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    Mar. 16, 2005

     

     

    Hoovooloo: Sounds like you want a Palm Zire.
    evile: I think it fails on the 'you have to buy scads of extra crap
    to attach to make it do what you want" test
    Hoovooloo: No, it comes complete. The only thing you might want to
    add is a bigger memory card to hold more pictures/MP3s.
    Hoovooloo: It'll take Outlook calendar information. I haven't looked
    hard enough to find Yahoo!
    evile: Hm. I was under the impression that I woul dhave to buy cords,
    cards, and 'cradle' for what I want.
    Hoovooloo: Takes 1.2M pictures, check. Plays MP3s, check.
    Hoovooloo: When I bought my Palm III it came with the cradle. I think
    it's only the cheapest-possible ones that come without.
    evile: is this the palm thingy with the blue gunk on it that flakes
    and peels off right away?
    Hoovooloo: I have not heard that. I don't know.
    evile: If I can just peel that off right away and not worry about it
    getting everywhere, no problem, but if it's not a quick solution and
    I have to tolerate the thing having leprosy I dont' want it.
    Hoovooloo: In the box : Palm, case, hotsync cable, power cord,
    stylus, Software on CD, instruction guide.
    evile: 'hotsync cable' being the thingy to plug into my comptuer so
    it can suck up my lists of shit to do and calendary stuff and what
    have you?
    Hoovooloo: Easy enough to find out, if the display model in BestBuy
    isn't peeling, then it shouldn't be a problem.
    Hoovooloo: Exactly.
    evile: the one I saw at best buy looked pretty mangey, obviously I
    can't test it to see if I can get everythign to peel off cleanly.
    evile: I hate being ignorant, but I am lazy and I don't care enough
    to learn all teh jargon. I just want a thing that does what I want it
    to do.
    Hoovooloo: I want one of these things as a reward for finishing my
    degree (nine weeks, but who's counting?)
    Hoovooloo: I want to make sure this thing will take someone else's
    flash card. Kerry had one of the Palm Treo's with a 2GB card in it,
    that's useable for MP3 playing.
    Hoovooloo: Okay, good. It takes standard SD cards.
    evile: And sales people like you stupid and defensive, ecause then
    they can sell you shit you don't need.
    Hoovooloo: The only reason to go into the store is to abuse the demo
    model to get an impression of how big and heavy it is.
    Hoovooloo: Buy online.
    evile: *nod* that's what I was figuring, but I want to get something
    I know I will be able to use, that will do what I want it to do.
    Hoovooloo: Okay, a 1GB memory card for these is $70. A 2GB memory
    card is $210.
    evile: it says it has bluetooth. someone said bluetooth is bad. I
    don't know why.
    Hoovooloo: Yeesh, Kerry is an early adopter.
    Hoovooloo: I'm sure you can turn the bluetooth off. You'd need
    another bluetooth something for it to talk to. The hotsync cable will
    still work.
    evile: hm.
    Hoovooloo: There are Windows competitors for these. I don't trust
    Windows with much.
    evile: nope.
    Hoovooloo: I want one that can go online using 802.11 wireless
    ethernet, like I have at home and in the office.
    evile: whee! Your babbling is entertaining!
    Hoovooloo: I do my best to entertain you.
    Hoovooloo: Your new icon is positively naughty, BTW.
    evile: I liked her.
    Hoovooloo: Very much a "What's new with Phil & Dixie" vibe
    evile: a what with what and who now?
    Hoovooloo: A cartoon by Phil Foglio that used to run in Dragon
    Magazine when I was 12.
    Hoovooloo: http://www.studiofoglio.com
    evile: Oh, OK then.
    Hoovooloo: Featured a small purple dragon that multiplied when it got
    wet, and every month they tried to do 'Sex in Role-Playing Games' but
    something would stop them.
    evile: aha.
    evile: I wouldn't put it past roninjedi to have read something like
    that.
    Hoovooloo: The one I remember is "The censors say the girls have to
    be wearing more!" / "But those are the biggest hats I could find!"
    evile: *laff*
    Hoovooloo: Looks like Yahoo used to give away a tool for sync'ing
    Yahoo Calendar with a Palm, but now sell it instead.
    evile: I think I remember that.
    evile: I get more than my money's worth out of Launchcast, so I
    probably wouldn't mind, assuming the price was reasonable.
    Hoovooloo: There's a shareware product that'll get your Yahoo!
    Calendar into the Palm format. It's $15 to buy.
    evile: that's not bad, but it does violate the 'extra crap' rule.
    Hoovooloo: Well, yeah.
    Hoovooloo: Are you good with spreadsheets?
    Hoovooloo: I've found instructions to move the information from Yahoo
    to the Palm if you massage the file with a spreadsheet program.
    evile: that sounds suspiciously like WORK. I can do it, but I won't
    like it.
    Hoovooloo: Oh, hang on. Now I've found somewhere that claims
    Intellisync is a free download from Yahoo!
    Hoovooloo: Huzzah. It is free of charge.
    evile: I was really hoping someone would pipe up with "I've got a
    _____ and it does all that and it's great!"....
    Hoovooloo: So your Yahoo! contacts and Calendar should just sync up
    with the Yahoo! software.
    Hoovooloo: I've been using a Palm III for phone numbers, calendar,
    notes, calculator, book-reader and solitaire player for four years.
    Hoovooloo: It's too old to play MP3s or take pictures though. You
    need a new one for that.
    evile: hmm. I will check it out.
    Hoovooloo: This Palm we've been looking at does everything you've
    listed, and will do it all as shipped, out of the box.
    evile: I will definitely check it out.
    Hoovooloo: I'd want to add a bigger memory card, and those are
    cheaper if you don't buy them from Palm.
    Hoovooloo: At $299 ( -$50 rebate) You'd have enough in your budget to
    add a 1GB card.
    evile: I have memory cards that go with my digital camera. If the
    palm takes those, that would be cool.
    Hoovooloo: Are they the really itty-bitty SD cards or the larger
    CompactFlash cards?
    evile: Compact Flash sounds correct.
    Hoovooloo: Those wouldn't cross over then. What model of camera is it?
    evile: Kodak, something or another.
    Hoovooloo: Has Sweetie got an old Palm Pilot lying around? They do a $50
    credit for upgrading as well.
    evile: He had 3 last time I checked.
    Hoovooloo: You should spend a few minutes playing with one. They all
    have the same calendar and contact software.
    evile: they're not mine.
    Hoovooloo: he's using all three? I would assume at least one or two
    are obsolete and sitting in a drawer.
    evile: oh, all three of them are obsolete/broken, and somewhere in
    his work room. White girl don't go in there.
    Hoovooloo: Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
    Hoovooloo: Wish I had a work room.
    Hoovooloo: I could call part of the basement a work room if the
    ceiling were more than 5'6".
    evile: ouch!!
    Hoovooloo: I can stand up, but only if I avoid the joists, pipes and
    light bulbs.
    evile: Moving into a house where we each get our own room to make
    giant messes in was definitely a peace-maker for us :)
    evile: Most houses in TX don't have a basement at all...that's so
    wierd to think about.
    Hoovooloo: They don't need them, the ground doesn't freeze there.
    evile: nope. We didn't get a freeze at all this year, I don't think.
    Hoovooloo: You have to put the foundation of a house below the freeze
    line in the ground. Houses in the Carolinas get crawl-space sized
    basements for that. In New England you have to go a whole basement
    down.
    Hoovooloo: And on that note, it's my night off. I'm going home.
    evile: *hugs* have a good night off!

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