May. 24th, 2005

evile: (declutter)

    May 24, 2005

     

     

    --- sineater wrote:


    Thank you,

    sineater .


    =========================
    -----Original Message-----
    From: evilE
    Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:38 PM
    To: ., sineater
    Subject: Re: Yo!

    Short, sweet & to the point, eh?

    You're welcome :)

    As always when a gathering exceeds a certain size, I
    don't feel like I got to visit enough with everyone, but I hope you
    had a nice time.

    Love ya, bro!

    =========================
    --- sineater wrote:
    Had a good time, though sounds like I missed the fun
    stuff ;)
    Had a question for you, not sure how to ask it
    though
    =======================================

    Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT)
    From: "evilE H"
    Subject: RE: Yo!
    To: sineater


    I figured something was up; you don't usually write or
    call just to say hi. :P

    Ask away; I reserve the right to say no and/or
    respectfully decline to answer, as any thinking adult
    is free to do. :)

  •  

 

3237Re: bullshit w/sineater re: 'snarking'/'egging on', I suspect.

Expand Messages


 

  •  

     

    E

    May 24, 2005

     

     

    --- sineater  wrote:
    Well of course, turkey-butt. :P
    Have I done anything to piss ladydreamtime or Nikiyoy
    off? (Or did I just have really bad BO yesterday? *snf snf*)

    ------------------------------------------
    -----Original Message-----
    From: evilE
    Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:51 PM
    To: ., sineater
    Subject: RE: Yo!

    Is there a specific incident you are referring to,
    or some general
    'vibe' you just picked up out of the ether?



    -- sineater wrote:
    Nah just a vibe I guess
    *bzzzzzz*


    Subject: RE: Yo!
    Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:54:21 -0500
    From: sineater
    To: evile


    I'm just paranoid :(


    ===============
    Me to sineater:

    FWIW:

    ladydreamtime is not very touchy-feely with anyone, she doesn't often show up
    to things alone or sit and visit for very long, and she's not
    inclined to sit and listen to anyone go on about things that don't
    interest her for any length of time. She likes BDSM and Musicals and
    Theatre, and that's what she'll talk about at length, and not much
    else. That's just her way, so if that's the way she treated you,
    that's the way she is.

    Nikiyoy may have been acting protectively towards Onyxlynxx. I noticed that
    you were being a little handsy with Onyxlynxx, and Onyxlynxx didn't seem 100%
    comfy. But I don't know if she was uncomfy with YOU, or because it
    was a larger crowd than she's used to, or what. Since Onyxx didn't
    actually SAY anything, I didn't take any action, but Nikiyoy is a bit
    more sensitive about such things due to her own experiences and may
    have been acting from that.

    Hope that helps.

     

 

3238Re: bullshit w/sineater re: 'snarking'/'egging on', I suspect.

Expand Messages


 

  •  

     

    E

    May 24, 2005

     

     

    Subject: RE: Yo!
    Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:04:32 -0500
    From: sineater


    Ah ok. Glad to know I didn't smell bad... I'm sorry if I made Onyxlynxx
    uncomfortable. I know she's going through some rough shit, guess I was
    overcomforting. I will extend apologies. Nikiyoy didn't seem so much
    protective as just crabby. I wanted to ask who peed in her Post
    Toasties, then thoguht better of it. And sorry, didn't realize I was
    being too touchy feely. Everybody was hugging me... Especially the
    men.
    Umm... K...

evile: (clutter)

    May 24, 2005

     

     

    evile: Made it home safe, I take it?
    SkyeDS: no. lol.
    evile: no?
    SkyeDS: j/k
    evile: Oh good. I was afraid you were going to say you'd had a fender
    bender or something.
    SkyeDS: sineater talked to me the whole way to keep me awake.
    SkyeDS: I wasn't sleepy but it made him feel better.
    evile: that was nice of him
    SkyeDS: it was, because he doesn't like using the phone except as an
    exchange of information.
    evile: *nod* me too.
    evile: Did y'all have enough fun? I don't remember sineater saying 'bye
    to me before he left, but I did overhear him saying 'bye' to someone
    else.
    SkyeDS: I probably should have left when he did, but as usual I can
    resist everything but temptation.
    evile: I worried that you'd be too tired to drive safely, but you're
    a grownup, so I didn't nag.
    SkyeDS: nope, was wide awake
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: reason why I drank one glass of sangria immediately and a sip
    of port and stopped there
    SkyeDS: and no food
    SkyeDS: food = food coma
    evile: Oh, Ok then.
    SkyeDS: I hope I wasn't too much of an embarassment
    evile: I don't think so.
    SkyeDS: well, if you think I carried myself well, then I will go with
    that.
    evile: I noticed that you started out doing the nervous motormouth
    thing, but once that passed, I think you were fine. :)
    SkyeDS: you used to say the same thing about Chance.
    evile: *nod* i think a lot of people do that, it's pretty normal.
    SkyeDS: you revised your opinion of Chance, which you don't do, very
    often.
    evile: *shrug* I'm trying to get better about that.
    SkyeDS: did I pass the snarky bitch test?
    evile: I don't have any idea; we're not a hive-mind, as much as it
    might appear to be so from a distance :P
    SkyeDS: I was very happy to meet kulilinei, ladydreamtime, argonarcher and Katy's man
    whose name I forgot with the talking stick :(
    SkyeDS: Nikiyoy says we've met many times before but I don't remember
    SkyeDS: somewhat bothersome that I am more memorable to her than she
    is to me
    evile: *nod* At least one poly dinner that I know of.
    SkyeDS: I've only been to two.
    SkyeDS: two does not "many times before" make, imo.
    evile: Possibly some PNO or CMA thing? I dunno.
    SkyeDS: won't be the first time someone remembers me and not the
    other way around
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: sineater is on phone
    evile: OK
    SkyeDS: he asked me to ask you if there was anyway he could call you
    on your cell phone while you're at work or what
    SkyeDS: since he can't IM
    evile: I am not free to talk openly at work, due to coworker
    nosiness. Can he msg me via email, or LJ, maybe?
    SkyeDS: he says email works :)
    evile: Plus my cell is only 60 minutes a month, so I don't really use
    it for 'conversation' type stuff.
    evile: I check my yahoo email several times a day.
    evile: Other than what you see in LJ, and a nice emailed 'thank you'
    from argonarcher, there hasn't been much other conversation about last
    night. I guess that means it went well.
    SkyeDS: was it not obvious?
    SkyeDS: I thought it was obvious...and I'm dense.
    SkyeDS: I'm also on the verge of retreating into cave/well/hermit
    phase, I think. I can feel it pulling at me, hard.
    evile: I'm just waiting for someone to complain about something or
    mention something that someone did that made them uncomfortable.
    SkyeDS: you want to know or you don't want to know
    evile: Of course I want to know. Unless it's something about the
    weather, which I had no control over.
    SkyeDS: and I haven't read LJ today, Hugh is litigating and that puts
    him in a bad mood and means that I have to toe a line
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: what if some personal discomfort had nothing to do with you?
    and might have been a personal problem that just needs resolving
    personally
    SkyeDS: ala Ruiz #2 (Don't Take it Personally)
    SkyeDS: and of course, I can't speak for anyone but myself (including
    of course, sineater)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: The thing that killed me about the picnic in the park (My Last
    Party, officially) is that people complained afterwards about the
    heat, dirt, and bugs. None of which are anything I could do anything
    about--it was an outdoor party, these things exist outdoors.
    evile: But if the food was unpleasant, or one of the guests did or
    said something impolite, that's something I could at least attempt to
    remedy.
    SkyeDS: I'm not sure whether to take some of the snarks as aimed at
    me personally or not
    SkyeDS: I decided under #2 not to
    SkyeDS: until snarkster started bragging about double bitch points
    for snarking at someone's face and getting away with it because
    person was so stupid they didn't know they were being snarked
    evile: I don't know who/what you're talking about, so I can't really
    help you with the judgement on that
    SkyeDS: and I restrained myself to pointing out that there is such a
    thing as not being deaf
    SkyeDS: but deliberately ignoring
    SkyeDS: because this whole snark thing, when someone is snarking
    someone present, seems damned if you do and damned if you don't.
    evile: When Nikiyoy was talking about snarking the new BF's ex?
    SkyeDS: the right thing, I am convinced, is to ignore
    SkyeDS: no, when she was snarking at me.
    evile: I didn't hear it.
    SkyeDS: but then if you ignore, they give themselves double bitch
    points
    SkyeDS: which I suppose one should also ignore
    evile: I have no context to judge whether or not your perceptions
    mirror the actual events.
    SkyeDS: because if you say, hey, I know you're doing it, I'm not
    stupidly oblivious, I'm ignoring you, because you aren't worth a reply
    SkyeDS: then that's a mistake too
    SkyeDS: sineater asked me what happened with her last comment about
    jousting and whether or not you were egging her on
    SkyeDS: and I've already told him, I'm not even going there
    SkyeDS: I didn't hear it
    evile: Who said what to whom in what reply?
    SkyeDS: I'm not going there, I'm not getting into it. I'm going to
    handle my side of things, myself.
    SkyeDS: I've already stated, I'm not sure if my perception was right
    wrong shared or whatever.
    evile: Like I said, we're not a hive mind. There are people I dont'
    like that others in our group do. There are people I like that others
    in the group do not.
    evile: I think we have a general agreement that if it's your house,
    you invite who you like and if others have a problem with it, they
    need to be polite and respectful regardless of personal feelings.
    evile: The only thing I remember hearing from Nikiyoy was talking about
    snarking her new boyfriends GF.
    SkyeDS: the whole entire reason I didn't even want to mention this is
    because you said before you didn't think I could handle the snarky
    bitches and I don't want you using this as reason to think you were
    correct.
    SkyeDS: I think I handled it just fine.
    SkyeDS: there were several snarks that I weren't sure were aimed at
    me particularly until the very end of the evening
    SkyeDS: and I may still have been wrong.
    SkyeDS: so I liked my response just fine, because it was suitable
    whether it was personal or not
    SkyeDS: which was to tell her, just because people don't react to you
    snarking them to their face doesn't mean they don't know you're doing
    it, it means they're choosing to ignore you, because your snarks
    aren't worth the effort.
    evile: Well, I'm glad you didn't get ugly and/or let your fears
    cause you to leave early, anyway.
    SkyeDS: I hsould have left when sineater did because of work
    SkyeDS: and because those who like to poke at me like to do it when
    he isn't around
    SkyeDS: but I made that decision and I lived with it just fine
    SkyeDS: even if I am falling over sleepy now
    evile: *shrug* I didnt' see it. Nikiyoy is young and a bit sharp, I
    really wouldn't take her personally.
    SkyeDS: I'm trying not to.
    SkyeDS: sineater thought she seemed unhappy and poky at eveyrone and
    everything all night long.
    SkyeDS: I completely agree with that assessment.
    SkyeDS: I have this feeling of why me, what the hell did I ever do to
    her?
    evile: And if you were perceiving me as 'egging' anyone on, that is
    flat out incorrect. I was trying to have a nice time and see that my
    guests did so as well.
    SkyeDS: that because it isn't logic, it's an emotion, isn't going to
    be reasoned with.
    SkyeDS: egging on = his perception, not mine
    SkyeDS: I have no opinion about that one way or the other.
    SkyeDS: I will deal with the why me, what the hell did I do to
    deserve that shit, on my own, because it's my shit, and I'll own it
    SkyeDS: and that's the reason I didn't even want to say anything
    SkyeDS: and only said something because I don't want it laid at my
    feet that I didn't say anything and should have.
    evile: I was making conversation & trying to keep things light and
    pleasant. I have absolutely *zero* interest in making people unhappy
    and causing fights among my friends and loved ones in my home.
    SkyeDS: if people don't say things, it might be because they don't
    want to upset you, and they're trying to take responsibility for
    their own shit.
    evile: My hostess persona gives me a good out. When people start to
    say anything boring, tactless, or needlessly self-aggrandizing, I
    just find something else that needs my immediate attention.
    SkyeDS: I don't like the place I'm in right now at all
    SkyeDS: if I say something I'm wrong
    SkyeDS: if I don't say something I'm wrong
    SkyeDS: and all I want to do is own my shit, learn from this obstacle
    and further myself along my path of intention
    evile: You are the one sticking the 'wrong' label on yourself. I am
    not doing or saying anything, because I didnt' see or percieve what
    you did.
    SkyeDS: I mean wrong in saying anything to you.
    SkyeDS: ie, saying something to you is wrong, not saying something to
    you is wrong, and all I want to do is deal with the feelings and get
    them out of my system
    evile: You are still teh one applying the 'wrong' label. I am just
    here.
    evile: You have the right to your feelings. Not all of my friends are
    going to get along with all of my other friends. If you don't like
    Nikiyoy and feel that she was being deliberately abrasive towards you,
    that is your perception and welcome to it.
    SkyeDS: I didn't want to say anything because a) I might have
    misperceived and b) if I didn't misperceive, it's still my situation
    to handle, and I don't want to involve anyone else.
    SkyeDS: but I know you get upset when you feel like people horde
    things to throw at you later
    SkyeDS: and I ahte that too
    SkyeDS: and I didn't want to do that
    SkyeDS: or be perceived as doing that
    SkyeDS: so I'm saying, this had nothing to do with you.
    evile: I really wouldn't take Nikiyoy personally, if I was you, or let
    her bother you for too long. I don't know what was said or in what
    context, if I was there I didn't see it or hear it the same way you
    did because Nikiyoy and I are much closer friends than you and she are...
    evile: her sense of humor is sometimes abrasive/cruel. I really don't
    think she means anything by it.
    SkyeDS: I can't stop you from thinking that I can't handle snarks
    aimed at me
    SkyeDS: if they were truly aimed at me, I handled them just fine
    SkyeDS: and if they weren't aimed at me, then it says nothing about
    whether I can handle them aimed at me or not.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and for the record I've already told sineater if he wants to know
    anything that was said outside of my earshot he'll have to ask you,
    I'll be no part of it.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I don't want to go there (you know where there is) again,
    anymore than you do, believe me.
    evile: Honestly, you aren't really a topic of conversation as much as
    you might think/hope. We do have other things to think and speak
    about.
    SkyeDS: you can scratch hope
    SkyeDS: being topic of conversation = usually bad
    evile: Like, wer'e not going to get together next Monday and take
    votes on who likes skye, or anything like that...really, truly,
    that's NOT what we're about
    SkyeDS: that's not my perception. Have already said, I know when
    shit's my shit, and I'm dealing with it.
    SkyeDS: I just don't want to be accused of not saying things when I
    should have.
    SkyeDS: when I've thought I should say something, I got burned
    SkyeDS: when I've thought I shouldn't say something, I got burned
    SkyeDS: so I'm about at the place where I'm going to do what I damn
    well please because I"m going to get burned regardless
    evile: Bottom line: If you feel you handled snarks that were aimed at
    you with dignity, then you need to quit sticking the 'wrong' label on
    the interaction.
    SkyeDS: I will assume if you perceived that I acted with less than
    dignity you would say so
    evile: And if you think I did or said something deliberately
    offensive, let me assure you I did not. I was seeking (and mostly
    think I had) a pleasant evening at home with friends & loved ones.
    evile: Stirring up shit between people I like is not conducive to
    having a pleasant evening at home, therefore I didn't do it, and
    wouldn't do it.
    SkyeDS: I didn't think otherwise
    SkyeDS: what anyone else thinks = not my problem
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: even if that person is "close" to me
    SkyeDS: I am applying the "wrong" label to whether or not I should
    say something to you about my feelings about the whole thing when you
    ask
    SkyeDS: and I'm at the point right now where if someone else is going
    to apply that label to me no matter what I do, well, I can't do a
    damn thing about that, and there's no point in even trying anymore.
    evile: *shrug* You told me your thoughts/ feelings, my resulting
    thoughts/feelings are my responsibility.
    SkyeDS: I think there are questions people shouldn't ask because they
    really don't want to know the answers
    SkyeDS: but, a direct question deserves a direct answer.
    evile: Well, I knew that eventually someone was going to come up with
    a reason why last night wasn't as fun as I thought it was, better to
    hear it now from the person involved rather than later.
    SkyeDS: if I wasn't having fun I would have left pretty soon after
    sineater did
    SkyeDS: the balance of the other personalities was much more
    important to me than just one other
    SkyeDS: Kulilinei did not look in person much like her LJ icon, her LJ
    icon does not do her justice
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and that's the first time I've had teh chance to meet Argon
    Eric
    SkyeDS: I'm happy that there seems to be no ill will with knighthorse
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and I enjoyed ladydreamtime, maggiemaepisces, aple and Katy's Shaman (what is his
    name?)
    evile: knighthorse and Kili are not joined at the hip. Her enemies are not
    automatically his.
    evile: Keith.
    SkyeDS: he is a much different personality with kulilinei than with Kili
    SkyeDS: some people's behavior is more influenced by who is in their
    surroundings than others
    evile: I suspect it is actually Kai that makes the difference; knighthorse
    as 'dad' is slightly softer than knighthorse the guy.
    SkyeDS: Kulilinei/Kai = package deal (or should be)
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: Ashia (divine ambrosia) is like that
    SkyeDS: very pleasant when she's around some people but not when
    she's around others
    SkyeDS: much more like that than knighthorse
    evile: I've never seen knighthorse be unpleasant.
    SkyeDS: since he didn't respond to my "if I offended you I'm s orry"
    apology, I didn't know what to think/expect
    evile: Probably in the same way Sweetie avoids getting embroiled in my
    family bullshit, knighthorse figured he'd do the same--it wasn't his fight,
    why should he get involved, one way or the other.
    SkyeDS: well, since I was interacting with him and not her, I was
    concerned about offending him, and not her.
    SkyeDS: I respect the intellect I encountered, I really d on't give a
    damn about her lack thereof.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: that's why I wrote him, and not her, to say, if I offended,
    I'm sorry, such was the farthest thing from my intent.
    evile: He probably thinks the whole thing was silly & blown out of
    proportion, didn't care to dignify the tempest in a teapot with any
    more wind.
    SkyeDS: I hope so, because that's much preferable to harboring
    unspoken ill will.
    SkyeDS: that's why I was pleased that there didn't seem to be any.
    SkyeDS: matter of fact, it wouldn't have occurred to me to even
    apologize should I have offended
    SkyeDS: until she told sineater that I offended everyone there and not
    just her.
    SkyeDS: since I happen to give a damn, whether I should or not, about
    what Terriblelyne, savanni, knighthorse and Robin think, I thought if that was the
    case I should apologize.
    evile: Whatever. Kili assumes that her actions and feelings are of
    paramount importance to the entire world, and that if she's
    offended,of course everyone else will be too...whereas the reality
    was that nobody but the 2 of you realized t here was anything to be
    upset over.
    SkyeDS: only thing that upsets me is people being upset with me
    SkyeDS: it was the same feeling..."what the hell did I do to deserve
    this from her?"
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and baring the neck and saying look, I didn't want a fight,
    doesn't work
    SkyeDS: and that's the reason I'm getting about tired of people and
    at the point where just about everyone I know can go take a flying
    fuck
    SkyeDS: I seem to be upsetting people everywhere I turn lately, so it
    must be me, and I need to remove myself until I can figure out what
    the hell I'm doing, and stop
    evile: If you need to hermit for awhile, you should.
    SkyeDS: Sharjinka is radiating unhappiness about my migrating the
    games to the HFS
    evile: I think she has safety concerns.
    SkyeDS: so she said
    SkyeDS: and I asked her, well, do you doubt my personal and
    professional judgment?
    SkyeDS: and she said no
    SkyeDS: she doesn't seem to be able to separate her concerns for
    herself, and everyone else
    SkyeDS: I told her look, I respect your concerns, I won't ever again
    ask you if you want to participate, cool
    SkyeDS: and thought that should be the end of that
    SkyeDS: and she wanted to continue debating whether the other people
    involved should be
    SkyeDS: and I'm sorry but that's not her call
    evile: She's a good rider, from what I understand. I think she's
    worried about the kids with no riding experience getting up and
    trying to do mounted battle without knowing safe riding basics first.
    SkyeDS: the people she thinks don't have experience do
    SkyeDS: and are not just vetted by me, but by one of the only three
    golden lancers in the SCA
    SkyeDS: Chris/Keject specifically
    SkyeDS: and as I pointed out to her, he is a safer rider than either
    sineater or sonar0m or me for that matter
    SkyeDS: she was going on and on about minors, and I said what minors?
    SkyeDS: there was no reasoning with her.
    SkyeDS: and since I have adopted the safety standards that have
    worked for decades with the SCA, and there is no demonstrable reason
    not to trust my personal and professional judgment, I don't see the
    point in debating.
    SkyeDS: and I did my very best to alleviate whatever bad feelings
    were going on, I tried like three times, and she was having none of
    it.
    SkyeDS: and I know that I'm supposed to be giving sources of
    negativity a silent blessing and avoiding them.. and it hurts to do
    so when one of them is ostensibly my friend.
    evile: Just because she is worried about something, doesn't mean
    she's not your frend.
    SkyeDS: she seethes with her worries like a volcano.
    evile: She feels very protective of the 'kids' in HFS. I empathize
    SkyeDS: she seemed most worried about keject
    SkyeDS: keject is not a minor
    SkyeDS: keject has not only been vetted by me but by one of the three
    best equestrian officials in the SCA
    SkyeDS: case closed, far as I'm concerned
    evile: it's like driving...you're a fine driver, but the drunk idiot
    going the wrong way at high speeds will still kill your safety-minded
    ass.
    SkyeDS: and the last thing I needed today was a bunch of
    recriminations about how I should not let keject ride Jesse
    SkyeDS: she comes from a different school than I do where horses are
    concerned and that's fine
    SkyeDS: I have no problem with agreeing to disagree, but that takes
    two.
    SkyeDS: and she isn't having any of it.
    evile: That's too bad. I would say if they are adults and they give
    informed consent, it's their own tough shit if they get broken or
    killed riding...says so on every riding stable I've seen.
    SkyeDS: exactly.
    SkyeDS: I tried to explain to her why I operate the way I do, and
    that didn't go well at all
    SkyeDS: so then I said, well, ok, I know you don't think the same
    way, adn that's cool, let's jsut agree to disagree
    SkyeDS: and no dice.
    SkyeDS: and I've already said, I'm not going to let her volcanic
    emotions ruin my experience at Drandmir.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: it's just hard to have all that washing over me
    SkyeDS: it's overwhelming.
    evile: yeah, I'm sure.
    SkyeDS: I'm already dealing with one case of what the hell did I do,
    I didn't need another one blindsiding me
    SkyeDS: all I did was tell her, got Prophet in the saddle with a
    sword sunday, now we're just waiting on you
    SkyeDS: and all she had to do was say, no, don't want to, quit asking
    me, and that would have sufficed
    SkyeDS: I didn't need the riot act
    SkyeDS: when I asked her directly, was it her intention to question
    my methods because they weren't her methods, she said no, and then
    went right back to doing just exactly that.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: she's worried someone will sue the HFS and win
    SkyeDS: well, everyone that rides HFS combat, to my knowledge, has
    signed my waiver AND the HFS waiver
    SkyeDS: she seems to think that I have not considered and covered my
    bases, even when I'm using a tried and true system of security safety
    and protection, and nevermind that I"m not exactly untutored in
    legalities.
    evile: yup. Everyone will do their best to be safe and play safe, and
    if something happens (as it can even on the ground, I've seen padded
    pvc break and scratch the fuck out of someone's face)...it happens,
    and everyone will have to deal at that point.
    SkyeDS: she's being overly paranoid about something new and she even
    admitted as much
    SkyeDS: I'm actually glad she decided to just leave and go to lunch
    SkyeDS: because not a damn thing I could say was stemming the tide
    SkyeDS: thankfully Hugh just went to lunch, so I can get the tears
    out of my system. Now if the phone will just oblige me by not
    ringing.
    evile: yup. She's definitely running worst case scenarios in her
    mind. She doesn't want anyone hurt...well, that's good of her, her
    heart is in the right place, but....shit happens, and it's gonna
    happen whether your'e there with horses or not. A kid could fall out
    of a tree while playing assasin and break their arm, just as easily
    as falling off the horse.
    SkyeDS: crying at work = bad thing.
    evile: sometimes ya gotta cry.
    evile: It sounds to me like you're feeling bad about one situation
    and letting it color your perceptions about another unrelated
    situation.
    SkyeDS: I am overwhelmed because the same situation seems to keep
    reiterating itself recurringly
    SkyeDS: it's hard not to let perceptions be colored when the same
    thing happens often enough to make it a pattern.
    evile: It could be that you are seeing similarities where none exist,
    or only exist superficially.
    SkyeDS: people radiating serious levels of upset with me every time I
    turn around is not superficial to me.
    SkyeDS: and the more people who are upset with me, the more I am
    inclined to think I must be doing something to bring it all about
    evile: I seriously doubt anyone was upset with you at my house last
    night...I t hink you were just tired and upset from fussing with
    Jinx, and took things personally that were not meant for you to take
    personally
    SkyeDS: Jinx was this morning
    evile: perhaps that's been building longer than you realize? or maybe
    t here is something else going on that put you in a frame of mind to
    feel snarked/victimized
    SkyeDS: no, pretty much every time something sets her off I feel
    blindsided
    evile: you're a lot more intuitive t han you realize, I think. She's
    been worried about the horses being out at HFS for quite some time,
    if you recall.
    SkyeDS: and every time she says that's what's really bothering her,
    it was something else.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: provably something else.
    SkyeDS: sineater and sonar0m do something similar but not completely
    SkyeDS: they get upset, and they don't know what about
    SkyeDS: so there's not a damn thing I can do about it
    SkyeDS: I don't even know whether it's me, or something else.
    evile: *nod* it's tough to deal with.
    SkyeDS: I just didn't need a Sharjinka rant about the horses right now
    this minute
    evile: well, that seems to happen a lot...you're in a bad mental
    space and more and more shit gets shoveled on top of you.
    evile: But consider this: on a happy day when everything was going
    right for you, would any one of these things mess with you? No.
    You're just reacting and reacting and reacting and letting things be
    more upsetting than they would be as individual events.
    SkyeDS: things by themselves no
    SkyeDS: same t hing over and over again = pattern
    SkyeDS: pattern I brought upon myself, some way some how, so I have
    to figure it out so I can make it go away
    evile: The only thing you have control over is your behavior. As long
    as you continue to behave in a way that you feel is appropriate,
    that's all anyone can ask.
    SkyeDS: my feeling that I am responding appropriately can't be right
    if it's creating this pattern
    evile: I say rest and get your hermit time and see if that gives you
    some perspective to deal with the latest challenges.
    SkyeDS: there are a number of people whom I am not creating this
    pattern with
    SkyeDS: so maybe it isn't entirely hermit time
    evile: could be.
    SkyeDS: why would I be creating this with some people and not with
    others.
    evile: You are not going to get along with everyone in the world,
    ever, no matter how kind, generous, decent, well-adjusted, etc. you
    may attempt to be.
    evile: Some personalities just dont' mesh.
    evile: It's nobody's fault...you like horses and birds and SCA and
    Person A has no interest in any of that and likes things you're not
    interested in, too.
    SkyeDS: upsets with people that I do share those interests with
    upsets me
    SkyeDS: ie, SCA upsets, and Sharjinka/HFS upsets
    evile: Well, even within interests, not everyone is going to be
    friends automatically, and even friends are not going to agree with
    each other 100% all the time. You just have to decide if the
    disagreement is going to be a deal breaker on the friendship, or
    participation in the group.
    SkyeDS: upsets don't have to be dealbreakers, but if I'm doing
    something to cause them, I need to figure it out so I can stop.
    SkyeDS: before they become dealbreakers.
    SkyeDS: decided already a while back that I wasn't going to let
    Sharjinka be a dealbreaker. She decides whatever she decides but I'm
    going to keep doing what I've been doing regardless.
    SkyeDS: but if people in all these different venues are upset with me
    I must be doing something, and I need to figure it out or I won't
    stop.
    evile: I don't see 'all these different'. I see one.
    evile: Sharjinka has said she doesn't want to do mounted combat,
    that's her right. She has said she doesn't think it's safe for you to
    have other peopel doing it...that's not her call to make. From there,
    you both choose how to react and how to continue the relationship
    SkyeDS: I've expressed that I've made that call myself, as it was my
    call to make, and why I make t he calls I do. Why doesn't it end
    there?
    evile: You say people were snarking and attacking you, I say I didn't
    see it. You may or may not have chosen to take a general statement as
    a personal attack..you wisely chose to react appropriately and
    discreetly. Now you can choose to let it go, or you can choose to
    approach Nikiyoy, or you can choose to continue to let yourself be upset
    over something that may or may not have been intendet to upset you.
    SkyeDS: I respect her decisions on her own behalf, what the hell is
    wrong with agreeing to disagree?
    SkyeDS: I know I"m not going to change her mind and all s he does
    when she keeps going on about it is annoying the pig (while trying to
    teach her to dance)
    evile: By disengaging from you & discussion of horses, that may be as
    far as she goes on 'agreeing to disagree'
    SkyeDS: ok, so why not let me disengage the half a dozen times I tried
    SkyeDS: then storming off wouldn't have been necessary
    evile: She thinks people are at risk. She is afraid for them.
    SkyeDS: she said that. I heard that. I acknowledged hearing that.
    Nothing I said made a damn bit of difference, and nothing she said is
    going to make a damn bit of difference to me.
    SkyeDS: and rather than letting it go when I tried to change the
    subject she kept right on going until she worked herself up into
    storming off.
    evile: So...she disengaged. Now you do the same, and try to be calm
    and enjoy what you've decided to do.
    SkyeDS: why did she not disengage when I tried to?
    SkyeDS: am I not allowed to disengage?
    SkyeDS: should I have just stormed off by way of disengaging?
    evile: perhaps she didn't read the attempt correctly...worrying about
    what shoud and should not have happened and when is not goign to
    change what actually happened. Take what you know and go forward.
    SkyeDS: this reinforces my fuck this and fuck you (whomever) response.
    SkyeDS: if nothing I do is perceived the way it's intended, then it's
    out of my control and I"ll do what I damned well please and quit
    giving a damn about the feelings of people around me
    evile: If that's a response that will end up making you feel better
    than you do now, maybe so. But I suspect you'd end up beating up on
    yourself if you descended to that level of behavior.
    SkyeDS: that goes against everything I believe, but there it is.
    SkyeDS: I attempt to disengage, I get run over
    SkyeDS: and then she hits and runs by way of disengaging
    SkyeDS: I fucking don't deserve that.
    evile: things dont' always go the way you want them to.
    SkyeDS: particularly not from someone that I have invested as much of
    myself into as Sharjinka
    evile: Why don't you quit beating up on yourself and quit agonizing,
    do something else for a while,and let things settle down?

evile: (clutter)

    May 24, 2005

     

     

    Sharjinka: *sigh* So much for that idea....
    evile: which?
    Sharjinka: I talked to Skye_ds about mounted combat and horses....and
    beginners on horses that advanced.
    evile: You are trying ot talk her into this idea or out of this idea
    or what?
    Sharjinka: I was trying to tell her to slow down and train the kids
    more on basic riding. I failed miserably.
    evile: where was this?ICQ or on one of hte boards?
    Sharjinka: On AIM.
    Sharjinka: I was trained VERY differently on horses than Skye_ds.
    evile: I'm sure.
    Sharjinka: I told her I couldn't support something like this. Not
    this fast.
    Sharjinka: Mounted combat on horses that they have trouble
    controlling their paces?
    evile: I hear ya. I think it's a terrible idea...but she'll have to
    learn it the hard way, and hopefully it won't take more than a bad
    fall to teach it to her (as opposed to a break or a death, leading
    to lawsuit and/or extermination of the animals)
    Sharjinka: I hope not! Geez!
    Sharjinka: I'm so worried about this and I thought if I talked to
    her... she's only worried about protecting herself legally. I'm
    worried about more than that.
    evile: Tell me what happens to horses that throw/trample people and
    then the survivors sue the owners...horsie is dogmeat, right?
    Sharjinka: I think so......I've heard of that in worse case scenarios.
    Sharjinka: It's very rare.....but it's kind of like putting down a
    mean dog. It can happen.
    evile: If you can't present it to her framed in a "safety of the
    kids" format, present it to her as "if your animals hurt/kill a kid,
    your animals are meat"
    Sharjinka: I don't think she's willing to listen anymore. She was
    mad at me for questioning her judgment on this.
    evile: She's the 'horse expert' and she knows everything there is to
    know about horses, riding, and mounted combat.
    Sharjinka: They haven't even been doing mounted combat that long!
    evile: nope.
    Sharjinka: I know on the ground combat. Freaky things CAN happen.
    Sharjinka: On horses.....I'm having trouble figuring out what all
    could go wrong...but I don't like to think along those lines.
    evile: I hate to say it, but it's going to take something really bad
    to shake her confidence in her 'expertise', and maybe not even then.
    Sharjinka: Yes....but what bad thing? I'm worried about the kids.
    Protected legally - okay...all well and good but if one of the kids
    is seriously injured....
    evile: You can't prevent them from signing the waiver and going
    riding...all stables have signs that horseback riding is a risk and
    you assume all responsibilities. ... I"m sorry, but that's the truth.
    Sharjinka: Yes...I know. *sigh* I signed the same waiver when I was
    learning. :-)
    Sharjinka: My horse instructor never claimed to be an expert. The
    first thing she handed me was a shovel and pitchfork.
    Sharjinka: She said something about "to ride a horse is to care for
    it, can't learn one thing and not anything else."
    evile: You are definitely running worst case scenarios. She doesn't
    want anyone hurt any more than you do...well, that's good of her, her
    heart is in the right place, but....shit happens, and it's gonna
    happen whether your'e there with horses or not. A kid could fall out
    of a tree while playing assasin and break their arm, just as easily
    as falling off the horse.

    Sharjinka: That's true.
    Sharjinka: *sigh*
    Sharjinka: I just wish they'd spend a bit more time working on the
    basics.
    evile: yup. But she doesn't hear that, she hears you attacking her
    knowledge and expertise.
    Sharjinka: I know. *sigh*
    Sharjinka: I think she got really upset when I told her I wouldn't be
    a part of it. I'm not going to ride and I'm not going to learn
    mounted combat. I can't control Jesse enough for that.
    evile: *nod* good for you. Now hopefully you can trust that others in
    the HFS will follow your lead and not do something they dont' feel
    safe doing.
    Sharjinka: If I thought I could do it, I would. I just don't think
    it's safe. I think there is too much machismo from the guys to see
    it that way.
    Sharjinka: She asked if I planned to talk anyone out of it since they
    aren't minors and can ride if they want. I told her it wasn't my
    right to tell them what to do.
    Sharjinka: If they ask why I don't, I'll just tell them I'm not good
    enough or comfortable enough to do that.
    evile: *nod*
    Sharjinka: I honestly wish people so inexperienced wouldn't ride.
    evile: yeah...but how do they get experienced if they dont' ride?
    Sharjinka: True....but ....I don't know. I learned the walking and
    trotting first. I started out so basic. I guess I just think it's a
    lot for a newbie to handle all at once.
    evile: yeah. I agree. I wouldnt' try it and I've been riding since I
    was a kid.
    Sharjinka: I've been watching and thinking about it. I wish I could
    do it. I just know that I can't.
    evile: That's all you can do...and perhaps some people will be led by
    your example.
    Sharjinka: Yep. Someday I'll have my own horse and then I'll know
    what I'm talking about. It's more of gut instincts and warning
    lights then logic right now.
    evile: well, it's just like anything else dangerous/unsuitable your
    friends get into. You can choose not to do it, you can answer honesty
    and completely when they ask WHY, and then you have to let them go.
    You can't control anyone but yourself. And you shouldn't try.
    Sharjinka: I know. :-) I just know that right now, this is the
    decision I have to make on it.
    Sharjinka: I have to learn how to handle a dog. This will be my
    first dog that wasn't a family pet. Completely my responsibility.
    evile: *nod*
    Sharjinka: I'm not even sure I can handle THAT! ;-)
    evile: Dogs are a lot of work. I wouldn't want one.
    Sharjinka: I know. I'm a bit worried.
    evile: well, this is a trial period, so it'll be good to find out if
    you can handle it.
    Sharjinka: 45mph couch potato....
    Sharjinka: Yep, yep. I'm going to stress the trial period when he
    drops off the dog.
    evile: *nod*
    Sharjinka: :-D
    evile: I've heard/read that having 2 is just as easy (or hard) as
    having 1, and then at least they can keep each other company. If Sweetie
    and I ever have dogs agian, we are going to get 2.
    Sharjinka: It's been recommended that I get 2. I just don't know if
    I can afford that right now.
    evile: well, like I said, I've heard/read that it's not really any
    harder or more expensive to have 2 instead of 1.
    Sharjinka: I might think about it again. I'm just worried about
    responsibility levels. I've never done this before.
    evile: hence the 'trial'
    Sharjinka: Yep. :-)
    Sharjinka: I'm bringing him out to the park on Sunday. :-D
    evile: cool. I hope I'm in town, but still have no idea whether I
    will be here or not.
    Sharjinka: I was planning on going to Scarborough but I think that
    would be a trauma for the dog. ;-)
    evile: yup. YOu'd have to get a sitter.
    Sharjinka: I'm not going to. :-)
    Sharjinka: I hope Chip handles cars okay.
    evile: I guess you'll find out!
    Sharjinka: Yep. :-D
    evile: I told Skye she probably needed to take some time to calm down,
    and she signed off ICQ right after that....I probably pissed her off
    by not playing drama with her or agreeing that you're unreasonable.
    Sharjinka: Thanks.
    Sharjinka: I wish I wasn't so nervous about.... I just wish the
    training would slow down and be a bit more basic and thorough.
    evile: Well, maybe if you both give it some time and try to talk
    about it again after you've calmed down, you can bring across your
    concerns without making her feel like you're attacking her expertise.
    Sharjinka: Yeah...I think you're right. As always. :-D
    evile: Bottom line, if your friends want to do dangerous stupid
    things, there's nothing you can do to stop them. Your concerns have
    been voiced, that's all you can do....
    Sharjinka: Yeah...that's true.
    evile: You may just want to drop it....you're not going to convince
    her that she's not doing the right thing, and you're not going to
    convince her that HFS+Equestrian=bad idea ...she's the only one with
    horses in HFS, as opposed to SCA, and she wants to make herself feel
    special.
    evile: If people don't have fun and/or get hurt, they won't play with
    her horses for long. I've noticed more and more people being
    uninterested in the animals the longer they keep going out there.
    Wait it out, eventually everyone will lose interest and she'll find
    something else to do with herself and her animals.
    Sharjinka: You're right.
    evile: She seemed to have a nice time at my house last night, but
    then apparently she decided that people were attacking her and I was
    egging them on, so she sicced sineater on me. Probably as a smokescreen
    to keep from really thinking about the HFS-Horses problem very hard.
    evile: I don't care to be a punching bag for her and sineater. I don't
    think I'll invite t hem to anything anymore. Sucks for sineater, because
    I like him, but I can't have that mess in my life.
    Sharjinka: I'm sorry. :-( I didn't bring up the horse problem until
    today.
    Sharjinka: Wonder why she was so pissed....
    Sharjinka: She always seems that way.....
    evile: I think she didn't decide until today that she'd
    been 'attacked' last night.
    evile: Been doing the same bullshit since her 'bachelorette party'
    before she adnd sineater got married.
    Sharjinka: I really don't understand her at all. *sigh*
    evile: sineater's 2 oldest female friends threw her a party (becasue
    apparently she had none of her own) and things got ugly, but then
    calmed down again, s he left all s miles, 'we'll have you over for
    swimming and hottubbing at our new place, bla bla' and then by the
    time she got home, she'd worked herself into a fury and sicced sineater
    on us.
    evile: Fast forward 13 goddamned years and she's still pulling the
    same damn shit.
    Sharjinka: Yeah.....
    Sharjinka: She's a scary person to deal with. I don't think I've
    ever spoken up until now.
    evile: And now you know why you don't.
    Sharjinka: *sigh*
    evile: you're not going to convince her you're right. She's not going
    to convince you she's right. You may have to just tell her "I am
    agreeing to disagree" and perhaps say you'll press for destruction of
    the animals if they hurt or kill any of your kids.
    Sharjinka: I don't think I could ever do that.... However....if
    something that serious did happen, the horses would be banned from
    the park.
    evile: No, Jinx, here is where you go ultrabitch and make clear that
    there WILL be consequences for her poor choices. Those animals kill
    your kids, those animals are DEAD
    Sharjinka: Oh.....
    evile: If the risk is as bad as you fear it is, then it's time to
    make clear that she is taking a very LARGE risk in pursuing HFS
    equestrian.
    evile: If you care about the kids as much as you say, and fear for
    them as much as you say you do...then here is where the line gets
    drawn.
    Sharjinka: If only we had more experienced horse folks and we were
    moving a bit slower, I think I'd be okay with it.
    evile: You need to make clear to her exactly how much you fear for
    their safety and how far you will go to protect your people.
    evile: If she sees it as concern and genuine, abject TERROR for the
    worst case scenario, rather than an attack on her 'expertise' maybe
    she can remove her ego and do what's right
    Sharjinka: She has never struck me as being that sort of person.
    She's got it in her head and I'm not sure she's willing to drop it.
    evile: that is why you need to make it clear what,e xactly, she is
    risking by going forward with her choices.
    evile: a kid gets hurt? so what, she doesn't get hurt, she doesn't
    care. They signed a waiver, that covers her ass. A kid gets hurt and
    something of hers is destroyed as a result, she'll care about THAT.
    Sharjinka: You may be right there.....
    evile: I know I am
    Sharjinka: I don't know if....I'm strong enough to threaten like
    that.
    evile: If you can't, find someone in authority in Drandmir who CAN.
    Goofy?
    Sharjinka: Maybe. I think I should try and talk to her face to face
    about this again and see if I can't reason it out.
    evile: let it sit for a few days first.
    evile: And be prepared to escalate if/when she won't back down.
    Sharjinka: Yep, I will. :-)
    Sharjinka: Oh.... :-(

    evile: I'm just saying. I think if you can get her to take ego out of
    it, you may be able to get her to agree to take it slower.
    evile: But most/all of her identity and what makes her like herself
    and feel like a likeable person is in her 'way with animals'
    evile: So if she feels that is being attacked, that is her core
    identity and she will react badly.
    Sharjinka: It makes perfect sense.
    Sharjinka: I think a few days to think about this and try to come up
    with a solution is the best thing to do.
    Sharjinka: I want my temper to calm down a bit but I don't really
    feel that upset. But sometimes I don't feel upset and if the button
    is pushed, I'm surprised to find out that I am. :-D
    Sharjinka: Does that make any sense at all?
    evile: Yup. It makes perfect sense. Just take as long as you need to
    get calm and control your behavior as much as you can. You can't
    control feelings, just outward behavior.
    Sharjinka: Right! Gotta catch the bus. Bye.
    evile: OK. *hugs*

evile: (clutter)

    Jun. 24, 2005

     

     

    evile: tgif :)
    SkyeDS: amen :)
    evile: anything fun this weekend?
    SkyeDS: half day today, work / practice day tomorrow, HFS Sunday -
    i.e. same old same old
    evile: *nod* I heard they're doing Mini court sunday?
    SkyeDS: nods
    SkyeDS: and hopefully we'll have most of not all of our course ready
    to take, t oo
    evile: our friend Jaime is performing at the bellydance/fire show at
    NM on Saturday :)
    SkyeDS: Jaime who is married to Kathleen?
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: who bears some resemblence to larry the cable guy?
    evile: wouldn't know about that, I have no idea who that is.
    SkyeDS: stocky, good ole southern boy
    SkyeDS: that probably doesn't help does it
    evile: *shrug* You are thinking of the correct Jaime if you're
    thinking of Kathleen's Jaime/formerly Donna's Jaime.
    SkyeDS: wow! tell me how that goes! awesome for him :)
    evile: His friend Sharon spins fire and DJs for the dancers, and his
    friend/bandmate/Sharon's husband Steve plays live music there
    regularly for bellydance & fire nite.
    SkyeDS: I can't remember whether Kathleen &/or Jaime were at ESA
    helping the fire dancers there or not
    evile: I know Jaime was there, I dont' know what he was doing, other
    than sound board
    SkyeDS: I thought so but my memory is so vague
    SkyeDS: there were so many people there I knew to differing degrees
    evile: yup


    SkyeDS: your mom sent me a pair of shoes for my birthday
    SkyeDS: says she has an email addy - so I need to email her a thank
    you note
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I made the mistake of putting them on after work and driving
    yesterday, without hose
    evile:     [K/mom email address]
    SkyeDS: they will be happiermaking when I put them on first thing in
    the morning, with hose :)
    SkyeDS: I'm going to call them the Cinderella slippers :)
    evile: *nod*
    evile: Pub last night was so odd...one of the people that came out is
    a guy I met in 1989-90, one of hte RHPS people.
    SkyeDS: some of our Shire are going to crash the Irish Pub in Killeen
    after next coronation, when the Bards are there
    evile: that'll be fun.
    SkyeDS: the pub is cool, specially when the bards are there, genuine
    shepherd's pie, etc
    SkyeDS: I saw Tamdeer there once
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I didn't recognize her initially, her hair was a different
    color and she was fully dressed, I was so embarassed LOL
    SkyeDS: but by now nobody expects any better of me, everyone knows
    I'm a bull in a social china closet
    evile: I was disappointed to be out of town the same weekend as the
    pony party out at [captain scarlet's], because Tandeer was goin to be there.
    evile: Tandeer is pretty gracious & outgoing, probably didn't really
    offend her.
    SkyeDS: we had a good time. Her date stood her up, moron
    evile: yeah..she seems to be do ing better with that these days. she
    has her hub, a dom, and a sub :)
    SkyeDS: busy busy. I found the hard way I don't have energy for 3
    people
    evile: *nod*
    evile: 1+ of her bdsm playmates may be an LDR
    SkyeDS: you'd have thought it wouldnt' take me twice either, b ut now
    that I think about it, I've had 3 not once but twice
    SkyeDS: sineater, kaleon, Will
    SkyeDS: Will was long distance, he came here from New Zealand for
    two weeks, pushed me to leave sineater and kaleon and the children and
    move to NZ to be mono
    SkyeDS: and Will would never have happened but kaleon pushed the both
    of us past where we were both perfectly happy and comfortable
    SkyeDS: and then bitched bitterly
    SkyeDS: but anyway
    SkyeDS: and then there was sineater, kaleon and sonar0m
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I think kaleon was better as an LDR
    evile: some people are better in smaller doses.
    evile: &/.or strictly online
    SkyeDS: going to visit him in his dorm room 9 times a year for a long
    weekend wasn't going to survive after he graduated
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: when he got out on his own, he was not inclined to share the
    burden of travel <shrug>
    SkyeDS: playing online is a good way to get your feet wet in the kink
    pond
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: but eventually you need to grow past that, no?
    evile: I think so.
    SkyeDS: or not pretend to be an expert in that which you are not
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I know I have lots of ego problems, but I am happy that I
    have no problem saying with alacrity and no shame or guilt, "I don't
    know anything about that"
    SkyeDS: followed by "but I will find out" if necessary
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I was doing totem research earlier. I have too many.
    SkyeDS: want to torture a Gemini? "Choose!"
    evile: *nod* :)
    SkyeDS: I think that's the one advantage launchcast has over Sirius/XM
    SkyeDS: even tho there are commercials, I can listen to every kind of
    everything I like to listen to without changing channels
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: even if it is jarring to hear the monkees, poison, ronnie
    milsap, and then phantom or music man
    evile: I am liking 'fan stations' these days
    SkyeDS: omg I thought I was going to throw up, it played the Jackson
    5 singing Pippin
    evile: eeps!
    SkyeDS: I could not get to the mouse fast enough, I nearly injured
    myself
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: how do fan stations operate
    SkyeDS: I'm never happy with just my own numerous addictions now,
    always happy to borrow yours too ya know
    evile: if you click on or search the band name you like, it will
    show stations on which that band is played. and then you can
    click 'fan station' and get things related/in the genre/liked by fans
    of the band.
    evile: right now I'm listening to the Oingo Boingo fan station
    http://music.yahoo.com/ar-259267---Oingo-Boingo
    evile: and it's playing Dead Can Dance. I think you'd like some of
    their stuff. techno/arabic
    evile: they are supposedly 'goth'...but I don't remember listening to
    them until very recently
    SkyeDS: I remember the first time someone told me I was Goth, I had
    no clue what they were talking about LOL
    SkyeDS: (I was in black garb at the time)
    SkyeDS: I spent HOURS following "if you like x you'll like these
    similar/related artists (y, z)" when I was first doing launchcast
    SkyeDS: I love Elfman, and I liked "Gratitude", OB from Beverly Hills
    Cop
    SkyeDS: just like a cat, following this string, and then oh look
    there's another one, let's follow that, and then oh look, there's
    another, a nd another and....
    evile: *nod* me too. I have discovered a lot of music since starting
    my Launchcast subscription
    evile: too bad there's no nose-plug equivalent of earphones for when
    the coworkers make foulness in the microwave.
    SkyeDS: yuck
    SkyeDS: /me hands you an oxygen mask
    evile: it may just be my own body chemistry making me sensitive to
    smells
    evile: heehee. thanks :)
    SkyeDS: I'm unusually sensitive to smell all the time. I couldn't
    eat breakfast at the table when Daddy was reading the newspaper, I
    was so sensitive to it
    SkyeDS: and there are a number of migraineurs now that are smell
    triggered too
    evile: *nod* I think mine is dependent on hormones. Now that I''m off
    depo and cycling normally-ish again
    SkyeDS: by cycling, you don't mean ovulating and/or bleeding do you?
    not after teh ablation? not bleeding anyway right?
    evile: I do ovulate, but they don't go anywhere. & I spot about 3
    days a month, about every 25 days.
    SkyeDS: for the longest while on the pill all I did was spot a few
    days, I miss that
    evile: I was hoping I'd be one of the lucky ones that doesn't bleed
    at all..but mild spotting is nothing compared to the misery of my
    early 20's.
    evile: *headdeskvodkashot* A friend of mine, pretty much fresh out of
    college, thinks that the temp agency is calling him at "odd times"
    when they call him before 8 a.m....
    SkyeDS: LOL
    evile: I guess university needs to have a "Real World 101" class for
    some people.
    SkyeDS: tell him to sub - they'll call him right after 5 am for
    elementary
    evile: hehe. He'd probably get mad at them.
    evile: the thing about temps is if they call you more than once or
    twice and you dont' answer, or aren't available, they don't bother to
    call you again.
    SkyeDS: nods, and if you ever walk out before finishing a contract
    evile: yup.
    evile: I did that once...last day of my contract, boss lady & her
    assistant had gone on vacation, I ran out of supplies for my project,
    didn't see any reason to hang around with nothing to do...big mistake.
    evile: When I came back to Austin the next summer and called them
    they told me I was on the no-rehire list.
    evile: If I went back today, they'd probably still have me on file
    as 'do not rehire' ...
    evile: if anyone thinks I'm unforgiving, I'll tell them to go talk to
    Today's Temporary--they've got the patent on it!
    evile: my launchcast played John Williams and Mozart back to
    back...that was interesting.
    SkyeDS: hehe :)
    SkyeDS: listening to Bossman's Miles Davis & similar now that he's
    here
    evile: *nod* that is not torture or anything :)
    SkyeDS: not at all
    evile: sometimes it's helpful to stick to one genre, it helps the
    music fade into the background a bit so you can focus on whatever
    you're doing.
    SkyeDS: I told him he ought to just go home and stay there.
    SkyeDS: he's not going to be the least bit productive today
    evile: it's been a long week, all that traveling.
    SkyeDS: I'm leaving in 15 minutes
    evile: cool. :)
    evile: Blondie to Louis Armstrong. whee!
    SkyeDS: lol
    SkyeDS: well, guess I'll go so I can finish what I have to do to go
    to the bank
    SkyeDS: HUGS wind to your wings the rest of the afternoon
    evile: Ok. have a good weekend.
    SkyeDS: ty u2! :D

Profile

evile: (Default)
evile

August 2025

S M T W T F S
     12
3456789
10111213141516
17 181920212223
24252627282930
31      

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated Aug. 19th, 2025 02:30 am
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios