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[evile]

Dec. 10, 2004

 

 

evile: hey! TGIF!
SkyeDS: amen sister :)
evile: Sweetie didn't want to go to Marfa, so I'm going to use the
weekend to run errands, get winter cards done, etc.
SkyeDS: going to be gorgeous, whatever you do
evile: If the humidity stays down, I can make L's favorite cookies.
SkyeDS: they say the humidity here prevents the making of divinity
evile: You just have to do it on a cool or non-humid day. It can be
done.
evile: Hotmail worked,BTW. Thanks for sending that.
SkyeDS: oh good
SkyeDS: I unprivated it in my journal too
SkyeDS: and lj-cut it with a warning
evile: *nod*
evile: I saw your long post 12/9
evile: Nice comment from onyxlynxx. She is really a good person.
SkyeDS: nodnodnods
SkyeDS: I am not defining myself by what other people think, but I
still feel better when someone I respect pats me on the head.
evile: *nod* thats pretty much human nature. It's just harder
to 'consider the source' when nasty people say nasty things, for
whatever reasons.
SkyeDS: ya well.
SkyeDS: I'm just not going to give anyone reason to say anything
nasty. That way I can ignore it successfully if they do anyway.
SkyeDS: it's going to be hard, but I can do it.
evile: sounds like a plan :)
SkyeDS: what's funny is, if any of the people I was thinking about
when I posted yesterday reads it (unlikely), they'll all think it was
All About Just Them
SkyeDS: instead of a number of people and a number of situations
evile: *nod* of course
evile: Polydinner last night kinda sucked. Someone brought a kid,
which then screeched, cried, and ran around the whole evening.
evile: I think I set a personal record for shortest time ever spent
at polydinner.
SkyeDS: screeching kid was big interruption at the last shire meeting
SkyeDS: was important meeting too. we are absorbing another shire.
SkyeDS: some of them don't like it.
evile: that sucks.
evile: If it had been people at another table, I would have done
the "Death Glare" at the parents, and/or made comments intended for
them to overhear...but I had no idea how to deal with it at my own
table with friends sitting right next to me.
evile: And these people were doing my least-favorite parenting style:
speaking to the 2 year old as if it could a) understand and b) reason
logically
SkyeDS: nodnod. this child belonged to someone I'm friendly to.
evile: "Now, honey, we all appreciate your kindness, but mommy does
not want you stuffing a food-laden chopstick up her nose. Put the
chopstick down, sweetie, please."
SkyeDS: so I just closed my eyes and ignored as best could.
evile: *nod* It was excruciating. I just don't have the foggiest idea
how to suggest that the child be removed, spanked, whatever, without
causing a major offense
evile: And the *one* time a parent managed an effective discipline
(put it in a high chair and bucked the seatbelt to keep it there),
the other parent undermined the first parent about 2 minutes later by
saying "look how good he's being, can't we let him out, please,
daddy?"
evile: of course, we were just meeting socially, so I guess it would
have been out of line to suggest that the kid be taken away. But if
we were having a meeting with an agenda & whatnot, it might have been
easier to say "look, we need to discuss ABC, can you take the kid
out?"
evile: I guess it's just a matter of what you'd rather hear: kid
screeching, or adults getting pissy because you DARE to criticize
their darling little fuckfruit &/or their raising thereof.
evile: As I was getting ready to leave, teh mother invited me to a
potluck dinner at their house next Friday. I refrained from
saying "you must be fucking kidding me" and luckily I do have plans
for that day, already, so....oh, too bad.
SkyeDS: nods.
evile: I plan on discussing at the MGM, how to deal if this sort of
thing happens again at polydinner.
SkyeDS: maybe ask question on list, if could find nonaggravating way
to do so
SkyeDS: no point in calling it nonconfrontational, because the act of
asking any question at all strictly speaking is confrontational
SkyeDS: and people so abuse that word, when they really mean
combative, which isn't the same thing at all
SkyeDS: one is to your face and one is IN your face
evile: well, honestly, it doesn't happen often enough to really
create the kind of fuss it would likely kick up on the yahoo group.
(300+ people)
evile: There's a core of maybe 30 regular attendees at polydinner,
and maybe 5 of them have kids that they bring.
evile: This is the first time I can recall truly being appalled by a
poly child's behavior.
SkyeDS: I expected the pagan children to be badly behaved, but there
was only one badly behaved one, and that was Seneca/Lyn's (the
control freak, surprise surprise)
SkyeDS: who has the gall to tell me I need insurance when they don't
have insurance (event)
evile: pretty crazy.
SkyeDS: speaking of which remember the woman from the chamber who was
so pissy about the insurance
SkyeDS: I met the pony ride lady
SkyeDS: she has a policy
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: she has never shown it to the chamber
SkyeDS: she does not take out a rider for the chamber for its events
SkyeDS: so wtf
evile: huh. That's really odd.
SkyeDS: isn't it funny/ironic?
evile: I just gotta wonder what people are thinking?
SkyeDS: Ms Booker is up for election to the Board of Directors. I
don't know if she's already on it or not, I'd have to look.
SkyeDS: She's obviously a Pillar, so I already said what I had to
say, and I said it straightforwardly and truthfully, without ego
attached to it, without criticizing for the sake of criticizing
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and as long as it doesn't happen again all is well and
forgiven (I'm sorry, but my long memory does not allow forgetting)
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: and she's obviously Unhappy to be calling at 7 am and being
all kinds of nasty.
evile: probably stressed beyond belief, to be organizing such a thing
for the first time & worried that something bad would happen.
evile: but, yeah, why not find precedents or find rules that
apply,and apply them equally to all, rather than freak out and make
yourself look stupid?
SkyeDS: I didn't handle it well
SkyeDS: I haven't handled a lot of things well in the past
SkyeDS: I'm going to do differently and better.
SkyeDS: my reputation may never improve, but I can't help that.
evile: *nod* that's all anyone can ask or expect of you.
SkyeDS: Boss just invited me to the State Law Library
evile: oh, fun. That should be interesting.
SkyeDS: never been.
evile: are they having a holiday open house or party or something? Or
is it a work-thing?
SkyeDS: work I would presume
evile: Oh, well, not so fun then.
SkyeDS: HUGS bbl