Jan. 7th, 2002

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  • Jan. 7, 2002
     
    sue
    Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 9:05 am
    Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens

    It is hard watching someone you love being hurt over
    and over. It seams so easy..."get out"!!!! But for
    now, that is his journey, that is his course, and it
    is exactly where he needs to be.
    Your brother has a gift...a sister that loves him very
    much!
    Take care!
    Sue
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    Softwareman 
    Date: Fri Jan 4, 2002 4:36 pm
    Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens

    This was good for me to read because I'm sure that if
    my family knew or understood BPD this is how they
    would feel.
    Everyone in my family basically gave up when I went
    back to BP after last break up. Can't say as I blame
    them.
    So I'm totally cut off, as the "valued one " you speak
    of will one day know. But You might be the key person
    or the one that "ONE GREAT DAY" he will come to.
    We all must never lose hope or vision. Without it, we
    are lost.

    (I had a problem deciding who was what gender here in
    this post, but that's me..)


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    garmar51
    Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 6:43 am
    Subject: Re: s*** happens


    As one who once was determined to "save" a BP from herself, I don't
    envy your position one bit. I too was committed, a slave and deaf to
    the warnings of friends. However, I did heed the advice of the mental
    health care professionals, eventually, and learn to set boundaries
    for my own mental health and well-being, and to help my BP to find
    some order in her disordered mind.

    I think we get back to the fact that no one (BP or Non) will change
    until they want to change. That was so true with me. When I learned
    that my behaviour was enabling the BP rather than helping, I decided
    to change it. I ended up getting dumped, and as painful as that is,
    it is the best thing for me. We Nons have such a difficult time
    learning that we come first.

    I spent 8 weeks in a boundary class learning how to say "yes" to the
    good and "no" to the bad, but the hardest thing for me to accept was
    that sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do feels very
    cruel. Along those same lines, sometimes you must hurt a BPs feelings
    in order to help them, but hurting them does no harm to them at all.

    In my case, I knew what to do long before I found the courage to do
    it.

    --Garmar
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    Steven
    Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 6:54 am
    Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens


    *sigh*
    i think all you can do is try. don't sacrifice your
    self respect or dignity. there are ways to reach out
    without that, especially since you are not directly in
    her line of fire.
    it takes a very undestanding and sympathetic person to
    do this. i have a friend that takes the bull by the
    horns and talks directly to the bp in my life in a
    nonthreatening but loving way. unlike the majority of
    people who get run off, and this friend, she comes
    accross as being non-judgemental. you see, the bp is
    not a comfortable person at all.
    the disease is the enemy, not the person. it probably
    is not how she would choose, if she knew how to
    choose. you are actually in a position to help and to
    forge a bond with her. if you succeed, it'll probably
    be worth it. you will also learn about human behavior
    along the way and the ultimate reward, your brother's
    gratitude. he's got it hard. maybe he needs some help.
    (i realize i don't know the history here, but i hope
    you're willing to try this-it's worth a shot)
    steven
    ps:don't forget, she's probably afraid of you.
    good luck whatever you decide

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