Jun. 10th, 2005

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    evile: TGIF!
    evile: I'm *so* ready to get out of here!!!

    SkyeDS: yep
    SkyeDS: I meant to work 10 - 2 today but it turned into 12:30 -
    4:30... oh well
    evile: *shrug* these things happen. It doesn't seem boss man is too
    uptight about such things.
    SkyeDS: thankfully
    evile: I slept in a little too, working 8-4 (with phone duty)
    SkyeDS: wish I had gotten to sleep in, I was fussing with legal
    documents on the computer that I had to send to myself here
    evile: yuck.
    evile: It was nice to see Brandy and Steve out last night. He works
    insane hours a lot of the time, and she's super shy. It was nice of
    you to take such an interest in her.
    SkyeDS: brandy = kyahn? sat next to you?
    SkyeDS: that's right
    SkyeDS: because I had to make a note to myself not brandyeileen
    evile: *nod* You talked to her for over an hour, I think.
    SkyeDS: she was kind to take an interest in me for that long
    SkyeDS: she had/has a Catalina macaw, cross between a blue & gold and
    a scarlet
    evile: cool.
    SkyeDS: hybrid macaws are even flashier
    SkyeDS: and you can breed hybrids together to get even more flashier
    than t hat
    SkyeDS: and for some reason the birds are bigger than either of their
    parental species too
    SkyeDS: I thought last night rather pleasant.
    evile: me too. It was a good bunch.
    SkyeDS: it was also nice to meet Marcos, whose writing I enjoy when I
    have the chance
    evile: *nod* we are thinking of making him an Honorary Bitch :)
    SkyeDS: and the food was good as always, haven't had a bad experience
    there ever, used to live right next door
    evile: *nod*
    evile: When the group gets past a certain size, it becomes difficult
    for me to get in a good visit with everyone. It was good to see so
    many people, but I didn't really feel like I got any indepth
    conversation. Oh well.
    SkyeDS: nods. I was worried that sonar0m would be out of place and
    unhappy but he and sineater and oracle_tx seemed to do just fine
    evile: talked with Kirby for a minute on her way out about parking
    for Margaret cho, and with oracle_tx for a bit in the parking lot, but
    that's about it. Oracle_tx is a sweet guy.
    SkyeDS: if he had been unhappy or made people around him unhappy that
    would have felt like my fault.
    evile: *shrug* everyone is responsible for their own actions, we're
    all grownups.
    SkyeDS: we likes oracle_tx reminds me to friend him today.
    evile: If  sonar0m had been an ass, I wouldhave said "gee, sonar0m was
    acting like an ass" but I would not have held it against you or sineater
    for bringing him.
    SkyeDS: you will remember when kaleon first met you it wasn't pleasant
    for either of you.
    SkyeDS: and kaleon placed the blame squarely on me.
    evile: *shrug* that was pretty awkward. I didn'tknow a damn thing
    about poly and didn't have any idea what protocols were involved. I
    just followed your lead...oh well.
    SkyeDS: Kaleon was a big assed baby about it and I shouldn't have let
    him fob the blame off on me
    SkyeDS: but I don't have defenses for emotional blackmail.
    evile: Kaleon and I talked about it afterwards (years afterwards) and
    made our apologies. best to just let it go at this point.
    SkyeDS: just what he said about it being my place to make sure people
    that i am responsible for bringing together treat each other
    courteously kind of stuck, or some part of it did
    SkyeDS: anyway
    evile: oh well.
    evile: it's always nice to introduce the people who don't know one
    another to one another, but after that, it's up to them to relate or
    not, IMHO.
    SkyeDS: and I'm already aware I need a thicker skin in general and in
    many diverse particulars.
    evile: *nod* not taking things personally is always a good plan
    evile: I got a lot done last night; I am feeling much better about
    leaving home.
    SkyeDS: :)
    SkyeDS: for the record I hate converting documents from one format
    into two or three others, it's tedious and it sucks
    evile: *nod* I got tapped to do that when we were making this new
    system at work. It sucked and it was boring.
    evile: I really hope I don't have pertussis. OTOH, I could breathe on
    a bunch of obnoxious kids between here and Indiana.
    SkyeDS: hope that Kirby doesn't have it and if she does that I didn't
    catch it at dinner, but nothing to be done about it now in that case
    evile: yup
    evile: I started taking echinacea & goldenseal a few days ago. I'm
    doing some better, and the stuff I'm coughing up is clear again.
    (tmi, sorry)
    SkyeDS: that's good
    evile: yup.
    evile: I don't have time to see the ER before I leave Austin, let
    alone my real dr. (my annual was due this month, they never called or
    sent a reminder mail, I think it's definitely time for a new one.)
    SkyeDS: poke & pries = suck.
    evile: this year I get my first mammogram, too.
    SkyeDS: saw a new NP/PA this last time, she was very combative in
    trying to persuade me I need bariatric surgery
    evile: unfortunate that she was combative...
    SkyeDS: I don't think bariatric surgery is a first step, I think it's
    a final step. She just went completely past Go (diet, exercise)
    evile: *nod* that's the way it seems to be these days.
    SkyeDS: she had bariatric surgery ergo it is the first and only r
    ight answer for everyone else
    evile: *nod* of course.
    SkyeDS: not a convincing argument to my mind
    evile: nope.
    SkyeDS: I would not be surprised if after I have emailed half a dozen
    people half a dozen times and gotten little to no response, that we
    get turned away from the youth academy tomorrow because the terms
    under which we were there last year are not agreeable this year
    SkyeDS: not necessarily to the legal eagles but to Karen
    SkyeDS: which is ok because then we'll go to Lake Somerville :)
    evile: oh dear. Is it a long trip?
    SkyeDS: nah, half an hour
    evile: oh, if it's close to somerville, no biggie, then. It won't
    waste a day.
    SkyeDS: my thought exactly
    SkyeDS: and there would be more selfish pleasure in Somerville to me
    as opposed to riding kids around all day
    evile: there ya go.
    SkyeDS: the relationship with the Shire has changed anyway, since we
    don't see them every week anymore
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: Karen has been entourage to the Princess. If she remains
    entourage after Coronation when Princess becomes Queen then she'll be
    even more insufferable I suspect
    evile: that's too bad.
    SkyeDS: it may be in my favor though that the Princess and her bevy
    of little girls love Mirage
    SkyeDS: so whatever Karen has to say in effort to poison the waters
    isn't enough to keep them from spending time with the girls and being
    at least superficially polite to me
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: I can't control my reputation, just my character.
    evile: exactly
    SkyeDS: Bridget and I are always going to differ about riding and
    training styles, and if she's jealous of the structure of my marriage
    and the boys functioning as "horse slaves" (what apparently everyone
    else has been calling them)
    SkyeDS: I can't help that
    SkyeDS: but I think there would not have been as much bad feeling
    between us as there was, if it weren't for Karen
    SkyeDS: so I told Bridget that, and told her I for one was not going
    to let Karen spread poison any further, a nd offered an olive branch
    evile: good.
    SkyeDS: if things do go well at Y.A., I'm going to copy the Waiver w
    signatures and give a copy to Randy
    SkyeDS: as well as to a couple of other people in office
    SkyeDS: if it gets back to Sir Alexis, Golden Lancer, Father of
    Equestrian in Ansteorra and Randy's best bud, and Ansteorra's Lawyer,
    all the better
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: "like it? I wrote it." ie, I'm not as ignorant of the rules
    and the law as some people want to paint me out to be
    evile: cool. :)
    SkyeDS: paraphrase: just in case you didn't notice, horseback riding
    is dangerous
    SkyeDS: horses are bigger, more powerful/stronger, faster than you
    are. If you fall off from up there, it gonna hurt. bad.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: horses are big rabbits, they get scared, they act stupid.
    You should wear a helmet, it's your choice not to, I'm not giving you
    one.
    SkyeDS: oh and by the way, here's what de lawbook say:
    SkyeDS: now sign here
    SkyeDS: /end paraphrase
    evile: there ya go :)
    SkyeDS: takes two pages of legalese to express that
    evile: yeah, lots of CYA. sad but it's gotta be done.
    SkyeDS: if we have more than 44 kids wanting to ride, I don't have
    enough sig blocks
    SkyeDS: course, in a 12 hour day we have more than 44 kids, we've got
    other problems too
    evile: yup
    evile: whee! 1 more hour till vacation!!!!
    SkyeDS: :) hour and half here
    evile: cool :)
    evile: FWIW, Nikiyoy told me she'd thought about asking you to coffee to
    talk, but I think she's too intimidated now. :( Oh well. Everyone
    did fine at dinner, I thought, and if that's as far as everyone can
    compromise, I guess I'll have to make do.
    SkyeDS: I thought we all done good at dinner too
    SkyeDS: and I hope that if there aren't any more similar incidences
    everybody could like, put it out of mind and play nice in sandbox
    evile: hope so.
    SkyeDS: I have been able to talk sineater down a little
    evile: shes not a bad person.
    SkyeDS: he is still of the mindset that she's just regurgitating what
    she got from someone else, so I don't know that he thinks she is
    SkyeDS: and I don't really care.
    SkyeDS: which is why I never responded.
    SkyeDS: I don't see any point in pointing out that I have
    never "degraded him especially here in LJ" because my LJ speaks for
    itself
    evile: she was responding to your post, the words you wrote, right
    there....so I don't know where people are getting this 'informants'
    and bla bla from.
    SkyeDS: one post wherein I accurately recount facts is not degrading
    him
    SkyeDS: especially not against all the times I have praised him in
    the entire history of my L J
    evile: *shrug* I am not arguing with you, I am just saying that's how
    she read it and she responded before thinking it through.
    SkyeDS: and the whole post wasn't even "degrading" it was truthful
    about the both of us, and it ended in praise
    SkyeDS: not worthy of debate, I'm just telling you what he told me
    was in his head
    SkyeDS: he seldom does that
    evile: like I said, I'm not arguing with you.
    SkyeDS: tells me what goes on up there
    SkyeDS: and he thinks she got that idea/verbiage from elsewhere
    evile: that's his business, I guess.
    SkyeDS: he is still really hurt and really mad for the same reasons
    he usually is
    evile: that's also his business.
    SkyeDS: although I've soothed some of that over and continue to do so
    for his own happiness
    SkyeDS: being at war all the time is just bad for him a nd everyone
    around him
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: he is also of a very suspicious n ature, which I'm sure you
    knew long before I did
    SkyeDS: and he can't stand puzzles he can't unravel
    evile: anyway, Nikiyoy's not interested in being lynched, so I think
    she's closed the door on the possibility of talking things through or
    trying to be freinds. It's a loss for all concerned, IMHO.
    SkyeDS: such as how "they both did each other wrong in the past" gets
    translated into "Demon Skye does Saint sineater wrong every damn day" his
    words not mine
    evile: *shrug* he is entitled to his opinions. If he wants to puff up
    the words of one person to be some vast conspiracy and get all
    crazed, that's his business.
    SkyeDS: I'm telling you this because I know he won't. I know he
    won't because I told him you deserve to know.
    SkyeDS: I don't like playing [sineaterlastname]ball so I'm playing Skyeball from
    now on and that involves telling the truth
    evile: He and I have already talked, he says he doesn't think I'm in
    on the conspiracy (this time) so I'm cool. That's all I care about,
    really. Jump my shit for what I actually do and say, I'm cool with
    that, but don't make shit up to be mad at me about.
    SkyeDS: it isn't right to tell someone you aren't mad at them or
    suspicious of what they tell you and then go home and blow up because
    you damn well are too mad and suspicious and then refuse to tell them
    that or give them a chance to defend themselves or whatever.
    evile: I am just going to assume things are cool until he says
    otherwise. And if he lacks spine or testicles to speak directly to me
    and would rather go home and yell at the wall, that's fine. I didn't
    do anything wrong, so I'm just as glad not to be getting shit on as a
    result.
    SkyeDS: and for that matter, deciding at one point you aren't
    mad/suspicious and saying that, then rehashing "evidence" in your
    head and deciding later otherwise about the mad/suspicious thing, is
    wrong too, if you don't discuss it with the persons you know are
    interested in such
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: his sense of honor is different than mine, and he has to act
    on his, and I'm going to act on mine.
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: anyway, I had my reasons for not responding to Nikiyoy's posts
    SkyeDS: and if she's going to hold sineater and someone else's reaction
    against me personally, so be it.
    evile: I don't think so. I just think she sees you as being
    surrounded by irrational people who have threatened her, so doesn't
    see it as worth her while to fight her way through them to speak
    rationally to you
    SkyeDS: if he did yell at the wall btw I would leave him a lone to do
    so, but he doesn't yell at the wall, he yells not at me, but around
    me, so he puts me in a position of having to deal with it.
    evile: was speaking figuratively.
    evile: when he lived with us, he kicked walls.
    SkyeDS: in addition to eating dirt ;)
    evile: heh.
    evile: different stages in development.
    SkyeDS: having worked for lawyers for many moons now I know when I'm
    being yelled at and when I'm just present when someone's yelling
    evile: *nod* it's unpleasant, either way.
    SkyeDS: I didn't mean to give the impression he yells at me, he
    doesn't, I just happen to be the audience
    SkyeDS: along with Arthur, who really doesn't need to be, not good
    for him
    evile: *nods*
    SkyeDS: I told him there needed to be a sit down break bread and
    truth telling session, a nd he said no
    SkyeDS: so I decided I would have a general sit down and truth
    telling session in my journal, and I did, and so that chapter is
    finished until someone tells me otherwise far as I'm concerned
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I'm not the one Nikiyoy needs to reason with anyway
    evile: you're the person whose journal she posted in...so she sees it
    as more between you and her than anyone else.
    SkyeDS: and the reason I didn't answer it is also in my LJ - in my
    memories
    evile: *nod*
    SkyeDS: I don't answer negativity with more, it is a vicious cycle
    SkyeDS: I offered up a blessing for her and went on my merry way
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: which is what I told sineater and Jubi I was doing
    SkyeDS: and I told them, you do what you will, but that's what I'm
    doing and why
    SkyeDS: Jubi being very devoutly Xian t hought that Nikiyoy's post in my
    LJ served some purpose, and I said, well, everything that's happened
    to me lately seems to be to test my resolve not to take things
    personally and not be negative back
    SkyeDS: I am pleased with my response to those tests, it is improving
    slowly but surely
    evile: As I told nikiyoy...truth is a tricky tool (truth re: your
    feelings, not truth as in facts) ...you can use it as a can opener,
    to open the tin shell of those around you and get to the good stuff
    inside, or you can use it like a sledgehammer, which will destroy the
    other person's tin can and leave you with a mess. And then there are
    some cans you don't want to open, as all they contain is Whoop Ass.
    SkyeDS: I agree.
    SkyeDS: I'm trying to gently persuade sineater to give up the hammer.
    SkyeDS: I can't take it away forcibly.
    evile: I am sad to see nothing but crushed cans and mess around
    several people I care about...but they're all grownups and I can't
    tell other people what to do.
    SkyeDS: I am having a small amount of success in the gentle
    persuasion department too.
    evile: Well, Nikiyoy could have been a good friend for you. You could
    have been a good friend for her to know...and now that chance is
    gone. It's just very sad.
    SkyeDS: while I have a long memory I don't bear grudges
    SkyeDS: if she reaches that same place eventually the chance will
    arise again, if it's meant to
    evile: I think after the treatment by your protectors, Nikiyoy won't try
    again.
    evile: she's pretty cautious and guarded of her real self, even after
    knowing her as long as I have I've only scratched the surface. she
    takes a lot of things to heart, more than she appears to, and when
    she gets hurt, she just closes up
    SkyeDS: that's perfectly understandable
    SkyeDS: I think had the reverse happened, and I was perceived as
    attacking Nikiyoy, and her circle of friends closed around her and
    delivered the blistering response I would expect the SBC to deliver
    SkyeDS: I would never come out from cover again either
    evile: well, it's sad, and it's a loss to all concerned, and creates
    some awkwardness for those who know and like all concerned...but it
    seems to have been handled as adults.
    evile: so hopefully that will continue.
    SkyeDS: time fer u to go home btw
    evile: yup. I was just about to say.
    SkyeDS: *hugs* wind to your wings, have good journeys :)
    evile: thanks. Have a good weekend.

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