Apr. 1, 2004
so I walked with A. after work yesterday. We talked about this N
that. She said something, I think in re:religion to the effect that
the rules are so simple, why does everyone have such a problem:
1) take care of yourself. be good to yourself
and 2) take care of others. be good to others.
I mentioned that a lot of people get too caught up in one or the
other and neglect the other point.
Interesting insight.
Apr. 1, 2004
evile: howdy.
SkyeDS: mornin! (just barely)
SkyeDS: Sineater had long talk w/ Aunt Lynn last night
evile: Lynn told me.
SkyeDS: I think we're all meeting Easter weekend at the park in RR
evile: Too bad I'll be recovering from surgery.
SkyeDS: I told Sineater what you said about the picture and so he
apologized to her.
SkyeDS: recovering from brain surgery might be more pleasant than
[Rubber Pig] & kids in park.
evile: I don't think Lynn actually expects thank you *letters*
anymore, but she does like to hear tha tpeople got her present &
liked it.
SkyeDS: /me nods
evile: Not brain. The other troublesome organ.
SkyeDS: I was exaggerating
evile: You haven't met her yet. You never know...you may find a way
to like her, or you may enjoy her stories & her personality in a way
that I do not...
SkyeDS: so I asked him, did you know that the picture was from Aunt
Lynn and not evilE? and he said yes.
SkyeDS: so I'm like, that's great, I was defending you.
evile: I did tell him when I handed it over in Live Oak. But...there
was other stuff going on, as I recall, so he might not have
remembered who gave who what.
SkyeDS: besides that, he talked to Aunt Lynn on the phone about it,
before getting it (I think)
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: adn I also told him, look, roads travel two directions
SkyeDS: next time you feel inclined to say "nobody tells me anythign"
why don't you pick up the phone and make calls yourself.
evile: Life was alot easier when I blamed you for his incommunicado
status. But once I analyzed that rationally, I realized he's always
been that way, long before you were in the picture. :P
SkyeDS: I suspect that he finds it easier to let people think a great
many things are my fault.
evile: And, really, I'm that way too. I just really hate talking on
the phone.
SkyeDS: adn some people are inclined to see things that way no matter
what he says to the contrary
SkyeDS: /me shrugs, just the way it is
evile: How's your dad doing?
SkyeDS: he's walkign, eating, and talking a very little
SkyeDS: he will have to have speech therapy because that's the part
of the brain t hat was damaged
evile: that's an improvement!
SkyeDS: I think he ought to file for disability and retire
evile: He sounds like a pretty stubborn guy.
SkyeDS: he's eligible for full retirement this year as a matter of
fact (60 yo and 28 years of teachign)
SkyeDS: he and my mother are two of the four most stubborn
personalities on the face of this earth.
SkyeDS: she is a Taurus and he is an Aquarius, which astrologically
is the biggest of no nos
SkyeDS: so I use them as an example frequently
evile: It's possible he could be persuaded into retiring and then
going back to work part time "double dipping" they call it in State
service.
SkyeDS: yes, the impossible can be done, it's just very rare, few and
far between
evile: Frame it like he's putting something over on them rather than
admitting he can't work FT anymore.
SkyeDS: whatever he does, if he does something part time, taint gonna
be teachin because he can't teach when he can't talk well
evile: Something administrative, maybe?
SkyeDS: Mom wants him to retire
SkyeDS: I suspect Mom will get what she wats
SkyeDS: I think Mom is probably eligible to retire too, either this
year or next
SkyeDS: they're coming with Gramma midMay to visit
evile: well, especially if there's also a medical opinion to bakc her
up.
SkyeDS: I need to get three fishing poles
evile: heh. good plan.
SkyeDS: I told Mom that 100% of our practice is health law,
representing doctors.
SkyeDS: and that the neuro's and the psychs say that the brain is
just like electrical wiring
SkyeDS: there are pathways
SkyeDS: adn you can forge new ones if you try hard enough
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I ought to make them use great big old bamboo poles without
reels, like I had to use when I was a kid
evile: that would be fun.
SkyeDS: and I wanted to play with the reels andn wasn't allowed.
evile: aww.
SkyeDS: but since I don know nuthin bout buyin no fishin poles, Miz
Scarlett, I think I will wait till they get here, take them shopping
and let them pick out their own.
SkyeDS: I am surprised they don't have any left. When I was growig
up, we had both ski boat and fishing boat.
evile: that would probably be a nice way to while away an hour of 3.
shopping is always good.
SkyeDS: makes me wonnder if they saved my expensive slalom ski when
they sold my skiboat...oh well.
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I was the one that suggested the park.
evile: Being the gadget-freaks they are, they probably have a lot of
Goodwill runs/garage sales/whatever to make room for new stuff and
get rid of old stuff.
SkyeDS: I intend to spend my time with my children
SkyeDS: since I am not necessary to anything
evile: That should be nice. The kids will have something to do
besides trash Lynn's house.
SkyeDS: and if I do well babysitting hers, good
SkyeDS: if not, I intend to get on my low horse and ride away
SkyeDS: (they're too little to be high horses :P)
evile: I had suggested a park, last time Lynn was trying to organize
a get-together. But my favorite park doesn't have a playground (Bull
Creek)
SkyeDS: I suggested the park when nobody sounded thrilled about
coming out to the house <shrug>
evile: And parks with playgrounds have sprogs. Which, in addition to
{Rubber Pig} 's, would be toooo much for me.
SkyeDS: Kelly's kids and little 1 yo Constance have never given me a
moment's worry around all my pretty breakables.
evile: I don't care if I am feeling fine by easter sunday, I'm still
going to be at home recovering from surgery, whether I feel sick or
not I'm going to take it easy on myself and not heap stress upon
stress.
SkyeDS: but X's children were problematic that one time
evile: ?
SkyeDS: and I am so shortsighted, I never know there's trouble
brewing until it's too late
evile: I don't remember it at all.
SkyeDS: well, I didn't know much about childproofing homes at that
point
SkyeDS: first she invited us over for dinner
SkyeDS: then their place got flooded
SkyeDS: when the little girl was still of an age to eat half a piece
of food and then shove the rest in X's mouth
evile: yuck.
SkyeDS: so they came over to our place when we were living with
Janet, for dinner
SkyeDS: and the kid<s> I don'nt even remember whether they had one or
two at that point, I think just onen
SkyeDS: threw food all over the house
evile: wow. that's pretty awful..
SkyeDS: I had just enough foresight to have all my stuffed animals
easily reachable
SkyeDS: adn told them it was okay for her to be on my carousel horse
SkyeDS: but did not realize that with all that beign permissible
SkyeDS: that they would head for the one thign that wasn't
SkyeDS: the curio stand full of porcelain and crystal
evile: of course.
SkyeDS: and then got told when all was said ad done that it was my
responsibility to remove the temptations completely from the living
room ad into my bedroom
SkyeDS: all I know is, when I was of an age to be fascinated by
beautiful thigns (and I still am) like at elderly aunts adn uncles
houses (grandparents brothers and sisters)
SkyeDS: I was raised damn good ad nwell to knonw I did'nt touch
without askign
SkyeDS: (damn keyboard sigh)
evile: I *hate* it when the breeders expect us to childproof our
homes for them. FTS. It's my damn house. control your cuntlings.
SkyeDS: well you know how easy it is to cow me into accepting blame
SkyeDS: tis my greatest weakness
SkyeDS: someone tells me I'm awful and I believe them
SkyeDS: Kelly and the kids have pillow fights at my place but I have
ever worried about any of my stuff
evile: Well, for a woman who supposedly comes from an Old Texas Oil
family & went to Charm School, her children sure don't know shit
about how to behave anywhere.
SkyeDS: what did they do to Lynn's house?
evile: I have no idea. Lynn just said they 'trashed' it.
evile: I wasnt there, we'd made other committments that day.
SkyeDS: there are lots of thigns in my house to fascinate children
SkyeDS: some of which they can play with ad some they can't
SkyeDS: I try to go out of my way, like with little Constance (1 yo),
to put stuffed animals in the floor for her
SkyeDS: and let her beat on my bodhran
SkyeDS: play with the tamborine et
evile: Polite adults/children will ask before they touch. Most
parents dont' seem to be teaching this anymore.
SkyeDS: andn of course the carousel horse can bear a certain amount
of weight
SkyeDS: /me nnods
SkyeDS: it's p roblematic when child heads for altar, shrine or curio
shelf
SkyeDS: if parental doesn't say no
evile: If I can help it, I don't want kids in my house unless I've
met them already & know they behave (Rio & Dee's kids come to mind)
SkyeDS: even those things can stand being handled, if they are
handled carefully, and that's definitely a parental involvement thing
there
evile: yup
SkyeDS: Dee's child is remarkable. (Princess is too).
evile: A couple of yers ago some dumb bitch wrote to Dear Abby
because she'd taken her crotch goblin to a CF friends house, and the
kid started touching the Hummel figurines. TheCF friend smacked the
kids hand and the friend was outraged & wanting Abby to tell her she
was right to be mad.
SkyeDS: what did Abby say
evile: Abby did so, being the brainless breeder pleaser she is. I was
FURIOUS & Iwrote Abby and said "No. It was the MOMS responsibility to
keep the kid from touching the figurines, and if Mom wasn't doing her
job, I don't blame her friend AT ALL"
SkyeDS: I think conventional wisdom (ie the wisdom of vanilla
mundanes) is usually no wisdom at all
evile: Abby was all like "oh, everyone should childproof their homes
for the little visitors!" and I was just....NO.
SkyeDS: by nature of vanilla mundanes being spineless brainless
bipedal chimp sheeple.
evile: It's MY house. I don't have kids so that I can keep pretty,
breakable, poisonous things wherever I like. (well, I have cats, so
that's not 100% true, but!)
SkyeDS: seems like it's easier to Arthurproof than to childproof
sometimes
evile: probably.
SkyeDS: you know he was loose in the house 12 hours one day and
didn't so much as create a singe splinter
SkyeDS: he could have turned the whole house to toothpicks in that
time
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: I got home from work and he's on top of his cage doing
the "I'm all that, I've been loose all day ha ha ha" dance
evile: hee.
SkyeDS: the only thing out of place was something from the top of the
fridge
SkyeDS: I surmise he climbed his daddy's drawing board to get to the
bananas
SkyeDS: but you know how much antique wood I"ve got, and he didn't
touch a piece
SkyeDS: ad there was no poop on the floor anywhere either
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: I meann good lord
SkyeDS: if someone gives me permission to bring Arthur into their
abode, I'm not going to take him in a room where there's wicker
furniture and say, ok, host, now birdproof this room.
evile: right.
SkyeDS: adn contnrary to popular belief
SkyeDS: I do'tn expect people to let us into the house with Arthur
for multiple overnight stays
SkyeDS: I have said may times I am perfectly happy in a hotel
SkyeDS: affords more privacy too
evile: yup
SkyeDS: I can walk naked from bed to bath or whatever
SkyeDS: be up all nnight
SkyeDS: etc
SkyeDS: when people get upset is, well but we want you to stay HERE
SkyeDS: for whatever reaso
evile: wierd
SkyeDS: well, wherever I stay, Arthur is, and that's that
SkyeDS: and, if I stay in a hotel, I"ve got to be able to afford it
SkyeDS: which means, we travel when we have the money to do so
SkyeDS: it's no skin off my nose, one way or the other
evile: yup
SkyeDS: but there are facts of life
SkyeDS: where we stay, Arthur stays, so that's either a motel, or
wherever, there are choices, but you have to choose
evile: I'm glad we just have cats now. Very low maintenance.
SkyeDS: if Arthur were a smaller bird it wouldn't be so hard to find
him a sitter
SkyeDS: but we've left him home three times in our history together
SkyeDS: adn all three times, he cried piteously and loudly nonstop
for Sineater
evile: aww
SkyeDS: I would imagine that to be quite nervewracking for the
caretaker.
SkyeDS: and two of those three times he was in the care of
professional birdpeople.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: how hard is it to say to a child
SkyeDS: isn't that pretty
SkyeDS: you don't want to hurt it do you?
SkyeDS: ask nicely if you can touch it
SkyeDS: and be very careful with it if you do touch it
SkyeDS: ad here, let me help you
evile: yup
SkyeDS: I have never met a child personally that wanted to hurt
something
evile: Most parents cant be bothered. Kids break shit and mangle
animals and they just look on and say "oh, s/he's just a child,"
SkyeDS: on purpose.
SkyeDS: oh nno no no, there will be no mangling or other abuse of my
animals
evile: My sister knew "pet the kitty soft" before she was 1. I know
it can be done, so I don't ever buy the 'just a child' excuse.
SkyeDS: we've worked too damn hard to have babies as perfect as they
come, to have anyone, child or no, ruin that
SkyeDS: I knew that before I knew how to talk
SkyeDS: and I bet you did too
evile: There was a news story about a guy who beat a puppy to death
for biting his kid.
SkyeDS: I hope the spca got him
SkyeDS: I've watched animal precinct before we lost cable
evile: He was not supervising the child's interaction with the puppy,
so you know the kid was probably pulling the damn things ears off
before the puppy finally had enough and bit.
SkyeDS: I would like to be an animal officer
SkyeDS: but we don't have them here
SkyeDS: I have never had a child come down off the horses
evile: I'd like to be a child control officer. "I'm sorry ma'am, your
child's gotten a taste of human flesh, he's going to have to be put
down.."
SkyeDS: that's going to be potentially bad, first time it happens
SkyeDS: would be my luck, will happen next weekend
SkyeDS: (I know, don'nt borrow trouble)
evile: could be.
evile: [Rio's son] came real close to falling off Mirage at Live Oak.
SkyeDS: he did?
evile: yup
SkyeDS: I thought all we did was walk around with sonar0m leading them.
evile: yup
SkyeDS: of course Jess was being overly exuberant and I had my hands
full so I could'nt see the entire time
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: occasionally she forgets that she has brakes
evile: it happens.
SkyeDS: was he scared? did he get over it ok?
SkyeDS: /me feels neglectful now
evile: It happened so fast I don't think he even knew he was
overbalancing and fixing to fall.
SkyeDS: was that when he was mounting?
evile: nope. on the way back.
SkyeDS: I do remember vaguely that it looked like he was going to go
all the way over the side
SkyeDS: as much as I enjoy trips to SM, it's always too stressful
SkyeDS: so no more
evile: too bad, but probably for the best.
SkyeDS: I could wage a battle with the City Council (go over the
heads of the peons I dealt with last time)
SkyeDS: adn I would win it
SkyeDS: but it isn't worth the time or effort
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: ya know...
SkyeDS: if there are vendors at CRW
evile: It would be one thing if you lived there & went out to the
park frequently....but since you don't, it's probably not worth the
fight.
SkyeDS: why should I give rides away for free....
evile: true.
SkyeDS: mercenary thought, bad llama
evile: or at least keep a tip bucket.
SkyeDS: if the other vendors don't give their earnings to HFS can't
see why I should have to right?
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: reasoning I get tired of hearing
SkyeDS: "If you don't bring children into the world and raise them
right, then the only children the world will be the ones raised wrong"
evile: so?
SkyeDS: first, that's not even a true premise, there ARE people
raisign their kids with manners. I know some personally.
evile: and I should bring my brilliant, gifted, elfin adorable
children into the world to be beaten and shamed by the oafish
offspring of the rotten parents of the world?
evile: Sorry, I experienced that, and I won't inflict that kind of
life on an innocent soul.
SkyeDS: I am not happy about STuart abandoning his kids
SkyeDS: I mean, how can he be even a part time parent from three
states away.
evile: *shrug* my mom made it as a single mom and we turned out Ok.
SkyeDS: and the oldest is 5, surely none of the three is old enough
to be travelign constantly
SkyeDS: for all I know, they might be better off without him
SkyeDS: lord knows we don't need them to be raised to be like him
SkyeDS: but I'm still not happy with him
SkyeDS: and if he hits mom up for money while he's there I'll kill im
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: I told her that last night ad she laughed. I wasn't joking.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: I wodner if my chances of meetign the children are less ow
SkyeDS: I want to meet them without him immediately attached.
evile: I think for the sake of your dad's health, you should try and
get along with your brother for now.
SkyeDS: that's why he's in Txka at the moment and I'm not.
evile: good plan.
SkyeDS: Mom told him last time he abused their monetary aid that
there would be no more
evile: *shrug* it's their money, anyway. If the wanna throw it down a
rathole, that's their business.
SkyeDS: but that was before he had the perfect excuse "but I'm
gettign divorced and I have three kids to support"
SkyeDS: that's true too.
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: all I want is to meet the kids
SkyeDS: andn it's not a particularly burning desire,just when I think
about it, from time to time
SkyeDS: burning desire = dually, 4H w/ LQ trailer, babies, a
Friesian, a Gypsy and an Andalusian
SkyeDS: and maybe another bird or two
evile: yup
SkyeDS: so Sweetie will be chauffeur service to future family events
right?
evile: yup. Or I'll drive one of the troopers & he can drive one of
the VWs
SkyeDS: good.
evile: I dont' trust the troopers on long road trips, but they're
fine for in-town.
SkyeDS: same with the ranger atm
evile: I still don't understand why Lynn's going thru all this hassle
to do what {Rubber Pig}/[brother A] wants. If it's important for [brother A]/{Rubber Pig}, they
should be the one calling you, and set up a time for Sineater & you to
meet {Rubber Pig} & her kids...
SkyeDS: Sineater had that thought.
evile: Just my 2 cents. The less I hang with normal people, the less
I seem to understand why people put themselves through unpleasant
situations in order to be 'normal'.
SkyeDS: Lynn is tactful. She withheld her opinion and told Sineater to
form his own.
evile: Good for her.
evile: Like I said, you may find that you enjoy her personality.
evile: Mom likes her.
evile: And [brother A] is happy. So, really...that's the important part
right there
SkyeDS: Lynn said that last night (bout [brother A])
SkyeDS: your mom said why she likes her?
evile: I haven't talked to my mom in a while (I hate talking on the
phone. I feel guilty,and I do need to call her...but. agh.)
evile: {Rubber Pig} is quite beautiful and smart and outgoing. In short
doses, she's probably great fun.
evile: However, when she comes over to your house and spends 2-4
hours talking nonstop and doesn't even pretend to be interested in
what you think or who you are...it gets tiresome.
SkyeDS: would surmise then that your mom has not been that exposed to
her , didn't notice, or is impervious
evile: Mom has met her in a party context, which I think she is good
at. And they've talked on the phone. maybe {Rubber Pig}'s better on the
phone.
SkyeDS: no tellin
evile: And maybe she's just been nervous around me and therefore too
talkative. Maybe she gets better.
evile: I'm really a very mean, judgemental, stubborn bitch
SkyeDS: next weekend should be instructive, one way or tother
evile: But ya know...I work damned hard and my free time is precious
to me, so why should I spend it doing things I dont' want to do with
people I dont' want to see?
evile: Even if they're lovely people & whatnot...
evile: Sineater is sweet with kids, {Rubber Pig}'s kids will probably love him.
SkyeDS: /me ods
evile: And you'll have an out if she tries to corner you and yap at
you for too long "oops, gotta check the
horse/bird/water/saddle/whatever"
SkyeDS: zactly
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I like parks
SkyeDS: I can just ride away
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: from whomever
evile: yup.
evile: Hopefully the weather will cooperate. It usually rains on
easter.
SkyeDS: Joanie thought I would just drive off and leave the horses
and the bird in the park with her
evile: WTF!!?
SkyeDS: lol
SkyeDS: no, I don't think so
SkyeDS: you can have Sineater, but I'm not leaving them
evile: Even if she did have clue 1 how to manage 3 animals, she's not
big enough or healthy enough to do what needs to be done.
SkyeDS: let me revise
SkyeDS: wanted me to leave her & Sineater with them
evile: aha.
SkyeDS: but Sineater doesn't need to handle all three by himself either
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: neither of us handles all 3 alone
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: she wanted me to leave them in the park with them becaue I
told her that she wouldn't be comfortable going to dinner with my HPS
friend
evile: oh.
SkyeDS: so I said, you two stay here if you want to, but load the
chilldren up because I'm taking them with me
SkyeDS: I was'tn about to drop the trailer and just leave
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: ad Sineater did'nt want to stay in the park with his mother
evile: too bad.
SkyeDS: it would have been completely untenable for her to come with
us
SkyeDS: I wasn't even sure if it was ok for Sineater to come with us
until we got there
SkyeDS: I knew we were going to talk shop, and some shop talk can't
be shared
evile: yup.
evile: I should have just called in sick today...I am not getting
jack done.
SkyeDS: I have half the day to myself. Hugh is at a hearing.
evile: Nice chance for you to catch up on mundane tasks that he
doesn't need to bother his head about, I guess.
SkyeDS: wish I were outside :(
SkyeDS: for like the whole week
evile: It was nice this a.m. I was outside waiting for the bus for
about 1/2 an hour after the lease car went byebye.
SkyeDS: everything tur nout ok?
evile: super easy. The guy was half an hour EARLY, I signed some
paperwork, got my copy, and that was it.
SkyeDS: great :)
evile: I plan on writing a nice note to the tow truck co. to let them
know I appreciate that level of service.
SkyeDS: I have to deliver something by hand today
SkyeDS: woder if I ca talk him innto letting me leave early enough to
hit the bank too
evile: He seems pretty easygoing about stuff like that.
SkyeDS: I have never worked for someone so easygoing in my life
SkyeDS: but he can outcuss a sailor
evile: heh. That would be funny to watch/hear
SkyeDS: and is easily upset (but not by me)
evile: tha's good. (not being upset by you, anyway. )
SkyeDS: I just have to stay calm when something upsets him, for his
sake
SkyeDS: like this morning when he couldn'nt find a file he had last
evile: yeah. It's always good to stay level headed when other people
are freaking out. If you can. It's a good quality to have.
SkyeDS: it is the legal secretary's job
SkyeDS: to be calm cool collected
SkyeDS: quiet dignified graceful and serene
SkyeDS: at all times
evile: heh.
evile: I'm afraid I'd need too many drugs to be qualified for a job
like that.
evile: Though I did OK as a service dispatcher. And that was pretty
high pressure/panic mode a lot of times.
SkyeDS: I don't necessarily achieve perfection ;)
evile: nobody ever does. That's what being human is all about--
fucking up...
evile: learning from mistakes, trying to be a better human...or at
least have more interesting, different, and larger fuckups.
SkyeDS: yep
evile: A friend of mine told me that the main thing about growing up
is your mistakes become more expensive. sad but true
evile: [brother A] left his San Antonio # on the machine at home. I think
I'll email that to Sineater and let him take it from there, get out of
the middle.
SkyeDS: good idea :)
evile: And Its probably too late, but I really ought to NOT poison
people against {Rubber Pig} by stating my opinions before they have a chance
to meet her and decide for themselves what to think of her.
Apr. 1, 2004
Sineater: [offline] Goddammit!!!!!!
Sineater: [offline] Goddamn I4Q!!! Buttfucker made me dl a meg and a
freakin' half update before it would let me connect-- and goddamn
telemarketers kept calling in the fucking middle of it!!!
but now i am updated to latest version -- 4Q2!!!
Sineater: [offline] Goddammit!!!!!!
Sineater: [offline] Goddamn I4Q!!! Buttfucker made me dl a meg and a
freakin' half update before it would let me connect-- and goddamn
telemarketers kept calling in the fucking middle of it!!!
but now i am updated to latest version -- 4Q2!!!
evile: aww! bummer. Talk to ya later :)
evile: I use ICQ to go so I never have to download anything...
Sineater: hey yas
evile: howdy
Sineater: /me no like i4q. waaah! :P
evile: sorry.
Sineater: how are you?
Sineater: sorry about car. :(
evile: Sorry? Nothing to be sorry about.
Sineater: o. ok
Sineater: talked to lynn last night
evile: The lease expired, they picked it up. No fuss, no hassle.
Sineater: well glad no hassle then
evile: I'm glad.I have [brother A]'s San Antonio # on the machine at home, I'll send it to
you so you can just talk to him directly. I think we've had the whole
discussion about 'he said/she said' being bad a few times before...
Sineater: *sigh*
evile: yup.
Sineater: hard lock. most annoying
evile: s*it happens.
Sineater: ... so ...
evile: so. I hear y'all are spending next Sunday with [brother A] & his
fiancee & her kiddos & Lynn & Bob. Suckas!
Sineater: would like to meet this {Rubber Pig} creature.
evile: She is very pretty, very intelligent, and talks talks talks
talks talks.
Sineater: lynn prefers to withhold her opinion at this time, she said
evile: First time we met her, I thought "oh, well, maybe she's just
nervous about meeting everyone" and let it pass.
evile: It's probably best for you to meet her yourself & go from
there. I shouldn't have talked smack about her to Skye_ds :(
Sineater: and i understand she merried trey, divorced trey, shacked
up/married another guy, then went back and married trey again... and
now is divorcing trey again... to marry [brother A].
evile: That's the story. I think there may be more to it. But for
whatever reasons this is the public story.
Sineater: the reason why i want to know as much as possible is that
yeah, there's a lot more to it than that. :(
Sineater: uh, this is the same trey that used to get [brother A] into
trouble and steal his gi joes and transformers, right?
evile: Well, as in the case of your own rather complicated marriage,
there are things that are nobody's business but yours and Skye_ds's...
evile: So coming from that perspective, I'd think you'd be able to
empathize & respect the 'public story' until such time as [brother A]
volunteers extra info.
evile: And [brother A] usually manages to tell people what he thinks they
want to hear, rather than whatever the reality may be, anyway. He's
happy, he's not being hurt, so I am trying to leave it at that.
Sineater: afraid there is a "yet." to this story
evile: there may be. :(
Sineater: like in a year or so when she dumps him to go back to trey,
for instance...
evile: possible.
Sineater: foo
evile: They may be giving poly a try, but not wanting to be 'out' to
the families.
evile: foo?
Sineater: then why divorce? and remarry?
evile: Trey may have decided to be gay once and for all, and wanted
his wife taken care of before he went off to his new life.
evile: I have no idea.
evile: I am thinking that if [brother A] decides it's any of my business,
he'll tell me.
Sineater: that's really the part that strikes me as odd. have no
problem with [brother A] entering into a committed relationship with a
couple. but the married! divocred! married! bit worries me.
especially w/ 3 kids involved.
evile: Maybe she just wants to have a big party to celebrate finding
her new man and doesn't know any other way to do it.
Sineater: ...but... but... didn't she just find a new man a little
while ago??? ... blink blibk
evile: Her middle one is 5, so the last marry/divorce/shackup cycle
was about that long ago.
Sineater: k...
Sineater: question of why divorce in the first place also... was it
trey's idea? her idea? involve financial problem? emotional problem?
abuse? drinking? alien abduction? republicanism? what?
evile: You may really enjoy meeting her. Lynn says she's better when
the kids are around. And Lynn says the kids are very sweet, if a
little desperate for attention.
evile: The only criticism I've heard of Trey is that he's too stern
to the children and he doesn't spend enough time with them.
Sineater: she did say [brother A] was good with the kids, and seems to be
happy
evile: That's the important part--[brother A] is happy.
Sineater: as for trey... well... i realize it's been around 20 years
since he used to swindle [brother A] out of his toys and get him in trouble
doing stupid sh1t...
Sineater: yeah. it is.
evile: All of [brother A]'s friends were like that. "Hey, [brother A], let's light
your Millenium Falcon on fire in the driveway!"
Sineater: i know
evile: Do you remember, or were you around, when [brother A] & Trey got
caught playing 'grownup' games with one another? That was a fun
time...
Sineater: no, think i missed that
Sineater: that would actually be better in my mind. a man on the way
out is likely to be bitter. not good
evile: Well, that's the only thing I have to go on to frame my 'trey
is gay' theory, but...it left an impression. Plus he was kind of
gothed-up (makeup/jewelry) at the NYE party we went to
Sineater: would explain a lot
evile: but I knew plenty of hetero goth boys & crossdressers in my
time...biblically. So it may not mean anything.
Sineater: frilly undies and a big c*ck!
evile: indeed.
Sineater: yeah been listening to a lot of adam ant lately
evile: I am a big sister, I'm going to worry about my little
brother....regardless. The worst idea I've come up with so far is
that this is a game Trey and {Rubber Pig} are playing together to turn each
other on and [brother A] is just their fool...but, again, I have ZERO to
base that on. Just worry.
Sineater: if that is the case i will find out.
evile: Well, for now we have to take things at face value, be happy
for [brother A]'s happiness, and just kind of hope for the best. Or at least
that's where I'm at with it.
Sineater: nod
evile: Keep the lines of communication open, be here if/when things
go bad...that sort of thing.
Sineater: yeah. big sis kind of thing :)
evile: Hopefully I've learned from my mistakes...
Sineater: i would think so
evile: we'll see.
evile: Whether or not I like {Rubber Pig}, that is just going to take a back
seat to the fact that I *Love* [brother A] with all my heart, I want the
best for him, and I want to be there for him, whenever, whatever.
Sineater: that sounds like the best approach to take
evile: yeah.
evile: trying to reconcile that with the fact that the thought of
being around her and her nonstop mouth makes me exhausted just
thinking about it. Toss 3 sprogs into the mix, and that's a journey I
just don't wanna take...*sigh*
Sineater: hee :) that's where the horses come in. sprog control
evile: I don't have horses.
Sineater: no, we do. talking about everybody meeting up in old
settler's park, or maybe out here
evile: I am having surgery the 8th, I am not committing myself to
anything during my recovery time. I may be up to it, I may be tired &
owie.
Sineater: not fun... but at least it will finally all be taken care
of, nu?
evile: Last time I saw {Rubber Pig}, they had called me at home on a Sunday
and I was sick as a dog (allergies)...{Rubber Pig} insisted on coming over
and making soup for me. Very sweet. BUT ...then she talked at me for
over 2 hours when I was just tired and icky-feeling and wanting to
sleep.
Sineater: <shakes head sadly>
evile: Maybe she's just codependent.
Sineater: a distinct possibility
evile: Oh well. I really hope y'all like her & the kids & everyone
has a great time.
evile: It would be great for Skye_ds to have more female friends, and
a friendly female in-law and such. And would help [brother A] keep in touch
if his new family liked y'all & wanted to come see the critters &
such.
Sineater: hope i do too. don't know what i will do if i don't. wail
and tear my hair out maybe
Sineater: good point
evile: Well, I'm just about done with work for the day so I need to
make my rounds & get paper off my desk.
Sineater: k
Sineater: have fun, goodnight
evile: *hugs* Love ya!
Sineater: don't forget to file your tps reports
evile: heh :P
Sineater: you too :)
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