Jan. 25th, 2005

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    Jan. 25, 2005

     

     

    I ignored many signs that I should just stay home--bad dreams,
    pinching my fingers as I was getting off the bus, elevator at work
    not working so I had to walk up the stairs carrying my bookbag &
    stuff for a care package for Josephine & D's new baby, in a building
    which was heated up to about 100. And since my hands were already
    full it was a hassle to take off my sweater and jacket...yay.

    Then I went on my lunch break to mail the stuff, and was chastised as
    I picked up a flat rate box to put it in by the bossy, loud,
    obnoxious know-it-all postal clerk bitch (yes, I read the sign, I
    know it's $7.70, STFU and let me mail my shit!) and then after our
    transaction was completed, she blathered at me for 10 minutes about
    her birthday skydive. Ugh. It's at times like that, I wish I had 15
    inches of limp cock to slap people with...

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    Jan. 25, 2005

     

     

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    might think that you have good reasons for not telling people, and
    some of them may in fact be true, but most likely a lifetime of
    keeping your secrets has led to a resolution fortified by
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    give them a chance. Ask yourself if it would really be that horrible
    to open up to others; nobody says you have to do it all at once,
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    Jan. 25, 2005

     

     

    evile: I can't believe it's only tuesday...
    SkyeDS: nods
    evile: I ignored many Signs that I should have just called in sick
    today.
    SkyeDS: and consequently...?
    evile: It's just been one of those days where I can't get out of my
    own way.
    evile: Oh well. At least the Oklahoma Pity Party is a whole state
    away, so that's a plus.
    SkyeDS: with a full email box
    SkyeDS: I have to admit, I've been using his situation to keep my
    reading skills honed
    SkyeDS: he's very reliable that way
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I do a reading, check his journal, and so far, it's never
    failed to have a posting that I can calibrate my reading with
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: although the whole thing is just rather sad
    SkyeDS: apparently he still hasn't figured out what his journals and
    the cards both reveal to me, which is Carol was using him, and in
    love with someone else.
    SkyeDS: and the whole situation with going back to his parents is a
    Devil (slavery) situation
    evile: yup. I had some sympathetic-yet-boot-in-the-ass stuff I
    momentarily felt like sharing via email. I think the feeling has
    passed.
    SkyeDS: I don't know what I feel at this point other than morbid
    geminian curiosity.
    SkyeDS: the cards and I don't see him leaving his parents any time
    soon (if ever the way he's going right now)
    evile: I'm too soft hearted for my own good.
    SkyeDS: and he's all fantasizing over Carol, who was using him in
    place of whomever it is that she wants and can't have (she's pretty
    torn up over this other person)
    evile: aww.
    SkyeDS: and I can't believe how much of what I see in the cards he
    actually verifies, but he doesn't see it himself
    evile: *shrug* He is hell bent on going his own way and making his
    own mistakes.
    SkyeDS: just like my little brother now that I think on it
    SkyeDS: I am disappointed that Mom said at one point she wasn't
    enabling him anymore and then went right back to it (grandkids you
    know)
    evile: Isn't it interesting how we recreate the same types of
    relationships for ourselves again and again...not because they're
    fun, but because that's the interaction we are used to...
    SkyeDS: well, I don't know what I missed
    SkyeDS: but had he acted like this when first we met, there wouldn't
    have been a relationship
    SkyeDS: but I am told by many that I am the rare exception, and not
    the rule, when it comes to not wearing masks for people.
    evile: People are usually on their best behavior when they first get
    together with someone.
    evile: and when it's online, phone, and long-distance, it's pretty
    easy to only 'see' the person when you are feeling up to being
    charming and delightful company.
    SkyeDS: I'm socially retarded, remember, I don't have best behavior -
    or it isn't distinguishable lol
    evile: Not true, I've seen you try very hard in some pretty
    threatening social situations.
    SkyeDS: love that site you gave me last, Sineater and I pored over it
    yesterday
    evile: which?
    SkyeDS: (non sequitur sorry_
    SkyeDS: dhuir-?
    SkyeDS: eleanor on horse?
    evile: Oh, yeah. Pretty pictures.
    SkyeDS: paintings, ornaments, tshirts, angels, dragons, fairies, VERY
    cool
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I seem to have a problem with taking people at face value.
    evile: such as?
    SkyeDS: but I have also noticed that men do not seem able to
    recognize when women are not at face value
    SkyeDS: cattiness is a prime example
    SkyeDS: manipulative two faced ness with ulterior motives is another
    SkyeDS: and it isn't just my men either, but men in general I have
    noticed this about
    SkyeDS: even otherwise reasonable and intelligent men
    evile: depends on the guy. When Nikiyoy and roninjedi were
    dating, he got seriously pissed at her and onyxlynxx for being catty
    about another friend he'd brought to poly dinner.
    SkyeDS: exception so noted! wow
    evile: Of course, he didn't confront them honestly and directly, he
    passively agressively bitched about them in vague terms to yet
    another 3rd party and let it get back to them.
    SkyeDS: there are many ways to classify astrological signs
    SkyeDS: duologys, triplicities, quadruplicities, etc
    SkyeDS: duologies= hot/cold, moist/dry, male/female
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and so half the signs are considered male and half female
    SkyeDS: and any time I read something like Men are from Mars, where
    it's gender based
    evile: masculine/feminine, not necessarily the same as male/ female.
    SkyeDS: if you take out physical gender, and replace it with the
    gender of one's sign
    SkyeDS: exactly
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: a very female man probably does recognize female behavior
    when he sees it.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: of course not all of them (Sineater for example has a feminine
    side and doesn't recognize catty or manipulative when he sees it)
    SkyeDS: I didn't mean to say earlier that all men don't recognize it
    when they see it, but that many of them don't. (more than not in my
    limited experience)
    evile: *shrug* paranoia, will destroy ya.
    SkyeDS: you made a rhyme :)
    evile: song lyric.
    SkyeDS: oh
    SkyeDS: I took a lyric from Singing in the Rain (Moses supposes his
    toeses are roses, Moses supposes erroneously) and sang it to Arthur
    modified (Arthur supposes....)
    evile: the way I see it, you can go through life assuming that
    everyone secretly hates you, or you can take them at face value and
    try to be happy.
    SkyeDS: Mom thought it was mine and was all enthused that Iw as going
    to be the next Dr Seuss.
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: they're pressuring Sineater to get on a plane with no Letter of
    Offer or Contract (nothing in writing but an email)
    SkyeDS: so they made reservations for him on a plane this morning
    evile: yuck. They should at least give him an advance, then.
    SkyeDS: he found this out last night after I'd gone to bed
    SkyeDS: so his way of dealing with this was to call at around
    midnight and leave the msg that he couldn't fly today because someone
    hit my truck and put me in the hospital.
    SkyeDS: <sigh>
    evile: not the best tactic.
    SkyeDS: yeah well
    evile: He just needed to continue to stick to his original boundary:
    formal offer, in writing, NOW.
    evile: But...at least he's not going without it, so that's a small
    plus, I guess.
    evile: I'm still trying to figure out what the heck happened on
    Saturday...apparently there was all kinds of drama at the party, and
    I was oblivious to all of it. (nothing new for me, I know...but
    still.)
    SkyeDS: drama is interesting as long as you're a spectator.
    evile: yup
    evile: I suspect it has something to do with Pace's 2 new loves not
    integrating very well with tangentsferret and Erinlefey...but I didn't see any
    actual evidence of that sort of tension at the party
    SkyeDS: that makes... a quintet? wow.
    evile: Pace has all sorts of far-flung sweeties, so 2 more shouldn't
    be that bad.
    evile: Or at least that's what I figured.
    SkyeDS: depends on how deep the relationships all go, I would guess
    evile: yup. And all of Pace's others are 1 person, this is Pace in a
    relationship with a couple who are very like tangentsferret & Erinlefey, at least
    superficially.
    evile: E may be disturbed by the unpleasant things she sees in
    that mirror, or by the way in which that couple treats Pace, where
    she and tangentsferret don't have that same dynamic? I'm just guessing here....
    SkyeDS: using DR's #2, I'd say that's a good working hypothesis.
    evile: DR? What does that stand for?
    evile: If I were being unkind, I might speculate that E has "Queen
    Bee" syndrome....but I like E too much to think of her like that.
    SkyeDS: Don Ruiz
    evile: oh, OK,
    SkyeDS: even if she does have queen bee, so what, we all have
    foibles, nobody's perfect.
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: we are just inclined to tolerate more from our friends than
    from others
    evile: To my understanding, Queen Bee Syndrome is one of the cardinal
    sins of poly...so that's why I'd rather not think of my friend with
    that large of a problem.
    SkyeDS: I'm not quite sure of the intrinsic meaning that polys use
    for it
    evile: I liked the GG (genetic girl) of the couple, but didn't really
    get a good vibe from the transwoman
    SkyeDS: queen bee to polys wouldn't be where one person gets all the
    multiples and no one else does?
    evile: I think that's one interpretation. More like "I have veto
    power, but nobody else does"
    SkyeDS: nods
    SkyeDS: understandable why that is a cardinal sin
    evile: yup
    evile: mouser says there are plenty of healthy poly relationships in
    which 1 or more people in the relationship are mono, (ex: E is
    with Pace, Erin is with tangentsferret, tangentsferret is currently Mono, Pace is with
    many others long-distance) So that in itself isn't unhealthy.
    SkyeDS: I'm biased, but I agree.
    SkyeDS: for obvious reasons.
    evile: But where it would get hairy is if Erin told tangentsferret or
    Pace "you can't date anyone"
    evile: and where it would become egregious is if Erin said "I can
    date anyone I want, but you two CAN'T"
    SkyeDS: that's what Kaleon accused me of.
    SkyeDS: leaving out of course that there are established agmts for
    dating others that he completely violated
    evile: Now if it's just that Erin/tangentsferret don't get along with Serafina and
    Kyeli-unlikely, Pace is just going to have to figure out how to parcel out her
    spare time, or if she needs to just break up with one/more of the
    people in that group.
    SkyeDS: all your friends can't be expected to be friends with all
    your other friends. in general, but certainly among polys.
    evile: exactly.
    SkyeDS: it can get very nasty
    evile: I mean, if Erinlefey or tangentsferret, or anyone in the group has fears
    that Pace is in physical danger, obviously that kind of veto is going
    to need to carry more weight than "I just don't like ____"
    SkyeDS: you establish open and honest communication and rules of
    engagement
    SkyeDS: one person plays by them, say, and the other person doesn't
    SkyeDS: and that creates a situation where on one side, it's "I
    wouldn't mind you having so and so if you had just gone about it the
    right way"
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: and then on the other side it's "well you just want to have
    all the spice and for me to have none"
    SkyeDS: very nasty
    evile: yup
    evile: I don't know what the deal is. I know Pace met them, then
    talked with Erinlefey about whether or not to date them, got Erinlefey's OK to
    date, and then this....whatever...hoo-ha at the party.
    SkyeDS: jealousy is a mean monster. many of us think we have it
    conquered and find out the hard way that it rears its head very
    unexpectedly.
    evile: And that may be why Erinlefey reacted so badly, because she thought
    she was beyond all that, and OK with the new relationship and then
    WHAM!
    SkyeDS: have been there, done that, and it is possible
    SkyeDS: you want to be friends with the Others
    SkyeDS: and it's hard when you can't be
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: for example, I don't deal well with little girls who seem to
    think my ranch and my horses come along with my men
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: of course, they tend to behave passive-aggressively and
    manipulatively and otherwise unpleasantly towards me, which does not
    nurture friendly feeling
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: if you consider the general catty and manipulative nature of
    many women, and then you throw that into poly amplification...
    evile: yeah.
    evile: If I was ever going to try poly, I would want Sweetie to start out
    dating someone who was my friend first.
    SkyeDS: ya.
    SkyeDS: would have been nice if Kelly or Sharjinka for example had
    become Family.
    evile: so I'd already be in good communication with her before the
    sexual element came into play.
    evile: Women are definitely harder to trust than men
    SkyeDS: amen sister
    evile: I'm so ready to be out of here. One of my coworkers is on the
    phone with someone, and has been for quite some time now. She is very
    smart and dedicated to her work, which is nice to see, but she's also
    from East Texas, very loud & highly accented. My aching head...I can
    hear her even through the headphones & music. *sigh*
    evile: oops. WEST TX. Totally different accent. :P
    SkyeDS: lol
    SkyeDS: grandma had to have her little dog buddy put down, lung cancer
    evile: aw. I'm sorry to hear that
    SkyeDS: he was a shelty-pom cross, and sweetest thing you ever met
    SkyeDS: I told Mom I thought we should rescue her another dog
    SkyeDS: her last two were rescues and turned out quite well
    SkyeDS: so Mom says, we'll see
    SkyeDS: takes Gramma, they get a chow-lab from the pound, and Gramma
    loves the new baby
    SkyeDS: and this was, of course, my mother's idea.
    evile: I'd give it some time...It took me a couple of years after
    Mardi Gras before I wanted another cat.
    SkyeDS: had it turned out not well it would have been my idea of
    course.
    evile: *nod*
    evile: LOL! Check out this shirt!
    http://www.cafepress.com/captainwhimsy.16788296
    SkyeDS: omg too funny!
    evile: I'll have to add it to my list.
    SkyeDS: am planning to buy an angel tshirt and a faery tshirt for me,
    and a dragon tshirt for Sineater, from that Dhuir page
    evile: cool :)
    evile: I think tangentsferret has the "Titania" shirt
    SkyeDS: there's a thumbnail for Other Intrigues that is a beautiful
    pegasus
    SkyeDS: but when you go in to look for that on a tshirt, tisn't there
    SkyeDS: there's a pegasus combating two dragons, but not the really
    pretty solo pegasus of the thumbnail
    evile: *nod*
    evile: I like window shopping.
    evile: No one ever listens to me when I say they should get help...I
    don't know why I keep saying it.
    SkyeDS: if it makes you feel better
    SkyeDS: I decided as for myself I will say something no more than
    twice, because the third time it becomes nagging and I know no one
    listens to that
    evile: yeah...like maybe nobody will listen 99 times, but then the
    100th time, it saves somebody's life.
    SkyeDS: dammit
    SkyeDS: this project is going to take the rest of the time I'm here
    evile: staying busy is good :)
    SkyeDS: I hate it when I have to clean up after someone else and that
    said someone else blames ME
    SkyeDS: I don't mind cleaning up, that's my job
    evile: It happens...
    SkyeDS: but don't make a mess and then blame your mess on me
    [went 'not available']
    evile: *hugs* bye, then. :P
    SkyeDS: [Auto Response] I am currently away from the computer.

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    Jan. 25, 2005

     

     

    From: "kaleon - LJ Comment" <lj_notify@livejournal.com>
    To: evilE
    Subject: Re: bounced email

    Kaleon TrueNight MoonShae (kaleon) replied to your LiveJournal
    comment in which you said:

    > Hey, I sent you email, but it bounced & said your email box was

    full!

    Their reply was:

    Subject: Re: bounced email

    try [xxx] hun, not sure what all is going on
    with jpop anymore.

    Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 13:17:16 -0800 (PST)
    From: "evilE H" <
    evilE
    Subject: Fwd: Glad you made it to OK safe.
    To: Kaleon


    saw this & worried about you:

    "I know I do not deserve the same things that many do,
    I've done enough sin in my life to keep real
    happiness from me, and I accept that."


    You DO deserve the same happiness and love as any
    other person in the world. You really, really do.

    I posted a link in my LJ to an emotional abuse
    checklist, and I most sincerely believe that you are
    a victim of severe, egregious, long-term, possibly
    ongoing emotional abuse. Someone has told you, enough
    times and for long enough, that you are sinful and
    evil and don't deserve goodness, happiness, love,
    respect, etc. that you have come to believe it, and
    probably believe it to be your own idea.

    I don't say that you've treated others perfectly,
    but in the same way a cornered animal will go for the
    throat of its attacker, sometimes you'll give as
    good as you've gotten. I don't say it's right, but I
    do say it's understandable.

    Everyone deserves to be safe. No one deserves to be
    yelled at, slapped, screamed at in public, humiliated,
    told they're stupid, inferior, undeserving, ESPECIALLY
    by those whom they've given love and trust.

    I know you are working on moving on in life, going
    abroad, and doing what you want to do. BUT--If you can
    find a moment to get some support for the emotional
    abuse you've lived through, I would hope and pray
    that you do so.

    Believe it or not, regardless of how my words have
    been twisted by others or by your own interpretation,
    I like you and I wish you the best. Be well. You
    deserve love and happiness, as much as any of god/ess'
    children.

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