Mar. 12th, 2004

evile: (clutter)

    Mar. 12, 2004

     

     

    Very tired this a.m. I was up late last night. It was fun, though.
    There's a writing workshop called "Gynomite" that my friend  terriblelynne
    was in, and last night the group did a performance of some of their
    writing. Some of the pieces were really amazing.

    T's were dull. I don't know if it was because I've seen/heard it
    all before from her LJ and chatting in RL, or the other writers were
    just so talented or what. But...her "i love joan jett" was overlong
    and puerile & her "I love women, I love licking them"...enh.

    One girl felt like my new girlfriend by the end of the show--she was
    this sassy redhead with an amazing voice and hilarious stories about
    her ongoing habit of always picking the wrong man (dating Satan,
    as she put it..) it was awesome. My friend V. had invited me.
    She's one of the poly group & she's interested in sineater. Interesting,
    I guess...She's a lovely person, very smart & cool, with a lot of
    interests & such. It was nice to spend time with a woman friend. It
    doesn't happen often enough :)
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    Dave Blood, bass player of the Dead Milkmen, killed himself. I always
    think of Jen (& Josh the vampire boy a little) when I hear "Punk Rock
    Girl". And Kelly Quintana, the guy in 11th grade who introduced me
    to "Bitchin' Camaro"
    ---
    Wrote about that in my LJ today:

    I first heard of the Dead Milkmen in 11th grade at Roosevelt High
    School. The coolest kid in drama class was a dedicated fan. He wore
    all black. He had beautiful green eyes. He wore a beret every single
    day and spoke French often, usually in a growling whisper as he
    stared down your cleavage. In his non-lothario moments, he
    sang 'Bitchin' Camaro'.

    He is also the one who introduced me to the Violent Femmes "Why can't
    I get just one fuck, why can't I get just one fuck?" he would sing.
    Well, yes. He could get one, but then he never wanted it again.

    You see, he had a very strange fixation with virgins. He'd devote
    endless efforts to obtaining the affections of a girl, and then once
    he had her cherry, he'd dump her. Everyone knew this, and eventually
    it became a matter of him convincing her that no, no, this time it
    was different, he really loved her, and he'd stay with her even after
    she offered up her prize.

    So, of course I lied and told him I'd done it lots of times.

    Because I had a horrible crush on him, he was gorgeous, and I knew
    I'd give in if he went after me as ardently as I'd seen him do with
    other girls. And I did not want to be used and thrown away, even by
    the coolest, prettiest boy in school.

    So I lied and told him I wasn't a virgin, and he never sang Violent
    Femmes in front of me again, only Dead Milkmen. And we laughed and
    had fun and were friends and I liked him better since we didn't sleep
    together.

    So...there's my Dead Milkmen memory, such as it is. The Dead Milkmen
    and Kelly Q, Virgin Killer will be forever united in my mind.

    Goodbye Dave, and I hope you're kickin' some bass wherever you are.
    No more pain.
    ----

    It's sad to lose little pieces of your past like that.

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  • Mar. 12, 2004

     

    they're talking about the book in the 'childfree' LJ community.

    "Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because
    they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I
    don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and
    Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children
    wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And
    Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or
    write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly colour. I'm
    so glad I'm a Beta."

evile: (clutter)
 

    Mar. 12, 2004

     

     

    evile: It's not raining right at the moment, but it's not very pretty
    out. Would you prefer to postpone lunch outdoors to a better day?
    evile: well, foo...maybe you are on your way to the capitol. I guess
    I'll head that way....
    SkyeDS: [Auto Response] I am currently away from the computer.
    SkyeDS: that was nice even with the rain :)
    evile: Yeah. I like it a little warmer, but it was OK
    SkyeDS: aye, twas a trifle cool
    evile: More layers or a harder walk would warm ya up, I guess. :)
    SkyeDS: I was warm when I was walking
    evile: yeah.
    evile: Excalibur's going to be a mud pit. Hopefully I can get out
    there at some point, just not this weekend.
    SkyeDS: not fond of mud unless it's Raji's feet and not mine
    evile: Even that can't be too much fun to clean up :)
    SkyeDS: garden hose
    evile: true.
    evile: boss hovering. urgh.
    SkyeDS: no worries, slow anyway
    evile: I meant to tell you about the show/reading I went to last
    night. Terriblelynne. was in a writers workshop & last night was
    their 'recital' I guess. It was very cool.
    SkyeDS: terri seems to do many very cool things with her writing
    SkyeDS: all t he books I want to write have already been written,
    better than I would have written them
    evile: She's very talented & brave. especially brave.
    evile: A lot of writers draw on mythology, fairy tales, etc, and just
    put their own spin on it. I don't think there will ever be "the last
    Arthurian legend" book. Someone else will come along & find a new and
    interesting way to re-tell it.
    SkyeDS: I've thought about a tarot book, an astrology book, and a
    horse book, and there are many books on each subject that are better
    than I would have done anyway.
    SkyeDS: I still need to reply to that email from Iceland
    evile: That's so interesting that you got a question from so far
    away :)
    SkyeDS: I'm going to give her my recommended reading list if she
    wants to do it herself. Or suggest that if she really thinks it's
    worth the investment, to send them Stateside, where someone like
    myself who both trains and boards would be happy to provide both
    services to her
    SkyeDS: and I'm dying to see a tolt too
    evile: I got a book on gaited horses, and even though it was a nice
    book, I had no idea what any of the gaits look like or feel like at
    the end. Somethings you just have to experience.
    SkyeDS: the Peruvian gait is lateral, Jesse's isn't
    SkyeDS: it rides very differently
    SkyeDS: the Texas Ladies Aside group, that rode the Peruvians in the
    parade side saddle, is doing a two day clinic for $200
    SkyeDS: /me thinks that's a wee bit steep even if they are loaning
    horses and saddles
    evile: WOW.
    evile: it was such a cheezy movie, but I loved the part in Tomb
    Raider 2 when Lara was riding & shooting. I think it was
    sidesaddle...been a while.
    SkyeDS: I will probably do some research into the peruvian gait
    SkyeDS: Randy wants me to explain it to him and I can't
    SkyeDS: I mean I can explain the difference between a gaited and a
    not gaited horse
    SkyeDS: but each Gaited horse has a different trademark gait
    SkyeDS: so Jesse's is not the same as a Tennesee Walker's, which
    isn't the same as the rare Appaloosa Gait, which is not the same as
    the Missouri FoxTrotter
    evile: I think it would be quite a challenge to explain. I think it's
    just something you have to see & feel yourself.
    SkyeDS: which is not the same as the Peruvian's, which is not the
    same as the Fino's, although they both originated from the same stock
    SkyeDS: you have to either be looking at it or be on top of it
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: and on top of it, you can tell the difference in feel but not
    in look.
    SkyeDS: what I do know about the Paso gait (both of them) is that
    they're both laterally gaited, and the gait would allow you to carry
    a glass of water at a running trot without it spilling
    SkyeDS: and I rode it, and it's way cool
    evile: wow
    SkyeDS: and Strider is the prettiest boy
    SkyeDS: he's what is technically called a blue roan but he's
    basically chocolate bay shot through with white
    evile: pretty
    SkyeDS: so he's a dark horse and just as pretty and flashy as he can
    possibly be
    evile: Sounds like they got a good one.
    SkyeDS: he was well hidden among many rhinestones
    SkyeDS: higher priced rhinestones too
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: and that used car horse sales woman did her best to distract
    me too
    SkyeDS: or distract them rather in hopes that they would distract me
    SkyeDS: Karen thinks highly of her because they "rescue" horses
    SkyeDS: but to them it's a business
    SkyeDS: they only do it to make money
    SkyeDS: you don't make money when you're truly rescuing
    evile: no
    SkyeDS: but I don't think it's important enough to debate w/ Karen so
    I just don't say anything
    evile: OTOH, a stiff adoption fee will hopefully keep the animal from
    falling into another bad situation. You assume that if they can
    afford hte fee, they can afford the upkeep of the animal
    SkyeDS: just seems to me that she thinks that this woman is the same
    caliber as the Lone Star Equine Rescue
    SkyeDS: whose site you should check out
    SkyeDS: and she isn't
    evile: I have sent LSER $ in the past. But that's as far as I've gone.
    SkyeDS: somebody who is truly rescuing would, for example, want
    pictures of the place the animal is intended to be kept
    SkyeDS: if not to visit it personally
    SkyeDS: she had one animal there that I could tell was "rescued" and
    she wanted to sell him for $500
    SkyeDS: and she just didn't....she was trying to sell a horse, not
    find a rescue horse a good home
    evile: that's too bad.
    SkyeDS: he was WAY underweight, had SERIOUS abuse problems
    SkyeDS: now, maybe because I was there, she thought that I was
    knowledgeable and would instruct them
    SkyeDS: but I never once mentioned that we rescued Jesse
    evile: nope
    SkyeDS: so she had no reason to assume anything about my level of
    knowledge, I don't care if I was introduced by someone else as a
    trainer
    evile: right
    SkyeDS: Randy said he had talked to the husband before, and it seemed
    to be the husband's business, and so maybe the woman was just trying
    to attend to business and sound more knowledgeable than she was
    evile: could be.
    SkyeDS: but my impression remains that she had the personality of a
    used car salesman
    SkyeDS: and it was funny, I said, I need a round pen, do you have
    one, and she says, yes but it has a horse in it
    SkyeDS: ...well do you think you could move the horse just for a
    moment?
    evile: heh
    SkyeDS: and I take him in, and she says, do you need rope or a
    whip? ...no thanks
    SkyeDS: and then when I was satisfied as to what I was looking for, I
    told Randy to bring Princess in and put her on him bareback
    SkyeDS: and she's all "that horse has never had a child on his back,
    that horse has never had ANYONE bareback, don't you even want a
    bridle???"
    SkyeDS: and Princess got on him and rode him around just as pretty as
    you please, bareback and with halter and lead rope.
    evile: cool
    SkyeDS: Randy has more faith in me than I have in myself sometimes I
    think
    evile: it's good to know people like that.
    SkyeDS: but I know he knows that I wouldn't put her up there if I
    didn't think it were safe, and if it weren't safe I'd throw myself to
    t he ground beneath her
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: besides, if she can't ride him in a small contained
    controlled space like a round pen bareback, then she doesn't need to
    be on him in a saddle anywhere else.
    evile: true
    SkyeDS: he's huge bodied but short and he puts that massive mighty
    neck and small refined head down and follows her around with this pet
    dog I love you expression
    SkyeDS: and he'd rather be loved on than eat
    evile: aww!
    SkyeDS: but sonar0m says that every time so far I work with a horse
    that the owners stand around asking first Randy and then him, what's
    she doin? why's she doin that fer?
    evile: See that would be me, but at least I realize I'm too ignorant
    and dog-ass stupid to have a horse.
    evile: Part of being 'smart' is being smart enough to know you're too
    stupid to do something right.
    evile: I would never inflict myself on an innocent animal of whom I
    was mostly ignorant. I know how to take care of cats & dogs, and when
    to go to the vet, etc. With a horse, I'd have no clue and the animal
    would suffer for my ignorance.I would never do that to an animal.
    SkyeDS: you are intuitive enough to be taught
    SkyeDS: and you know you need to be
    SkyeDS: some people are "counter intuitive" when it comes to horses
    (and birds and probably other species if it came down to it)
    evile: When I took that 1 day 'horse heaven' class I learned a lot.
    Mostly that I was stupid.
    evile: And that a lot of gestures I'd interpet as 'sweet' lovey stuff
    are actually horse-herd dominance gestures.
    evile: So before I'd even gotten into the saddle, I'd basically told
    the horse 'you are in charge, you don't have to do a damn thing I say'
    evile: Maybe when Sweetie gets his puppy I can get my mini-horse :)
    evile: yup. Sidesaddle.
    http://a744.g.akamai.net/6/744/582/000/images.hollywood.com/images/lar
    ge/l_1722905.jpg
    SkyeDS: [Auto Response] I am currently away from the computer.
    SkyeDS: sorry, was babysitting for client, back
    SkyeDS: thought I set my away :(
    evile: you did.
    SkyeDS: no, I mean, I thought I said something when I got up
    evile: I know you're at work, no big thing if you get busy.
    SkyeDS: horse heaven class sounds like f un
    evile: The lady who taught it really knew her stuff as far as horses
    go. Not much tact with people, but...oh well. Hurt feelings are less
    important than broken bones & such
    SkyeDS: I've known many horse people who didn't have people skills
    SkyeDS: and one of the reasons I didn't want to train for money is,
    if you can't get through with superlative people skills or whatever,
    to the stupid monkeys who are fucking their horses up in tehf irst
    place
    SkyeDS: in such a way as to convince them to stop being stupid monkeys
    SkyeDS: then it's an exercise in futility and there's no amount of
    money to be m ade to pay for the heartache and aggravation
    evile: That's got to be terribly frustrating. Especially for someone
    who cares about animals
    SkyeDS: I absolutely hated saying this, adn saying it in the
    restaurant was probably a bad idea
    SkyeDS: but I said to Randy, I can't figure out what
    the "appropriate" time place and way to bring this up is, so here goes
    SkyeDS: don't let Grandpa "teach" your horse, or your daughter
    SkyeDS: they're both exceptional, and he'll just mess things up.
    SkyeDS: I know he's coming from a different background and he's just
    trying to help
    SkyeDS: but if I don't tell you this now
    SkyeDS: then in a few months you'll come to me and want to know what
    the hell is wrong with that damn horse
    SkyeDS: and I don't want it to go there
    evile: yup. Best for all concerned dthat you say something now
    rather than later.
    SkyeDS: and he and Karen nodded, agreed, and said they'd already
    started taking care of it
    SkyeDS: I was amazed at how painless and short the conversation was
    evile: good.
    SkyeDS: if they were all that way, it would be a great business
    SkyeDS: but it's like Hugh
    SkyeDS: some of his clients listen and some don't
    SkyeDS: and they pay you so you try to do what they want
    SkyeDS: but you're in the business of trying to do what they need,
    which is not always what they want
    SkyeDS: and the clients that don't listen create all sorts of heart
    burn and headache
    evile: yeah. You just have to decide if they're worth the $ or not, I
    guess.
    SkyeDS: I know many trainers who don't even train for money anymore.
    They train for free, but just for select few.
    evile: wow
    SkyeDS: I remember how frustrating it used to be to work for six days
    on a problem t hat should never have happened (not the horse's fault)
    and then watch all the work undone in six hours.
    SkyeDS: it's hard to just take the money and keep your mouth shut
    evile: I bet.
    evile: That would be like running a day care and sending a kid with
    head to toe bruises home with its parents at the end of the day.
    SkyeDS: /me nods
    SkyeDS: I would imagine if you made me something and told me how to
    take care of it and I didn't, and I was rude, belligerent or just
    plain obviously not even paying attention when you told me how to
    take care of it
    SkyeDS: you wouldn't make me anything ever again
    evile: *shrug* probably not, but ultimately it's an inanimate thing &
    isn't going to feel anything if it gets ruined. People (a LOT of them
    anyway) dont' see any difference between buying a jet ski or a boat
    and buying a horse.
    SkyeDS: same people who buy a 30K concert grand to put doilies and
    silver picture frames on
    SkyeDS: I know that's inanimate but it still gets me
    SkyeDS: but not as much as it would if said piano were a large
    psittacine or a horse, no
    evile: sure. But the piano has no feelings. it's sad to see people
    doing stupid wasteful things...but it's not abuse to throw a doily on
    a piano and let it gather dust.
    SkyeDS: people with dollars but no sense (cents) have no business
    with large dogs, horses or even little birds, much less medium to
    large psittacines (toos, macaws, grays, amazons)
    SkyeDS: but nothing you can do to stop them
    SkyeDS: and I heard on the radio today about some woman who thought
    she was rescuing someone's dog
    SkyeDS: so she trespassed on their land
    evile: Whereas it *is* abuse, I think, to buy an animal with no
    knowledge of how to take care of it, what it needs, and then neglect
    it or abuse it. Unfo, the animal has to be pretty far gone before
    authorities will step in.
    SkyeDS: and the dog didn't need rescuing
    SkyeDS: and whatever she fed the dog that she thought was starving
    sent him to the vet several times
    evile: good lord
    SkyeDS: so there's a fine balance in there
    SkyeDS: the SPCA won't step in until it's way far gone
    SkyeDS: but then I don't think people should be able to trespass any
    old time they think you're doing something wrong
    SkyeDS: the dog in question was a rat terrier and was perfect weight
    for his breed.
    SkyeDS: I don't think people should be able to trespass (that would
    become a burglar's favorite excuse) but I still think the spca should
    intervene before they do in most cases.
    evile: Some problems are best solved by going directly to the
    source. "Neighbor, I saw your dog outside and it was 17 degrees last
    night. Don't you think you should bring him in at night?"
    SkyeDS: you know, I don't think people would get mad if you honestly
    saved their dog, or their child, from harm in the yard
    SkyeDS: like the house is on fire
    SkyeDS: the child is hanging himself from a tree accidentally
    evile: "Neighbor, your animals keep going through the fence and
    eating my landscaping. Can we fix this?"...and then escalate if the
    neighbor seems inclined to keep the problem going
    SkyeDS: or dog or child has misplaced a body part
    evile: Personally, I'd let the brat hang. Save the animal, forget
    about the kiddo :P
    SkyeDS: I mean, I would be grateful if there was an honest emergency
    and Connie saved my horses (or my child if I had one)
    SkyeDS: but then I know Connie and I trust her judgment
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: she isn't going to trespass and do something harmful in the
    interest of trying to do good
    SkyeDS: but if someone I wasn't close to and whose judgment I didn't
    trust came into my yard "because the horses look thin"
    SkyeDS: course...I run a business now, could be a client
    SkyeDS: but you know, if I see someone out with the horses that
    doesn't knock on the door first or when I'm not home or whatever
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: can you imagine if Sweetie caught someone in the yard because
    they thought he wasn't taking good care of Nikki.
    SkyeDS: I understand that minis can be kept in the house and
    housetrained at least as well as most dogs.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I can't imagine but it would be way cool
    evile: I think so.
    evile: Next time I have 4-10K just sitting around.
    SkyeDS: I don't suppose having a mini would be the same as having a
    puppy in Sweetie's perspective
    evile: Nope.
    evile: I wish the Expo center was better about publicizing their
    events.
    SkyeDS: a large group of us in rockdale are trying to convince the
    city that we'd make more money if we ran teh fair park like the expo
    center
    SkyeDS: instead of just using it for non profit eventws
    evile: absolutely. But they'd need at least 1 FT person to organize &
    keep things going.
    SkyeDS: it would be worth it
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: depending on how much they paid, I'd do it.
    SkyeDS: if they paid me enough that I didn't have to drive to Austin
    to work, I'd have to take the offer to Hugh and say, well, what do
    you think? It pays my bills and I don't have to drive.
    SkyeDS: (and if he upped the money, then I would consider turning it
    down, but that's tangential)
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: is what Linda (my predecessor) did, moved, found somewhere
    else to work (another attorney)
    evile: It happens.
    SkyeDS: all the talk about how to fix Rockdale has been about taxes
    evile: republicans?
    SkyeDS: hello, get people to come spend money in rockdale
    SkyeDS: that's what it's really all about
    SkyeDS: Milam County is Democratic
    evile: heh.
    evile: There are a lot of mini horse farms in TX. I may take Sweetie out
    to see some. See if he'd like them if he sees them up close. Which
    made me wish the Expo center would post their schedule. the mini
    auction was this time of year last time I stumbled across it.
    SkyeDS: I did not go to horse things at the expo center like I should
    have when I lived there
    evile: They *never* publicized them.
    SkyeDS: I think they do on the travis county channel if you have cable
    SkyeDS: and pay attention to the local channels
    evile: no cable.
    SkyeDS: I know.
    evile: I wrote to their webmaster & suggested they put a calendar on
    the website. no response.
    SkyeDS: but that's the only place I ever saw or heard them post what
    goes on out there.
    SkyeDS: I want to join Tetra when I have the money (texas trail ride
    association)
    evile: Sometimes there are paper notices up at the actual barn. But
    you have to drive up, look for notices, write down info, and come
    back for the event.
    SkyeDS: lot of effort
    evile: yup
    evile: all to find out about something that may or may not be of
    interest.
    evile: The rodeo is in town from the 13th-28th(?) ish I think.
    evile: Tom' s never been
    SkyeDS: I don't care as much about the rodeo but I enjoy the fair
    SkyeDS: although it's so expensive now the rides are it's just as
    cheap to go to an amusement park
    evile: true.
    evile: safer too
    SkyeDS: I like to watch the horses work the cows but that's not
    itneresting to everyone
    evile: true.
    evile: mid-level boss hovering about. feh
    evile: I haven't been in trouble at work in a while. It's starting
    to make me nervous
    SkyeDS: don't hang out here with me if they're going to catch you at
    it :(
    evile: naw, my boss is gone for the day
    evile: maybe they finally wised up and realized that I do best when
    left alone to manage my own tasks.
    SkyeDS: Hugh doesn't give a damn so long as stuff gets done, either
    SkyeDS: of course he signed a contract to that effect lol
    evile: That is very cool.
    SkyeDS: and I dont' know if he read it closely or not
    SkyeDS: but he also signed a contract saying that he wouldn't fire me
    w/o 30 days written notice
    evile: he's a lawyer, you'd think that'd be second nature..
    SkyeDS: of course I can't leave him w/o the same
    evile: that's good, though.
    evile: seems like it works in your favor, either way.
    SkyeDS: we can mutually end the contract whenever
    SkyeDS: but one person can't back out w/o 3 0 days written notice
    evile: that really seems like a win-win.
    SkyeDS: I did serious research into what the IRS tests before I wrote
    it
    SkyeDS: so it's solid on 20 different counts
    evile: cool.
    SkyeDS: and interestingly enough after he read it, he started giving
    me more paralegal responsibilities
    evile: heh
    SkyeDS: he's making noises about letting me represent a nurse before
    the nursing board all by myself
    evile: ee!! I'd be nervous!
    SkyeDS: /me shrugs
    SkyeDS: I'm just going to do what he does
    SkyeDS: play the notes the same way, sing the same words. Not like I
    have to write my own music and lyrics (which I know I can't do)
    evile: awesome. :) I'd never have the guts!
    SkyeDS: if the nursing board is anything like the medical board, it
    will be more trying of patience than anything else
    SkyeDS: they behave like autistic five year old high school children
    evile: Dixie Chicks and then Earth Wind & Fire. Trainwreck!!!
    SkyeDS: LOL
    evile: well, as long as there are procedures and whatnot, you can
    just go through the steps no matter how ridiculous they seem, I guess.
    SkyeDS: the medical board likes to yell, scream, insult, and put
    people on review panels who know nothing about the branch of medicine
    in question
    SkyeDS: I can't believe the government of Texas acts that way
    evile: they're people,same as everybody else.And people suck. :)
    SkyeDS: we have a client who went home, was off duty, not on call,
    had wine with dinner, got called back for an emergency labor when the
    doctors who were responsible didn't show up
    SkyeDS: she delivered the baby without a hitch
    SkyeDS: and some student nurse smelled the wine and turned her in and
    now she has to pay Hugh to get her out
    evile: good lord
    SkyeDS: we have a doctor
    SkyeDS: had a patient who was 80
    SkyeDS: morbidly obese
    SkyeDS: knee problems
    SkyeDS: hernia
    SkyeDS: and diabetic
    SkyeDS: refused to give herself insulin shots
    SkyeDS: so he put her on the only medicine he could put her on when
    she wouldn't take insulin, eat or exercise right
    SkyeDS: and the hospital fucked up last time she was in there, and
    she had kidney failure, and the daughter sicced the board on him.
    evile: yuck.
    SkyeDS: someone should either fly a 747 into the board, or drop
    sodium in their plumbing
    evile: I wrote to the MB when I was diagnosed with 'allergies' when I
    had the damn mumps.
    evile: But I feel justified in whatever ass-chewing was then
    administered to the THREE doctors I tried to get to help me.
    SkyeDS: /me nods
    SkyeDS: I wish that my little sister had filed on Zidd when he nearly
    killed her
    SkyeDS: but she wouldn't file on him and wouldn't medmal suit him
    SkyeDS: they chase so many of the wrong people makes me wonder if
    they have time or energy to go after the real problems
    evile: true.
    SkyeDS: wonder what happened to the ones you filed on
    evile: One retired soon after. Not sure about the other 2.
    evile: the clinic they had is gone. too bad, it was conveniently
    located.
    SkyeDS: I have to go to promed tonight after work
    SkyeDS: /me makes face
    evile: Hopefully it will be a good experience.
    SkyeDS: I didn't realize they hired docs who were in trouble and
    couldn't work anywhere else
    SkyeDS: but they've never messed me up either
    SkyeDS: of course I go in there with things that would be hard to
    mess up
    evile: yeah
    evile: who knows? maybe getting in trouble made them more careful?
    SkyeDS: they could however have messed up my neck
    evile: yuck
    SkyeDS: I don't think they did though because I don't know what else
    they could have done besides immobilize it and medicate it
    SkyeDS: and I think I'd know if they messed it up
    evile: hopefully.
    SkyeDS: couldn't get launchcast to work on the laptop before
    SkyeDS: but it's working now :)
    evile: My computer at home had a problem at first, too.
    SkyeDS: slow next little bit
    evile: There's a message thread on one of the yahoo groups
    titled "Who's the Daddy? Does it Matter? I Want a Baby." I know
    better than to even look. But I'm mightily curious. Even though I
    know it would just make me sick & sad to read
    SkyeDS: /me raises an eyebrow
    evile: yeah.
    evile: I am getting over my original notion that all the polys are
    godlike beings of perfect intelligence & such. I now realize there
    are some jerks and assholes in the bunch. But...that message thread
    title is killin' me.
    SkyeDS: have you read it?
    evile: No. I really don't want to.
    SkyeDS: I finally read Stranger in a Strange Land
    SkyeDS: which people say is about poly and wicca and anthemic for
    other out of the box practices
    evile: Great book. The original version, not Virginia's postmortem
    money-making version.
    SkyeDS: I didn't see any wicca in it
    evile: The Church of All Worlds actually does exist as a result of
    the novel. I don't think it follows the book exactly but it's out
    there.
    SkyeDS: I've heard of it, Otter and Morning Glory Zell I think
    SkyeDS: they come to CMA
    evile: Once I passed puberty and realized that I really truly wasn't
    going to be a boy when I grow up, I stopped liking Heinlen so much.
    SkyeDS: but that's not strictly Wicca I don't think?
    SkyeDS: I thought they were like Unitarians
    evile: unitarians with sex, I think.
    SkyeDS: in public rites you mean?
    evile: Oh, I have no idea. I've never been to a CAW gathering.
    SkyeDS: we have sex in our rites, at a certain degree (that I'm not
    supposed to know about) but not publicly
    evile: *shrug*
    evile: the same people who say 'wicca' and 'caw' in the same breath
    are the ones who say 'witchcraft' and 'satanism'. whatever.
    evile: Perhaps a better statement would be to say that Stranger in a
    Strange land is a 'gateway book' to Wicca
    evile: In the same way that Mists of Avalon would be.
    SkyeDS: /me nods
    evile: There's going to be a few pathetic fanboy/fangirl types who
    take the book as 'gospel' and try to re-create it exactly. Then there
    will be others who say "this sounds cool, what is there in RL that is
    like this?"
    SkyeDS: but some people read Mists and 21 lessons of Merlyn and think
    they're druids
    SkyeDS: like half Drandmir
    evile: heh
    SkyeDS: I have to try very hard not to say anything
    evile: well, does it hurt you to have them wandering around calling
    themselves whatever and talking to trees? No? leave 'em alone and
    let 'em play. They'll grow out of it.
    evile: I was a Mists of Avalon silly wicca wannabe. I grew out of it.
    SkyeDS: I try not to get into discussions where I'm going to get
    upset at a lack of research
    SkyeDS: it's not worth losing friends over
    evile: and, who knows? maybe they really get a connection with Spirit
    from their poseur nonsense.
    SkyeDS: however if you're not my friend
    SkyeDS: and you make the mistake of getting in my face about it after
    I've tried to extricate myself
    SkyeDS: you best have done your research, gotten a box of clues and
    eaten an entire box of Wheaties for breakfst
    SkyeDS: because I'm going to eat your lunch and dinner for you and
    then cut you off at the knees if you haven't.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: /me is reminded of a little 16 yo Wiccan who told me I wasn't
    a witch because I don't live by the Wiccan rede
    evile: The way I see it, it's none of m y business how anybody else
    relates to god/ess. The same way it's none of my business what they
    do amongst their partners behind closed doors. If it's not in my face
    and not hurting me and it's making them happy, fine.
    evile: And never let it be said that S/he does not have a sense of
    humor. Things that start out as stupid jokes can sometimes turn into
    very profound experiences.
    SkyeDS: lol more weirdness. Cats, Yes, Duran Duran, Ronnie Milsap,
    Monkees, Poison
    evile: heh.
    evile: It's about time for me to get gone. Home to start cleaning
    house. oh, joy.
    SkyeDS: /me hugs, travel safely
    evile: You, too. good luck with the Dr. today :)
    SkyeDS: I foresee being at home all weekend, maybe at the park in
    round rock when the sun is out
    evile: yeah, it's a 'nest' kind of weekend for me, too.
    evile: *hugs* Take care. Good seeing you at lunchtime :)
    SkyeDS: feel welcome to come laugh at my nest if you want to be amused
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: we should do that lots
    evile: I'm up for it :) Maybe more walking if the weather's conducive.
    evile: *hugs!* Have a great weekend :)

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