Jul. 6th, 2004

evile: (clutter)

    Jul. 6, 2004

     

    Tonight: dinner w/jaime? bi womens discussion group at Spider house ?
    sleep?

    Tomorrow: Tina appt & Krav Maga (no poly 1st wed, bummer)

    Thursday: NK! Cocktail Explorers- Malaga. & maybe Political Asylum
    afterwards?

    Friday: Maybe Political Asylum, &/or maybe OY fundraiser at Emos

    Saturday: clean house, 3pm: skate with Michelle. Maybe
    dinner/movie/ice cream afterwards

    Sunday: clean house, Roller Derby at 6 at Thunderdome. Bad Mapquest
    direx...a little worried about that.

    Monday: Krav Maga

    Tuesday: dinner w/ Jaime? PNo?

    Wednesday: Krav Maga

    Thursday: phone duty, poly dinner

    Friday: They Might Be Giants at Stubbs

    Saturday: GWNN party?

    Sunday: Poly Tubing in San Marcos ?

    Got an email from e. wanting to see Farenheit 9/11 on Friday or
    Sunday evening. I told her I was busy & asked if she felt like
    joining me.

    It briefly crossed my mind "Now, why didn't I invite e to join me
    before this?"

    And then I remembered "Oh, yeah, nobody ever comes to anything I
    invite them to."

    I am the cat that walks by itself. Whether it wants to or not.

    remember?

2345icq w/A

Jul. 6th, 2004 12:14 pm
evile: (clutter)

    Jul. 6, 2004

     

     

    evile: howdy :)
    SkyeDS: hola :)
    evile: Not a good day to come to work without my willpower--someone
    brought chex mix...

    SkyeDS: ruh roh
    evile: yeah.
    evile: If I can just stay away from that area of the room, I may be
    OK.
    SkyeDS: with me, it's smell
    evile: we have microwaves all over, so I have had to kind of learn to
    ignore smells. People usually burn stuff, so it's not hard to be
    grossed out instead of hungry when I smell their food.
    SkyeDS: I can't think of much worse than the pervasive smell of burnt
    popcorn
    evile: it's nasty. I go home with headaches some days.....oh well.
    better than eating the entire 4th floor.
    SkyeDS: I always feel guilty about the smell of anything I put in the
    microwave because Tonya and Eugene are subjected to whatever I eat.
    evile: *shrug* it's to be expected if you work near the break area, I
    guess. I've temped in places where there were rules about what you
    could and could not cook in the microwave.
    SkyeDS: old man Mersky got upset one day when in the kitchen I made a
    shrimp stirfry
    evile: I can see that, I guess.
    SkyeDS: and he stunk us out of the office one day because he had a
    little kitchen area all to himself and he microwaved three day old
    salmon
    evile: ew.
    evile: we used to only have 2 microwaves in the actual break room,
    but then someone brought one from home to put by her desk, then my
    unit went in on one to put back by the boss' desk, et c etc, and now
    we've got em everywhere. And nobody ever cleans any of them.
    SkyeDS: I loved the kitchen at the law library
    SkyeDS: full size fridge, two microwaves and a full size stove with
    oven
    evile: nice.
    evile: Little e is driving me crazy trying to get together when
    SHE wants to and see a movie SHE wants to see...I keep telling
    her "I'm doing __ on that day, want to join me?" and apparently she
    will have none of it. I dont' know why...
    evile: And this month's plans are even more eclectic than usual, so I
    don't know why none of them are of interest.
    SkyeDS: apparently one of my acquaintances in #politics on IRC owns a
    cafe on the lake. He invited me to bring the bird out to eat. He's
    close to Emma Long, where APD told me I could go riding.
    SkyeDS: looks cool
    SkyeDS: http://skishores.com
    evile: cool.
    SkyeDS: I'm still growing accustomed to this having plans months in
    advance for every single weekend
    evile: *nods*
    SkyeDS: I don't know why, it was always like that growing up,
    fronting a band and doing various academic and/or music competitions.
    SkyeDS: guess 10 years of being sedentary
    evile: After July I'll probably go back into Hermit mode again...I'm
    already freaking out thinking about all the people/places/things
    evile: I know i actually left myself plenty of quiet alone me-time,
    but it just doesn't feel like it at the moment.
    SkyeDS: I don't even know what i'm going to do with myself once CRW
    is over
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: ride in Georgetown on Sundays, I think, because that's one of
    my favorite parks
    SkyeDS: explore Somerville eventually
    SkyeDS: and there's Emma Long and Pace Bend
    evile: *nods*
    evile: Been to Emma Long, it's nice.
    SkyeDS: my friend's restaurant is like right across the road
    SkyeDS: his website is cool
    evile: that's handy.
    SkyeDS: he has a pet policy right on his webpage
    SkyeDS: and pictures
    SkyeDS: and movie nights and live music
    evile: nice :)
    evile: woops...I just posted something to the poly group that I meant
    to send to one person. It wasn't anything snarky, thank heavens :P
    evile: Was trying to send blake the wierdo a lead on a house.
    SkyeDS: some of us took up sign language in grade school
    SkyeDS: was an effective way to talk in class without passing notes
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: we thought we were clever
    evile: I wish I'd studied sign when I had the chance.
    evile: Well, I pondered some more and I guess maybe e is not
    interested in doing anything with me BUT the movie she wants to see
    anyway.
    SkyeDS: my mother once pointed out to me that I would have more
    friends if I actively cultivated them more
    evile: I was laboring under the apparently mistaken idea that she
    wanted to get together to spend time with me, but once I got that out
    of the way, it's clear that the point is to see the movie.
    SkyeDS: and then pointed out when I was trying to improve that, that
    I only did things I was interested in doing.
    evile: it's a 2 way street...
    SkyeDS: I'm not entirely like that.
    SkyeDS: I operate under the assumption that if we are friends, we
    have common interests, and if you do something you like, chances are
    if I try it I might like it
    evile: Well, look, within your sphere of interests, there are only a
    few choices a person can make if they want to spend time with you:
    HFS, SCA, Horses, Movies, Camping. And that's the options. If they
    dont like any of that, too bad for them.
    SkyeDS: actually, if we do things that I can do after work and not
    during the day on the week, I can be divorced from the rest of my
    baggage ;P
    evile: And, really, you find plenty of people who are interested in
    one/more of those things, so why go hunting in areas that don't
    interest you for more people to hang with?
    evile: you told me you are too tired after work during the week.
    SkyeDS: I like going to see the dancers, and perfectly happy if the
    boys and the children aren't there.
    SkyeDS: I am very tired.
    SkyeDS: but things like watching dancers isn't tiring. Skating,
    though, for example, is out.
    SkyeDS: I wish karaoke wasn't on a "school" night, would like to do
    that.
    evile: Me, I have about a bazillion interests and I find it
    difficult/impossible to believe that e can't find something in a
    list of 8 *completely disparate* things that she is interested in.
    evile: So the only conclusion I can come to is that the point of the
    getting together is not for the friendship but for 1 very specific
    movie that she wants to see.
    SkyeDS: that does surpass understanding. granted my understanding is
    limited and simple.
    evile: In which case, why keep trying to gte ME to go to it with her?
    Why not find someone else and just go to the movie....
    evile: *sigh* she hasnt' done or said anything egregious enough for
    me to justify blowing her off for the rest of our lives, but it's
    just so damned annoying to deal with her sometimes.
    SkyeDS: I annoy everybody on a regular basis.
    evile: I can see someone not being comfortable being invited to a
    group activity--like I won't invite her to NK or poly dinners but why
    the reluctance to do something with me one-on-one that I had already
    planned on attending all by myself, anyway?
    SkyeDS: dunno?
    evile: I labor under the delusion that if I can understand someone's
    behavior rationally, it will all just make perfect sense and be less
    hurtful. It really is a delusion.
    evile: And then after endless back & forth & various convolutions,
    she'll likely as not end up flaking out on me at the last minute,
    anyway. so what is the point. argh.
    SkyeDS: I don't deal well with people when I can't figure out their
    internal logic, when it isn't consistent even with itself
    evile: *nods* me too.
    evile: Or if I can't figure out what they want...that makes me fairly
    crazy.
    evile: For example, a friend saying "I haven't seen you in a while,
    we should spend time"...and then turning down/ignoring every
    invitation I extend.
    evile: come to think of it, e's not the only one of those...
    SkyeDS: which has happened a lot lately it seems like
    evile: WTF.
    evile: oh well. when all else fails, you drag your family kicking &
    screaming... :P
    SkyeDS: actually when all else fails, I take the keys and leave them
    at home
    evile: Just kidding. I would not invite family to something if I
    didn't really want to see them & spend time.
    SkyeDS: and when I get home, I get to listen to choruses of "but we
    wanted to go..."
    evile: heh. I get that too.
    SkyeDS: mmhm. bullSHEET.
    evile: heh.
    evile: Oh well. It seems e & I may have a 'date' after all. Now
    she wants me to assure her that the movie will still be playing by
    then. what. ever.
    evile: Yet another reason I can never see myself doing the poly thing-
    -too much of a logistical nightmare. :P
    SkyeDS: well yeah.
    SkyeDS: particularly if multiple SOs refuse to behave like family
    around each other
    evile: hard enough just to juggle life & friends with only one
    Sweetie in the picture.
    SkyeDS: for Valentine's I took sonar0m and sineater out to a movie. asked
    kaleon if he wanted to go, he said no.
    SkyeDS: so I slated time for him the next day.
    SkyeDS: and he was upset that it wasn't ON Valentine's day.
    evile: nice.
    SkyeDS: shrug
    evile: I can totally understand wanting 1-on-1 time with someone. But
    not demanding it every time you spend time with them...
    evile: "Enjoy what you can, not what you can't" as my friend Don so
    wisely said.
    SkyeDS: well, being obnoxious is not the way to induce someone to
    want to spend time with you at all, much less alone.
    evile: heh.
    evile: the bi womens discussion group is tonight. I know I know
    people in the group & would like to go just to say hi...but no real
    reason for me to be at that meeting. bi is pretty much a moot point
    with me anymore ...
    SkyeDS: Sweetie has not the average male fantasy of watching two women
    and/or participating?
    evile: nope.
    evile: he is very hetero mono vanilla.
    SkyeDS: sometimes people think they'll be ok with something, say
    they'll be ok with it, and then when they actually get to crossing
    that bridge, it doesn't work that way.
    evile: *nods*
    evile: that is why I suppose so much of poly relationships end up
    being talking instead of fucking :P
    SkyeDS: all longterm relationships eventually end up that way - when
    you get too old to be interested in sex anymore for example
    evile: well, but you don't have to constantly negotiate & renegotiate
    mono. the rules are pretty well instilled from a young age.
    evile: I don't distrust Blake, but I am kind of amazed that people
    are so trusting with their location info.

    evile: especially in the unsteady political climate we live in.
    SkyeDS: you're not supposed to have to negotiate and renegotiate.
    however, there are a lot of people who don't seem to be able to play
    by the rules no matter how well instilled they were.
    evile: But what if, like you say, you say "Oh, I won't mind you
    spending the night with so-and-so" but when it happens, you feel sad
    & jealous & upset. Does everyone just ignore your feelings and go on
    with the original agreement as written?
    SkyeDS: nope, have to renegotiate
    SkyeDS: just like you do when someone says "I'll keep myself only
    unto you" and then doesn't.
    evile: exactly. And I personally like it that poly has room for that
    whereas mono does not.
    SkyeDS: do you take them back or don't you
    SkyeDS: if you take them back
    SkyeDS: then you're renegotiating.
    evile: In mono, it seems that the incident is covered over and never
    spoken of, in most cases.
    SkyeDS: they say "men marry women hoping we won't change, and we
    marry men hoping they will" and we're both wrong.
    evile: heh.
    evile: I don't marry nobody.
    evile: have made a few dumb assumptive mistakes anyway. Oh well.
    SkyeDS: Kaleon said that I don't want him or sineater or sonar0m to find
    someone else, I want it all one way.
    SkyeDS: he feels that little details like playing by established
    rules are not worth discussing
    evile: he likes to push boundaries.
    SkyeDS: he should have been a lawyer
    SkyeDS: a trial or criminal defense lawyer.
    evile: too much work. you already told me how lazy he was in college.
    SkyeDS: he'd have paralegals to do his research for him
    evile: never would have made it thru a JD program, much less study
    hard enough to pass the bar.
    SkyeDS: well there is that
    SkyeDS: he would have to find a drive through diploma mill law school
    evile: even online classes aren't too slouchy. I had an online
    paralegal class kick me up one side of the street & down the other.
    SkyeDS: really?
    evile: indeed.
    SkyeDS: do tell?
    evile: *shrug* nothing to tell. signed up & paid for part 1 of a 6
    part class, failed miserably, sold my books on Amazon.com, The End.
    SkyeDS: I suspect the courses are getting harder because established
    paralegals are trying to shut the door behind themselves.
    evile: probably.
    SkyeDS: in other ways besides creating quasi-certifications through
    the two national organizations
    SkyeDS: what they'd really like is for a paralegal to have to pass a
    bar.
    evile: *nods* makes sense
    SkyeDS: right now, paralegal and legal assistant are catch alls that
    could mean any combination of experience, schooling or possibly none
    at all
    evile: yup.
    evile: I read an article a couple years ago that said TX was going to
    be hurting for paralegals & legal secretaries. Then came to find out
    that TX pays the lowest of any state for those services. duh.
    SkyeDS: and in Texas, Austin is even worse
    evile: If your paralegal cert. isn't like a state bar that keeps you
    practicing in one area, why NOT go where the money is?
    SkyeDS: paralegals here are lucky to get 40K and in Dallas we get 70K
    SkyeDS: yours truly is making less per hour than Kelly driving school
    buses, but oh well.
    evile: your boss seems very cool & you get a lot more flexibility
    than Kelly. Or me, for that matter.
    SkyeDS: yep
    SkyeDS: and I don't have the burden of a paralegal all day either
    evile: life's a series of trade-offs it seems...
    SkyeDS: I get to play paralegal now and again but mostly I'm not even
    legal assistant, mostly I'm secretary and receptionist
    SkyeDS: and underpaid for those things too, but I have lots of other
    compensatory perks
    evile: *nods*
    evile: Man, I am so ready for my nap!
    SkyeDS: I'm going to dump tack in a bucket of oil and go to bed the
    minute I get home
    evile: sounds like a plan. I don't know why Tuesdays are so much more
    tiresome than Mondays, but they are.
    SkyeDS: I haven't made up the sleep I lost Sunday night/Monday morning
    evile: *nods*
    evile: "John & John"...that's some bumper sticker.
    SkyeDS: grin
    evile: Edwards made a pretty strong showing in hte primaries, not too
    surprising.
    SkyeDS: lot of people thought it was going to be Hildebeast
    evile: I just saw a yahoo news story about a magazine that published
    Kerry/Gephardt. heh. oops. so much for scooping the rival press.
    SkyeDS: saw that, lol, too funny
    evile: yup :)
    evile: I went looking t the Krav Maga class schedule. no way I can
    get to an earlier class & go to m yhair appt and go to poly dinner.
    feh.
    evile: They have a level 1 at 5:45 a.m. on SAturdays, supposedly.
    jeez, that's hardcore...
    evile: well, it's about time for me to make my rounds
    SkyeDS: hugs, ciao bella :)
    evile: drive safe & get good rest tonight :)
    SkyeDS: thankee. you too

evile: (clutter)
 

2346icq w/sineater

 

    Jul. 6, 2004

     

     

    Sineater: that's it. we're going to move to mexico and be warlords.
    evile: we are?
    Sineater: well i am at least :)
    evile: Ok.
    evile: I'll only go if I can wear a funny hat.
    Sineater: better than staying here... i am pretty fucking disgusted
    with the country right about now
    evile: yup.
    Sineater: shit man, of you got the guns you can wear whatever the
    fuck you want
    evile: Okay. I just want to wear a silly hat.
    evile: I wanted to retire to Cozumel. I guess I could step up my
    plans, pre-emptively old-age-ify & bury Sweetie and off to Mexico...
    Sineater: i mean look at john ashcroft. boy looks like his mother
    couldn't dress him right, but nobody dares point out his lack of
    fashion sense
    evile: Geranimals? who can argue with Geranimals!?
    Sineater: -i- can, but that's bsides the point
    evile: heh.
    Sineater: me, i'm going to load up a guitar case full of weapons.
    Skye_ds will stun my opponents with her beauty and razor sharp wit
    (and a pair of desert eagles, of course)
    evile: I could be your Official Bureaucrat.
    evile: confound your enemies with paperwork in triiplicate.
    Sineater: and head torturer too if you want :)
    Sineater: same thing
    evile: heh.
    evile: how goes the job hunt, here in the US?
    Sineater: fucking sad. and unemployment hs run out.
    evile: oh, ick.
    Sineater: working on ebay auctions, and looking locally and in taylor
    evile: *nods*
    evile: the capital area job club has posted a lot lately, but no idea
    how useful any of it is.
    evile: none of it is anything I'm looking for, that's for sure. but
    I'm not technical at all.
    Sineater: haven't looked at them yet this week, we'll see
    evile: TWCs work search help is useless, i know.
    Sineater: sometimes stuff will come out, though the listings are
    often out of date

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2347Re: icq w/sineater

 

    Jul. 6, 2004

     

     

    evile: oopsie. that was rude.
    evile: this is my usual 'make rounds' time at work, so I need to go
    do that
    evile: & then get on home & suchlike.
    Sineater: looks like john kerry is going to be running with some half-
    assed psychic wannabe flake from scifi channel... they're going to
    talk to the dead ideals of the democratic party at fund raisers
    Sineater: ah, fun :)
    evile: *laff*
    evile: Do the Dems enjoy giving us voters such a bad time? vote for
    the nazis or the fluffyheaded breederpleaser morons? what the hell
    kind of choice is that??
    evile: Anyhoo..I gotta get gone. throw paper, sign out, catch bus, go
    home.
    Sineater: have fun
    Sineater: oh, and keep an eye open for used guitar cases.
    Sineater: big ones.
    evile: *hugs* love ya!
    Sineater: you too :)

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