sue
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 9:05 am
Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens
It is hard watching someone you love being hurt over
and over. It seams so easy..."get out"!!!! But for
now, that is his journey, that is his course, and it
is exactly where he needs to be.
Your brother has a gift...a sister that loves him very
much!
Take care!
Sue
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Softwareman
Date: Fri Jan 4, 2002 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens
This was good for me to read because I'm sure that if
my family knew or understood BPD this is how they
would feel.
Everyone in my family basically gave up when I went
back to BP after last break up. Can't say as I blame
them.
So I'm totally cut off, as the "valued one " you speak
of will one day know. But You might be the key person
or the one that "ONE GREAT DAY" he will come to.
We all must never lose hope or vision. Without it, we
are lost.
(I had a problem deciding who was what gender here in
this post, but that's me..)
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garmar51
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 6:43 am
Subject: Re: s*** happens
As one who once was determined to "save" a BP from herself, I don't
envy your position one bit. I too was committed, a slave and deaf to
the warnings of friends. However, I did heed the advice of the mental
health care professionals, eventually, and learn to set boundaries
for my own mental health and well-being, and to help my BP to find
some order in her disordered mind.
I think we get back to the fact that no one (BP or Non) will change
until they want to change. That was so true with me. When I learned
that my behaviour was enabling the BP rather than helping, I decided
to change it. I ended up getting dumped, and as painful as that is,
it is the best thing for me. We Nons have such a difficult time
learning that we come first.
I spent 8 weeks in a boundary class learning how to say "yes" to the
good and "no" to the bad, but the hardest thing for me to accept was
that sometimes the most compassionate thing you can do feels very
cruel. Along those same lines, sometimes you must hurt a BPs feelings
in order to help them, but hurting them does no harm to them at all.
In my case, I knew what to do long before I found the courage to do
it.
--Garmar
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Steven
Date: Sat Jan 5, 2002 6:54 am
Subject: Re: [NonBPNook] Re: s*** happens
*sigh*
i think all you can do is try. don't sacrifice your
self respect or dignity. there are ways to reach out
without that, especially since you are not directly in
her line of fire.
it takes a very undestanding and sympathetic person to
do this. i have a friend that takes the bull by the
horns and talks directly to the bp in my life in a
nonthreatening but loving way. unlike the majority of
people who get run off, and this friend, she comes
accross as being non-judgemental. you see, the bp is
not a comfortable person at all.
the disease is the enemy, not the person. it probably
is not how she would choose, if she knew how to
choose. you are actually in a position to help and to
forge a bond with her. if you succeed, it'll probably
be worth it. you will also learn about human behavior
along the way and the ultimate reward, your brother's
gratitude. he's got it hard. maybe he needs some help.
(i realize i don't know the history here, but i hope
you're willing to try this-it's worth a shot)
steven
ps:don't forget, she's probably afraid of you.
good luck whatever you decide