Jun. 2nd, 2005

3252dreams

Jun. 2nd, 2005 08:28 pm
evile: (clutter)
 

 

    Jun. 2, 2005

     

     

    Monday night:

    e and I went to a sunrise ceremony (solstice?) at some new age
    temple place. it was 1 room with wood floors and various altars and
    statues, but pretty minimal, not cluttered, and then a big backyard,
    and maybe some kind of well with a lid/bucket/pulley/weight system
    over it. These sort of unattractive lesbians kept walking up to me
    and greeting me like they knew me (or maybe hitting on me?) something
    about having some tuber type plants (palm tree and 2 others?) I
    wanted to plant and they got cooked so we were going to eat them.
    Then she and Andy were in a race in south america, and they were
    driving a VW bug, and it turned upside down, but they were inside
    buckled in and unhurt. Maybe laughing(?). Seemed like a good dream.

    Then last night:

    oracle_tx and I were going to get snow cones, we went to one
    place and I don't know why but then we went to Casey's on
    Airport/51st. He got a snowcone and paid for it. I didn't have my
    wallet and I'd been expecting him to pay for mine but since I wasn't
    sure he was paying or not, I didn't get anything. Jim Bacon was
    there, wearing some kind of pinstriped punk zoot suit, doing some
    kind of creepy Willy Wonka type thing, and then there was a boutique
    where some Natasha type lady was trying to get us to buy clothes that
    looked vintage and/or punk. Most of the stuff was overpriced. I think
    I put on some pants that I liked and they were $28.

evile: (clutter)

    Jun. 2, 2005

     

     

    This was sent to me and I thought of you! May your day be blessed
    today and always!
    Love
    D

    A young wife sat on a sofa on a hot humid day, drinking iced tea and
    visiting with her Mother. As they talked about life, about marriage,
    about the responsibilities of life and the obligations of adulthood,
    the mother clinked the ice cubes in her glass thoughtfully and
    turned a clear, sober glance upon her daughter. "Don't forget your
    Sisters," she advised, swirling the tea leaves to the bottom of her
    glass.

    " They'll be more important as you get older. No matter how much you
    love your husband, no matter how much you love the children you may
    have, you are still going to need Sisters. Remember to go places
    with them now and then; do things with them. And remember
    that "Sisters" also means your girlfriends, your daughters, and
    other women relatives too. You'll need other women. Women always do.

    " 'What a funny piece of advice!' the young woman thought. 'Haven't
    I just gotten married? Haven't I just joined the couple-world? I'm
    now a married woman, for goodness sake! A grownup. Surely my husband
    and the family we may start will be all I need to make my life
    worthwhile! But she listened to her Mother.

    She kept in contact with her Sisters and made more women friends
    each year. As the years tumbled by, one after another, she gradually
    came to understand that her Mom really knew what she was talking
    about. As time and nature work their changes and their mysteries
    upon a woman, Sisters are the mainstays of her life.

    Here is what I've learned:

    Times passes.
    Life happens.
    Distance separates.
    Children grow up.
    Love waxes and wanes.
    Hearts break.
    Careers end.
    Jobs come and go.
    Parents die.
    Colleagues forget favors.
    Men don't call when they say they will.

    BUT Sisters are there, no matter how much time and how many miles
    are between you. A Sister is never farther away than needing her can
    reach.

    When you have to walk that lonesome valley, and you have to walk it
    for yourself, your Sisters will be on the valley's rim, cheering you
    on, praying for you, pulling for you, intervening on your behalf,
    and waiting with open arms at the valley's end. Sometimes, they will
    even break the rules and walk beside you. Or come in and carry you
    out.

    My mother, sister, sister-in-laws, and "girlfriends", have blessed
    my life! The world wouldn't be the same without them, and neither
    would I. When we began this adventure called womanhood, we had no
    idea of the incredible joys or sorrows that lay ahead. Nor did we
    know how much we would need each other. Every day, we need each
    other still.

evile: (slap)

    Jun. 2, 2005

     

     

    This is boilerplate. Creepy icky scary boilerplate. I've seen her
    post this all before, verbatim. WTF man.

    skye_ds (skye_ds) wrote,
    @ 2005-06-02 12:35:00





    Current mood: content
    Current music: You're Still the One / Getting Better All the Time

    Response to Oracle_Tx Question
    This was too long to post in comments, so I'm posting it here and
    linking it there.


    My Essay on Why I am and How I Came to Be Polyamorous:

    Born and bred in Texas, I was raised in the old fashioned Southern
    Baptist/Southern Methodist tradition. I was a truly devout Christian,
    as opposed to the vast majority who are hypocritical wannabes in my
    opinion, for the first 20 years of my life. From the tender age of 8,
    I had studied world mythologies, and at University, out of curiosity,
    I visited the Pagan Students Association. After close examination and
    scrutiny of my beliefs, I realized that Christianity was not my path,
    and I became an eclectic solitary pagan. Here I met and eventually
    married another pagan.

    Now, something that is quite commonly said, among many Wiccans and
    other neopagans, is "all acts of love and pleasure are sacred...".
    But Judaism Christianity and Islam haven't got the market cornered on
    hypocrisy - for you see, many pagans talk that talk, but cannot walk
    that walk when the shoe is on the other foot.

    Both myself and my husband, who came to paganism as a recovering
    Catholic, were brought up with the traditional views of monogamy and
    cheating. And of course, cheating is a term subject to a plethora of
    varied definitions. In the year before we were married, he cheated on
    me several times. No, he never consummated the act, never "went all
    the way," but he went right up to the edge of that cliff and danced
    all over it, from kissing through petting all the way up to just, and
    I mean just, short of penetration. (How's that for convoluted :P). He
    is a very secretive person, and at this time he was not a truthful
    person, so he went out of his way to hide these incidents from me and
    to lie his derriere out of the sling when I discovered them (yes -
    lies will always be discovered, it is just a matter of
    time...discovery of lies is *when* not *if*).

    Not one month before the day of our wedding, I caught him in
    flagrante delicto, and he would not admit to the truth to which I had
    been an eye witness until I had chased him around with my spirit
    blade (sacred dagger) for several hours like a crazed, insane shrew.

    Getting the truth from him about anything, not just his sexual
    indiscretions, is like pulling a freight train with my pinky finger,
    or pulling teeth with pliars and no novocaine. Dishonesty, in all
    forms, be it commission, omission or hypocrisy, is one of my biggest
    pet peeves, and so his coverups and lies just made things much, much
    worse. The first few years of our marriage, his lies and infidelities
    were among my favorite weapons to hurl at him during the many pitched
    battles.

    Then I went through a spiritual rebirth (a long story in and of
    itself that I won't bore anyone with). The hereditary path that
    called me (Stregheria) has an entirely different paradigm concerning
    love, sex and marriage, which follows:

    "Concerning Love

    Love is the gift of the Spirit's blessings. It is the emanation of
    Spirit within. Love is the Great Attainment. Receive love when it is
    offered, and offer love regardless. Yet do not allow the duality of
    love to cause you despair. For love can lift up your heart and it can
    likewise drag it down. Accept love in the manner in which it comes to
    you. Do not possess it, or attempt to control it or shape it. For
    love is free, and shall come or go in its manner.

    Concerning Sexuality

    The sexual power of a man or woman is the strongest power that may be
    raised from the body. The Christians teach that sexuality must be
    repressed, and thereby rob the people of their personal power. Do not
    be confused by the duality of sex, for it can be physical alone or it
    can be spiritual alone. It can also be both together. Share your
    sexuality with whomever you may, in whatever manner you may. For all
    acts of love and pleasure are rituals to the Goddess and to the God.
    It has been written that you shall be free, and so shall you be free
    in body, mind, and spirit. Be not like the Christians who teach shame
    and modesty, and false morality. Blessed are the free. You have heard
    it said that homosexuality is unnatural, yet I say to you that
    heterosexuality is likewise unbalanced. Everything is masculine and
    feminine in essence, and all bear the divine spark of the God and
    Goddess within them. Realize this, and do not exalt the one above the
    other. A Strega must live with inner and outer harmony. You have
    heard the Christians condemn adultery, and say that the spouse is the
    property of the other. Yet no one may rightly dictate the will of
    another. Do not confuse love with sex nor sex with love. Remember
    that pleasure belongs to everyone, and rightly so. Therefore harm no
    one through your own will, nor place your will above another's.

    Concerning Marriage

    When a man and a woman join their lives together through ritual, and
    the love which they share, then are they linked to each other in
    another life to come. Yet being together, know that each of you must
    be alone. Understand that even though you are bound together, let
    this not be as captives. There shall always be others with who each
    of you may desire to share a closeness, either physical or spiritual.
    This is as it should be. Let your love desire fullness of life for
    each other and also pleasure for each other. Honor each other with
    openness and honesty. Because you have joined your lives together,
    you are sanctuary and comfort for each other. Together shall you
    stand in all things, for you are true friends. You are together
    because of your love, and you remain for this reason. Yet if this
    reason for coming together is forgotten, or fades, then it is well to
    part if needs be such. You do not honor the joining by remaining
    without love. Neither do you honor each other."

    Ok, so ...that was hard...VERY hard. I have to believe what??!!! Let
    him do what???!! I agonized painfully for a long time, and then the
    Epiphany: two words screamed out for my attention. OPEN and HONEST.
    When I examined my feelings over his past betrayals painstakingly
    with a finetoothed comb, I realized, the sexual acts themselves
    aren't what hurt me, what hurt was that I was lied to about them.
    Everything became very clear suddenly, like stormladen clouds lifting
    away from me.

    Do I really care, does it really hurt, that he might want to have sex
    with someone else? No. Not as long as he's OPEN and HONEST about it.
    I have always known that sex and love are not necessarily or even
    always desirably synonymous. So I made the following pact with him:

    You may sleep with anyone you want under the following three
    conditions:

    1) You OPENLY and HONESTLY tell me BEFORE it happens. Do not make me
    chase you with a dagger to get the truth about it after the fact.

    2) Protect against BOTH disease and unwanted pregnancies. Don't come
    home with a child or something that will make me sick or kill me. I
    want to see evidence of a negative STD test from your intended
    partner, and want you to use whatever precautions necessary to
    protect against STDS and pregnancy.

    3) Do not bring another partner into our marital bed nor into our
    marital home without my prior consent.

    He agreed with alacrity, undoubtedly because he saw it as inuring to
    his own benefit. After all, he was the one with the history of
    demonstrated proclivity for sexual activity outside of our
    relationship. Imagine his surprise (and my own), when his short fat
    ugly dumpy little wife (me) was the first one to acquire an Other
    Significant Other years later. I have now been married to my husband
    for 13 years, and my various Significant Others have also been part
    of Our Family for over 8 years. With the two horses and the macaw, we
    live together as a Family.

    Despite the long hours of negotiation, despite the agreement, despite
    my open, honest honoring of that agreement both in spirit and letter,
    my insanely possessive, jealous, unfaithful and secretive husband did
    not react well for the first two years of my first new relationship,
    going so far one night as to put his hands around my throat. We
    braved many years of fiery storm to get to the state of grace, the
    calm and peaceful shore where we exist now as a Family - me, two
    horses, one macaw, and two adult male children *very big grin*.

    In the Great Bard's Hamlet, Polonius the fool tells his son, "To
    thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day,
    Thou can not then be false to any man." Only a madman or a fool
    tells the bald truth.

    P.S. Our Family's "Compleat Rules of Engagement" may be found here:
    http://www.livejournal.com/users/skye_ds/9488.html



    ~Namaste, Benedizione~

    P.S. My Dear Husband and I have both matured and grown in lo these
    many moons together, and we are both new and improved, and getting
    better all the time!

evile: (clutter)

    Jun. 2, 2005

     

     

    She was distant and bizarre last night, I didn't know what was up and
    I really had better things to do than fuss with her. Lots of people
    to visit, lots of hugs to give/get. (Polydinner is like TinyTIM but
    in RL, I realized/discovered to my happiness and delight this
    afternoon)

    Anyway, here's the latest hoo ha in her LJ. A while back she was
    whining and fussing because nobody responded to her posts. Now she's
    whining and fussing because people aren't saying what she wants them
    to say. I'm done replying for a while, I think.
    =====================================================

    Onyxlynxx (onyxlynxx) wrote,
    @ 2005-06-02 11:09:00





    Current mood: okay
    Current music: Learning to Fly by Pink Floyd

    Asking for what you want....
    Okay. I have a friend who feels that I do not do a good job of asking
    for what I want. That is just another one of the many things that I
    am working on.

    For the record, my LJ is like a diary. That means that sometimes I
    use it to vent. Writing about how I feel is a way that I process my
    negative emotions and let them go.

    I really do appreciate all the sage advice but I know that everything
    changes, that I will be "alright" and that some things only happen
    when they are meant to and wishing it different does not make it so.

    If you want to be helpful, tell me how wonderful I am* or something
    not how I need to learn to be patient and let things flow. I am
    already working on that and telling a frustrated control freak to
    relax is likely to get you snapped at.

    *Thanks loverdenye. Did you leave a cd in my desk? That was a nice
    surprise.



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    terriblelynne
    2005-06-02 16:24 (link)
    *hug*
    People do need to remember that your LJ can be a very skewed view of
    who you are and what you express, depending on what it is you most
    use your LJ for.
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    thewordnerd
    2005-06-02 16:25 (link)
    Here here! This is something to which I can most definitely relate. I
    write things because I'm emotional about them, or need to vent, or
    something . . . but there are two important aspects of that. 1) There
    is a need, and somehow I have to vent. 2) Venting is scary, and
    when people criticize my actions, put words in my mouth or otherwise
    attack me then it compromises the process. Yet, whatever was done has
    already been done, so it does no one any good to tell me how I should
    have done it better when I'm just trying to get past the emotions.

    Anyway, sorry, didn't mean to start ranting, but this post really
    resonated with how I feel, so I thought I'd let you know that you
    aren't alone in that.

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    skye_ds
    2005-06-02 16:42 (link)
    *hugs*

    I was wondering if I was the only person out here who only gets all
    the more frustrated when someone tells me "be patient" (or any other
    similar similitude such as "calm down," "chill out," etc). I feel
    better now, thank you :)

    Namaste, Benedizione ~

    P.S. You're wonderful :P
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    roninjedi
    2005-06-02 16:51 (link)
    Well, I've been telling you you're wonderful for quite some time now.
    You've gotten, if anything, better and more impressive the longer
    I've known you.

    So there! ;)
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    *shrug*
    bramblekite
    2005-06-02 17:11 (link)
    You can always turn off comments or make things 'private' if you'd
    rather not deal with people saying inappropriate/annoying things.

    I think you do a pretty good job of identifying your wants and needs.
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    Re: *shrug*
    onyxlynxx
    2005-06-02 17:22 (link)
    I don't know. I guess I am being perverse.

    I want people to be able to say things...but only things I like.

    It is like when I used to complain about being fat. I didn't want
    someone to tell me that I just needed to take in less calories than I
    burned. I knew that anyway but nothing is ever that simple. I wanted
    to hear that people understood what I was feeling or simply that they
    recognized my struggle or something.
    (Reply to this)(Parent) (Thread)

    Re: *shrug*
    bramblekite
    2005-06-02 18:23 (link)
    Ok. When you do entries like that, just type "NOD AND SMILE
    SLAVES!!!!" at the top and we will all do so with alacrity :P
    (Reply to this)(Parent) (Thread)

    Re: *shrug*
    onyxlynxx
    2005-06-02 18:29 (link)
    I don't want to have to tell you to nod and smile. I want you to
    agree with me and decided to do it yourselves.

    It is like when you complain that your significant other doesn't ever
    say anything flattering. You don't want him to tell you that you are
    beautiful then. You want him to remember to do it later and you want
    him to MEAN it.
    (Reply to this)(Parent)

    Re: *shrug*
    sineater
    2005-06-02 18:59 (link)
    *blink* How are you fat???
    (Reply to this)(Parent) (Thread)

    Re: *shrug*
    bramblekite
    2005-06-02 19:13 (link)
    bro, I love you so much it hurts...but I gotta tell ya: when you find
    yourself in a hole, first thing to do is STOP DIGGING.
    (Reply to this)(Parent)


    loverdenye
    2005-06-02 17:53 (link)
    Yes. I left you one of the CDs you asked about a long while ago. If
    you like it, I can burn it for you laters. But keep it for a while to
    decide. And yes, I will continue work on that mix CD I promise about
    two years ago.

    *Hugs*
    (Reply to this)(Thread)


    onyxlynxx
    2005-06-02 17:59 (link)
    Cool. I am really looking forward to that mix but I didn't want to
    bug you about it.
    (Reply to this)(Parent) (Thread)


    loverdenye
    2005-06-02 18:10 (link)
    No bug. My bad. I will work on finishing it up today- if I can get a
    few minutes of Nate's time.

    *Hugs*

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