evile: howdy :)
SkyeDS: how do :)
evile: I was going to try 	& get to PNO tonight, but looks like 
there's a vigil at the 	Capitol that is more important. *sigh* stupid 
republicrats.
SkyeDS: 	vigil for what?
evile: against the marriage amendment.
evile: 	http://lgrl.sitestreet.com/calendar/event.asp?eventID=244
evile: 	vigil. wrong word. demonstration. sorry.
SkyeDS: Clinton signed 	Bill Barr's POS DOMA
SkyeDS: so I don't understand why there's 	the need for more 
legislation
evile: *nods*
evile: 	expecially not an amendment to the fucking constitution.
evile: 	I'm sorry, I am not conventionally religious, but I still feel 
like 	the constitution is a sacred text..you don't just go sticking 
shit 	to it.
SkyeDS: thank you.
evile: Personally I feel that 	marriage is a misogynistic trap...but I 
would never presume to 	tell other people how to live their lives.
SkyeDS: the horse-assy 	marshal of bryn gwlad tried to take my student 
away from me, I 	found out last night
evile: interesting.
SkyeDS: and someone 	else, whose name I don't know yet, told her 
parents that the 	helmet I had her wearing is an antique and is not 
Approved
evile: 	??wtf??
SkyeDS: the mistake these two made, is that they said 	this to the 
wife of the Earl Marshal
SkyeDS: who immediately 	told me
evile: One would wish that a parent with safety concerns 	would 
actually bring them to the instructor rather than all this 	roundabout 
nonsense...
SkyeDS: it wasn't a parent
SkyeDS: 	it was another equestrian
SkyeDS: just trying to make 	trouble
SkyeDS: for me
evile: Well, if they're telling the 	student's parent that you're 
using unsafe equipment, I wish the 	parent would come to you instead 
of you having to hear about it 	like this.
SkyeDS: she did
SkyeDS: the parent happened to be 	the wife of the earl marshal
evile: oh, ok.
evile: it's all 	clear as mud now :P
SkyeDS: lol ok
SkyeDS: randy and karen 	have a daughter who takes lessons from me
SkyeDS: I had 	permission to give lessons at an event
SkyeDS: the b.g. marshal 	who is so snooty tried to convince Karen 
that her daughter 	should take lessons from "professionals" (ie. 	her).
SkyeDS: someone entirely different, I don't know who but I 	will damn 
well find out
evile: aha. OK.
SkyeDS: said the 	helmet I use is an antique.
evile: wtf.
SkyeDS: this all 	happened before two of my advanced students (E & M) 
both 	took firsts at their very first competition
SkyeDS: so my 	reputation as a teacher now is somewhat more vindicated
evile: 	heh.
SkyeDS: and there's nothing against the Rules about sniping 	students
SkyeDS: but I'm still going to tell Lorraine and 	Linda
SkyeDS: NOT as the head marshal but as my friend
evile: 	that seems like a pretty rude thing to do...
SkyeDS: because that 	is rude and it sucks
evile: Me, I feel like people are entitled 	to their opinions-if they 
think I'm stupid, ugly, whatever, 	that's their business. But don't 
fuck with my livelihood.
evile: 	it's fine if *you* think I'm a lazy slacker, but don't go 
telling 	my bosses that and trying to get me fired, ya know?
evile: and if 	the person really had a safety concern about the 
helmet, why not 	bring it to you at the time the child was 'in 
danger'???
SkyeDS: 	zactly
evile: such stirring really just reflects badly on the 	stirrer.
SkyeDS: which is why although no rules were violated, 	I'm still 
telling Laura & Linda.
evile: 	good.
SkyeDS: clique shit can go too far
evile: yup.
evile: 	Poly Dinner on Thurs is Chuy's--the one closest to my house! 	
Yay!
SkyeDS: :)
evile: Hopefully it will be one where nice 	people I like show up.
evile: Got an email from Stepdad. Mom wants 	to know what I thought of 
the new King Arthur movie. I haven't 	seen it yet, but I suppose I 
should.
SkyeDS: it is on my 	list
evile: One of the kids at Sharjinka's bday said he liked it 	for the 
action scenes. I'm sure that's probably about as good as 	it's gonna 
get, review-wise.
SkyeDS: garb and probably 	horses, makes me moderately happy
evile: Need to work on 	finding/focusing more on happy stuff.
SkyeDS: Karen told me 	something last night that wasn't happy making
evile: no?
SkyeDS: 	I was afraid it might be the case, but now that fear is 	
verified
evile: ugh.
SkyeDS: Bridget, the troublemaker, is 	slated to be the next KEO.
SkyeDS: that's a year and a half from 	now
evile: yuck.
SkyeDS: but she will be there for the 	customary two years
SkyeDS: which means my life will be hell for 	two years
SkyeDS: every time she starts shit with me, my only 	recourse will be 
to report her to the new Earl Marshal.
evile: 	*nods* Or you could j ust find another group to hang with 
during 	that time, maybe?
evile: (I don't know what KEO means)
SkyeDS: 	the only defense I have will be that my friend Randy is a 
knight, 	and the old Earl Marshal
SkyeDS: and the new Earl Marshal is his 	mentor knight and dear friend
SkyeDS: KEO = Kingdom Equestrian 	Officer (head horse honcho)
evile: *nods* seems like SCA is big 	enough group that you can go to 
stuff and really easily avoid 	those persons who need to be 
avoided...still find plenty of 	folks to hang out with.
SkyeDS: well, if you're an equestrian you 	can't avoid the KEO
SkyeDS: or any other marshal for that 	matter
evile: ick.
SkyeDS: but she doesn't get to make up her 	own rules, not even as KEO
evile: right.
SkyeDS: and Randy 	said that as long as I was saintly and rose scented 
and gave her 	no ammo, he would intercede with Pat (the new Earl 
Marshal, who 	is over the KEO) on my behalf.
SkyeDS: but it doesn't bode 	well.
evile: sounds ick.
SkyeDS: and I don't care on my own 	behalf.
SkyeDS: but it will hamper the boys doing something they 	like to do 
and are good at.
evile: that would suck.
SkyeDS: 	it's a year and a half down the road I know
SkyeDS: but still a 	bridge I know will have to be crossed, so I need 
to at least 	keep it in mind now
SkyeDS: try to stay out of her path as much 	as possible in the 
meanwhile
evile: Well, hopefully you'll 	have a chance to really settle in to 
the horse bunch between now 	and then, have a lot of allies for the 
trials to come.
SkyeDS: 	I've already got the only ally that will be of any help when 
the 	time comes. But for some reason I'm still dreading. I hate 	
unpleasantness :(
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: and Randy gave me 	advice for dealing with her over the next 
year and a half that 	will be absolute torture.
evile: *nods*
SkyeDS: every time 	Bridget takes a shot at me, I am supposed to take 
her to 	Lorraine and say, ok, let's have this judged now.
evile: but he's 	hte politician, so he knows how to handle 
people..following his 	advice, however distasteful, will probably be 
the best 
SkyeDS: 	I know
SkyeDS: but it's going to be very painful
SkyeDS: 	because to me, that reeks of tattle telling
SkyeDS: and I don't 	want anyone to have the impression that I'm 
friends with 	Lorraine because she's KEO
SkyeDS: or that I'm using my friend's 	status.
evile: *nods* But perhaps a growth experience for all 	concerned. As 
the bumper sticker says: "not another fucking 	learning experience"
SkyeDS: because just like I didn't know 	Randy was Earl Marshal (or 
even wtf Earl Marshal was) when we 	became friends
SkyeDS: I didn't know Laura was KEO or 	what that meant when we became 
friends
evile: Hopefully, if 	done consistently and without any tantrum-ish 
behavior on your 	part, but only cold rationality, it will not have to 
happen more 	than a few times before she gets the point.
SkyeDS: I hope 	so.
SkyeDS: but, I wonder
SkyeDS: if over the next year and a 	half, I officially report her 
every time she snipes at me, what 	retribution will she exact when 
she's KEO
evile: *shrug* 	Hopefully she'll learn that you're not a person to be 
fucked 	with before it reaches that point in time.
SkyeDS: I am an 	immediate person
SkyeDS: I'm not inclined to worry about 2 years 	down the road.
evile: *nods* But political solutions are often 	longterm.
SkyeDS: but the point has been made to me that I might 	need to worry 
about this
evile: Yup.
SkyeDS: and with due 	consideration, that's true
evile: lay your groundwork, get in 	your bluff/licks before she's in a 
position to hurt you, and I'm 	sure things will go much easier when/if 
she finally gets 	KEO
SkyeDS: nods
SkyeDS: I think no matter what I do, whether 	I drag her before 
Lorraine or not, she's going to be gunning for 	me
SkyeDS: so I'm not going to save myself any pain if I 	don't.
evile: If she gets in a habit of pushing you around and 	you let 
her...it won't get any better once she has some actual 	authority
SkyeDS: you're absolutely right.
evile: does she 	give sineater and sonar0m grief, or just you?
SkyeDS: just 	me.
SkyeDS: she tries to give them grief, and they channel her in 	my 
direction
evile: wierd. 
SkyeDS: they have been told, 	in general, if anyone complains about 
the horses, to bring it to 	me
evile: *nods*
SkyeDS: I bear that burden by myself (for a 	reason)
evile: I would say it would depend on the nature of the 	complaint. If 
sonar0m were riding his horse into people's tents, 	that would be his 
lapse in judgement that needed correcting not 	an actual problem with 
the animal.
SkyeDS: right
SkyeDS: 	and he knows better
evile: I would hope so.
evile: so that vs, 	say, one of the horses' tendiences to kick horses 
that get too 	close to their butt. One issue is rider stupidity, the 
other is 	a horse behavior issue, that would rightly need to come to 
you 	as their owner & primary trainer.
SkyeDS: exactly 
evile: 	Well, I definitely second Randy's suggestion.
SkyeDS: I 	know
SkyeDS: I know in my head
SkyeDS: and I'm not usually 	irrational or emotional
SkyeDS: but it is torture to me, it's 	completely against my nature
evile: Time to learn a new behavior 	pattern that will be more 
advantageous in the long run....it's 	uncomfortable, but eventually it 
will be more natural to do 	things that way.
SkyeDS: I'm never going to like it. I don't have 	to, and I'm going 
to do it, but I'm never going to like 	it.
SkyeDS: and I'm going to end up passionately hating that 	woman for 
putting me in this position
evile: No group is 	perfect. There are going tobe people you dont like 
and have to 	deal with anyway.
evile: Doesn't seem like you like her much now, 	or care much for 
making her happy, so what are you losing by 	showing her that you are 
not an easy victim?
SkyeDS: well, 	first she picked on my boys and wanted to throw them 
out of a 	practice
SkyeDS: and then she was rude to you
evile: ?
SkyeDS: 	and then she tried to poach my student
evile: I don't even 	remember her, so might as well not hold that one 
against 	her.
SkyeDS: by default I want people to be happy
SkyeDS: 	until they give me reason not to care
SkyeDS: which she's done, 	many times over
SkyeDS: now I just want her to go away
SkyeDS: 	not to go away mad, just go away
evile: And how likely is that to 	happen, really?
SkyeDS: lol it isn't
evile: Not very. So suck 	it up and do what has to be done to protect 
yourself and your 	loved ones in order to remain in the group and in 
the 	game.
SkyeDS: but you're right, I don't care about whether she's 	happy 
anymore or not, because the way she behaves
SkyeDS: the 	proof, as always will be in the pudding.
SkyeDS: Under Lorraine 	as KEO, the group is bigger than ever before 
and still 	growing
evile: And you should _never_ ever ever ever put someone 	else's 
happiness so high above your own that you are making 	yourself 
miserable so theyll be happy.
SkyeDS: I think we'll 	see a lot of people leave or stop participating 
if Bridget is 	KEO and continues to be herself
evile: probably.
SkyeDS: the 	devil on one shoulder says it can't wait till Megan 
starts 	competing
SkyeDS: she could easily compete with the advanced 	adults, but all 
minors are lumped in together
evile: 	*nods*
SkyeDS: and she's going to outcompete them with one hand 	tied behind 
her back
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: and I have to 	admit, when that happens, I'm not going to just 
be happy for 	Meghan, which is right
SkyeDS: I'm going to be maliciously 	satisfied at my own vendication 
(which is bad)
evile: heh. as 	long as your'e graceful about it.
evile: You have every right to 	be proud of a good student & the 
results of your good 	teaching....imho.
SkyeDS: my way of being graceful is to just not 	say anything (except 
to friends & family in privacy)
SkyeDS: 	I did comment to everyone at fighter practice who would 
listen 	last night that I was proud of my boys
SkyeDS: and they all said, 	as you should be
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: I keep pointing out to 	the boys that I am only responsible 
for one third, maybe two 	thirds of the teaching
SkyeDS: I did train the horses
SkyeDS: 	and I did teach them to ride
SkyeDS: but I didn't teach them how 	to handle the weapons while riding
evile: *nods*
evile: but 	without a firm foundation, they would not have gotten to 
where 	they are.
evile: which is what you gave them, in having 	well-trained animals 
and giving them your knowledge of 	riding.
SkyeDS: they do have something of an advantage, in their 	relationship 
with Jesse
evile: *nods* 
SkyeDS: not all 	horses have the fierce competitive spirit, the lack 
of fear, or 	the heart for her riders, that Jesse has
SkyeDS: and that bond 	between horse and rider is always an advantage
evile: *nods* and 	thats just one of those 'chemistry' things that 
nobody can force 	or predict.
evile: Sort of like how Spaz is 'my' cat and Eris is 	Sweetie's baby.
SkyeDS: Tracie is USET dressage
evile: that is 	your mentor, yes?
SkyeDS: and she pointed out that I could lease 	Mirage to a 
professional and she could go further in the 	dressage world than if I 
ride her
SkyeDS: one of many 	yes
SkyeDS: but she also pointed out that Mirage will never 	perform for 
anyone else like she will for me out of love 	bond
SkyeDS: so at least one dressage professional recognizes 	that
SkyeDS: I don't know why the "dressage crowd" in 	the SCA doesn't seem 
to get that
evile: *nods*
SkyeDS: I 	mean, one of them beats her stallion between the legs with 
a 	sword
SkyeDS: how good for their bond can that be?
evile: 	Well...you've been very hot on the issue of nobody questioning 
your 	methods with your animals...so I would say extend the courtesy 	
unless you see damage or abuse and then report it to the proper 	
authorities....
evile: maybe it's a bad analogy, but I don't 	like choke collars on 
dogs, but I would never presume to tell 	another person not to use one 
on their own animal.
evile: 	Unless I saw the collar drawing blood or the animal vomiting 	
because it had been choked too much, then I'd call the 	authorities.
SkyeDS: that's another thing that happened this 	weekend
SkyeDS: Diane, of the dressage crowd, has this 	Rottweiler
SkyeDS: and he runs around on a choke collar and 	leash
SkyeDS: but nobody holds the leash
SkyeDS: which renders 	it a little pointless imho
evile: yup
SkyeDS: so he comes 	bounding over at breakfast time to our pavilion 
where Linda's 13 	yo daughter is eating bacon & eggs
SkyeDS: knocks her to the 	ground and takes her food
SkyeDS: she isn't hurt
SkyeDS: but 	still unacceptable
SkyeDS: AND little Addy, Lorraine's grandson, 	who is not yet 2 years 
old, in diapers still but walking, tends 	to run around camp
SkyeDS: we had to keep an eye on him because 	he would walk unescorted 
right into the girls' pen.
SkyeDS: 	and truthfully he's safer walking into the pen with the girls 
than 	with a dog that would tackle him
evile: poor parenting . 	sad.
SkyeDS: so, I grabbed the leash and told him to sit and to 	stay, but 
after a while, nobody came to get him
SkyeDS: and I 	got tired of babysitting the dog
evile: by law, though, the 	animal owner is liable if the stupid 
little shit gets hurt, 	though.
SkyeDS: so I tied him to the only sure structure there, a 	horse 
trailer
SkyeDS: and half an hour later, they come to 	get him, glaring at me.
evile: stupd.
SkyeDS: regarding little 	Addy, everyone kept their eyes on him 
constantly
SkyeDS: but 	it doesn't take but a split second for those little speed 
demons 	to head for potential trouble.
evile: Personally,I feel that if 	you crapped it out, it's your 
problem.
evile: If some little 	shit kid ran into my property I would ignore it.
SkyeDS: I still 	don't think the potential for problem was Addy as 
much as it is 	a pit running around with no one holding his leash.
evile: Or 	maybe make a loud remark about free range sprogs being 
tastiest 	on the BBQ pit...
SkyeDS: err Rott, sorry
evile: I feel sorry 	for any innocent creature whose handlers can't be 
bothered to 	watch them..
SkyeDS: I'm not mad at Blake. I'm mad at 	Diane.
SkyeDS: Diane comes cruising in with her full ton dually 	and 8 horse 
trailer late at night
SkyeDS: drops it off, 	horses still in it
SkyeDS: and goes off to a hotel
evile: 	nice.
SkyeDS: leaving the rest of us to listen to the horses 	kicking all 
night long
evile: ugh.
SkyeDS: then the next 	day she goes wandering away, leaving Ashia the 
stallion beater 	to watch them
SkyeDS: Ashia decides to go somewhere else and 	leaves watching them 
to me.
SkyeDS: the prize horse is on the 	sun side and away from his peers in 
the shade, so he immediately 	tries to hogtie himself
SkyeDS: and I realize, you know what, 	that horse needs to be in the 
shade with his buddies
SkyeDS: 	and if I so much as untie him and move him, they're going to 
be 	pissed
SkyeDS: and of course if he puts himself on teh ground, 	they will 
also be pissed
evile: ugh.
SkyeDS: so I located 	someone I know I've seen riding Diane's horses 
before and said, 	would you please retie him on the other side of the 
trailer and 	keep an eye on her horses because I've got to take care 
of my 	own
SkyeDS: you see, if I had a death wish, I'd just shoot myself 	in the 
head
SkyeDS: easier than having Diane rip it off my 	shoulders and spit 
down my throat
evile: true.
SkyeDS: and 	no, I'm not going to say a word to any of them about what 
they 	do
SkyeDS: until I see Ashia put someone in danger again (she's 	done it 
several times before)
SkyeDS: but I don't know how 	many times I'm going to be able not to 
say anything about the 	genital beating before I haul off and do 
something
evile: 	*shrug* 
evile: I am not an expert, I don't pretend to be. To me 	any kind of 
animal beating looks cruel, but there are people I 	know and trust to 
be humane and wise who beat livestock.
SkyeDS: 	the genital beating is not as much of an immediate danger as 	
running over pedestrians
evile: *nods* that ought to be 	adresed by the authorities at the 
event, I would think..
SkyeDS: 	which is why I don't say anything about it, hard as it is, 
but 	I'll be damned if she runs over people on the ground
SkyeDS: what 	I don't get is, she was just given a major award
SkyeDS: and I 	don't know whose bright idea that was, or why
evile: oh 	well.
evile: I dont' know any of these people, I dont' know 	anything about 
SCA so I dont' know enough to even hazard a guess 	why this person 
deserved any awards.
SkyeDS: it's one of 	those things that just puzzles me on an academic 
level
SkyeDS: 	like the year Arafat got the nobel peace prize
evile: politics 	are confusing.
SkyeDS: I know Lorraine, Linda and some of the 	other marshals are 
trying to stop this stuff as much as they 	can
SkyeDS: like keeping Diane out of the saddle when she's been 	drinking
evile: *nods*
evile: damn, LJ is wigging out 	again.
evile: either it just ate an entry or it posted it into a 	community 
rather than into my own livejournal. ACK.
SkyeDS: 	:(
evile: Oh well. I've been whining entirely too much lately. 	The 
Universe is probably trying to tell me to shut the hell up 	before it 
gives me something to cry about, in its own inimitable 	way.
SkyeDS: lol
SkyeDS: so sleepy
evile: me too. I hope I 	get a nap before the demonstration. But Erinlefey 
& Tangentsferret want to 	get dinner first. So probabl y not.
evile: I think they are going 	to want me to pick the dinner place. 
ick. argh. I hate 	that.
SkyeDS: i'm not good at that unless I have a craving
evile: 	me neither. Plus we are talking about driving & parking 	
downtown at some point...ick.
evile: I guess I'll find out 	where they're at at 5:30 and we can go 
from there. Maybe 	something near them that we can go to and leave a 
car there, 	carpool downtown. something like that.
SkyeDS: good idea
evile: 	Hope so. I think Tangentsferret does low carb. Not as much of a 
challenge 	to find LC menu items as it used to be, though. 
SkyeDS: 	nope
SkyeDS: 1500 products in stores as opposed to like 10 last 	year
SkyeDS: and lots of restaurants are catching on
evile: 	*nods* I heard a radio ad for Serranos where they were talking 	
about their LC menu items.
SkyeDS: speaking of food, slow, 	going to eat
evile: Sweetie got the blue trooper running, BTW. so 	we can now be in 2 
places at the same time. :)
SkyeDS: cool 	:)
evile: yeah. I think he got tired of being stranded while I 	was at 
Krav Maga
SkyeDS: good
evile: The radiator for the 	vanagon is on backorder. Once it's here, 
we'll have 4 running 	vehicles, 2 of which are drivable by me.
SkyeDS: freedom is a 	good thing
evile: Yeah. I will probably be able to drive the 	vanagon, assuming 
he gets it fixed fixed and not jury-rigged 	with some bizarre thing. 
The Ghia is 1) his other woman and 2) 	far too delicate for me to try 
to drive.
SkyeDS: least that 	other woman won't transmit an STD :P
evile: no, she just makes 	him smell bad.
evile: have to drive it with the windows down 	because of the gasoline 
fumes.
evile: yahoo messenger seems 	to be fucking with my ICQ now. the ICQ 
screens just cleared.