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following a link from a friend-of-friend's LJ, I am led once again to The Usual Error. here's an exerpt:
“I’m just saying” is another poison dart. You can make any sort of inflammatory or insulting comment, but as long as you repeatedly say, “I’m just saying,” it is difficult to socially justify calling you on your rudeness or meanness. “I’m just saying” is often accompanied by a defensive gesture of palms facing outward, nonverbally reinforcing the message of “Don’t blame me! I said something, but I just said it, so that means I don’t have to take any responsibility for it!” Being socially acceptable doesn’t make it right or good to verbally hurt others.
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“I’m just saying” is another poison dart. You can make any sort of inflammatory or insulting comment, but as long as you repeatedly say, “I’m just saying,” it is difficult to socially justify calling you on your rudeness or meanness. “I’m just saying” is often accompanied by a defensive gesture of palms facing outward, nonverbally reinforcing the message of “Don’t blame me! I said something, but I just said it, so that means I don’t have to take any responsibility for it!” Being socially acceptable doesn’t make it right or good to verbally hurt others.
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Date: 2009-08-26 10:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-26 11:07 pm (UTC)Just found it...interesting.
Humor is a big thing in my family, we 'jokingly' say a lot of true things we'd never discuss seriously or at length.
I didn't really think of it as pathological...I mean, hey, at least we're sharing our feelings directly to one another, somehow.
So, joking or teasing has always felt 'ok' to me.
"just sayin'" otoh smacks [to me] of passive agressive bullshit, someone who doesn't have the tits to say something directly to one's face...but really, it's no better or worse than joking/teasing.
*sigh*
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Date: 2009-08-27 03:27 pm (UTC)"just sayin'" seems like someone wanting to take a mean-spirited pot-shot without accepting the consequences of being a mean-spirited pot-shot-taker. And, gee, it works, because when someone is 'just sayin' and you take offense, it ends up making YOU look bad. neat.
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Date: 2009-08-27 05:22 pm (UTC)"Bless her heart, she can't balance a checkbook to save her life but she'd write a check for any charity that came knockin' at her door," Or "Bless her heart, she's always late, she'd be late to her own funeral"
I guess I don't read meanness into that, but I suppose it could be used that way.
It's always interesting to see what words or turns of phrase can go right past one person and hit another right in the heart. I guess it's partially what you grow up with, and also what turns of phrase you may associate with a certain person...you just tend to put that person's personality into their 'pet words' or 'catchprases' even if someone else is saying them.
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Date: 2009-08-28 03:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-28 03:35 pm (UTC)I try never ever to say or think 'I love you, but"
Thinking and words shape feelings and reality. I'm not going to take away from Love by adding a judgement at the end.
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Date: 2009-08-28 03:27 am (UTC)Sure beats the hell out of the "You shouldn't" that took one of those forums halfway to hell in a matter of hours....
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Date: 2009-08-28 03:32 pm (UTC)which I have tried hard to do. the word 'should' is ...very controlling, shaming and guilt inducing. You should do this, you should do that, you should know better, they should do such-and-such without having to be asked, bla bla. It's all very...judgemental and harmful.
I try to replace 'should' with 'would like'. Turning a sentence like "I should exercise tonight," into "I would like to exercise tonight," and that takes the judgment and guilt tripping OUT of it, and reinforces the idea that this is something I WANT to do, not something I am MAKING myself do from a sense of fear, obligation, guilt, or negative-self-judgement.
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Date: 2009-08-28 09:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-28 09:37 pm (UTC)