evile: happy Tuesday!
SkyeDS: :)
SkyeDS: any word on Paulie yet? talked to Connie yesterday, all
systems go there.
evile: [brother A] never did show up yesterday. I'm glad y'all didn't get
stuck waiting around for him.
SkyeDS: ah
SkyeDS: well, I told Connie this may or may not happen.
evile: the story now is he's going to come up and leave Paulie in our
backyard if we aren't home.
SkyeDS: sineater explained as much as she needed to know about the
situation and she is very understanding.
SkyeDS: wtf???
evile: I am not sure why he can't be left at L&B's, who have a
fence & [aunt L]s actually home most of the day.
evile: Oh well.
evile: We can't believe anything [brother A]/[the rubber pig] tell us, so I will just
wait & when/if Paulie shows up, we'll go from there.
SkyeDS: situation normal, all fucked up....
evile: yup
evile: How was the rest of your Monday?
SkyeDS: very restful
SkyeDS: I needed it (still need it actually)
SkyeDS: went home, read, slept
evile: good.
SkyeDS: writing that godawful letter now
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: no way it's going to be one page either (sigh)
evile: yuck.
SkyeDS: well, I can't think of any other way to put this but, "please
don't let it happen again"
evile: *nod*
evile: the simpler the better, IMHO. Seems very logical to ask them
to leave others out of the loop & contact you directly with any
questions or problems re: your own dang business..,
evile: and not unreasonable to ask to be dealt with respectfully ie:
no shouting or people hanging up on you
SkyeDS: if I posted this to my livejournal do you think you could
take a look?
evile: Ok.
SkyeDS: how do you do that (read more) thing so everyone isn't
subjected to it unless they want to be?
evile: <lj-cut> to open it, and </lj-cut> to close it.
SkyeDS: ty
evile: no problem :)
evile: Wish Sharjinka would use that more--her entries are always nice
to read & whatnot but very long.
SkyeDS: ack
SkyeDS: it removes all the very necessary formatting
evile: thank goodness for the 'preview' button...
SkyeDS: I would rather it be long and formatted.
SkyeDS: it's too hard to read without the formatting
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: I read it to sineater
SkyeDS: he thought it was harsh :(
evile: *sigh*
SkyeDS: posted.
evile: I usually write, get it all out, then leave it sit for a day
or so and go back and re-read, edit, etc.
SkyeDS: what I was thinkin
SkyeDS: I read half a dozen business writing sites while I was
writing it too
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: all comments welcome of course
evile: Ok
evile: I think you should mention her by name & title, if applicable.
evile: Personally, I never respond well to 'some people said' bla bla.
SkyeDS: you mean Becky?
SkyeDS: all I know is her first name, and she didn't mention having a
title
SkyeDS: and I could f ind no reference to Becky at all on the chamber
webpage
evile: the actual person who called you at the crack of dawn, yelled
at you, hung up on you, and then defamed you to whatsername at the
SCa.
SkyeDS: right
evile: Try to find out her last name & title
evile: the problem is not with the Chamber as a whole, as you said.
So keep it specific to the one person who caused you trouble & did so
under the assumed mantle of 'chamber rep'
SkyeDS: nods. is why I used Chamber rep to refer to her
SkyeDS: get the point across that, um, is this the way the Chamber
wants to communicate?
evile: I'd still try to go with name & title, or name & 'chamber rep'
SkyeDS: that would work
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I don't think she has a title or it would be on the webpage
with everyone else's
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I thought it would be better not to name names because I
don't want it to sound like a personal vendetta
SkyeDS: but if you think I should give her name.
SkyeDS: I don't even know her last name, btw
evile: it's not. I'ts just very 'star magazine' to say 'a person from
your org did this and such and was rude'
evile: I would make an effort to discover her last name, if she was
organizing this or purporting to be the organizer, I'm sure it's
available.
SkyeDS: reverse lookup on phone
SkyeDS: oh good, sineater already wrote down her last name
evile: good.
SkyeDS: I know Karen told Becky she'd be glad to give me a msg
SkyeDS: but that isn't the point
SkyeDS: Becky ought to know better
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and if the response is, she isn't a chamber representative,
well, that's what she put herself forth as
SkyeDS: and the Chamber gave us her number
SkyeDS: and most importantly, that's what the clients see her as being
evile: *nod * And she was also saying she was the event organizer,
right?
SkyeDS: right
SkyeDS: and the event was sponsored by the Chamber
evile: yup. so they need to know that their organizer was causing
people hassles. Or that someone they did NOT designate as their
organizer was puting herself out there as the organizer & hassling
people, either way.
SkyeDS: yep
SkyeDS: I don't see why sineater thought it was harsh
SkyeDS: I didn't say, if you do this again or don't fix it or give me
what I demand, or whatever, I"ll sue you.
SkyeDS: to me, that's harsh.
evile: I'm not sure what I think of it yet.
evile: harsh isn't the word, but ...something.
evile: sit on it until thursday or friday, then take another look &
see what you can leave out or how you can tighten it up. Definitely
keep it to the main issues & focus on what you expect from future
interactions with this person and/or any member of the Chamber.
(which you've pretty much done already)
SkyeDS: food is good
evile: yup
evile: 1 and a half hours until go-time and I'm done with my quota.
WIth all the 'all stick no carrot' treatment I've been getting at
work the last 2-3 years, imagine how motivated I am to work more...
SkyeDS: lol
evile: I do have some papers I can shuffle until time to clock out.
SkyeDS: <looking up tortious interference
evile: what fun.
SkyeDS: probably couldn't establish TI because we don't have a
contract
SkyeDS: even though it did cause damage to a relationship between two
parties
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: tortious interference is a third party's act to intentionally
and willfully interfere and break a contract between two parties,
causing damage to the relationship between those contracting
parties.
evile: but you'd have to prove financial/business losses, hes?
evile: hes=yes
SkyeDS: right
evile: a bit of a challenge this early on.
SkyeDS: point of letter being, you came >< this close to it, this
time. please don't do it again.
SkyeDS: but anyway, I'm supposed to be paring it down, not adding to
it.
SkyeDS: even if I'd lost Karen's business and all the rest of my
business, I don't have contracts, and that's an element of TI
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: ooh in Texas tho:
SkyeDS: Tortious Interference With Prospective Contracts: Different
from Tortious Interference With Contract
The following differences from the tort of interference with a
contract are important when considering a claim for tortious
interference with a prospective contract:
The actual existence of a contract is not required to maintain a
claim for tortious interference with a prospective contract.
Some courts have held that malice, whether actual or legal, is
required to maintain a claim for tortious interference with a
prospective contract.
Fair competition may be a defense to a claim for tortious
interference with a prospective contract
evile: I'd save that one for a 2nd offense, if I were you.
SkyeDS: it isn't leaving my head believe me
SkyeDS: although Denice made a point of thanking us for participating
twice before we left
SkyeDS: my guess is she's going to fall all over herself to make this
right
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and actually I should have termed it Business Disparagement
rather than Slander and Defamation
SkyeDS: although they all three apply
SkyeDS: the first to business dealings and the second two to personal
dealings
SkyeDS: thing is, my business depends on my personal reputation
evile: right
SkyeDS: After trial, a Dallas jury awarded Mr. Hagler $1.5 million in
actual and $14 million in punitive damages. This verdict represented
the largest libel verdict in the United States in 1993. The National
Lawyer described it as one of the most important verdicts of the
year.
SkyeDS: that is a lot of verdict.
evile: wow.
evile: Well, i'm gettin ready to take off and you're AFK. I emailed
you with suggestions. Feel free to take them with as much salt as you
want. *hugs*
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