thewordnerd: There were no yipping doggies on my voicemail last weekend! :)
evile: No....I wasn't really close enough to the starting box to get
really good audio.
evile: how was your campout?
thewordnerd: Eh, it was nice. The park was cool, the people were friendly
and the weather was great for camping. I'm glad I packed thicker
clothes, which I didn't really for PBF. :)
evile: yeah! It got cold Saturday night!
thewordnerd: Not sure if I'm going camping again with that particular
group, though. The next youngest person was probably 20 years older
than me, and everyone else was in their 50s and 60s. Nice people, but
*very* low-energy, and I didn't think that my suggestion about
sneaking into one of the pools after dark to skinnydip would go over
very well. :)
evile: oh, foo. That kind of sucks.
thewordnerd: Yeah, it was kinda a let-down. I don't attach much weight to
people's ages, but they were all so low-energy, and when we walked
anywhere we kept having to stop every 50 yards or so to rest. I tried
to be patient and think I succeeded, but it did get to me at points. :(
evile: yeah, I can see how that'd get old after a while.
thewordnerd: It was funny, though, because we had singalongs on both
nights, and they were singing old folk songs that were popular in the
50s, and they'd say something like 'That song came out in 1954. Do
you remember that?' and they'd all nod, but they were surprised that
I didn't know any of them. :P
evile: *laff*
thewordnerd: And I was trying to think of a way to tactfully say 'Almost
every single one of these songs is decades before my time' but
couldn't think of one. :)
evile: nope...sometimes tact isn't the way to go.
thewordnerd: Heh. I just kept it to myself. Very nice people, and they
really did their best to make me feel welcome, and I very much
appreciate that . . . but I need more high energy and adventure.
evile: *nod*
thewordnerd: Krause Springs is a nice park, though. Kinda want to go back
at some point. They have a neat swimming hole with a waterfall and
streams feeding into it. Fun.
evile: Yup, I've been there before. It is really nice.
thewordnerd: Oh, neat.
thewordnerd: So how were the dog races? :)
evile: very fun.
thewordnerd: Hmmm. How do they work? People just stand at the end and call
their dogs? Seems like that'd cause more problems than anything.
evile: No, there was a little cage, with seven compartments, so they
only raced 7 dogs at a time. They put the dog into the compartment,
and then the side that opened had a screen, so the handler would
squeak toys or call the dog from a line behind the finish line.
thewordnerd: LOL Sounds cute!
evile: it was adorable. There were so many cute dogs out there!
thewordnerd: I wonder how it got started? Seems like such a random
concept. :)
evile: apparently they've been doing it for a few years now. There
were signs for "buda TX, Weiner dog capital of texas"
thewordnerd: Interesting. I wonder how one earns that designation, and if
every state has one? :)
evile: *lol* I'm not sure. It was pretty funny.
thewordnerd: Heh, sounds incredibly amusing.
evile: It was. There was a dog in front of us who kept barking at the
racer dogs. She was a hoot.
thewordnerd: LOL Wow, must've been difficult to control. I don't know if
I'd have brought a non-racing dog out.
evile: most people brought other weenies, they're little. They get
yappy and start jumping around, you pick them up and hold them a
while.
thewordnerd: Ah, ok, that works. Can't imagine bringing Babbs there, then
struggling to hold her in place.
evile: no. There were a couple of golden retreivers, and one guy
brought what looked like a wolf-cross, but most people out there had
little dogs. And I did not see any dogs actually being bad.
thewordnerd: Oh, that's good. If only that were so about children, eh? :P
evile: I figure at outdoor stuff, kids can pretty much do whatever.
thewordnerd: Hmmm. I can understand that perspective.
evile: for some reason, yelling and running and shrieking at the top
of ones lungs just seem to be less annoying when done in an outdoor
park, or wherever, as opposed to on the couch while you're trying to
watch a movie, say.
thewordnerd: Right. Makes sense.
evile: (apparently that happened at Robies party on Saturday, bTW)
thewordnerd: Ewww!
evile: All these nimrod breeder morons in Voyagers and Poly are
always bitching because people don't have family friendly gatherings,
well...maybe THATS why, assholes.
thewordnerd: Yeah, seriously. Lemme guess, these people never host their
own family-friendly gatherings?
evile: Oh, no, of course not.
thewordnerd: Wow, how'd I know that? Damn I'm good.
evile: One of them is [thenakedredhead], and I don't think she has a pot to piss
in or a window to throw it out of
thewordnerd: Heh.
evile: so she doesn' t have the space or resources to have a party.
thewordnerd: Hmmm.
evile: (and I notice she isn't too fond of doing any kind of work or
pitching in or even bringing something to share)
evile: And the other brat-owner is Zee, and when she has people over,
she sends her lovely angel off to Mom.
thewordnerd: Hmmmm, that's rather interesting. So she wants to bring it to
other parties but not have it at her own?
evile: apparently so. Is that hypocritical or what?
thewordnerd: Yup.
evile: oh well. I expect no less from breeders.
thewordnerd: Heh. I hope that she has another party, though. I've heard
that they're fun, guessing that the usual parties aren't vanilla (not
that non-vanilla is a necessity for me, but I'd assume that people
don't drag their kids to those (though as I write this I realize that
there are probably other annoying habits that they bring along
instead.))
evile: heh. Yeah, I actually like [thenakedredhead]'s kid better than I like [thenakedredhead].
Seems that with very little effort, [Little One] could actually be a decent
child, if she were taught how to behave.
thewordnerd: Yeah, I don't know much about her, but she actually does seem
kinda cool.
evile: well, the fact that she's been at several polydinners and you
don't have an unpleasant story to relate, pretty much speaks volumes
thewordnerd: You mean about [Little One]? That's true. The only unpleasant thing
about [thenakedredhead] that gets to me is her loudness and the fact that I can
clearly hear her laugh all the way down the table. Actually, after
our Mongolian BBQ trip when it finally clicked with me who she was, I
remembered all kinds of other poly dinners and that voice and
thought 'Ah, so THAT was her.' I just didn't have anything to
associate with the noise.
evile: *giggle* Aren't you pleased now?
thewordnerd: Yep, I like having a name to attach to various phenomena. :P
evile: what irritates me about her, other than that voice, is the
fact that she wants people to like her, and wants respect, and all of
this, and she seems not in the least bit interested in being
respectful of other people.
thewordnerd: Hmmm. I've not really gotten close enough to her to experience
that.
evile: Just listen to her, she's all "me" "I" "Mine" in conversation,
she doesn't ask people how they are, how they've been, say how nice
it is to see anyone, it's all just "me, me, me"
thewordnerd: Ewww.
evile: And apparently she gets point deductions on her 'submissive'
status too, from the 'real sub' girls I know. she's my favorite kind
of lazy sub who is sub because they want things done to and for them.
evile: 24 hours of cleaning floors with toothbrushes and such would
probably help her get more in touch with her submissive side...
thewordnerd: LOL Yikes. At the last GWNN party, someone was asking if I
knew her, then said something like 'Yeah, [thenakedredhead] can be very dramatic.'
I just chuckled and didn't comment.
thewordnerd: LOL!
evile: *laff* That's a nice way of putting it. she gets away with a
lot because she is attractive. It's too bad, really.
evile: My new Buddhist Philsophy that I just made up this
morning: "Compassionate Avoidance"
thewordnerd: LOL How does that one work?
evile: basically, it's just a nice way to say "you annoy the FUCK out
of me, but you're not important or interesting enough for me to hate,
so I'm going to ignore you"
thewordnerd: Seems like a good philosophy to adopt.
evile: I hope so. We'll see.
evile: i mean, if I was feeling generous and kind, I would admit that
I understand why people act so awful. They're frightened or in pain,
and they don't know any other way to act. So in that sense, I do feel
sorry for them, compassionate...but at the same time, I don't want
anything to do with them.
thewordnerd: I think I sorta unintentionally practice it, simply because I
don't like caring enough about iminant trainwrecks to put any effort
into trying to console the survivors. Now if only I could cut said
trainwreks off, even peripherally. Just read about the breakup of two
acquaintances that I knew would happen a long, long time ago, all
documented extensively on LJ. I don't care enough to offer support,
but still would rather just not see it at all.
evile: oh, yuck. I hate it when it's 2 people you know and like.
thewordnerd: Exactly. These particular people have so many issues that they
know about, but they'd rather attempt suicide and be dramatic than
actually work together to work through them (or, at least, such are
my perceptions.) Ick.
evile: Ugh. That's awful!!
thewordnerd: Eh, they're both people I pretty much knew were bad news from
the start, even individually. I just wish I could smack some sense
into both of them, but it wouldn't do any good.
evile: Nope. you can pretty much bet that if they're parading it
across LJ they're in it for the drama, and not interested in the
personal growth stuff.
thewordnerd: I guess that part of me does find something in watching, even
though I wish I didn't. Maybe it helps me to realize that things
really aren't so bad for me. I may have family issues, and issues
getting close to friends and letting them close to me, but nothing
*that* extreme, and nothing anyone did would send me into a bathroom
swallowing pills. My problems suck and bother me, but it certainly
helps to realize that I'm not *that* messed up, not even remotely
close.
evile: ahh, yeah. I totally get that.
thewordnerd: No kidding. I read their entries and ask 'Why the hell are you
writing all this out and not talking about it with each other?'
evile: Oh, no, that wouldn't be dramatic enough!!
thewordnerd: It's ephemeral_ether and ketadream, just in case you want to
practice your new philosophy.
evile: *sends kind thoughts to them, and refrains from reading their
LJs*
thewordnerd: There you go! :)
evile: do these people go to poly dinner?
thewordnerd: No.
thewordnerd: Why do you ask?
evile: Ok, if they don't run with any of my circles, then there's
really no reason for me to be in their business.
thewordnerd: Indeed. They aren't anyone you've met in my presence.
evile: the names are familiar, I think they are on some of my LJ
friends lists of LJ friends.
evile: Oh, Joy, I just read that Chrisloy plans to be at Poly 101 and
First Wednesday. Bleh.
thewordnerd: Ick. Hopefully she won't bring the brat.
evile: her life is such a trainwreck...I do feel bad for her. But
then with everything going south in her own life, she has to go and
poke her nose in to other people's business. Compassionate Avoidance.
thewordnerd: Ugh.
evile: she was trying to enlist me to help Sineater get free from [Skye_ds].
I admire the sentiment, but...no, thanks.
thewordnerd: Yeah. I thought she liked [Skye_ds]?
evile: oh, who knows. She might actually be friends with [Skye_ds], and
be conspiring with [Skye_ds] to trick me into talking shit about [Skye_ds]
so that I get to be the bad guy again. who knows.
thewordnerd: Wow.
evile: I've pretty much figured out that no matter how paranoid I am,
it's never quite paranoid enough, when it comes to Sineater and [Skye_ds].
thewordnerd: That's really sucky. It's sad that you can't just decide to
have nothing to do with them and cut them out. Giving people the
benefit of the doubt is great and all, but they seem like people who
just require so much energy to deal with or keep at a distance. It'd
drive me crazy.
thewordnerd: Or, at least, [Skye_ds] seems tough to know/be associated with.
evile: I'm pretty close to going ahead and practicing compassionate
avoidance with them, too. Sineater doesn't seem to want to be close to
his family, whether thats' his choice or whether it's been beaten
into him...either way, do I want to do all that work for unsatisfying
results?
thewordnerd: Yeah. There's probably an inverse proportion principle in
there somewhere in that it becomes easier to answer that question the
further one is away from you. :(
evile: Yup.
evile: she just made his life so hellish after that trip to Houston,
maybe it's just easier for him to not be involved with family at this
point.
thewordnerd: Ugh, after the trip to see your grandparents a few months
back? (Was that what it was for, something about looking for home
health?)
evile: yes, his grandmother. [Skye_ds] had other plans for that day, and
I assumed it would be safe to borrow Sineater for the day. Somehow after
the fact she tried to twist the story around to say that I had told
Sineater that she wasn't invited, that I had said her presence would
upset people, and all of this other crazy garbage.
evile: And then when that story wouldn't fly, and I responded calmly,
she changed the story a few more times until Sineater was so confused he
didn't remember what anyone had actually said or done, but only what
she was telling him he'd said and done.
thewordnerd: Wow.
evile: and finally the story was that she'd asked if she could go and
he LIED t her and told her that I'd said that other stuff about "she
can't go because she'll upset people"
thewordnerd: Hmmmm.
evile: so then he wasn't in trouble for telling her she wasn't
invited, he was in trouble for lying and telling her that I'd said
that...when nobody said ANY of that!!
evile: pure crazy.
thewordnerd: Weird. I don't understand her, nor di I think I want to. That
way lies madness, I think.
evile: exactly!!
evile: Compassionate Avoidance.
thewordnerd: Heh.
evile: well, dammit, my Launchcast crapped out on me. It keeps giving
me some kind of server error when I try to play music. I've only got
20 minutes here, so it's not really worth a reboot, it's just
annoying.
thewordnerd: Ewww. That's odd.
evile: I know.
evile: if there was something wrong with the server on my end it
would not allow me to use ICQ or look at any web pages, so I'm
thinking it's Yahoo's launchcast server. So a reboot on my end
probably wouldn't help, except perhaps as sympathetic magic.
thewordnerd: Seems logical. That's the one thing that bothers e about
streaming music. Streaming stations die more frequently than do
standard ones, though I suppose the freedom from commercials and the
better selection makes up for that.
evile: Yeah. there's always pluses and minuses for everything.
evile: Well, it's finally 4, time to get gone! See ya!!
thewordnerd: Wheee! :) Bye.
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