Dec. 21st, 2002

12/21/02

Dec. 21st, 2002 10:59 am
evile: (deadmoon)
 

1069what a day...

  • Dec. 21, 2002
     
    I woke up too early, and couldn't really get back to sleep. Was up
    before 7, just laid around having very light dreams until about 10.
    Went out shopping & such. Got some bedroom slippers for when I decide
    to put on PJ's at the Decemberween party. Looked for more xmas lites
    like the white ones we have outside, didn't find any.

    Went home, dropped off stuff, then put on makeup and a different
    shirt for Rio's party. Cruised by Pease Park on my way out, saw that
    E was there & A was driving away. So I parked and went over.
    His left eye was very red, like pinkeye. He was very sad, he'd hit
    a this morning, in front of her parents or while her parents
    were at their house, anyway, and he was very upset with himself,
    knowing in hindsight that there were other ways he could have dealt
    with the situation. Her parents left, and they had been planning on
    staying the weekend and helping them finish moving and unpacking at
    the new place. He was so sad and angry and ashamed of himself. He said 
    that 5 years ago "when they went through some stuff over J" he
    had promised he would never hit her again, and he'd broken his
    promise. He said that in those 5 years she'd hit him, and he'd come
    close, but never had. And he said that something has to change, he
    can't go on being this way, he doesn't want to be the way he was this
    a.m. I told him he needed to get counseling, and that they should
    consider getting couples counseling to work through, that it would
    take a lot of work to get healthy again, but that if he wanted a good
    relationship with her, he would have to work for it. He emphasized
    again that it was *his* fault and A didn't need anything. I said
    I didn't blame A for this, and that it would be easier if I
    could blame everything on her, but they made this mess together and
    they feed off each other's pathology, an dthey''ll have to fix
    themselves before they can repair the relationship or move on.

    She came back, gave him the keys without saying anything to him, and
    then went and sat as far away from him as she could. He told me that
    it would mean alot to her if I went over and gave her a hug and let
    her know that I didn't blame everything on her. So I did. She said
    she had told him 5 years ago that if he ever hit her again, she'd
    leave. But now they've gotten their property and their new house and
    she doesn't want to lose all that. And the horses can be split up
    but Arthur can't. I told her that ARthur is just a bird, an his
    feelings aren't as important as her own feelings & well-being. I told
    her that I had had to do a lot of soul-searching and praying an
    crying before I could get to this point, but I'm now at the point
    where I don't (and can't rationally) blame E's problems or even
    all of the marriage's problems on her. Much as I'd like to. I told
    her they needed counseling. She said she was going to draw up
    a 'roommate agreement' and that for all intents & purposes they'd
    be 'separated' even though legal separation isn't a thing in TX. I
    told her that no matter what she did, even if she divorced him,
    they'd both need help or they'd end up choosing partners who would
    get into the same pathological patterns again--E will pick another
    woman who makes him so mad he hits her, A will pick another man
    who hits her. And the misery will go on. Until A figures out
    what makes her pick abusive men, and E figures out why he picks
    women who push all his violence buttons.

    I can't understand why he'd hit her...I can't say that's 'ok'...it's
    not. But he is my family, I still love him unconditionally and I
    would still kill or die for him.

    She told me she'd kill him if he ever hit her again, and joked that
    she'd end up having to call me to bail her out of jail. If I did post
    her bail, it would only be to take her out in the woods and execute
    her.

    This is the saddest thing about all of this: she said that after E 
    hit her, Her father hugged E and her mother told her that she
    deserved to be hit if she stayed in a relationship where the man hit
    her.

    Which...technically, may be right, but a mother shouldn't be so cold
    hearted as to say that when her child is standing there with a busted
    lip crying.

    I suspect that if she hadn't pitched a shit fit and thrown her
    parents out at that point, her father probably would have hugged her
    next. I wasn't there, so I'm not for 100% how it happened, but I
    imagine that E hit her, she stormed out of the room, E stood
    there feeling sad and guilty and shocked at his own violence, the Dad
    hugged him, and then A came back in at that point, her mom said
    her special caring words, and then A declared war against her
    parents and threw them out.

    Her parents are shitheads; her mom moreso than her dad. I am very
    sorry and sad for her being raised by such dreadful people. But E 
    doesn't need to get sucked into all that pathology. He needs to get
    out, get help, and hopefully get to a point of feeling that he
    deserves better than an irrational, screechy, argumentative, verbally
    {occasionally physically} abusive woman.
     
 

1070 Re: what a day...

 
  • Dec. 21, 2002
     
    So, I took my leave of all that, stopped at the HEB at Congress &
    Oltorf & got chicken, bread, and 2 bottles of wine, then off to San
    Antonio for Rio's party. Got stuck in major traffic, called Jen. We
    hashed. I felt better.

    Got to Rio's, told her and Dee about all the craziness, Dee laughed
    and made me laugh, then Darnell & Mike got back with the ice, and
    Rio's coworker Burl showed up and then Burl's GF Monica and her son
    Zach. Zach and Jaden and Josephine played and were delightful. Burl
    talked about cartoons and old toys, playground fads, etc, from our
    childhood, and we all laughed. I talked about the cruise a bit. We
    just had a really great visit. The food was great, it was wonderful
    to laugh and enjoy myself with people in an uncomplicated, sweet way.

    I am not really sure what next in the whole e/a thing. I really wish
    they'd split up--they just bring out the worst qualities in each
    other. But I doubt they will.

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