ICQ w/Sylvana

  May 29, 2003

 

 

Sylvana: User 177569138/Sylvana has requested your authorization to
add you to his/her contact list
"Please authorize my request and add me to your Contact List. Sylvana
ICQ#"
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Sylvana: Hello Eek! I got this from Terwin. How are things?
evile: good. How are you?
Sylvana: Ok
evile: I'm wasting time at work...Not much motivation today :P
Sylvana: I hear that. Heck I am still trying to find a job.

evile: The market sucks so bad right now...
Sylvana: Tell me about it! I can not even get at job at Mc Yuck's,
that is how bad it is.
evile: Hobby Lobby was hiring when I went there about a week
ago...they are religious freaks, but...?
Sylvana: For what positions and which location?
evile: It was the location up near 183 and Anderson. I just saw
the "now hiring" sign on the door, so I don't know anything else.
Sylvana: Ok at least that one is on a bus line. I have even applied
at the NAMC hospital for the food court. Nothing so far. Really do
not want to go back into food service but hey you get what you can
nowdays.
Sylvana: So have you heard from Skye lately?

evile: Umm...I saw her on the 18th at the Drandmir Nobles Tourney. I
think that is the most recent.
Sylvana: Well she is wanting to run for Regent of BD and so needs to
pay dues so she can vote. I will try to get ahold of her before this
weekend.
evile: Oh, dear. Last we talked she was saying she didn't want to do
politics. Wonder what moron talked her into it.
evile: I don't know if you've tried this site yet, but it might help
with the job search:
http://www.twc.state.tx.us/customers/jsemp/jsempsub1.html
Sylvana: No I haven't thanks. I think it was Goofy or Thax that was
telling her that she would be a goos Regent. I on the other hand have
higher aspirations....I am going to be Queen!
evile: skye_ds has kind of a 'life cycle' with groups she joins. She
joins, stays on the fringes, gets dissatisfied with the fringe, gets
involved in the politics, gets pissed off when people don't do what
she wants them to, and quits. She's done this with online gaming group
(s?), pagan groups, student groups, I think she did this with HFS at
some point in the past (like 1997?-ish)....Not a good idea. She
doesn't deal with dissent very well.
Sylvana: So I ave noticed!!!!;-)
evile: Oh well. sineater works nights now, so I never see him at HFS
stuff, anyway. If she quits, it won't make me any difference. I'll
just have to listen to her bitch about what a bunch of ingrates HFS
is, bla bla.
evile: She & sineater quit (were expelled from?) the Council of Magical
arts at least 5 years ago due to pet issues, and I STILL get to hear
about how much CMA sucks every time the subject comes up.
Sylvana: Especially BD. Don't get me wrong I like the horses and all
but they really have no place being in Nirvana. Especially when she
gallops them right into peoples laps! I am just waiting for that
accident to happen.
Sylvana: I wonder why!!!!
evile: I still get a frisson when I remember the day Alex(?) lost
hold of Jessie's reins and I had to grab her to keep her from running
into folks under the trees. Thank heaven I didn't freeze up in that
situation (I usually do!)
evile: It's wierd...all the things she says she likes best at HFS
(bardic, roleplay, etc) can't really be done when she's having to
watch the critters. So I wonder why she's so insistent on bringing
them everywhere.
Sylvana: I had to grab the oxygen tank that onew of our members uses
practically out from under Jessie's hooves. That was scary especially
if Jessie got startled this lady and her husband could not get out of
the way fast enough.
evile: ack!!
evile: Maybe if someone tried to frame it in terms of "giving the
younger folks a chance for leadership, which they've never
experienced" she could be talked out of running for office.
Sylvana: I do not know. Heck I wonder if she would even be able to
full fill the duties of an office. Regent has certain things amended
to it that one has to fullfill...like publishing(actually putting it
together) the arts and sciences mag, working closly with the monarch,
helping with organizing events, etc...
Sylvana: Actually I think when she finds out what amount of
responsiblity is involved she will back out!
evile: Her 'talent' is 'management'. It's possible she'd delegate the
tasks effectively enough to make it work.
evile: It's possible sineater would have to do most of it so I'd see more
of him. That would totally work for me :)
Sylvana: Possibly but it still can get overwhelming. Yeah sineater seems
to be a nice guy, though to hear her talk he isn't.
evile: That whole thing is very sad for me. I am a very
straightforward, fairly tactless person, so I have had a bad learning
curve on dealing with their relationship and managing to keep my
sanity intact.
Sylvana: What I don't get is why she isits on treating them all so
badly(all 3 of them that is)
Sylvana: *insists*
evile: Because they stick around to put up with it. I have watched
her abuse sineater (and the bird, and the horses) for 10 yrs now, and as
sad as it is for me to realize it, there is something there that sineater
feels he needs/deserves, and I can't do anything to help him if this
is what he thinks he wants.
evile: I don't know Malamorf's [sonar0m] story,but Kaleon & sineater both have
insane/abusive relationships with their mothers, so maybe they are
just re-creating what's most familiar to them as a 'family'
relationship.
Sylvana: I have been through 2 abusive marriages so I know the
feeling. I have told him over and over again that he does not desreve
to be treated that way, and if needs be he can come here to Terwin
and mine apartment. So far he just does what ever she demands. I feel
awful for him Perhaps, as for Malamorf..his mome is trying to get him
away from her as quickly as possible.
evile: Wrong tactic--we tried to tell sineater skye_ds was wrong for him,
we tried to get them apart when they were dating, it just made him
more sure that he wanted her. Kaleon's mom once told him "That witch
is not welcome in my home ever again!" so he came to Austin and
didn't see his parents for a while.
Sylvana: So is that why Skye's parents took sineater's side when he
finally(or so she says) fought back?
evile: I have no idea what really happened there. She has a really
screwed up relationship with her parents, esp. her mom, so I have no
idea.
Sylvana: She said that sineater punched her in the mouth and that he is
always being abusive to her. I don't think so since it doesn't fit
him at all/
evile: That's her perspective. Kaleon and I were friends for a little
while when they broke up for a bit, and he said that while he lived
with them, he saw her hitting sineater regularly, and that what made him
finally move out is when she smacked Kaleon upside the head.
evile: The boy isn't quite smart enough to get away completely, but
is not as screwed as sineater.
evile: I'd have to say that if someone hit me every day, multiple
times, I wouldn't be too surprised to find myself hitting back after
5 years of NOT retaliating...
evile: It' s not something I can really think about too much, it just
makes me too sick and sad & homicidally rageful.
evile: I feel bad for her, too. I used to just blame her for
everything, but they are both at fault for how bad and sick the
marriage is.
Sylvana: Well then again if I see it I will call the police and I
know enough of being abused to make it stick. She claimed that sineater
called the police on her and filed false report but I don't know I
think he was a bit afraid to go through with it. Just let me see it
and it will all go down..after all I someday plan on volunteering at
SafePlace.
Sylvana: True they both need to stop and either seek counseling or
seperate. I don't think at this point it will get any better for
either of them.
evile: She is pretty careful not to do it in front of people she
isn't in control of. I think she was testing her control of her
parents by hitting sineater in front of them.
evile: I have never seen her hit him, or him hit her. The closest it
ever got was I overheard her say "I will hit you again if you
dont..."
evile: Nobody deserves to be hit. Especially not by someone they've
taken vows of love with...He shouldn't hit her. She shouldn't hit
him. It doesn't matter if her blows dont' leave marks or dont' hurt
and his do...it's wrong.
Sylvana: Yeah well one day she will get too comfortable one day and
that will be all that I need. Yeah I have heard that too from her and
that was throuh a closed door. Heck maybe I should change my major
and go into counseling.
Sylvana: That is true and it belongs to that cycle...everything is
ok..it starts to get rough...then someone snaps...then comes the
apology...then everything fine again.
evile: You can only help people who want to be helped. Obviously
there is something in the relationship that is meeting their needs,
more positive than negative consequenses for staying together and
leaving things as they are. Sad. Very sad.
Sylvana: I think it has alot to do with attention getting..whether it
is positive or negative attention...That is the most that I see them
sharing at this point...besides money.
evile: yup.
Sylvana: Well I am glad I am not the only one who has seen what has
been going on. I unfortunately cannot turn a blind eye upon what is
going on for fear of how it may affect the BD kingdom. As it will at
some point in time. She said something the other day about sineater being
her slave because of a slave contract, have you heard anything about
that?
evile: Kaleon was telling me something about it. It made very little
sense to me, and since sineater and/or skye_ds sabotaged our friendship, I
haven't heard anything else about it. Neither sineater nor skye_ds has
said anythign about it to me, probably because they know I"d be
offended and distressed.
Sylvana: Well if it is true then that is in violation of a federal
law as per the 15th admendment which abolished slavery in the US. She
could go to Federal prison for that.
evile: *shrug* there are plenty of people in the BDSM community who
have similar arrangements. If it is willingly agreed to by both
parties, I dont' think the law can do much.
Sylvana: She said that she made him sign it so that way they wouldn't
have to sell the house and animals as would be the case in a divorce.
Sylvana: So to me it seems like it was a forced enslavement. That has
nothing to do with HFS at all.
evile: Piss on that. It wouldn't hold up in court
evile: Now, sineater may think it does and that is why he wont' divorce
her, but he is smart enough to do the research and figure things out,
if he really wanted out.
evile: They already cant' afford to care for the animals properly, I
can't imagine how awful it would become for them without sineater's
income...
Sylvana: True and that is the one thing that I think Skye fears the
most...that sineater can actually have a head on his shoulders and can be
a man instead of a mouse!
Sylvana: Well I need to get back to looking for a job. Nice chatting
with you, hope to see you sometime at an event. Bye for now.
evile: take care! good luck!