Mar. 9th, 2004

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 2005icq w/skye_ds today

    Mar. 9, 2004

     

     

    evile: howdy :)
    SkyeDS: good morning!
    evile: how's your day going?
    SkyeDS: it is a beautiful day, and when Hugh gets back from lunch,
    I'm going to invite him to go for a half hour walk :)
    evile: nice!
    SkyeDS: how's you?
    evile: sleepy. But OK.
    SkyeDS: would be a nice day to take a nap under a tree
    evile: I'd love to be outside. But the days are getting long enough
    to where I might be able to enjoy nature after work.
    SkyeDS: yep
    SkyeDS: when DST kicks in, I'm pondering changing my habits and
    coming in early (7ish) rather than late (9ish) so that I have
    daylight after work.
    evile: That would be cool. Waking up early is tough but it can be
    rewarding.
    SkyeDS: if I could get body used to it eventually it would be good
    evile: yeah. It takes me longer & longer every year to get used to
    the time changes.
    evile: Sweetie wants to camp this weekend. I know several people going to
    opening weekend of Excalibur. Oh well, i'ts only Tuesday, I can
    decide later :)
    SkyeDS: pace bend? either activity sounds good to me, decision
    making isn't my strong point
    SkyeDS: but then too, Excalibur is a more limited opportunity than
    camping, and, opening weekend is even more limited, s ince it only
    happens once a year.
    evile: Sweetie's sister & brother in law are going to be here next
    Wednesday. It would be nice to have him at home for part of the
    weekend in order to help with getting the house ready for visitors
    (dream on, right?)
    SkyeDS: ::tongue firmly in my own cheek:: no comment.
    evile: You're right about opening weekend. I haven't seen any of my
    faire friends since November at TRF...so I'd like to go.
    SkyeDS: using that particular logic, I would go to opening weekend
    and go camping some other time
    SkyeDS: and you and Sweetie do a good job of not being surgically
    connected at the hips (as some have said disparagingly about me and
    mine in the past), so he can do what he wants and you can do what you
    want, and you can camp together another time, no?
    evile: Yup. the only suck thing is Sweetie will probably be gone camping
    all weekend & bring home a bunch of dirty dishes & dirty clothes to
    clutter up the house . argh.
    SkyeDS: speaking of which, since sineater and I do a lot separately these
    days, I think people like to over analyze that too.
    SkyeDS: just can't win with people
    SkyeDS: either we spend too much time together or too much time apart.
    evile: nope.
    evile: Please yourselves and if other people have objections, tough
    crap. If you're happy in the marriage, that's what matters.
    SkyeDS: I like the fact that sineater has an office with a door that
    shuts.
    SkyeDS: if sineater did that, I would gently direct him to his room to
    deposit said things and ask him to please shut the door.
    evile: I don't want dirty dishes anywhere but the kitchen.
    SkyeDS: and then I would ask him politely when he finished if he
    would assist me because it just so happens that right now this moment
    I am preparing for *his* family to visit.
    SkyeDS: ok, sidetrip to dishwasher (rather than sink)
    evile: I've been pointedly ignoring the camping dishes he brought
    home sometime in January. Every other dish in the house is clean.
    SkyeDS: I am so grateful to havec a dishwasher now, you know I didn't
    have one in the old place.
    evile: I'll be goddamned if I don't even have any of the fun of
    camping and still have to do the cuntwork.
    evile: We go camping together and it's pretty well a given that I
    have to plan and shop and pack and shlep. But then we get there and
    it's almost fun enough to make it worth my while.
    evile: And I'm a puritan, I never feel good about having fun if I've
    left a filthy house behind or work undone.
    SkyeDS: if I were going to be sneaky
    SkyeDS: and I'm not good at sneaky
    SkyeDS: I would hug sineater when he came through the door
    SkyeDS: use that as an excuse to take him by the hand
    SkyeDS: use that as an excuse to guide him gently with his stuff to
    his room
    evile: hee
    SkyeDS: while making a side trip to the dishwasher to at least hide
    the dirty dishes (better than in the sink, which has no door)
    SkyeDS: I don't know how well that would work in my situation, much
    less anyone else's.
    SkyeDS: and, if I have to, as much as I hate doing it, I can just put
    my foot down and say, this is the way this is going to be, so do it,
    now, please, thank you.
    evile: Sweetie did dishes last night :) Having a houseguest brought out
    the good in him :)
    SkyeDS: even better
    SkyeDS: you can pet him and praise him lavishly for that
    SkyeDS: before you do the rest.
    SkyeDS: "a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down" ~ Mary
    Poppins
    SkyeDS: I'm thinking I'm going to write a list of 10 things I love
    about sineater and give it to him.
    SkyeDS: except -- it isn't going to be things that he already does
    unfailingly
    SkyeDS: it's going to be a list of things he has done, that I would
    like him to do more often
    evile: Sometimes it's good to remember why you picked this one
    particular ass-headed slob out of the hordes of ass-headed slobs :P
    SkyeDS: I figure, he'll pride himself on that list, and then it WILL
    become a list of things he does unfailingly - self fulfilling prophecy
    evile: It's always nice to be appreciated.
    SkyeDS: like telling someone at work, you know, I really like that
    dress, or some other particular about their dress, and then they
    become very aware of the way they dress and take even more care about
    it
    SkyeDS: kind of reverse psych or something
    evile: except that there are some people who will hear things you're
    not saying. You say "I like that dress" and they hear "wow, you're
    not dressed like a slob for once!"
    evile: With my coworkers, it's best not to say anything.
    SkyeDS: but hopefully it will work on the menfolks
    evile: Depending on the guy, but yeah, most men are a hell of a lot
    more straightforward than most women.
    SkyeDS: I'm not exactly going to lie
    SkyeDS: I'm not going to list things he doesn't do and has never done
    SkyeDS: I'm going to list things that he does that I want him to do
    more often
    evile: yup.
    evile: Sweetie's finally tackling his work room. Unfo, that involves
    moving stuff into the hall & living room to make room to organize
    stuff inside the room. And making a Goodwill pile in the LR, etc.
    *sigh*. It'll be great when its done, though.
    SkyeDS: I'm trying to get around the cut in income and the increase
    in expenses so that I can afford to buy the rest of the fencing
    materials.
    evile: Ah, the joys of property ownership.
    SkyeDS: I think it's frustrating to me and him both to have half the
    stuff in the living room
    SkyeDS: 8 acres of grazing we can't use effectively
    SkyeDS: etc.
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: is nice arrangement. I did the original research into what
    to fence with, bought it, paid for it, and he puts it up
    evile: cool.
    SkyeDS: I have all this mesquite that I have to chop down and dispose
    of. Wish I could sell it. People bbq with it.
    SkyeDS: I could always burn it in the fireplace I guess
    evile: This is true.
    SkyeDS: wouldn't take much time and effort to call the bbq places in
    town and ask them if it would be worth anything to them
    evile: there's an idea :)
    SkyeDS: these kids that keep fishing on our pond despite the no
    trespassing signs showed up again yesterday.
    evile: oh, yuck.
    SkyeDS: I told sineater he could charge them to fish if he wanted to, but
    I don't think he wants to have to keep an eye on.
    evile: yeah and if they drown while they're tresspassing, their
    fucking parents can sue you.
    SkyeDS: places that charge for fishing do a flat fee and then a fee
    per pound per catch, and that's a nuisance
    SkyeDS: that too.
    evile: seems like a time-consuming enterprise, at best. Probably a
    lot of retired folks run these fishing ponds.
    SkyeDS: if I can find a way so that the legal ramifications aren't
    too time consuming, at some point I may let people fish for money
    SkyeDS: but just do a flat fee
    evile: or people who enjoy fishing themselves, so they can fish &
    keep an eye on customers at the same time.
    SkyeDS: I don't want to weigh fish and deal with honesty issues and
    blah blah blah
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: won't cost me anything, the state stocks ponds for free
    evile: I didn't know that.
    SkyeDS: something else I recently fo und out
    SkyeDS: the state or some kin organization gives out 10 free saplings
    on arbor day
    SkyeDS: would make for a nice, free tree lined drive way
    evile: I've gotten the arbor day trees before. Mostly they die.
    SkyeDS: and I want to put up crepe myrtles or some other barrier
    along the fenceline so I don't have to see Levi
    evile: Then again, that could be just me. I plant 10 things, 9 die.
    SkyeDS: what kind of trees do they offer?
    SkyeDS: do you remember what the name of the place was exactly?
    evile: I think it's the arbor day foundation, and I think it's 10
    different trees, supposedly matched to your area so they'll be native
    plants.
    evile: It's been a while. I planted those things at our rental house
    in Greencastle. So wer'e talking 1991-3, right in there somewhere.
    SkyeDS: I think that purple flowering plant I like so much that
    thrives in rockdale is wisteria
    SkyeDS: and I've been wanting wisteria anyway
    evile: wisteria is nice.
    SkyeDS: and Karen has ivy that is invasive and thrives and will share
    with me
    evile: I've killed one o f those before :P
    SkyeDS: and then I want that purple flowering tree, a redbud or
    whatever it is to go with my beautiful apple and pear trees that
    flower white in spring and turn flaming red in fall
    evile: Our duplex had great soil. I regret wasting so much $ on
    planting stuff down there..but it was nice that so much of what I
    planted actually did well.
    SkyeDS: Karen also has roses that she doesn't do a damn thing to that
    are thriving
    evile: redbuds are bloming right now. Sweetie likes those.
    SkyeDS: I've offered to barter training for gardening
    SkyeDS: I hate bartering but it seems like a good idea
    evile: The home & garden show I went to on V-day had the City giving
    out booklets on native plants & xeriscaping. There are several rose
    varieties that do well here.
    evile: There's a book by Neil Sperry on Texas Gardening that is
    apparently the gardener's bible for our area
    SkyeDS: I goin for a walk, bb in a few :)
    evile: Ok, enjoy!
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2007Re: icq w/a. today

 

    Mar. 9, 2004

     

     

    SkyeDS: I back, that was perfectly lovely
    evile: awesome :)
    SkyeDS: hopefully I can get him to go with me regularly, I am much
    better with a partner
    evile: me too :)
    SkyeDS: where is your office again? I'm at 13th/Nueces
    evile: 15th and Congress, right at the capitol, pretty much.
    SkyeDS: wonder how long it would take me to walk there
    SkyeDS: that's only two blocks up and not that many blocks over,
    doesn't seem like
    evile: downtown city blocks are large-ish.
    evile: Looks a slight bit further to your office than to the main
    library. It takes me about 15-20 min to get from my ofice to 8th &
    Guadalupe
    evile: maybe the same distance. I'm bad with maps.
    SkyeDS: I will just have to try walking to the capitol and see what
    happens
    SkyeDS: we circled down to 8th and came back in 20 minutes from here
    evile: When the weather's nice, I like to take a picnic over to the
    capitol & feed the squirrels at lunchtime.
    evile: I may start doing that again, once a week or so, like I did
    this past fall.
    SkyeDS: while we wouldn't be walking together, we could meet there
    and eat
    SkyeDS: I'm thinkin y ou likely have good reason not to drive/park at
    work, so driving there to walk with you wouldn't be good
    evile: That would be nice. The suck thing about being a state
    employee is everything's so regimented. break 9:15-9:30, Lunch 11:30-
    12:30, break 2:30-2:45, every day without fail.
    SkyeDS: ick
    evile: There is no parking around here, unless you want to pay.
    SkyeDS: nah, I like being a ronin
    SkyeDS: I like Hugh
    SkyeDS: I like our offices
    evile: Nice to have a workplace & boss you enjoy :)
    SkyeDS: not much to look at on the outside but the landlord attorney
    has classical tastes and the decor is impeccable
    SkyeDS: it's a tradeoff. I don't get vacation, sick days, holidays
    or benefits. But it isn't like I don't get anything.
    SkyeDS: I get here when I want to get here and leave when I want to
    leave and take lunch or don't for as long as I want
    evile: very cool.
    SkyeDS: and Hugh knows about just about all of my pasttimes and it is
    no trouble and not uncomfortable to say hey, I'm taking off for a
    three day weekend or whatever to go do this thing
    SkyeDS: paid vacation also requires advance notice and most of the
    time needs approval
    evile: exactly
    SkyeDS: and we do okay covering our own healthcare so far, and soon I
    hope to have us where I can buy us catastrophic coverage
    evile: Yeah, that is always a concern.
    SkyeDS: life is good
    evile: beats the alternative any day :P
    SkyeDS: I have labor to do, and it pays (not well, but that can
    change too)
    SkyeDS: I can enjoy the fruits of that labor
    SkyeDS: I can take walks, go riding, go skating, go swimming, go to
    the store, go shopping, cook a meal and eat it.
    SkyeDS: things Bob & Phyl couldn't/can't do.
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: (Bob eats through a feeding tube. Or he's supposed to. He
    eats what he shouldn't, but that's not the point).
    SkyeDS: and I can go to the bathroom. (have you ever had experience
    with dialysis?)
    evile: Aunt L's best friend B. did. It was terrible.
    SkyeDS: nods
    evile: seems a sure way to make yourself unhappy is to focus on what
    you don't have and can't afford. But the opposite of that is to pay
    attention to the blessings that are usually taken for granted.
    SkyeDS: I have pretty trees that bear fruit, and grapevines, and my
    trees are all white flowery
    SkyeDS: and a pond
    SkyeDS: and a creek
    evile: yup. all good things.
    evile: I should definitely get out more & enjoy the weather while I
    can. before it gets too hot to go outside :)
    evile: want to make a lunch 'date' for Friday?
    SkyeDS: sure
    SkyeDS: I can try walking to the capital before then and see how I do
    SkyeDS: sorry slow, we have a client waiting
    evile: No prob :)
    I go to lunch at 11:30 every day, I could be anywhere on the capitol
    grounds by 11:40 at the latest.
    SkyeDS: that reminds me, I have to go get the rent from Maria Friday
    SkyeDS: I am bothered that she can't pay till midmonth, because I'm
    positive we accrue late charges paying Oakwood that way
    SkyeDS: I think may have to call Oakwood and ask them to make our
    payment date the 15th or later
    SkyeDS: if they play nice, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't
    evile: hassle!
    SkyeDS: I'll be happy when they're paid off completely
    SkyeDS: whole reason I'm renting it out is because I owe more on it
    than I could sell it for
    evile: Yeah. That happens.
    SkyeDS: if I can keep a renter, preferably just one, in it for five
    more years I can sell it, burn it, whatever, and be done with Oakwood
    at least
    evile: That would be very nice :) I know the property management has
    given you hassles in the past
    SkyeDS: Maria keeps it in better shape inside than I ever did. If I
    can keep her in it for the next five years, I should be able to keep
    renting it either to her and then making complete profit because it's
    paid off, or rent it to someone else easily because it's in good shape
    SkyeDS: there are worse property management problems.
    evile: That's good.
    SkyeDS: in Leander, block house mud, lawyers send their minions out
    to measure your yard with a ruler
    SkyeDS: and that is not gemini hyperbole
    evile: good lord.
    SkyeDS: and they threaten you with lawsuit if the grass is too long,
    or you have "trash" (completely undefined) in your yard.
    SkyeDS: Nancy & Sheila know if they mess with me too much I'll make
    lawsuit growling noises at them, and they know I'll do it, and they
    know I'll win
    evile: Yuck!
    SkyeDS: most people have good understanding that you do not push me
    to have to pursue my legal remedies, because when I start using that
    language, you is in trouble
    evile: I bet!
    SkyeDS: I find it disgusting that David Boies bills $750 an hour and
    his legal staff can't be bothered to put out correct documents
    without major glaring mistakes in both form and content.
    evile: how embarassing!
    SkyeDS: I would find it so, mortifyingly and humiliatingly so.
    evile: me too.
    evile: BRB, potty break :)
    SkyeDS: Hugh had a secretary once who got mortally offended because
    he generously offered to pay for her to take a class in proofreading
    (k)
    evile: that seems kind of like a win-win, to me.
    SkyeDS: I told him I would cheerfully go anywhere he paid for me to go
    SkyeDS: (especially considering that part of our IC Agmt is that he
    isn't responsible for my training)
    evile: Oh, hey where on the capitol do you want to meet on Friday?
    One of the entrances maybe & then we can pick our picnic spot from
    there?
    evile: I'd jump at a chance to grow my job skills on the employer's
    dime, personally.
    SkyeDS: I will be coming down 15th Street. Where will that put me on
    the capitol grounds?
    evile: There's a series of skylights and then the main north
    entrance faces 15th
    SkyeDS: /me nods
    SkyeDS: I was thinking north entrance, where that circular opening to
    the inground offices are, with the star
    evile: Okay, I know where that is :)
    SkyeDS: which would be a cool place to circle if they'd let you
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: a friend of Hugh's acquired that beautiful building that used
    to be the ARC over here on MLK, the big greco roman antebellum
    looking one and turned it into a hotel and restaurant
    SkyeDS: food critic was talking about it on the radio today
    evile: hm. I'll have to check that out sometime.
    SkyeDS: I think occasionally that I would like to go to nice places
    more often
    SkyeDS: maybe just spend one night in the Driskill and eat nice place
    SkyeDS: or the new place there on MLK, I have always loved that
    building and never been inside it
    SkyeDS: and they closed Basil's and Spiazzo :(
    evile: That's why I like the No Kidding group, really the main
    reason, because I like Restaurant Explorers & such.
    SkyeDS: although Vespaio is owned by former owner of Basil's
    evile: I guess the hard-core foodies will follow their favorite
    chef's/restauranteurs wherever they go :)
    SkyeDS: I haven't tried vespaio yet, or carmelo's on 5th
    SkyeDS: or gone to what is it called, green pastures?
    SkyeDS: one off of like live oak and oltorf, in an old house w/
    peacocks?
    evile: I've been there, long time ago, back when L&B were meat
    eaters. It was awesome.
    SkyeDS: East Side is pretty, but I found the prices to be
    unacceptable given the small portions and the quality of the food
    SkyeDS: I mean it was good but it wasn't all that
    SkyeDS: and I didn't like the service at all.
    SkyeDS: I don't mind dropping that much money but I'd better get my
    money's worth when I do.
    evile: I've never been there.
    SkyeDS: Basil's was worth at least that much.
    SkyeDS: but I know, I'm hard to please.
    SkyeDS: although I know people harder to please than myself, because
    they are conoisseurs and I'm not.
    evile: I'll try anything once.
    SkyeDS: I just want not to feel like I wasted my money, on teh
    quality and/or quantity of food.
    SkyeDS: it's kind of across from Hoover's, east side is.
    SkyeDS: and it's kind of cool, they grow all their own stuff and have
    an old house and a shop and all
    evile: I've driven past it a few times. I hear its good.
    SkyeDS: and the food was good, but it wasn't great
    SkyeDS: and the portions were tiny
    SkyeDS: and the prices are high
    SkyeDS: and the service sucked
    evile: bad service is inexcusable.
    SkyeDS: which is sad because it had a lovely patio and I'm always
    looking for nice patio places
    SkyeDS: as an IC I should also be able to write off certain expenses
    regarding meals and entertainment and such if I can plausibly relate
    them to business
    evile: I would think so.
    SkyeDS: going skating ona worknight while in austin already probably
    wouldn't work too well
    SkyeDS: given that I drive two hours a day, and when I get off work I
    just want to go home.
    SkyeDS: I should probably skate on a Fri or Sat night
    evile: yeah. Long work day & commute pretty much wears you out by the
    end of the day.
    evile: I may not be able to do Tuesday skate night for a while,
    anyway. Not just creepyJeff, but I'm thinking of taking a tues/thurs
    self defense class.
    SkyeDS: now if I could just get Hugh to move to Rockdale, Taylor,
    Plugerville, Hutto or Round Rock (never happen LOL)
    SkyeDS: that sounds like a great idea.
    SkyeDS: they're teaching women who ride trails in Oregon & Washington
    self defense
    SkyeDS: I'm like ok
    SkyeDS: you're on a 1000+ pound animal
    SkyeDS: its first reaction to a threat is to run 35+ miles an hour
    away from it
    SkyeDS: if it can't do that, it will bite and kick, causing harm
    and/or death
    SkyeDS: so why would you not use your horse's natural habits as
    defense.
    evile: assuming you are attacked while mounted great. But what about
    the trail rides where you camp out several nights.
    SkyeDS: what I read was just about being attacked while riding on
    trails
    evile: you're in your tent, in your sleeping bag, and some cowboy
    comes into your tent and pins you down. What is your horse going to
    do?
    SkyeDS: like, one lesson is, run away and don't let them pull you out
    of the saddle
    SkyeDS: I'm like people have to pay to be told this?
    evile: You dismount to take a piss and some cowboy comes over and
    tries to give you a poke. what does your horse do then?
    SkyeDS: I didn't see anything about dismounting (other than they say
    not to)
    evile: It's great to have a thousand pound fast running friend, but
    it's good to be able to depend on yourself, too.
    SkyeDS: what I saw had to do with, don't get down, run away, let your
    horse bite and kick if necessary
    SkyeDS: all of which, to me at least, is homer simpson duh
    evile: Sorry, I wouldn't piss my self or my saddle.
    SkyeDS: I wonder if they cover another duh issue
    SkyeDS: don't go trail riding by yourself
    SkyeDS: (something I used to get lectured about all the time and I
    finally quit)
    SkyeDS: and that's not just self defense issue either, but a health
    hazard and safety issue
    SkyeDS: saw in an article elsewhere where it said, if you go riding
    with a cellphone, don't get one of those gadgets that hangs it on
    your saddle
    evile: what if the person you trust to be your riding partner turns
    into a predator?
    SkyeDS: because if you come down it will run away with your horse
    SkyeDS: another duh moment
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: I don't know if they talk about that
    SkyeDS: just, t he things they did cover, are duh things
    SkyeDS: and things that if people can't figure out for themselves, I
    don't know that they really need to be on a horse.
    evile: It never hurts to be prepared, I don't think. And something
    that's a 'duh' while you're talking about it may not be so obvious
    once you are in the situation and feeling threatened.
    SkyeDS: I mean, I don't have to pay someone to tell me that if
    someone comes at me in a threatening manner that I shoudl run
    SkyeDS: on the other hand
    evile: example: I have been told a million times to call the police
    when you're in a wreck. Every wreck I've ever had, I've neglected to
    call the police.
    SkyeDS: someone else do it?
    SkyeDS: one of the first lessons about riding is or should be, what
    to do in dangerous situations
    SkyeDS: whether that be run away, walk away, get down, don't get
    down, whatever
    SkyeDS: and a lot of people for example won't bail when they ought to
    for whatever reason
    SkyeDS: tough it out on top of an out of his head emotional dangerous
    horse
    evile: It happens. Nobody knows how they will be in a panic-type
    situation until it happens.
    SkyeDS: I'm a fraidy cat, and my method of dealing with scarey is, if
    I don't have to, I don't deal with it. So, if horse panics, I get
    down.
    SkyeDS: if someone threatens us, or makes me feel like they are, we
    go away, far and fast.
    evile: yeah. as you know, common sense ain't so common.
    SkyeDS: I don't have a lot of common sense but I have some.
    SkyeDS: but I think mostly that I'm just a fraidy cat
    SkyeDS: like I tell the people I see every once or twice a year on
    the Cbar trail ride
    SkyeDS: I ride the baby trails
    SkyeDS: because I KNOW I'm a baby
    evile: Hey, whatever keeps you alive & well
    SkyeDS: but I do my damndest not to be a WHINY baby
    SkyeDS: you aren't going to hear me whining about being in the
    creekbed once it's too late
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: if I can't do it (because I'm scared), then I turn around if
    I can without causing trouble to others
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: and if I can't, I secure reins, grab mane, bury face so I can
    relax, and I let Mirage do what she does best
    SkyeDS: because she doesn't need me to be scared
    evile: right.
    SkyeDS: I don't know if you'd like trail ride &/or campouts or not
    SkyeDS: I do though
    evile: camping, no. trail rides, maybe.
    SkyeDS: lots of places not too far away to go day trailing, like
    McKinney Roughs
    SkyeDS: Pace Bend too, I think
    SkyeDS: although just the gate fees sound stiff there
    evile: That's why the Chenonceau ride is so attractive. You ride for
    the day, then spend the night at a chateau eating and drinking
    wonderful things, get a nice shower & a comfortable bed...best of
    both worlds.
    SkyeDS: and you would probably enjoy happy horse hotel, just down the
    road from McK Roughs
    SkyeDS: run by rennies
    evile: The county parks are 'pay by the carload' mostly, so the more
    people you can get to go with you the cheaper it gets per person.
    SkyeDS: only have two horses, no point in taking more than two people
    SkyeDS: unless people are willing to wait and take turns
    SkyeDS: but then we did three days of rides that way, with sineater me
    and sonar0m all taking turns, and everyone got riding in
    SkyeDS: and, saved us from being as saddle sore as we would have been
    if we'd all been riding the entire time
    evile: Or unless people want to camp & hike and not ride.
    SkyeDS: zactly
    SkyeDS: when each of us weren't riding we were happily entertaining
    ourselves otherwise, drawing, reading, whatever
    SkyeDS: babysitting the tyrannomacaw
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: now, if you and me, and sineater and Sweetie, went, t hat might be
    good?
    SkyeDS: I want to get Randy and Princess to do that sort of thing
    with me at Somerville
    SkyeDS: I even have a name for our little cavalry unit
    evile: heh.
    SkyeDS: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse :)
    evile: awesome ;)
    SkyeDS: we haven't figured out who's which yet, but who cares
    evile: too funny!
    SkyeDS: is interesting, Merrick is freckled gray like Mirage, but his
    mane and tail are black
    evile: pretty
    SkyeDS: and Strider is a blue roan but looks nearly black and is
    gaited (like Jezebel)
    SkyeDS: you'd think I did it on purpose
    evile: that's cool, nice coincidence :)
    SkyeDS: a Paso like Strider would be perfect for you too.
    SkyeDS: he's a Peruvian.
    evile: nice.
    SkyeDS: but I don't know if Peruvian or Fino would make a difference
    to you.
    evile: I don't know enough about it to say
    SkyeDS: Peruvians are built like Jesse and Finos are built like Mirage
    SkyeDS: but they are gaited, flashy as hell, high spirited but gentle
    souled and can and will do anything and do it well.
    evile: cool
    SkyeDS: I keep telling Meghan, now if you decide you don't want
    STrider anymore, I'll take him off your hands
    evile: hee
    SkyeDS: (I suspect there will be snowflakes in hell first)
    evile: more than likely :)
    evile: It would be fun to go for a 'test drive'....but that's pretty
    dishonest since I'll never be buying. And while I wouldn' t mind
    inconveniencing an auto sales person, I would feel bad about doing
    the same to the horse-sellers
    SkyeDS: when one of two things happen, and one or both will happen,
    it's just a matter of time
    SkyeDS: either I will breed the girls so I can have babies
    SkyeDS: and/or I will acquire a Friesian, a Gypsy, and an Andalusian
    SkyeDS: I will need help
    SkyeDS: because I can't ride them all at one time :)
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: what kind of sucks is that the horses that I helped Randy
    with are now both bonded to me
    SkyeDS: not to the exclusion of others, I hope, and maybe part of it
    is that no matter how much I try to teach it, some people just don't
    snuggle horses as well as others.
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: I don't completely get it
    SkyeDS: they saw more of sineater than of me in terms of time because he
    fed them
    SkyeDS: they see more of Randy & the kids than they do of me
    SkyeDS: but they seek out snuggles when I'm around, and I've tried to
    get Randy & Meghan to snuggle, but it isn't quite the same
    evile: hopefully with some time & use they'll bond better with their
    own people.
    SkyeDS: they love their people, no doubt about that
    evile: Both cats like Sweetie better than they like me. That's life, I
    guess.
    SkyeDS: I don't understand cats as well as I would if I'd had them
    SkyeDS: I was making friends with what appeared to be a large
    domestic cat in the yard the other day
    SkyeDS: and sineater came home and freaked out
    SkyeDS: here kitty kitty, scritch scritch
    SkyeDS: what the HELL are you doing?
    SkyeDS: I'm playing with the cat
    SkyeDS: that's a BOBCAT get away from it
    SkyeDS: I suppose that means you don't want me to feed it milk.
    evile: bobcats can be domesticated. And they breed with domestic cats
    SkyeDS: he was less than pleased.
    evile: (as domesticated as cats get, anyway, I guess I should say)
    SkyeDS: I swear though, it looked just like a different cat I thought
    I knew
    evile: But wild cats do carry diseases. 'cat scratch fever' is n't
    just a song.
    SkyeDS: it wasn't like I went out to pet a bobcat on purpose
    SkyeDS: I was playing with what I thought was a husky once, and he
    said, that's at least half wolf, leave it alone
    evile: wolf/dog hybrids seem to have some behavior issues
    SkyeDS: I'm not entirely sure it's good to have hybrids and I know
    the law doesn't allow fullblood wolves as pets unless they were born
    and acquired by the owners prior to 1972
    evile: they can be skitzy and/or interpret some body language as a
    dog would, but other gestures as a wolf would & you can find yourself
    missing digits.
    evile: But...cats are skitzy regardless. So... you're just as safe
    with a bobcat as you would be with a stray.
    evile: (not very)
    SkyeDS: it looked like the cat that belonged to Harold & Fandy
    SkyeDS: I am so looking forward to a tree lined driveway that they
    can't use anymore, and privacy trees/bushes like crepe myrtles or
    something else so I can't see them anymore
    evile: big tabby with no tail? Not unheard of
    SkyeDS: Harold, Fandy, their kids, Theresa and her son are all living
    on that place now
    evile: wow.
    SkyeDS: Sineater told Levi that if we saw the dogs on our place again,
    without the tags Levi says he has for them (rabies) then we will
    dispose of them (without being more specific)
    SkyeDS: Levi swears they've had shots and have tags but they don't
    wear them and he also says that they're strays anyway.
    evile: yuck
    SkyeDS: Sineater wanted to use the horse trailer to haul them off with
    SkyeDS: I'm like, um no.
    SkyeDS: matter of fact, I'm not sure how to catch the mangy one or
    transport it without contagion.
    evile: I really wish the animal control folks out there were more
    reliable!
    SkyeDS: I'm not even sure if we have animal control for dogs in the
    county since the sheriff told Wayne & Connie just to shoot them.
    SkyeDS: I told Sineater, you want to catch & transport fine
    SkyeDS: but you aren't using Arthur's cage
    SkyeDS: or the horse trailer
    SkyeDS: and you aren't coming anywhere near the rest of us until you
    find some sure way of decontamination
    evile: I'd keep checking with city officials and see if you can get
    some kind of professional to take care of it.
    SkyeDS: city's out. we don't live in the city.
    evile: county. Somebody who has the equipment to deal with diseased
    animals.
    SkyeDS: not sure who t hat would be
    SkyeDS: when Connie told the Sheriff that she didn't know if they
    were protected against rabies, he called the Mullins himself
    SkyeDS: and they haven't gotten back in touch with him
    SkyeDS: so the Sheriff seems to be under the impression that it's his
    bailwick
    SkyeDS: don't know if it really is or not
    evile: well, it's certainly not worth risking yourselves or your
    animals' health & well being.
    SkyeDS: it isnt' something I felt like debating
    SkyeDS: so I just laid down the law as far as I saw it going
    SkyeDS: Arthur's cage and the horse trailer are off limits
    evile: What are your taxes paying for, if not professional services
    to deal with public health issues?
    SkyeDS: you want to catch the dogs and put them in the truck bed, fine
    SkyeDS: but you aren't coming in the house till you're positively
    clean, h owever you have to get that way
    evile: yuck.
    SkyeDS: he also said he'd mentioned to Wayne that one of the dogs had
    mange which is highly contagious
    SkyeDS: but he said that Wayne didn't seem to find that problematic
    because he didn't think there was contact enough
    SkyeDS: all of this second/thirdhand conversation of course
    evile: right.
    evile: ooh, interesting new post on the voyagers yahoo group. I
    probably shouldn't answer...
    evile: A guy found himself fascinated by/attracted to the TV guys at
    the party.
    evile: & is kind of freaking out because he considers hmself hetero.
    SkyeDS: I refuse to freak at anything sexually
    SkyeDS: safe sane and consentual is a perfect motto just the way it is
    evile: It's probably easier when you're bi. :P
    SkyeDS: it's all a labeling thing
    SkyeDS: and I hate labels
    SkyeDS: they are too related to pigeonholes and box restrictive
    thinking
    SkyeDS: and the Celts said, never name the well from which you will
    not drink
    evile: sure. But...what if you woke up one morning and everyone was
    calling you 'he' and 'him' even though you were still exactly what
    you are now?
    SkyeDS: and it's certainly an invitation to trouble when you do it
    with sex
    SkyeDS: I wouldn't know until it happened
    SkyeDS: but I did have a conversation with Tom about th eterm "lady
    lawyer" once
    SkyeDS: I don't want to be a "lady" lawyer
    SkyeDS: I would want to be a lawyer. Period. No distinction.
    evile: It's cool that the Voyagers group exists as a place to find
    new and interesting things and ask questions without feeling judged.
    SkyeDS: one of the contradictions of our founding
    SkyeDS: our founders wanted political and religious freedom
    SkyeDS: but were Puritans
    SkyeDS: and hence really inhibited about sex, and so the populace is,
    right down to today
    SkyeDS: leave our guns alone, leave our religion alone, and don't
    show us nipples on tv or we'll die
    evile: I'm a puritan in some aspects of my life. But I also see that
    my standards are not universal nor should I judge people by them.
    evile: YKIOK
    SkyeDS: /me blinks at the acronym she's never seen before
    evile: Your Kink Is O K
    SkyeDS: way I figured it, before I realized even that I had strange
    tastes (I'm always discovering new ones, wh ich is fun if you don't
    get weirded out)
    SkyeDS: is, I have vices
    SkyeDS: I don't care to be lectured about them
    SkyeDS: I don't lecture others about theirs unless or until they
    cause harm to others
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: far as I'm concerned if there is no victim there is no crime
    (why I hate drug, gambling, prostitution and other "vice" law)
    SkyeDS: the war on drugs is a waste of resources...time, money,
    people, everything
    SkyeDS: and an excuse to throw out civil rights
    SkyeDS: bad things that come from drug use are already against the
    law anyway....assault and battery, weapons, stealing, etc
    SkyeDS: and prohibition in this country has never worked, it made the
    mafia laugh all the way to the bank the way the drug cartels do now
    (surprise surprise, quoteth gomer pyle)
    evile: I guess the main problem is that a lot of people have no
    border between 'indulgence' and 'addiction'. And being addicted to
    sex, gambling, and drugs *can* hurt other people, like family members
    who are depending on you to provide for them with the $, time, and
    energy you are wasting on sex, gambling,and drugs.
    SkyeDS: but harming other people is already against the law
    SkyeDS: existing laws outside of possession and selling laws I mean
    evile: true.But some of the stuff is hard to pin down. And I'd argue
    that there are plenty of legal things that are just as destructive to
    relationships as drugs, gambling, and seeing whores.
    SkyeDS: and I don't notice the existing war on drugs stopping
    families from being destroyed by those things either
    evile: Lisalotte's endless EverQuest playing comes to mind.
    SkyeDS: zactly
    evile: Could Thax divorce her on grounds of lack of congress, maybe.
    But not likely.
    SkyeDS: and if you legalize drugs and prostitution you can regulate
    them
    SkyeDS: and gasp profit from taxing them
    SkyeDS: in Texas he could divorce her "just because"
    SkyeDS: insupportability (which isn't defined, at all)
    evile: sure. And since there's no kids, no pesky child support. And
    since it's texas, no alimony.
    SkyeDS: insupportability = I don't want to be married anymore, no
    reason given.
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: and I don't think the government needs to be social
    engineering
    SkyeDS: vice law is social engineering
    SkyeDS: and who gets to decide whose vices are against the law in the
    first place
    SkyeDS: public schools are now social engineering (they were good
    once, but not now)
    evile: indeed
    SkyeDS: telling consenting adults who can and can't get married is
    social engineering
    SkyeDS: gov shoudln't even call it marriage, that's a religious
    institution
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: gov's deal in domestic contracts
    SkyeDS: and should either honor them all or none
    SkyeDS: and I don't know why it should be important whether I get
    called "he" or "she"
    evile: As long as it doesnt' fuck with my tax rate or my property
    values, whatever my neighbors do should be OK.
    SkyeDS: even where dress code is concerned
    SkyeDS: I can wear a suit with slacks and a tie, and that is
    appropriate regardless of my gender.
    SkyeDS: of course, then you have the theoretical reverse, which is
    that men should be able to wear a skirt suit with hose and heels, and
    we know that dog don't hunt and probably never will, unless he never
    reveals that he is a he.
    SkyeDS: but it should.
    evile: yup
    evile: personally, I dont' see why anyone would want to wear
    pantyhose unless they had to.
    SkyeDS: on the other hand, there are many idiosyncrasies I have in my
    private life that I don't "wear" to the office
    SkyeDS: I can now, because Hugh doesn't care
    SkyeDS: but in most places I couldn't
    SkyeDS: my ren stuff
    SkyeDS: so it could be argued, that you wear what the boss tells you
    to wear and if you don't like the gender specificity, tough.
    evile: yup.
    SkyeDS: there are judges in dallas that throw women lawyers out of
    courtrooms if they're wearing pants, to this very day
    evile: well, it's 'their' court, right. They could throw anyone out
    if they wanted
    SkyeDS: that's what the rules of procedure state
    evile: One would assume that the women would know the 'rules' or
    quirks of the judges and deal with it. Either by conforming to the
    judges dress code or finding other employment. By agreeing to work in
    XYZ environment, you are agreeing to the working conditions, whatever
    they may be.
    SkyeDS: and if you are a man who likes to dress like a woman, that's
    tough, you don't get to do it at work.
    SkyeDS: you don't get to wear sleeveless sundresses or open toed
    shoes even with hose, no matter how tasteful they may be, no?
    evile: I like wearing my pajamas, but I dont' get to wear them at
    work.
    evile: OTOH, if I started wearing PJ's and my boss didn't say
    anything for a set amount of time, they'd lose their bitching rights.
    If they tried to enforce dress code after letting me wear PJs for a
    while, I could sue :)
    SkyeDS: I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me
    SkyeDS: I know if someone breaches a contract and you don't do
    anything about it in a certain amount of time, you lose your right to
    evile: yup. 'acceptable business practice' or somesuch.
    evile: and it has to be universally enforced. I could sue if I wore
    PJ's and someone else did too, but I ws the only one reprimanded.
    SkyeDS: I knew that
    SkyeDS: that is true for example of religious jewelry (crosses v
    ankhs v stars of david v pentacles v yin yangs etc)
    evile: yup
    SkyeDS: I think the laws for what can and can't be done in state &
    federal offices is different th an what the private sector employer
    is allowed to do, I'm just not sure how
    evile: I should know this, but I'm lazy!
    SkyeDS: private sector isn't nearly as regulated as public sector
    SkyeDS: because as you know better than I, we are at will a dn right
    to work
    evile: yeah.
    SkyeDS: I dont' know if I would be bothered by someone mistaking me
    for a man or not
    SkyeDS: I don't think so, though, but I don't know
    SkyeDS: it wouldn't make me feel threatened or insecure though, I'm
    pretty sure, and it's hardly an insult
    evile: I think I have enough secondary characteristics that ti would
    never happen in the flesh. It's happened online & just made me laugh
    SkyeDS: I hope for his sake that he learns to be comfortable with
    this newly discovered facet of himself
    SkyeDS: and all others he discovers, because I"m sure there are
    probably more
    SkyeDS: accept yourself first, then accept others.
    evile: me too. I did post a reply. Mostly what we said here. YKIOK,
    and really there are enough jerks in the world judging you adn
    calling you names, don't do it to yourself.
    evile: Did I tell you about that part of the Voyagers party? Very
    uncomfortable for me: people started introducing themselves & it
    mutated into not only names, but orientation & kinks as well. I
    said "if you wanna know, ask".
    SkyeDS: amen
    SkyeDS: good lord, if I had to start applying labels to myself
    SkyeDS: in general, much less just specific sexual labels
    SkyeDS: I'd have to write a resume and say here
    SkyeDS: I hate labels and pigeonholes
    evile: I like the voyagers,and I am sure that none of my interests
    would seem too out of place, but...it's none of anybody's business
    but mine and my playmates'.
    SkyeDS: if you want to know something about someone, how bout just
    watching and listening (how I learn lots)
    evile: Or initiating a one on one conversation, maybe? Jeez, how
    novel.
    SkyeDS: I couldn't any more answer such a question succinctly than I
    could succinctly name my favorite food
    evile: exactly. :)
    evile: well, it's about time for me to make the rounds.
    SkyeDS: I just tell people I'll try anything once and if it hurts I d
    on't do it again (within boundaries - some things I won't even try
    once)
    SkyeDS: yep
    evile: Good talkin with ya :)

    SkyeDS: sees ya tomorrow or whenever, and Friday unless circumstances
    prevent
    SkyeDS: ciao bella :)
    evile: Yup :)
    evile: *hugs!*
    SkyeDS: hugs

evile: (clutter)
 

 

 

    Mar. 9, 2004

     

     

    me to J-Law:

    UB is trying to rope me into another workout-buddy catastrophe. She
    works a few blocks from me these days. Ugh.

    J-Law wrote:

    DON'T DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    me:

    no sh*t, right? damn that woman is a mess. Always dragging me into
    these ridiculous no win situations. What ever.
    ---
    J-Law:

    What is it about UB. One would hope that in all of this newfound
    clarity she purports to be experiencing, that she would realize
    that, "gee whiz, every time I emotionally swindle evilE into being my
    alleged workout buddy, it all goes south and I kick up a big drama
    that drains both of us."

    But I guess that would be too much to hope for.
    ===
    me:

    I keep thinking it's Wednesday.

    "Insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting
    different results."--which is pretty much classic UB.

    The only person who can break the cycle is me, because she either
    doesn't see it or can't break it herself (because she's nuts, because
    she has more invested in crazy than she does in sane, because she
    really does think something magic will happen THIS time)
    So...I gently put some obstacles up and said maybe we should just see
    each other on weekends whenever we're both at the same HFS
    event/gathering.

    [I lied to J-Law--WHY? Because I did something stupid and I'm ashamed
    of myself for suggesting meeting ub for lunch fri]

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