Jun. 16th, 2005

evile: (clutter)
 

 

    Jun. 16, 2005

     

     

    http://www.livejournal.com/users/primalfire/21765.html

    primalfire (primalfire) wrote,
    @ 2005-06-15 18:18:00

    Giving It To Guru; Experience And Technique
    Recent experiences in life have taught me some major lessons. It is
    my hope to share both the lessons and the practical and applicable
    knowledge in a way to facilitate the growth of other souls.

    Often times we may find ourselves in very difficult situations, where
    our negative emotions, feelings of fear, anger and aggression,
    overwhelm our abilities to function optimally. These feelings can
    become so extremely burdensome as to even get in the way of
    EVERYTHING, casting a shadow over each aspect of our daily life,
    relationships, and internal growth.

    Such a time was just passed through by myself, and only with the aid
    of my personal Guru, both the external literal physical guru, and by
    establishing a connection to my inner guru, the Sadguru, also known
    as the third eye.

    While my personal experience may differ from yours, there are no
    doubts in my mind of how individuals go through similar experiences.
    Feel free to insert your own experiences and identifications where
    appropriate.

    Prologue, Dark Time of the Soul
    The scenario was like this: After a series of energetic events over
    the course of a week involving relationships with pretty much EVERY
    SINGLE important figure in my life, both family, work and `Love life'
    my personal energies were exceptionally low.

    My energies were so low that I was caught in a very, very dangerous
    downward spiral, one that started with cutting myself, and proceeded
    to intense self-hatred and self-loathing which has not been felt by
    myself for a decade. While not being suicidal, the thought started to
    cross my mind.

    This cycle reinforced itself through constant self-talk, mind
    reinforcing and pointing out every single aspect of me which is
    undesirable, unwanted, and not lovely. Granted, while there are
    personal aspects we all have and wish to remove, these aspects are no
    reason to dim the light of our soul. Nor are the shadow aspects of
    the self the entire aspect of our being, but when caught in the web
    of despair, our mind ONLY focuses on the disliked aspects, and often
    times may even use positive traits as weapons for tearing down the
    self.

    Attempting to communicate these feelings to other people didn't
    really help. There was a temporary relief, yet the pit hadn't been
    climbed from, and each attempt to communicate seemd to only cause me
    to sink deeper and deeper into darkness.


    Giving It To Guru
    The only person with whom my feelings hadn't been conveyed to was my
    guru, the literal physical guru. The role of guru is to help a truth
    seeker realize aspects of themselves, to be a non-participative
    witness, to shed the light of consciousness on what is happening
    within the seeker. The guru is one who has walked the path, who has
    true knowledge which comes only from personal experience, the being
    of truth known from direct involvement.

    Feeling no other alternative, recognizing the destructive pattern
    which had caught me, all which remained was to open up to him, to
    share these feelings. To trust in a moment of darkness, when there
    seemed no hope. It was an act of desperation, as pride, control and
    wanting to appear strong and capable have been difficulties for
    opening my heart up.

    During our communication, we shared my feelings and thoughts, mutual
    observations, and his personal experiences and techniques to remove
    oneself from such mind-traps. Part of the process was typed into the
    computer, another article which will be developed in depth.

    What follows is some of the basic information which broke my funk.


    Breaking the Mental Cycle
    The most important aspect of breaking the mental cycle is to WATCH
    and objectify the thoughts, but to not IDENTIFY with them. When
    feeling depressed, it is ok to feel those energies, as it is a
    literal energetic wave-length, but to start saying `I Am feeling
    depressed / sick / stupid / ugly' identifies the self with those
    energies.

    We are not any of our emotional energies, we have emotional energies
    and thoughts, but ultimately are not those thoughts or energies. Our
    aspect of being is much more expansive than that.

    Once we identify our being with those energies, our true Self becomes
    inhibited, disempowered, and has restrictions placed upon it for
    being able to move from the emotional pit.

    To stop the cycle, STOP THE MIND PATTERN. There are many ways to do
    this; Perform simple tasks to occupy your mind, immerse yourself into
    a task, feel the sensations of the body and breath, go dancing, just
    … DO SOMETHING other than sit around and thinking about how horrible
    you feel.

    Make NO attempts to rationalize, identify, fix, remove, work with,
    experience, hate or like these emotions and thoughts. Just, quite
    literally, FEEL the body and breath. The thoughts can pass, but only
    if you really let them, recognizing them as objects. Any rock, any
    object, can be immediately dropped, including thoughts.

    Any form of self-talk which involves the negative patterns ONLY
    REINFORCES THE PATTERN. No matter if you believe the mind-talk is
    fixing the issue, and is beneficial, flat out truth .. it doesn't
    help, but strengthens the issue, making it more and more tricky to
    resolve.

    One of the basic laws of the universe is: Energy Follows Attention.
    Any attention given to these dark patterns feeds them. Again, ANY
    attention given to negative thoughts and patterns gives them
    strength. This is very very very important to understand, as
    consciousness, and its budding fruit thought, is the literal
    foundation of 'physical' reality.

    So, DO NOT TOUCH, warning Will Robinson, Warning! Danger! Danger! Any
    thought, focus, attention, feeds these dark thoughts, reinforcing the
    cycle and drags you deeper and deeper, making it SEEM harder to get
    out.

    In order to address and resolve issues of the mind, emotional
    thoughts and patterns, only one technique works.

    Technique of Giving it to Guru
    Surrender it to the guru, give it to god, release it to the universe -
    - in other words, flush it down the cosmic toilet instead of playing
    with the psycho-mental poop. Whatever way you wish to call this, the
    essence of this technique is to SURRENDER IT, let it be.

    DO NOT TOUCH, for like a hot over burner, each time you play with
    these dark energies, your strength is sapped, and parasitic patterns
    are reinforced due to putting energetic attention into those thoughts.

    It really is that simple.

    And it happens INSTANTLY.

    There is no resolution in the future, only RIGHT NOW can these issues
    be dissolved.

    There are many ways to initiate surrender. Meditation, focusing on
    breath, concentration on body sensations, yoga, tai chi – any form of
    relaxation will help you surrender.

    What has worked for me, on that day and since, is to be in touch with
    my body, self-aware of my breathing patterns, and FEELING the
    sensations in my body. In addition, as aspects of myself which are
    not particularly desirable arise, my focus also goes to the third
    eye, Shiva's seat of integration, where all dualistic energies merge.

    Residing in the third eye provides witness awareness, lacking
    identification and immersion into the lower centers of emotional and
    mental turmoil. By giving it to the guru, SURRENDERING thoughts to
    the third eye, a distance is created whereby the dark energies
    are `other', and able to be absorbed into the energy body.

    Each time these reactionary thoughts and emotions arise, and we
    surrender them to the Sadguru, our energies become progressively more
    and more free, able to handle the additional subtler patterns which
    become revealed as we work through each top layer.

    It is kind of difficult for me to verbalize the way this feels, yet
    after doing this, and being steady with it for several days, it
    works. It really, really works. My energy body is waking up, and
    feels so strong at times that my physical body doesn't feel as if it
    exists. Keep trying it, doing it until it works for you.

    More techniques and observations on this and other things
    forthcoming. I feel as if a dark nightmare has been woken up from,
    and helping others to move through these kind of patterns and to
    improve the lives of others with knowledge, technique and support of
    practice has become a strong, almost overwhelming impulse.

    Feel free to ask questions, any and all inquiries are welcome.

    Thank you for reading this experience, my sincerest hope is it has
    helped you grow.

evile: (clutter)

    Jun. 16, 2005

     

     

    To: ravensloft_faire@yahoogroups.com
    From: "Skye DreamSinger" <
    Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 17:51:51 -0000
    Subject: [ravensloft_faire] Introduction: the Kumpania Peregrina


    How do, ya'll :)

    By way of introduction, I'm Skye, aka Bella L. Peregrina, Phuri Dai
    of the Kumpania Peregrina -- a troupe of Romany (Gypsies). I
    started out in Amptgard many many moons ago, and currently belong to
    the High Fantasy Society and the Society for Creative Anachronism.

    Our troupe consists of three Gypsies (sometimes more), two horses
    and a blue and gold macaw (and a partridge in a pear tree, j/k
    LOL). Our renfaire and event experiences include petting zoos,
    fortune telling, bardics (storytelling, song and dance), face
    painting, chainmail making and jousting (in addition to Mounted
    Parking Lot and Security Patrol).

    Is there still room on the Raven's Loft slate for performers or
    vendors?

    In service,
    Skye aka Bella

evile: (clutter)

    Jun. 16, 2005

     

     

    evile: whee! I nailed jello to a tree :) at least for now!
    Sharjinka: How did you accompish this miracle???
    evile: *shrug* years of practice, I guess.
    evile: stronger boundaries, for sure.
    Sharjinka: What happened?? (dare I ask!)
    evile: I really have no idea. She went 'away' after I offended her
    yesterday, so before I signed off, I told her "Look, we have a lot of
    pleasant interests in common. I think we should talk about those and
    stop bringing up topics that upset one another"...so far today it's
    been pleasant & I'm assuming we are all still on speaking terms.
    Sharjinka: That's cool. :-)
    evile: I'm glad. If nothing else it will make life easier for sineater,
    not to have to hear what a horrid bitch I am.
    Sharjinka: Wow! They have Horses for Dummies. I'm going to pick
    that up!
    Sharjinka: I hope so.
    evile: I really don't like the 'for dummies' books. I wish they'd
    call them 'for beginners' or something like that. I hate being called
    stupid.
    Sharjinka: Be careful though. This could be a troll trick???
    evile: possibly. My boundaries are up, and I am going to be mindful
    of enforcing them.
    Sharjinka: I know. I'm not fond of the titles. I remember I bought
    GRE for Dummies and the first page apologized for the title.
    Something like: if you're taking the GRE, you are obviously not a
    dummy. I really appreciated the apology. ;-)
    Sharjinka: I hope this boundary thing works. You don't deserve the
    kind of stress A dishes out.
    evile: I do think she's gotten sineater addicted to fighting and drama
    (if he wasn't already)...to some degree, maybe I am too. I am going
    to fight my addiction as long as possible and try to keep things
    light and positive.
    Sharjinka: I think she has influenced him along those lines too. He
    told me something once and I think he wanted a dramatic reaction and
    I told him I didn't know what to say or do....
    evile: I bet that threw him for a loop.
    Sharjinka: I told him I was surprised, but I didn't know what to
    say. He did say something that shocked me and my initial reaction
    was so much shock that I looked completely calm and rational.
    evile: good for you :)
    Sharjinka: Inside I was freaking out..... I couldn't really believe
    it.
    Sharjinka: Do you mind.....uhm....verifying it for me? It still
    bothers me to this day.....
    evile: go ahead.
    Sharjinka: Did he....really beat A until she had to be taken to the
    hospital??
    evile: no.
    Sharjinka: ???????? He told me he almost beat her to death. Did he
    not?? Why did he say something like that??????
    evile: That's the way she remembers it, and she's yelled at him about
    it enough times that he thinks that's what happened.
    Sharjinka: So what did happen???
    evile: When did he tell you this happened?
    Sharjinka: A long time ago and I kept it to myself because I didn't
    know what to say or how to react. It might have been almost three
    years ago or more.
    evile: about 3 years ago, she hit him in the face and he hit her in
    the mouth.
    Sharjinka: That's it??
    evile: there was a bit over 2 yrs at the beginning of their marriage
    when we were not on speaking terms, so I can't say what happened
    then. But no hospital incidents that I know of, ever.
    Sharjinka: I mean....you shouldn't hit people but he made it sound
    like hospitalization was involved.
    Sharjinka: It was just one hit to the mouth??
    evile: They were out at Barad Duin the next day, or later the same
    day, when she hit him in the face and he hit her in the mouth. His
    eye was red and swollen, her lower lip was busted
    Sharjinka: So....kind of an exchange of blows.....
    evile: basically.
    Sharjinka: Wow..... He really seemed torn up about it and he told me
    he was dangerous. I told him he wasn't.
    Sharjinka: I almost said she'd love you to believe that because guilt
    is an easy way to control someone....
    Sharjinka: But I didn't say it.
    evile: yup. He did feel terrible about it.
    Sharjinka: I could tell.
    evile: As far as I know the only other time they got into physical
    stuff where he hurt her was when she first started dating
    kaleon....maybe 8 yrs ago now? She lied to him a lot, tried to tell
    kaleon that sineater was abusing her and she needed rescue, and sineater tried
    to choke her. He got court-ordered anger management for that.
    Sharjinka: He might have been combining both to convince me he was a
    dangerous person.
    evile: *nod* it's that whole trollish 'subjective reality' thing.
    Sharjinka: It was somewhat confusing and of course, I am wishy
    washy....
    Sharjinka: I decided to approach it as a journalist. Without knowing
    all the facts for certain, I dismissed the incident. ;-) It was the
    only way I could think to handle it.
    evile: *nod*
    Sharjinka: I did log it away in the back of my mind and decided if I
    could ever figure it out later, I would. Thanks for clearing it up
    and sorry to bring up the negative.
    evile: it doesn't do any good to go point by point, day by day, X
    happened and then Y happened, and then Z happened...because it gets
    twisted up in the memory of the troll, to serve the troll's agenda.
    Sharjinka: I could see that by what he was trying to convince me of
    and I kept telling him I knew dangerous people and he didn't qualify.
    Sharjinka: ;-)
    evile: yup.
    Sharjinka: It was all very strange but I wouldn't let myself get
    pulled into it.
    evile: good.
    Sharjinka: But it did make me wonder. I've never struck a
    relationship person and meant it. I wrestle and play with them but I
    don't ever mean it.
    evile: nope, me neither.
    Sharjinka: So I was kind of shocked by the whole thing.
    evile: yeah. I wonder why he told you that.
    Sharjinka: I don't know.... Maybe to put me off because I was
    flirting with him and such.
    evile: oh, probably
    Sharjinka: When he wanted to just hang out as friends I told him yes
    and a couple weeks later he told me this.
    evile: December 21, 2002, is the exact date of the incident,
    actually, I just found it in my offline journal.
    evile: oops, 22nd. sorry.
    Sharjinka: Okay.... It may have been after the incident. He told me
    while we were riding the horses on a spring day, I think.
    evile: *nod* that seems pretty consistent with their patterns.
    Something happens, there is Story #1 about what happens,a nd as time
    goes on the story gets worse and worse and more and more dramatic.
    Sharjinka: I thought as much. I don't know that he believed what he
    was telling me and that stuck in my mind more than anything else. He
    knows how much I dislike exaggeration. ;-)
    evile: Well, I think it puts a strain on his mind to believe
    different things...but I think what he knows to be true all depends
    on who he's with at the time.
    Sharjinka: I know what you mean. I think he could tell I didn't
    really believe it and he dropped it.
    evile: *nod* He is not very fearsome...pretty easy to face him down
    and get him back to 'normal' interactions.
    Sharjinka: Yeah.....he was pretty quiet after that.
    evile: I've gotten so mean lately...when he calls me up and tries to
    romp on me for being 'mean' to 'skye' I just launch an attack right
    up front and he backs down, like, *immediately*. It makes me sad that
    he's so easy to beat up...and I hate to be like that...but I have
    told him again and again that I will NOT allow him to fight with me
    on her behalf.
    Sharjinka: It seems odd to me that he doesn't get it. Has he ever
    been violent? I think he wanted me to believe it and I just didn't.
    evile: as a teenager, I remember him knocking a couple of holes in
    walls, destroying some of his own stuff, and exactly *once* we got
    into physical violence. I hit him first, and he mostly tried to hold
    me off, without hitting me back.
    Sharjinka: I see. I thought so.
    evile: you'd have to push him VERY hard to get him to that point.
    very very hard.
    Sharjinka: I know there's a quiet rage but I don't think he has it.
    Sharjinka: Lots of folks are like that.
    Sharjinka: OMG....I just looked at the Batman Begins lead guy.
    evile: cutie, ain't he?
    Sharjinka: He's the kid from Newsies!!!
    evile: oh, really???
    Sharjinka: Damned good dancer.
    Sharjinka: Yes. Lead in that.
    evile: cool.
    Sharjinka: It wasn't a very good movie but dance scenes are so rare
    these days. I enjoyed it.
    evile: heh. It's been forever since I saw that.
    Sharjinka: I just noticed he was a cute dancing guy. Stuck in my
    mind.
    evile: yeah.
    Sharjinka: :-D
    Sharjinka: Cute dancing guys stand out. Any guy can act tough and
    fight. Real men DANCE! ;-)
    evile: Christopher Walken got his start dancing :)
    Sharjinka: I still have that video bookmarked and watch it once in a
    while.
    Sharjinka: It reminds me of Gene Kelly!
    evile: he's got the moves. I have a mad crush on him!
    Sharjinka: Christopher Walken or Gene Kelly??
    evile: Walken :)
    Sharjinka: Yep. Awesome dancer!
    evile: and such a hottie bad guy :)
    Sharjinka: Exactly!
    Sharjinka: Now...I'm going to have to watch his video again!
    evile: heeehee :)
    Sharjinka: I felt very complimented when JG said that he could see me
    dancing when no one is right. I do but NOT like that. Walken is
    just fantastic.
    evile: heehee :) I can see that!
    Sharjinka: I burst into dance on campus and freaked out the
    students. I don't think I care anymore who sees it.
    evile: good for you :) Welcome to the Goddess years
    Sharjinka: Does this mean I get worshipped and donations??? ;-)
    evile: sure!
    Sharjinka: Great! I need the money! ;-)
    evile: don't we all? dang it, I didn't win the lotto last night.
    Sharjinka: Darn.
    Sharjinka: I want to win the lotto! There's so much I could do!
    evile: me too.
    Sharjinka: :-D

evile: (clutter)
 

 

    Jun. 16, 2005

     

     

    evile: hey :) WB, finally :P
    SkyeDS: we have federal litigation going on in the Valley all next
    week
    evile: oof. yucko.
    SkyeDS: I am somewhat amazed that my head is still attached to the
    rest of me, boss had very bad day yesterday. thankfully not so bad
    today, yet.
    SkyeDS: the judge is in NM, Hugh asked to have venue set in Corpus,
    and they haven't given him a damn thing he's asked for
    evile: ick. sorry to hear that :(
    SkyeDS: yesterday was particularly bad because our one expert witness
    is trying to weasel out on us, which will destroy our case
    SkyeDS: I told Hugh we ought to kneecap him with a small handgun, he
    might find that persuasive.
    evile: wow...yuck.
    evile: And I thought I was having a bad day :P
    evile: that definitely puts things into perspective for me.
    SkyeDS: well, kiss today goodbye too (as a good day). No expert
    witness (which means we have in effect no case).
    evile: I'm sorry to hear it. That really sucks.
    SkyeDS: well, this too shall pass, eventually....
    evile: *nod* Just gotta hang in there until it does.
    SkyeDS: as I understand it we have the power of subpoena so I really
    don't know why we aren't using it
    SkyeDS: but mine is not to question why, mine is but to do or die
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I got behind on my work this a.m., and then somebody brought
    in a kid, and then they ordered pizza for lunch. So today is not a
    big production day for me so far.
    SkyeDS: what happened to no visitors including kids I wonder
    evile: *shrug* It's very selectively enforced.
    SkyeDS: nice (/sarcasm)
    evile: yeah.
    evile: Oh well. It does me no good to focus on stupid crap I can't do
    anything about i.
    SkyeDS: just two more hours and it's a pretty day out
    evile: yup. and hopefully Uncle Karma will pay 'em a nice visit :P
    evile: K/Mom and G/Dad kept complaining about how hot it was in
    Greencastle...nothing compared to here. Even leaving the house at
    6:30 a.m. this week, I've gotten sweaty on the way to the bus stop
    evile: this a.m. wasn't as bad as yesterday.
    evile: Poly dinner last night was nice. Lots of people brought their
    kids & they really seemed to enjoy the playscape. As always, I
    enjoyed wandering through "Food Disneyland."
    SkyeDS: was it at whole foods?
    evile: yeah, the new WF on Lamar. I got to talk to a guy who I
    originally thought was kind of creepy, but he's OK.
    evile: His wife bit someone and drew blood at a play party (without
    permission from the bite-ee), so I still think she's creepy. But he
    seems nice. Kind of socially awkward, but not a bad person.
    SkyeDS: ow??!
    evile: yeah, no shit. Everyone was kind of piled up and cuddling and
    then all of the sudden fuckin Fang of the South attacks!
    SkyeDS: blood = infection risk
    evile: exactly.
    evile: Plus..in what universe is it OK to pile on top of a bunch of
    people who are petting and cuddling and sink your teeth into the
    nearest leg?
    evile: 90-99% of the polys & kinksters (or, really, insert any
    subculture here) are perfectly normal, decent human beings, it's that
    last little percent that gives the rest a bad name.
    SkyeDS: so it wasn't even a roughhousing type play party
    evile: or, at least not the puppy pile that she intruded on wasn't a
    roughhousing type pile.
    SkyeDS: cuddle doesn't usually imply teeth
    SkyeDS: I mean, I love teeth, but not teeth and blood and cuddle
    evile: *nod* yup.
    SkyeDS: what universe indeed...
    evile: Oh well...chalk up another for the 'improving first
    impressions' pool.
    evile: all the same, I'm glad he didn't bring the wife :P
    evile: Robin was there with 2 kids. They were cute.
    SkyeDS: Brandy's joke about babysitting was funny, I can't remember
    exactly what she said but I remember bits and pieces about baseball
    bats (I think?) and bricks (definitely)
    evile: heh.
    evile: the playscape was great, the patio wasn't crowded at all, and
    there were enough kids that they kept themselves entertained very
    well.
    SkyeDS: will have to take the Boy there sometime
    SkyeDS: always happy to find new places to take the Boy, even happier
    when they have healthy options
    evile: It's a really nice place, good food, nice patio, great
    fountain.
    SkyeDS: fountain :)
    evile: it's kind of an in-ground, natural creek-looking thing, but at
    night it has neon
    SkyeDS: playground have slide?
    evile: 2, I think.
    SkyeDS: the Boy and his daddy have to have slides ;)
    SkyeDS: I would have been swinging on the swings at Youth Academy
    late afternoon/early evening while everyone else was on the slides
    but I nearly passed out from heat exhaustion as it was.
    SkyeDS: and sonar0m and sineater both brought scorpions back from the
    park :( sineater got stung by a red one, and sonar0m found a brown one
    (worse) in his backpack before it stung anybody
    evile: ouchies.
    SkyeDS: it amazes me some of the slides I've seen sineater fit into
    evile: heh. too cute. :)
    SkyeDS: I suppose, until he finds one that I need crisco to get him
    out of
    evile: heehee :)
    evile: I think either it was too hot yesterday or people just
    havent' discovered the upstairs patio, because it was basically us,
    and maybe 6 other people on teh whole upstairs patio.
    SkyeDS: I can understand the heat thing
    evile: they had those big box-fan looking swamp coolers and a tent up
    by the area closer to the elevator.
    evile: in the shade, with a breeze, it wasn't bad at all.
    evile: I still haven't been 'real' grocery shopping there...just
    wandering around staring.
    SkyeDS: alice in wonderland
    evile: *nod*
    evile: OMG< launchcast just played a sex pistols song I'd never heard!
    SkyeDS: and you only have an hour left to boot :)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: and now it's playing a Cradle of Filth cover of "No Time to
    Cry"....*happy sigh* I love my music.
    SkyeDS: :D
    evile: I think I'd go crazy at work without my tunes.
    SkyeDS: nodnods
    evile: I was thinking of writing about last night in my LJ, but ..eh.
    I wonder if it will make onyxlynxx more or less homesick to hear what she
    missed :P
    SkyeDS: lol
    evile: she is usually the one who writes up who was there and all of
    that.
    evile: hey! You added interests to your LJ info page :)
    SkyeDS: I did it the easy way, I stole everyone else's
    evile: I think that's pretty much how everyone gets started :)
    SkyeDS: doesn't nearly begin to reflect my true musical and literary
    interests but it is limited to 150
    evile: yup. me too.
    evile: it's always interesting to find commonalities with people when
    superficially you are very different.
    SkyeDS: the question being, are the similarities superficial, or are
    the differences superficial
    evile: heh. that's true.
    evile: kulilinei's got some interesting ones, stuff I've never heard of
    and don't know what the heck they are. I always mean to ask her about
    them, but I forget.
    SkyeDS: sticky notes to self are good, so is lookin up stuff online
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I'm more interested in what it means to her, rather than
    dictionary definitions. Ok, you're a buddhist
    (strega/catholic/shiite/unitarian/whatever) and I can look up
    principles and rules and bla bla, but how do you apply that to
    yourself, your daily life, etc.
    SkyeDS: some of that can be discerned from what she posts
    evile: *nod* yeah. that was just an easy example I cam eup with, but
    that's the kind of things I'd like to talk about, if i ever remember
    & we get a free minute to talk-talk..
    SkyeDS: hard to talk to everybody when the gatherings are so big
    evile: Or like, I say I like "yoga" but I don't do Peter-style yoga
    (fasting, vegetarianism, practice twice a day, etc.) so..I like to
    know what people mean by 'interest'. there's lots of stuff that I
    like but is not a crucial part of my daily existence.
    evile: it would be neat if you could 'rank' your interests, to show
    which ones were the closest to your heart and daily existence, and
    which were more like "neat stuff I like"
    SkyeDS: true
    evile: or like, you and I both list horses...but your interest is
    close to your heart and part of your life, wheras mine is "yeah
    they're neat"
    SkyeDS: yepyep
    evile: gives you avenues of conversation w/people, anyway
    SkyeDS: you could list them in order of importance if it didn't
    automatically alphabetize
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: some are so major they should have subcategories or give you
    more room to list
    SkyeDS: music, politics, religion, literature, for example
    evile: *nod* :)
    SkyeDS: everyone has those interests
    SkyeDS: so why not have a standardized checklist that people can use
    for those things and not count them towards the 150
    evile: that'd be more useful than 'tags' :P
    SkyeDS: or just not have a limit at all
    evile: I'm sure that'd get out of hand fast. :)
    SkyeDS: set up music, movies, literature, politics, religion and
    sports, put up to 150 in each, and then keep the current general
    miscellaneous to put 150 in
    evile: yeah..but then you've got people who just want to be able to
    look at 1 profile page and get a good idea of who you are...who don't
    want to go to several pages of interest lists. I think the idea is to
    keep it a 'snapshot' and if there's enough info there to interest the
    person, then they add you to their friends list and read entries.
    SkyeDS: that makes sense
    SkyeDS: mine are probably going to change every time I'm bored with
    nothing better to do
    evile: Or maybe that's why they get communities, so if you belong to
    X community, the interests of that comunity are likely to be 150 of
    yours.
    evile: *nod* I change mine out every now and again.
    evile: well, time for me to make my rounds w/paper.
    SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)
    evile: *hugs* have a good evening.

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