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  From "jason" but I suspect it was actually written by u no who. It is
  very much her 'style'. All that stupid lawyer-talk mixed with
  insults. How stupid does she think I am?
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  I can now see that you must be either fairly young or fairly
  unscholarly, for if you were older or more learned then you would
  understand that words cannot stand on their own, at least not when
  used in an arguement or debate. The sources of those words must be
  taken into account, both the original source and the person relaying
  them. In the academic world your arguements would be considered
  opinion, and opinions must be weighed with knowledge of the source. I
  am sorry, but if you are unwilling to rise to the level that any
  serious debate demands then do not expect anyone, myself or
  otherwise, to be sway ed by your arguements. You are relying on
  persuasion and trying to cloud it in facts. Both are valid mean
  s to an end but only when sources and reputations are take n into
  account. I approach all debaes of this type as I would a court,
  or in the least as I would a thesis: First there must be a goal
  or belief clearly stat ed and then followed up with valid back
  ing. A lawyer cannot say to the judge 'here is the truth, you
  have to listen to me, it doesn't matter who I am, my motives aren't
  of concern.' I would gladly continue this debate, but only on the
  condition that you rise above the silly childish level of 'believe
  this because I say so, and who I am doesn't matter' because who you
  are does matter in a pursuasive arguement. Please feel free to
  continue writing, but this is the last intelligent attempt I will
  make towards your topic unless you meet my requirement also. If you
  do not then I will take it in the way it is presented, and that is in
  the form of a simple grade school conversation. Thank you Kaleon
  TrueNight MoonShae
  
  
  Insulting me will not change your circumstances. You are in the grips
  of a relationship which will destroy you. Question my sources all you
  like, I assure you they are valid and scholarly and I have cited them
  fully when applicable.
  
  Moreover, I do not believe it was J---- P---- who wrote this
  latest reply. Instead, I believe the person of whom we were speaking
  has taken over. Perhaps that person isn't even letting you (Jason)
  see these anymore. It would fit the patterns of behaviour as
  described in previous messages.
  
  This is my final attempt to open your eyes, and then I shall leave
  you to your fate. If you want to stand in the jaws of the beast and
  assert that Yes it is a beast, Yes it eats meat, and Yes it's eaten
  little boys just like you before, but NO, it's not going to eat you,
  so be it. If, at some point in the future, you wake up and become
  fully aware of the misery and abuse inflicted on you, remember the
  friends and family you have discarded to be with this person, and
  remember that they will be there for you if you call, no matter how
  many months or years it's been since she separated you from them.

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249Jen's thoughts re: lawyerly bs in last j note

[evile]

Jan. 15, 2002
Take it from me; if the judge considered the lawyer's
reputation or standing, each and every one of them
would lose every argument they ever made. Moreover, a
jury knows NIL about the lawyers who argue before it.
They aren't supposed to, for the very reason that it
might sway them.

UB was definitely the architect of that Escher-esque
staircase of prose. What tripe. What twaddle. What
utter garbage.

I understand your need for guilt-relief re: E.
However, I am sure that he doesn't blame you, or
anyone else, for getting into, and staying in, his
relationship with UB. He most likely isn't even close
to thinking in those terms. If he is, he blames
either her for deceiving him, or himself for not
seeing her real character before it was too late.

Don't blame yourself. I am sure it is hard not to,
when you saw her vileness so early, but nothing you
could have said would have persuaded E otherwise.
Nothing.

Finally, J sounds like a lame-ass git who is
getting exactly what he deserves. While there's no
doubt that she is manipulating him, because that's
just what she does, he is messing around with a
married woman. That situation is always fraught with
drama, deception, and hurt, into which he
*voluntarily* placed himself. If he didn't know
better, it is his problem.

E has free will, too, even if he only exercised it
to his detriment. Just be there for him, as you
always have been.

*hug*