evile | 3236bullshit w/sineater re: 'snarking'/'egging on', I suspect.

May 24, 2005

--- sineater wrote:

Thank you,

sineater .

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-----Original Message-----
From: evilE
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:38 PM
To: ., sineater
Subject: Re: Yo!

Short, sweet & to the point, eh?

You're welcome :)

As always when a gathering exceeds a certain size, I
don't feel like I got to visit enough with everyone, but I hope you
had a nice time.

Love ya, bro!

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--- sineater wrote:
Had a good time, though sounds like I missed the fun
stuff ;)
Had a question for you, not sure how to ask it
though
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: "evilE H"
Subject: RE: Yo!
To: sineater

I figured something was up; you don't usually write or
call just to say hi. :P

Ask away; I reserve the right to say no and/or
respectfully decline to answer, as any thinking adult
is free to do. :)

3237Re: bullshit w/sineater re: 'snarking'/'egging on', I suspect.

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May 24, 2005

--- sineater wrote:
Well of course, turkey-butt. :P
Have I done anything to piss ladydreamtime or Nikiyoy
off? (Or did I just have really bad BO yesterday? *snf snf*)

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-----Original Message-----
From: evilE
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:51 PM
To: ., sineater
Subject: RE: Yo!

Is there a specific incident you are referring to,
or some general
'vibe' you just picked up out of the ether?

-- sineater wrote:
Nah just a vibe I guess
*bzzzzzz*

Subject: RE: Yo!
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:54:21 -0500
From: sineater
To: evile

I'm just paranoid :(

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Me to sineater:

FWIW:

ladydreamtime is not very touchy-feely with anyone, she doesn't often show up
to things alone or sit and visit for very long, and she's not
inclined to sit and listen to anyone go on about things that don't
interest her for any length of time. She likes BDSM and Musicals and
Theatre, and that's what she'll talk about at length, and not much
else. That's just her way, so if that's the way she treated you,
that's the way she is.

Nikiyoy may have been acting protectively towards Onyxlynxx. I noticed that
you were being a little handsy with Onyxlynxx, and Onyxlynxx didn't seem 100%
comfy. But I don't know if she was uncomfy with YOU, or because it
was a larger crowd than she's used to, or what. Since Onyxx didn't
actually SAY anything, I didn't take any action, but Nikiyoy is a bit
more sensitive about such things due to her own experiences and may
have been acting from that.

Hope that helps.

3238Re: bullshit w/sineater re: 'snarking'/'egging on', I suspect.

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May 24, 2005

Subject: RE: Yo!
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:04:32 -0500
From: sineater

Ah ok. Glad to know I didn't smell bad... I'm sorry if I made Onyxlynxx
uncomfortable. I know she's going through some rough shit, guess I was
overcomforting. I will extend apologies. Nikiyoy didn't seem so much
protective as just crabby. I wanted to ask who peed in her Post
Toasties, then thoguht better of it. And sorry, didn't realize I was
being too touchy feely. Everybody was hugging me... Especially the
men.
Umm... K...

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From:

evile

E
May 24, 2005
e:
> Subject: RE: Yo!
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 14:04:32 -0500
> From: sineater
..
>
>
> Ah ok. Glad to know I didn't smell bad... I'm sorry if I made Kirby
> uncomfortable. I know she's going through some rough shit, guess I
was
> overcomforting. I will extend apologies. Niki didn't seem so much
> protective as just crabby. I wanted to ask who peed in her Post
> Toasties, then thoguht better of it. And sorry, didn't realize I was
> being too touchy feely. Everybody was hugging me... Especially the
> men.
> Umm... K...
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-----Original Message-----
From: evilE
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:34 PM
To: ., sineater
Subject: RE: Yo!

eh, I didn't say you didn't stink--I just mentioned
other possibilities!
:P

It's always interesting when I think I had a
successful gathering and we
all had fun and it turns out that wasn't the case at
all. Oh well.
That'll learn me.

Love ya, bro.

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--- sineaterwrote:

Ey wasn't a major thing, and I did have fun,
overall. Nikiyoy seemed kinda
crabby, but hey, not my problem. There's freaks and
there's freaks. ;P
Teh food was yummy. Thoguht that little green guy on
the end was cool,
and got along pretty well with everyone else (or so
it seems to me,
phbbbbt) Wish I'd been able to stay later. Pesky
job, why won't they pay
me to sleep or something? ;)

======================

I'm glad you 'mostly' had a fun time, anyway.

Thanks for coming out :)

From:

evile

May 24, 2005

--- sineater wrote:

Hey, don't be bummed, please. I'm not complaining
and I had a good time.
It's good to get together and laugh and have a good
time and shit. I
enjoyed talking to you and watching you whip people
with a rubber bat!
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Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "evilE”

Nope, not bummed. I've decided that I had a fun time,
and since it was my party and my house, that's the
important part.

I just wish I could get together with people without
some of them deciding the next day that they were
being attacked, or whatever.

From:

evile

May 25, 2005

When I got home from Wings last night, there was a message from sineater
on the machine, somethng about "I don't want to fight, I just want to
talk, so we can work this out"

My immediate response, shared in LJ w/onyxlynxx:

Now I'm definitely working on developing my "RL NO DRAMA" LJ filter;
screw this garbage.

Got home from dinner to find a message on the machine from sineater "Call
me. I don't want to fight with you, I just want to work this out"

WHAT "this"??? WTF is going ON here, for fucks sake.

I hate this shit. I hate her. I want her DEAD. I am SICK AND FUCKING
TIRED of having my brother sicced on me like the sad, obedient puppy
dog he is. He doesn't want to bite me in the ass, but Mistress
commands that he unleash The Wrath, and I sense he's trying hard to
find some way to obey her and still have some kind of relatinship
with me.

Austin to Rockdale is a 40 cents a minute (or something crazy like
that) toll call. I am NOT wasting my own money (or time) to have my
ass handed to me for some imaginary shit that went down between my
SIL and one of my friends. I don't care who did what or who started
what, I am NOT responsible for her hurt feelings, lack of spine,
narcissistic/histrionic/borderline personality disorder. Fuck her for
putting sineater and me in the middle of this.

And very very sorry for venting at you....it's not your fault and I'm
sure you don't need any of this shit on top of your RL challenges
these days.

I'm sorry.

My email to him this a.m.:

Got your phone message. I was very tired & went to bed very early,
was not in the mood to get my ass handed to me on a plate before I
did so, so I did not call you.

I am really not sure what there is to 'fight' about or 'work out'

The only "this" that I am aware of is that Monday night apparently
you was offended by one or more of my friends. I'm sorry that
happened, I wanted everyone to have a pleasant time. However, I don't
control your or my friends' thoughts or feelings, not everyone in
this world is going to get along with everyone else. Them's the
breaks.

If someone offends you, it's up to you to say, immediately and
directly, TO the offending party: "hey, that's offensive", "hey,
let's agree to disagree and change the subject", or LEAVE. I am not
going to force people together who don't get along, we do enough of
that at Family gatherings.

If you have a problem with me, you have yet to identify what exactly
*I* said or did to make *you* upset. If there is something I did or
said, I am not aware of it. Please make me aware of it.

If this is about Nikiyoy or ladydreamtime, I cannot and will not attempt to
control my friends actions or behaviors. That is not my problem or my
responsibility.

I'm sorry if you had a bad time, it was really not my intention to
gather a bunch of people together, spend a lot of time and $ cooking
and cleaning and preparing for their visit, just to make them all
miserable.

Love you, bro.

From:

evile

E
May 25, 2005

what he said:

What I wanted to say:

I've told you before, and I'll tell you again:

If Skye_ds has a problem with me, then it is up to Skye_ds to step up
to the plate and work things out.

I will not have you in the middle of yet another 'disagreement' with
the two of us. And, truthfully, I have NO clue why she's upset at me;
she was bitching about Sharjinka and I suggested she back off and give
it some time and then maybe try again to share her POV with Sharjinka.
Apparently this was taken as offensive; I have no idea, she didn't
say anything directly, she just logged off ICQ. Which leaves me
going "well, did she have to go do something at work, did she have
computer problems, or is she pissed?" And then posted something on LJ
which seemed more aimed at Sharjinka ("volcanic" emotions, definitely
NOT me!)

And since, as usual, I have no clue what (if anything) I did 'wrong'
I dont' have any idea how to make it right with her.

I told her I am available to talk via phone, email, LJ comments, or
ICQ, but that since I dont' know if I'm someone she wants to talk to
right now I won't be making the first move.

I love you. If you had a fine time Monday night and we are OK with
one anothers actions and behavior, there is no reason for you and I
to 'fight'.

If Skye_ds has something to say to me, she needs to say it to me
directly, herself.

What I said:

I've told you before, and I'll tell you again:

If Skye_ds has a problem with me, then it is up to Skye_ds to approach
me and work things out.

I will not have you in the middle of yet another 'disagreement' with
the two of us. And, truthfully, I have NO clue why she's upset at me.
So if she has a problem with something *I* did or said, she needs to
let me know, directly.

From:

evile

E
May 25, 2005

> what he said:
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:11:49 -0500
From: sineater

Hey, whoa, hold on. I had no problem there.
I called because I want to know what happened with Skye_ds yesterday
afternoon. We don't have to talk about it now, and as I said, I don't
want to fight about it or "hand you your ass".
When I emailed you yesterday I was not offended by anyone, I was
worried
that I had offended somebody else, because I do that. I had a really
good time and just got worried I had bugged some other people. That
was
all. I didn't know you and Skye_ds were having problems until I got
home.
Let's not worry about this right now. Go on your vacation, have some
fun, take it easy.
I love you, and I don't want to make your life difficult. I think
we're
petting the sweaty things, here.

From:

evile

May 25, 2005

--- sineater_ wrote:
Cool. Don't worry about it. Let's let things chill
while you're gone, if
it's worth it we'll worry about it later. Meantime
don't worry about it
now. Me, I'm going to take a nap. --oh wait, I have
to answer phones. :(
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Me to sineater:
OK

I am probably going to be at Sharjinka's for
craft/whatever night tonight (I'd be leaving hte house
around 7pm, you could try to call me before then,
maybe?) , and probably poly dinner tomorrow, and then
Friday I'm going to San Antonio to hang out with Rio.

But if you wanted to get together to talk 1-on-1
sometime, everything but Friday is negotiable.

Lunch or dinner tomorrow, maybe? Dinner tonight?

Sorry to be getting back with you so late; I was over
at L&B's all day.

Posted the icq convo that seems to have been a problem
in my LJ for you to see; I really don't think I did or
said anything wrong, and unless A. tells me different,
I am going to assume she had something else come up
and needed to go offline.

Love you.

=E
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[here is what I put in LJ after c&P'ing the ICQ from Tuesday)

FYI
sineater, this is locked to you only.

ICQ yesterday w/A ( Read more... )

As soon as I posted that, she went offline and didn't come back on. I
don't have any way of knowing if she had a work crisis, a problem
with the computer, or took offense at my words. And her subsequent LJ
post re: volcanic tempers seems more aimed at Jinx, but my words
stand whether she's upset with Jinx, or me, or both. You got a
problem with me, you approach me directly and clearly state what
exactly was done or said by me to offend you. Otherwise nothing gets
fixed or changed.

If you were asking for facts, info, there it is. If you were looking
to fight with me on her behalf, that's not going to happen.