eugh, get it offame!
Jul. 8th, 2011 05:04 pmjust got done having an exchange with one of the most passive agressive people i've met in a while (pot, kettle, shush. I know. Workin on it!)
The unofficial organizer/alpha bitch/cutest geekette of the GeekCruise gang posted today about changing our cruise due to some of the ports are in countries having political unrest.
I responded with my concerns--that it had taken quite some time for the group to settle on this sailing, that some folks had already booked and paid deposits, and that she had not liked Jamaica for safety concerns, but those of us who went did fine. And if Carnival has to skip a port, we'd be likely to pick up some freebies or discounts to appease us, so win, even if we skip a port.
Her reply was 'I was not making up how dangerous Jamaica is, I'm just trying to keep people safe. Sorry for caring about peoples' safety'
So I called her on the passive agressive, and clarified that i was not calling her a liar re:Jamaica, restated my points, and asked her not to pull any more passive agressive on me because it's 'unhelpful, unfair, and unkind'
She then deleted the whole conversation and posted 'everything's shiny'
I dislike this sort of non resolution and non discussion. I dislike being characterized as someone who does not care about everyone's safety because I would not do what she wanted me to do.
I did my best to be honest and kind. It may not have been THE best thing to do, but it was MY best, and I'm not angry or ashamed of myself. I will feel sad if we end up losing her and the geek cruisers as friends over it, but I will not be angry or bitter. I will accept the consequences.
Oh well...I'm annoyed but I will not die. I like the geek cruise folks but I will not feel too bad if they all end up following PA Alpha on another sailing.
the deletery bits ====
Her:
"No that I'm looking to change "the plan", but it's been mentioned that two of our three ports in the last few years have been known to have cruise ships not even stop at them due to the violence in them from the whole Mexico goes esplodey thing. With that in mind... wanted to get a feel for thoughts on that and throw out what I see as a couple of options: Keep what we got and hope we stop at the first two ports and if we don't, keep partying on the ship OR see if those who have already booked can change their reservations to a week before/after to do the same cruise itinerary we had last year and just change up the excursions this time around. Thoughts?"
J posted:
"I think she's looking at iteneraries that do not include Belize and Honduras."
Her:
"Just wanting to give everyone a heads up on the angry political climate and yeah, ya'll were great in jamaica cause no one went wandering around the city proper, was all excursions or staying in the terminal. I wasn't making up my concerns over jamaica. My cousin [------] and her husband had a man pull a rather large knife on them when they were in the city proper and demand [-----]'s purse. Wanted to make everyone aware of what's going on now out two out of three of our proposed stops should folks want to consider switching to a week that doesn't take us top these ports. Sorry for trying to look after folks."
And fooey, I don't have any of mine, she deleted them and my own FB posts don't go to my gmail box.
Oh well. Probably for the best.
The FB email:
Apologizing for being a bitch
I want to apologize for being a bitch today. [ex BF] has frakked my emotions to the point where everything looks like I'm at fault and have done something wrong and can't do a damn thing right and that's how your reply came across with me in this stupid state and frame of mind and I did not mean to take out my emotional shit on you cause you're incredibly too wonderful and no one including myself should ever do that to you.
I'm very sorry for how my response came off and for misinterpreting yours and can only beg forgiveness. Going to stop making posts to anywhere that isn't my own fb wall for awhile until i can calm the fuck down and get my rational head back on if Larry hasn't completely destroyed it :-(
Again I'm so incredibly sorry, [bramblekite]. promise this is not the 99.9% of the time me.
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I deleted the posts because I don't want my ugliness to effect anyone else, had nothing to do with you. I was in the wrong so took the posts down to keep the invite and group shiny. figured deleting the posts would hold off more confusion and hopefully let me explain myself privately instead of publicly
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Only a couple people know what an ass [ex BF] turned into after we broke up and I about had it yesterday and am still apparently experiencing the post-explosion side effects of being completely retarded and out of my head from anger at him and the things he's said.
really don't want to plaster that out on the geek cruise wall if i can help it.
I'm truly sorry.
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Me to her:
*hugs* Take care of you; maybe we can get together and bitch about men for awhile sometime :)
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her to me:
Would love that. The things they'll say and do when you give them what they want and it hurts them still manage to surprise me... *hugs* thanks for being awesome
The unofficial organizer/alpha bitch/cutest geekette of the GeekCruise gang posted today about changing our cruise due to some of the ports are in countries having political unrest.
I responded with my concerns--that it had taken quite some time for the group to settle on this sailing, that some folks had already booked and paid deposits, and that she had not liked Jamaica for safety concerns, but those of us who went did fine. And if Carnival has to skip a port, we'd be likely to pick up some freebies or discounts to appease us, so win, even if we skip a port.
Her reply was 'I was not making up how dangerous Jamaica is, I'm just trying to keep people safe. Sorry for caring about peoples' safety'
So I called her on the passive agressive, and clarified that i was not calling her a liar re:Jamaica, restated my points, and asked her not to pull any more passive agressive on me because it's 'unhelpful, unfair, and unkind'
She then deleted the whole conversation and posted 'everything's shiny'
I dislike this sort of non resolution and non discussion. I dislike being characterized as someone who does not care about everyone's safety because I would not do what she wanted me to do.
I did my best to be honest and kind. It may not have been THE best thing to do, but it was MY best, and I'm not angry or ashamed of myself. I will feel sad if we end up losing her and the geek cruisers as friends over it, but I will not be angry or bitter. I will accept the consequences.
Oh well...I'm annoyed but I will not die. I like the geek cruise folks but I will not feel too bad if they all end up following PA Alpha on another sailing.
the deletery bits ====
Her:
"No that I'm looking to change "the plan", but it's been mentioned that two of our three ports in the last few years have been known to have cruise ships not even stop at them due to the violence in them from the whole Mexico goes esplodey thing. With that in mind... wanted to get a feel for thoughts on that and throw out what I see as a couple of options: Keep what we got and hope we stop at the first two ports and if we don't, keep partying on the ship OR see if those who have already booked can change their reservations to a week before/after to do the same cruise itinerary we had last year and just change up the excursions this time around. Thoughts?"
J posted:
"I think she's looking at iteneraries that do not include Belize and Honduras."
Her:
"Just wanting to give everyone a heads up on the angry political climate and yeah, ya'll were great in jamaica cause no one went wandering around the city proper, was all excursions or staying in the terminal. I wasn't making up my concerns over jamaica. My cousin [------] and her husband had a man pull a rather large knife on them when they were in the city proper and demand [-----]'s purse. Wanted to make everyone aware of what's going on now out two out of three of our proposed stops should folks want to consider switching to a week that doesn't take us top these ports. Sorry for trying to look after folks."
And fooey, I don't have any of mine, she deleted them and my own FB posts don't go to my gmail box.
Oh well. Probably for the best.
The FB email:
Apologizing for being a bitch
I want to apologize for being a bitch today. [ex BF] has frakked my emotions to the point where everything looks like I'm at fault and have done something wrong and can't do a damn thing right and that's how your reply came across with me in this stupid state and frame of mind and I did not mean to take out my emotional shit on you cause you're incredibly too wonderful and no one including myself should ever do that to you.
I'm very sorry for how my response came off and for misinterpreting yours and can only beg forgiveness. Going to stop making posts to anywhere that isn't my own fb wall for awhile until i can calm the fuck down and get my rational head back on if Larry hasn't completely destroyed it :-(
Again I'm so incredibly sorry, [bramblekite]. promise this is not the 99.9% of the time me.
----
I deleted the posts because I don't want my ugliness to effect anyone else, had nothing to do with you. I was in the wrong so took the posts down to keep the invite and group shiny. figured deleting the posts would hold off more confusion and hopefully let me explain myself privately instead of publicly
------
Only a couple people know what an ass [ex BF] turned into after we broke up and I about had it yesterday and am still apparently experiencing the post-explosion side effects of being completely retarded and out of my head from anger at him and the things he's said.
really don't want to plaster that out on the geek cruise wall if i can help it.
I'm truly sorry.
-----
Me to her:
*hugs* Take care of you; maybe we can get together and bitch about men for awhile sometime :)
-----
her to me:
Would love that. The things they'll say and do when you give them what they want and it hurts them still manage to surprise me... *hugs* thanks for being awesome
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Date: 2011-07-10 06:24 pm (UTC)I know you can book more than 2 ppl per room, but you've got to work it out with the cruise line. 4 of our group shared one room last time, to save $. In that way, it worked well, as far as interpersonal stuff, and space considerations, I'm not sure it worked well at all. ymmv :)
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Date: 2011-07-10 08:43 pm (UTC)I appreciate the invite in a HUGE way. I'll chat with Sidney about it. It's after my school year (projected, if I actually get accepted for Spring), and that's been my big consideration when planning trips lately.