be a policeman.
SkyeDS: that's out. CPS is in.
evile: oh, ok. What.ever.
evile: I don't guess they know that CPS requires more than a GED ...
SkyeDS: well if they have any follow thru at all reckon they'll find
that out
evile: *nod*
evile: They've had a habit of getting irritated when people tell them
about Reality. "how dare you tell me that gravity applies to me,
too!" and treating the person as if it were THEIR fault that gravity
is a law nobody can break...
evile: So basically, the people who see them most often are reduced
to nodding and smiling at any crazy scheme they dream up, or risk
being cut off
evile: Brother A has always kind of been like that, in that he really has
never grasped that gravity does apply to him, but not the cutting off
& vengefulness that Rubber_pig has brought to the scene.
evile: She really brings out and encourages a lot of his less-lovely
personality traits....it's sad.
SkyeDS: helplessness.
evile: Considering that Aunt L will probably get suckered into lots of
financial support, no matter who ends up with the kid, she may as
well buy the name...
evile: Our family has at least 2 generations of naming your first
girl with the middle name of your sister, which Brother A hasn't mentioned
doing.
evile: And none of the names they proposed for girl or boy were any
of Brother A's family's names. It's rather offensive, really.
evile: You'll take our brother/son/nephew/cousin and you'll allow him
to become one of your harem, you'll accpt his semen and genetic
material, but none of his family's names are good enough for the
result thereof?
SkyeDS: nods
evile: And, if it's like Yummy's father, a 'sperm donor' type
situation, then she shouldn't be abusing his affectionate nature, she
should just be honest and treat it as a business arrangement, get
what she wants from him,and turn him loose.
SkyeDS: she'd never have him if she had.
evile: No, because Brother A has to believe he's in love to want to make a
baby....
evile: Oh well...I can't be stressing about shit I have no control
over. I am hoping that Kali or Morrigan will step in and eat Rubber_pig's
fetus...
evile: Maybe Rubber_pig, too, while they're at it.
SkyeDS: don't hold your breath.
evile: nope. I'm just going to turn it over to the Divine and try to
live my own life and not worry about it.
evile: between roninjedi's suicide threats (I'm upset by NIkiyoy & Onyxlynxx's
stress over it, more than concern for him), trying to get out of town
and simultaneously prepare for houseguests, and Brother A/Rubber_pig shit...I
just need to do what I can about the things I can, and drop the rest.
SkyeDS: I don't know M.
SkyeDS: I don't want to think badly of anybody, much less a stranger
SkyeDS: but I don't like what it's doing to K either
evile: I don't think badly of him, I think he's a good person, but
he's in a lot of pain, and it is NOT acceptable to take that out on
his loved ones. He needs professional help, and that's what I told
him. (well, ok, meaner than that--"get professional help or off
yourself, but quit hurting my friends")
SkyeDS: I don't think some people grasp the true meaning of kind and
compassionate in all situations
evile: That was tactful of you
SkyeDS: ?
SkyeDS: you lost me
evile: I assume I'm one of the 'some people'.
SkyeDS: no
SkyeDS: people who do not realize that what you said WAS the kind,
compassionate thing in that instance
evile: Well, thanks for that.
SkyeDS: you know the parable about the Emperor Moth no?
evile: I don't think so.
SkyeDS: man finds an emperor moth in a cocoon.
SkyeDS: it pokes its head out.
SkyeDS: for three days it makes no progress
SkyeDS: the man, trying to be kind, co mpassionate and helpful, cuts
the moth out
SkyeDS: it comes out with a bloated body and shriveled wings and then
dies
evile: sad!!
SkyeDS: the struggle with t he cocoon being necessary to push the
water from the body to the wings.
SkyeDS: you are not kind and compassionate when you enable those you
love to continue in unhealthy patterns
SkyeDS: you hurt them more that way
SkyeDS: frying pan/fire
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I think I do a lot of kind compassionate things. Others see
me as aloof and distant. They just don't get it/see it/understand.
evile: yeah. Ki said M was very hurt and offended by what I
said, and he now thinks I 'hate' him.
SkyeDS: anyway, the truth, unadulterated, bald, and from the hip, IS
kind and compassionate in some circumstances
SkyeDS: and some people just don't get it.
evile: She kind of rolled her eyes and said "whatever", so hopefully
that's a good sign
evile: Well...truth is a versatile tool, it's just up to us to learn
to use it the best way in each situation, and sometimes I find myself
using it as a sledgehammer when I should have been trying to use it
as a can opener....
SkyeDS: would he through his fog have heard a canopener.
evile: good point.
SkyeDS: and you know what? how long have some people known you?
SkyeDS: if you are known for the sledgehammer being your Weapon of
Choice (excellent video ~ Chris Walken dancing)
SkyeDS: then why should people be surprised?
evile: I haven't known either K or M for that long, either
one.
SkyeDS: I don't think it takes that long to figure that out.
evile: Well, I should try harder to be tactful. Not necessarily in
that situation, but in general.
SkyeDS: so should many of us.
SkyeDS: btw, I almost forgot
SkyeDS: you were right
evile: about?
SkyeDS: about my being overly harsh on sineater
evile: when?
SkyeDS: once again, I had right to be upset, and I handled it badly
SkyeDS: so I just wanted you to know, you were right.
evile: ??? Well, OK then...
SkyeDS: I think the last time was over the bugs.
evile: I don't recall saying you were overly harsh...maybe thinking,
but not saying. Your relationship dynamic is none of my business. If
you and sineater think the relationship is fine the way it is, none of
anyone elses business.
SkyeDS: ya
SkyeDS: you did say I was being very hard on him because we all make
mistakes
SkyeDS: and that was entirely correct
SkyeDS: besides, I could have just gone into town, gotten something,
and discussed the state of the kitchen with him when he got home. If
he got less sleep before work, so be it.
evile: *nod* Well, hopefully it wont' happen again, but if it does,
you've got a better plan for next time.
SkyeDS: yep
SkyeDS: but I need to give credit where it is due.
evile: Sometimes it helps just to change focus for a bit...
evile: It's possibly weak of me, but I decided that my objective is
to have a clean house, not for Sweetie to clean house. So, what's easier,
nagging, pestering, begging, or just picking up the damn cleaning
implements myself.
SkyeDS: ya
SkyeDS: lots of options I have.
evile: it's not fair, and eventually I may get sick of it and leave,
but..it's easier.
SkyeDS: clean kitchen myself from now on and forbid it to them if
they insist on messing up more than I can clean by myself
SkyeDS: I have mentioned that to them
SkyeDS: I can ask them to spend their resources to remedy the
problem, example, go buy dinner.
evile: When we all lived in the big house, we had rules that whoever
cooked didn't have to clean, and everyone took turns with both, and
there was lots of trading back and forth among the kids because some
of us didn't like to cook or clean
SkyeDS: right. that's what I grew up with. equal division of labor.
evile: I tried that with Sweetie for awhile, I drew up a little schedule
and he said "OK" and then it never happened.
SkyeDS: however, I damn well can expect that on days where sonar0m is
home, that he can contribute by doing chores.
evile: *nod*
evile: the main problem with me and Sweetie is that we both work and
neither of us has enough free time that we want to waste it on
housework.
SkyeDS: well, I'm not going to keep doing the same thing over and
over and expecting different results
SkyeDS: so I'll just keep petting them on the head and saying good
doggie while I look around for different sticks, and until I find one
that works.
evile: *nod*
evile: I found one that worked, but it made him so miserable that I
couldn't do it. I don't want to have to hurt him to get him to do
housework, that's not worth it to me.
SkyeDS: sometimes when I think about it, it isn't different than
training the horses.
SkyeDS: I give the horses no resistance win win choices
SkyeDS: you stand still for the farrier or you do two laps, doesn't
matter to me, either is good
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: so, I can't cook in a kitchen that looks like this
SkyeDS: so, the kitchen either gets repaired, or you go get dinner, I
don't much care
evile: yup
SkyeDS: bugs are not acceptable, and you promised not in the new
house.
SkyeDS: so you can get rid of them yourself or pay for an exterminator
SkyeDS: I don't care what you do, just do one
SkyeDS: they like to think they have free will and choices.
evile: and then realize that if the conditions under which the
insects flourished continue, they will come back...
evile: and you get to do it all again.
SkyeDS: yep
evile: Sweetie had to learn this with stuff on the floor. Clothes on
floor, cats will pee on, shoes on floor, cats will pee on, and
finally it got thru that you just dONT leave stuff on the floor if
you dont' want it peed on.
SkyeDS: so they do eventually learn, that's nice to know
evile: and it does no good to chase the cats thru the house yelling
and abusing them, YOU have to prevent the situation that makes them
misbehave.
evile: "abusing" god I'm getting as bad as aunt L.
evile: Cat's just don't respond to corporal punishment, it just makes
them angry and more likely to find something of yours to soil.
evile: Looks like the poly trip to the Trail of LIghts will be the
22nd, btw. There wasn't much interest--only 5 votes, and 1 was mine.
SkyeDS: what time?
evile: I was thinking to try and catch one of the first shuttles, 7
ish.
evile: Maybe everyone can meet up at Sholtz Garden and we can walk
over to the shuttle stop at 14th & San Jacinto
SkyeDS: sineater should probably park here at my office and we catch a
shuttle
evile: That's what I suggested, anyway, nobody's said anything. I
guess I'll let it hang out for a day or so and then post a final
Plan Friday or so.
SkyeDS: the shuttles are probably listed on capmet's page ya/
evile: *nod*
evile: I posted the link in the yahoo group post.
SkyeDS: thankee :)
evile: Okay, looks like Sholz Garden around 6, 6:15, then once we get
a gang together, take the shuttle down to the park. $2 is kinda
steep, but I guess it beats the hassle of driving down there and
parking for $, unless by chance you fight your way thru traffic and
actually find a free spot somewhere.
SkyeDS: it will be hard for sineater
SkyeDS: getting from Dell to downtown in rush hour = not easy
evile: yeah.
evile: Well, I've got nothing against hanging out and drinking beer
for as long as it takes for him to get there :)
SkyeDS: where is Scholz?
evile: where the witches ball is.
evile: was
evile: Sholtz's Garten, at 1607 San Jacinto Blvd
SkyeDS: saengerrunde hall
SkyeDS: ah that helps
SkyeDS: parking there?
evile: yeah, that's their party-rental room, but the restaurant & bar
are there too.
evile: There is some parking.
SkyeDS: ack
SkyeDS: I don't know any of those tv characters
evile: whose?
SkyeDS: the sex quiz, female tv characters
evile: oh, yeah, I think I said none of hte above.
evile: Rio's brother says I remind him of one of the Sex in the City
characters, but I've never seen it, so I have no clue.
SkyeDS: me completely clueless, never saw any of those shows
evile: me neither.
evile: well, time for me to head out. yay! :)
SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)
evile: I hope teh trooper is drive-able for polydinner :)
evile: *hugs*
SkyeDS: hugs :)
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