ICQ w/A June 8

 

3280icq w/A (not so bad)

 

Jun. 8, 2005

 

 

evile: Happy hump day :P
SkyeDS: and to you :)
evile: I'm still feeling run down, but not as bad as yesterday. I
guess I really needed all that sleep.
evile: Yesterday, I woke up at 6, called in sick, went back to bed
until 2:30 or so, got up and had soup and tea, then back to bed
around 4, then slept until 9. Awake again till 11, then slept through
to the alarm this morning. My ears are no longer on fire, just kind
of congested.
evile: Argoneric emailed me this a.m. and wanted Onyxlynxx's contact
info. he wants to ask her out.
SkyeDS: that would be awesome
evile: He seems like a very nice person.
SkyeDS: particularly in light of her own innate talent for the law
and interests and so on and so forth
evile: I sent her email to double check to see if it was OK to give
him her # and/or email. Until she gets back to me, I won't give out
her info.
SkyeDS: very good
evile: She did mention hoping he'd call her once he was back from
vacation...but I'd still rather be safe than sorry as far as giving
people her info.
SkyeDS: nodnodnod
SkyeDS: if I had been through what she's been through I would be a
nervous wreck worse than a skittish foal
SkyeDS: this gives her a chance to bask in the glow of getting what
she hoped for
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: and prepare herself for him to call
evile: If nothing else, he'll be a nice ego boosting interlude. Those
are always nice, even if they don't turn into anything long term.
SkyeDS: "people are in your life for a reason, a season, or a
lifetime"
evile: Uncle B made it through surgery just fine, bTW, and is in
recovery, soon to be a regular room.
SkyeDS: I'm sorry for temporarily misremembering, but what kind of
surgery was it? heart related?
evile: rotator cuff & a bone spur on the same shoulder.
SkyeDS: that's right, I remember now, because Mom had that same
surgery
SkyeDS: docs got on her case for carrying too many papers around with
bag straps just on one shoulder
SkyeDS: told her ideally to get an airport thing with wheels on
bottom or if she insisted on carrying them on her person to get a
backpack and to wear it on both shoulders properly NOT just on one
like the kids do.
evile: my mom had bursitis because of that...luckily it never went
beyond that.
SkyeDS: moms has bone spurs on her heels too, that she has yet to get
treated. they could do it with laser but she won't let them because
it would interfere with her taking care of dad and gramma
SkyeDS: I can see that, but I can also see that if it gets worse, and
she doesn't take care of herself she won't be in any shape to care
for anyone else, and will need care herself.
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: but I have learned from hard experience that brick walls do
not move with the force of one's forehead, no matter how repeatedly
applied
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: are you feeling better?
evile: some. Hopefully I'll be back at 100% by the weekend.
SkyeDS: fingers crossed
evile: [sister H] wants me to take her drinking for her bday
SkyeDS: a fine tradition :)
evile: It should be great fun.
evile: I chewed Nikiyoy's butt, BTW.
SkyeDS: one of my "eldest daughters" who is a very devout Christian
asked me why God put Nikiyoy in my life
SkyeDS: and I said, as far as I can tell, to test my resolve about
not responding to negative energies in kind
SkyeDS: this however, has not stopped sineater and Jubi from responding.
evile: She mentioned replying to your LJ post on Monday evening and I
was all like "Why would you do that???" and she really didnt' seem to
know...
SkyeDS: I wasn't a paragon of self control at that age (and still am
not now for that matter, you live and learn or you don't live)
evile: You are certeainly entitled to your reactions, and feelings,
but what possible good can it do to share them in that
fashion...*sigh* Anyway...I hate it when people I care about are at
odds, but that's just life. Not everyone is going to get along.
SkyeDS: I proposed to sineater and Jubi that the apology which they
seized on and ripped to shreads might be the best she was capable of
SkyeDS: to which they responded, well, it was snarky, and not very
truly apologetic at all, and she should know that
SkyeDS: but I think...and hope...that having said that, they will
stop there.
evile: she does not usually apologize, that I've seen....so yeah, she
was trying.
evile: I was just like "be constructive or keep it to yourself."
SkyeDS: Sometimes extremes really irk me
SkyeDS: now we've gone from me being all alone in the midst of the
fire to the Defend Skye Mafia
evile: you think it doesn't horrify me, make me sick and sad and
miserable to picture the way skyeDS and sineater have gone after each other in
the past? Of course it does...but it doesn't open any avenues of
communication with sineater and A for me to vent that to them.
SkyeDS: operative words being in the past but nobody should let
little insignificant details like that impede their judgmentalness
SkyeDS: and she just started a War with sineater.
SkyeDS: I talked him down out of starting a War with sharjinka, and
there is not a snowflake's chance in Hell that I can talk him down
off this War, he wants a War too badly.
evile: That's his choice
SkyeDS: and nothing I can do about it, in t he end, because it is
beyond my control.
evile: yup. His choice.
SkyeDS: there's a quote from some sort of assassin's handbook t hat
says something to the effect that you should not do what you cannot
undo until you consider the ramifications of what can't be undone
once you've done it
SkyeDS: words are especially like that, particularly once put into
print
evile: I've wasted a good deal of time, effort, and worry over things
that are not within my control, lots of them sineater's choices in life.
Giving up on that has been the best thing I've ever done for myself.
evile: I still love him, would kill or die for him...but I can't
protect him from himself and I can't make him do/say not-do/not-say
anything.
evile: His life, his choices.
SkyeDS: he took further umbrage over the word "seem" in the apology
SkyeDS: he just got through telling her what really is, in the here
and now, and she comes back with "seem," which to him implies that
she really doesn't believe what he said
evile: *shrug* nitpicking over sematics seems unproductive at this
point. she's apologized as much as she's going to. Kicking her
apology back in her teeth is likely to get an unpleasant response.
SkyeDS: which she will hopefully keep to herself, because if she
doesn't, I can't keep everyone corralled forever. Herding cats is no
easy task.
evile: You really dont want to chase a person into a corner after
they've submitted...you really really don't.
SkyeDS: he doesn't see it as submission, I can tell you that right now
evile: its like when Jinx wouldn't let you leave an unpleasant topic
and kept worrying at you.
SkyeDS: so the best thing to happen is that nobody says another word
to anybody else
evile: Eventually you bit her in the ass.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: the discussion I had with both sineater and Jubi last night was
this. I acknowledge that you don't like her apology. It wasn't the
world's best apology. Something tells me apology is not her forte.
It was probably the best she could do.
SkyeDS: and whether or not she intended to make it a snarky apology,
what difference does that make.
SkyeDS: whatever either of you do, I would say it to her face should
opportunity present itself and you haven't gotten over it
SkyeDS: but don't put it in writing
SkyeDS: I got overridden - as is evident.
evile: I imagine she is far more crushed by the idea of losing my
friendship or having me disappointed in her than she is by any
threats and goings-on from your camp.
SkyeDS: their consensus was, if the snarkiness of the apology was not
intended, she needs to know that, otherwise she will never improve
SkyeDS: truthfully I don't care what crushes her. I'm not out to
crush anybody, a nd I don't want anyone else crushing anybody on my
behalf.
evile: Because she knows me RL and we are freinds RL, as opposed to
just reading y'alls LJ's
SkyeDS: my hope is, that everyone has got everything all out of their
systems now, and we can all stay out of any kitchens where we don't
like the heat, and move forward following our own individual bliss.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: sineater and Jubi are acting out of love for me - that's the only
observation I have left to make
SkyeDS: I would suspect, that had the shoe been on the other foot,
and I had been foolish enough to launch what was perceived as an
attack against NIkiyoy say at your party that I would have received a
similar but even more intense response.
evile: *shrug* No tellin.
evile: I'm glad the party wasn't worse than it was.
SkyeDS: I feel comfortable enough in that assessment to wager a large
sum on it
SkyeDS: it's called loyalty.
evile: well, I'm never having a party where we'll be finding out, OK?
SkyeDS: ok, edit that
SkyeDS: move it to Ladies Night or any other public gathering that
was composed mostly of her friends and me by myself
SkyeDS: point being, it's about loyalty
SkyeDS: and apparently now t here are those who are as fiercely loyal
and protective of me, as there are of others around me
evile: it's about calling people on their shit. I love Nikiyoy and she's
my friend, but she did wrong and I told her so.
evile: I don't see that as disloyal. Sometimes friendship involves
telling the hard truths
SkyeDS: I know it, and I admire your ability to do it. I've done it
to the best of my ability
SkyeDS: in telling sineater and Jubi that I appreciate the loyalty, but
that it might be better to express said loyalty in other ways
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I still think the best thing to happen is just not fire
another shot. Because this could easily turn into Israel and
Palestine, to the detriment of all involved.
evile: possibly. You're not mad at me and sineater's not mad at me,a nd
that's all I really give a shit about at this point.
SkyeDS: that's a good thing
evile: I dont' really know where Jubilee got all of this 'your
informant' and 'the next one of you" bla bla, but if she's lumping me
in with the vast anti-skye conspiracy, I want no part of that crap.
evile: I mentioned HFS to my cousin B and wanted to take him by the
park some Sunday to meet people his age, but if you and yours are
going to be shunning me or Im on some kind of shit list, I'd rather
skip it & take him to D&Bs instead.
SkyeDS: I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have never treated
anyone badly unless I was defending myself from said personage
treating me badly in the first place.
SkyeDS: I'm not interested in wars at HFS. I left Drandmir once to
avoid email wars.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: If wars erupt around me, I can't control them. I'm not going
to run fromt hem. But why the hell would I start one.
evile: so the last time I showedd up to the park, I got the cold
shoulder because Kim talked to me, or because I was there with Nikiyoy?
SkyeDS: sineater was under the impression that we were the ones receiving
the cold shoulder, he may have been responding to t hat, I can't
answer for him
SkyeDS: I waved, but I don't think you saw it.
evile: Ok. I just want some idea of what the ground rules might be so
that I can attempt to keep my behavior in acceptable parameters.
SkyeDS: sineater, btw, is already well cognizant that I can't stop him
from having his own personal war with anyone
SkyeDS: but it isn't going to happen publicly
SkyeDS: especially not with the horses and bird
SkyeDS: the horses and the bird require emotional control, and if he
doesn't have it, I WILL send him away far enough that he can't put
anyone Children included in harm's way.
SkyeDS: I hate to sound draconian, but that's the way it has to be.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: that i ncludes me. I drag myself away when I'm not in
control, just as soon as I can find someone trustworthy to leave in
control.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: everyone I care about and who cares about me also have a deep
and abiding desire to take the moral high ground, so I want to say
with some assuredness that the salvos fired across bows should stop
here
evile: hope so.
SkyeDS: reason I didn't initiate conversation with you about it was
because I didn't want to be seen as adding salvos to it
evile: *nod*
evile: it was between nikiyoy and you, in my opinion.
SkyeDS: and I wanted it to stay there. and done with.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: so we're all good right? :)?
evile: hope so.
SkyeDS: me too.
evile: it's unfortunate that people we like don't get along with one
another...but it shouldn't be a deal breaker between us and the
people we do like.
evile: I just got kind of defensive when I saw Jubilee drawing up
an 'us vs them' battlefield, because I could very easily see myself
becoming a 'them' to you or her, and I don't want to be a 'them'

3281Re: icq w/A (not so bad)

 

Jun. 8, 2005

 

 

SkyeDS: damn trillian
SkyeDS: "defensive" is the last comment I have here.
evile: I just got kind of defensive when I saw Jubilee drawing up
an 'us vs them' battlefield, because I could very easily see myself
becoming a 'them' to you or her, and I don't want to be a 'them'

SkyeDS: right. that's the last I got.
evile: that's the last thing I wrote.
SkyeDS: I had to close trillian, reopen it, a nd almost had to reboot.
SkyeDS: I look like the vestiges of pepperoni pizza where all the
bugs got after me at Duke's, their yard is real bad bout it, and I
sprayed myself head to toe with Deep Woods Off twice.
evile: ouchies.
SkyeDS: Is there anything besides a permanent mosquito system that is
portable that could be taken to protect an entire backyard type area?
SkyeDS: that wouldn't cost a mint?
SkyeDS: I remember those coils you brought to Bull Creek that one
time, would we need how many of those for an entire yard or is there
something better when dealing with that large an area?
evile: *shrug* I've seen these plug in things at costco, I have no
idea if they work.
evile: You'd probably have to read the box to see how much of an area
each coil covers.
SkyeDS: I was wondering if those lamp thingies worked, and how many
I'd need, and whether or not Duke's would let me plug them into
extension cords if they don't work on batteries. I would hate to
give up Duke's for the summer but I can't stand the mosquitos anymore.
evile: I hear ya. Mild winter & a wet spring, I knew the bugs would
be bad this year.
evile: I'm almost done with my quota for today and it's only 2:30.
Pacing myself becomes a challenge some days.
SkyeDS: I have a new intern
SkyeDS: I didn't want an intern
SkyeDS: first i have to find things for him to do and then I have to
look busy while he's here
evile: oh, yucko. sorry to hear that.
SkyeDS: boss's daughter's boyfriend, because his daddy twisted Hugh's
arm.
SkyeDS: he didn't want to work in daddy's warehouse this summer, or I
suppose, get another real job.
evile: aha.
evile: I've got so much to do before I get out of town...I wish I
could leave work now.
SkyeDS: "I just threw up, I need to leave"...?
SkyeDS: don't know it's worth it for 45 min tho....
evile: nah.
evile: I can do stuff after I feed the cats today. Maybe before/after
poly dinner Thursday, then I have phone duty Friday, so I will have a
few hours between getting home and going to see Margaret
Cho,hopefully that'll be enough.
SkyeDS: love her
evile: me too :)
evile: think I'm going to go dig in the supply closet for a while,
see if I can find anything good.
evile: I am totally out of stuff at my desk to help me look busy.
evile: *hugs* See ya later.
SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)