evile: hey, I'm back on my own machine, in my own cube at work again!
SkyeDS: welcome back to the world of the online living!
evile: yay :)
SkyeDS: methinks I'm going to do another banishing come the next dark
moon
SkyeDS: the rejects have formed a nother mutual hate society, since
they weren't getting our attention before
SkyeDS: on a similar note I hope that msg at midnight is the last
such you receive :(
evile: Oh. I guess they still aren't getting mine.
SkyeDS: I find it interesting that when I send all his negativity
back to him, the next thing he does is draw Chris Loy to himself
evile: *shrug* I turned the volume down on the machine before bed
last night. He can rant and scream at hte machine all he wants, if it
makes him feel better. Obvously he's feeling pretty powerless and
miserable if he has to lash out like that.
SkyeDS: Ms Negativity Magnet 2005
SkyeDS: I'm surprised he hasn't done same to us
SkyeDS: are sineater and I not more to blame than you and Lynn?
evile: Oh, I didn't realize kaleon and chris loy are in touch.
SkyeDS: yep
evile: Oh, he ignored our cousin Donna when she went to visit
yesterday--she lives in alabama and last time she was in TX was for
nanny's funeral.
SkyeDS: same old same old where the rejects are concerned, both of
them
SkyeDS: we can't get skye's/sineater's attention any other way
SkyeDS: so we're going to use LJ to do it
evile: oh well. I don't pay much attention to chrisloy, anyway, and
haven't responded to any of kaleon's posts in my LJ after the first
one kind of surprised me into it.
SkyeDS: and since you've shown no interest in the mutual hate skye
society, c hris has.
SkyeDS: <shrugs>
evile: feh.
SkyeDS: I find it ironically fitting that he attracted her to himself
after I sent all his shit back to him and told it to stay there.
evile: ack. that's true.
SkyeDS: and I fucked up before I realized what the new tactics were
SkyeDS: but I won't do that again
evile: *nod* good plan.
SkyeDS: with regard to the new tactic, I could just stop reading
comments to your posts
SkyeDS: and your friends altogether
SkyeDS: but you have too many interesting friends so I'm not gonna
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: seems like CL is trying to court Julie real hard
SkyeDS: didn't she unknowingly attack Julie over Poly Big Fun?
evile: yeah, they have some things in common (kids, etc.)
SkyeDS: I am proud that I have restrained myself and refrained from
posting that the Rejects need to Get a Life, Have Some Pride, and
Move On
evile: hee.
SkyeDS: Her husband won't speak to me anymore so I'm going to be best
buddies or whatever else with a man she dumped (what 3 times)
SkyeDS: and no matter what sineater tells me about his personal
situation, I'm going to believe kaleon instead (who tried to get rid
of sineater for 7 years and is known to be truth challenged)
evile: sad.
evile: she has so many problems of her own, but instead of focusing
where she can do some good, she gets in other people's business.
SkyeDS: no shit, amen
SkyeDS: two people who don't have decent jobs if jobs at all
SkyeDS: lousy living conditions
SkyeDS: lousy health
SkyeDS: lousy love lives (or they wouldn't be so obsessed with mine)
SkyeDS: and all they can find to do is meddle in our affairs, when
we're perfectly happy
SkyeDS: anyway, I have declared my LJ and my life a no drama zone and
anyone who doesn't like it, I won't name names ([brother A], rubber_pig, Chris,
kaleon) can goplayintraffichaveaniceday
evile: yup. Last time kaleon contacted me, I told him I hoped that
everything he was working towards woudl work out for him. I really
do. If his life was better and more interesting, he would lose his
unhealthy focus on things in Austin.
SkyeDS: I wonder if he's noticed that you did not friend him back
when he friended you
SkyeDS: I mean, gawud, people, get a fucking clue already
SkyeDS: Chris still has sineater friended even after he told her himself
to get lost and why, because she thinks she can "save" him.
evile: whatever. I got a really good book a few months ago called "to
be an anchor in the storm" and it basically says you don't ever try
to 'save' people. Behaving towards them in that way only victimizes
them more.
SkyeDS: learned that the hard way with my sister
SkyeDS: that situation was never as bad as [brother A]/rubber_pig
SkyeDS: quit trying to save her, and lo and behold, she started
coming to me when she felt like she might need to be saved.
evile: yup. work on the relationship YOU have with the person, don't
try to control their behavior, or tell them ugly stuff about other
people, just make sure the lines of communication are open between
yourself and the person you care about. Don't focus on outcomes, just
build trust
SkyeDS: CL obviously doesn't get that
SkyeDS: even IF sineater needed saving, she's the last person in the
world he'd let do it now
SkyeDS: because her method of trying to save him alienated him so
evile: yup. sineater has never liked to have people up in his business.
SkyeDS: as for kaleon wanting to save sineater, after 7 years of abusing
sineater himself (mentally and emotionally), yeah, right. what.evar.
evile: sad.
SkyeDS: if the two of them weren't so annoying with their public
idiocy, it would be funny, I guess, in a mixture of ha-ha and ironic
SkyeDS: I had been wanting to test the waters again at Polys, to see
if I could spend some time just sitting and listening to kulilinei and/or
ladydreamtime
SkyeDS: now I feel like I can't go because CL will think it was
because of her
evile: it's sort of like watching retarded children playing with
their poop in public...it will only bother you if you look or get
close enough for them to touch you :P
evile: CL only shows up at first wednesday and poly 101, and then
VERY rarely.
SkyeDS: I am so tired of everything I say and everything I do being
put under their distorted little microscopes
evile: *shrug* retards playing with poop.
SkyeDS: ya. Next time I go to Polys I'll bring gloves and lysol :D
evile: there's usually enough people at 1st Wednesday so that you
don't have to hang with people you KNOW you dont' get along with. You
may end up sitting near a stranger who eventually bugs you, but odds
are good that the good company outweighs the bad
SkyeDS: last time wouldn't have been bad if I had stayed with sineater at
your end of the table.
evile: maybe.
SkyeDS: and, I was thinking, in probably far distant future, ladies
night would be nice, I could hang with Sharjinka and feel comfortable
that way. And I know CL doesn't go there, so I won't be under a
microscope
evile: Just FYI, depending on who's hosting girls night, you may or
may not be invited. CL is definitely not on anyone's list to be
invited personally.
SkyeDS: ya, I came away with that understanding after the rifka thing
evile: if it's ever at a coffee houe or restaurant, I'll definitely
pass the info on to you. We figure public places are neutral ground,
ya know?
SkyeDS: I would have enjoyed melting pot but no $
SkyeDS: that is changing Monday you know
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I will feel more comfortable if Jinx is there.
evile: *nod* She had mentioned maybe having girls night at her place
sometime.
SkyeDS: it's not on my immediate list of things that need doing
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: but it is nice to know that when I want to, I can do it,
without it being subjected to teh microscope
evile: yup
SkyeDS: had wanted to take sonar0m to GWNN when we first started out
together, and kaleon threw a fit
SkyeDS: "you're only going there because I go there"
SkyeDS: riiiiiiight.
evile: "what happens at Girls Night STAYS at Girls Night" :)
SkyeDS: I so want to be where I know you're going to be, just because
your'e going to be there, that's why I broke up with you (more than
once)
evile: well, there's Voyagers. And kaleon's umptyhundred miles away
now, so who gives a crap what he thinks of where you're going and why.
SkyeDS: he also had Pagans Night Out staked out too. nevermind that
he went to his first one with *me* and I had been going on and off
for years
SkyeDS: I only have one question, and it won't ever be answered, so I
try not to think about it too much too often
SkyeDS: why me?
SkyeDS: why can't these people find something in their own lives to
obsess about, especially if they're so damn happy as they claim to be?
evile: *shrug* No clue.
SkyeDS: well, that they aren't as happy as they say they are is
apparent
evile: yup
evile: easier to fixate on something external and fuss about it than
fix your own stuff.
SkyeDS: life is much easier when you don't give a damn about what
other people think
evile: I guess.
evile: I care what some people think. But not what random strangers
think
SkyeDS: I'm going (insert place here) because I want to, I don't care
who else is going to be there, or what they're going to ascribe to me
by way of motive
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I cannot control my reputation, just my character
SkyeDS: you can't go (here) because CL will be there, kaleon, or Bridget,
or whomever, that sucks, no more of that shit.
SkyeDS: I thought I went to University to get away from High
School. Perhaps I am mistaken about that.
evile: yup. and if you show up and behave graciously, consitently,
eventually that one thing that someone heard about you once will fade
in the face of the reality of you here & now, being a decent person.
evile: rumors only work when enough people don't know the people
involved or the situation well enough to make their own decision.
SkyeDS: or refuse to think for themselves even when they do have
enough information
SkyeDS: but I can't control t hat, so t here's no point in fretting
over that either
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: I have enough bugs to shoot at without other people throwing
more at me
evile: I was well known nad well liked enough by the time
brandyeileen pitched her hissy in the poly yahoo group, that people
just kind of laughed at her attempt to make me look bad
SkyeDS: fairly common for people to hang themselves if you give them
enough of their own rope]
evile: I'm not sure how things would have gone if I'd been new to
the group at that point & had that blow-up with her. Or how it may
have been different in person. Or how it may have been if she was the
established group person with a bad opinion of me that she'd shared.
evile: But CL and kaleon, well nobody remembers kaleon, I'm sure, and
CL doesn't show up often enough for people to really know her, and
the people who DO know her remember her as the person who tried to
shoot down Big Fun without knowing anything about it or who was
organizing it...so ti's not like they have fan clubs anywhere.
evile: Kili has a circle of admirers, but she's also rarely in
attendance at poly dinners.
SkyeDS: other than Robin I doubt I have any interest in whomever is
in her circle
SkyeDS: and I think knighthorse and I would have been just fine if it
hadn't been for her
SkyeDS: Robin knighthorse and I were having a reasoned, mature exchange of
differing ideas until she got involved in it
SkyeDS: I will have to admit to childish, prurient desire to watch
her get a smackdown from ladydreamtime over her insult to rainking. but hey,
at least I"m honest.
evile: One of the reasons ladydreamtime has a place of respect in the BDSM
and Poly communities is that she does not lose her shit publically
SkyeDS: don't know that verbally addressing someone's bad behavior is
losing one's shit publicly?
evile: No, but she handles things very coolly.
SkyeDS: that may be, but I seem to remember that Kil was careful
enough not to even potentially misbehave where ladydreamtime could catch it,
probably for good reason
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: Scrith (who is her Other?) made an effort to specifically
invite us back
SkyeDS: I thought that was nice
evile: Scrith is a very nice person.
SkyeDS: by now I know who in the SCA to avoid and who not to (to an
extent, new pitfalls can always be uncovered)
SkyeDS: and even moreso in t he HFS
SkyeDS: there's got to be a way to do the same in polys if I am ever
so inclined
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: we were going to have a mounted security interview SUnday but
the girls are two inches too short
evile: oh, that sucks!!
SkyeDS: you might find the Test interesting.
www.mountedsecuritypatrol.com (employment, then horse candidate, then
training)
evile: hm, nothing's coming up. Oh well.
SkyeDS: that might not be the right site
SkyeDS: and puter is slow because I'm installing and running avg,
adaware and spybot for the first time
SkyeDS: try just mountedsecurity.com
evile: http://www.mountedpatrol.com/training.cfm
is that it?
SkyeDS: bad me, yes.
SkyeDS: alpha & omega
evile: Ok. cool.
SkyeDS: I told the very nice guy this morning, with regard to, all
the interested people's horses so far are too short
SkyeDS: well, this is central texas. we rodeo here, and other
western stuff.
SkyeDS: western horses tend to be short, and tanks
SkyeDS: it isn't that we don't have tall horses here, it's just that
they're usually English - hunter/jumper/dressage
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: those people aren't usually interested in things like mounted
patrol
SkyeDS: and their horses, while tall enough, there's no fucking way a
highstrung hotheaded english horse is going to do squat on that test.
SkyeDS: Bridget would be the first to tell you that her Lippi mare
Moose couldn't pass it
SkyeDS: I figure, get enough horses that are tall enough that can
pass it, good for you, no reason to settle
SkyeDS: doesn't look at this point like that's going to happen, and I
figure the client won't wait forever, so they may be back
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: I would like to see what they're using as a teeter totter
evile: looks like a pretty thorough program.
SkyeDS: really good book on police methods of bombproofing I've been
meaning to get
SkyeDS: but I know I can get it online cheaper thru a bookclub than
in store
evile: probably :)
evile: I love amazon.com for that.
SkyeDS: I'm going to join an equestrian book club whose prices are
even lower, and w hatever I can't find there, I already have saved as
wish list on amazon
SkyeDS: do love amazon
evile: oh, cool.
SkyeDS: aeclectic.net > drool > go to amazon
evile: *nodnod*
SkyeDS: I can't think of a better gift than a gift cert to amazon
personally
SkyeDS: I gave my mom a good sized one for Xmas
SkyeDS: having remembered that I got one for my birthday last year :P
evile: Yeah, my friend J-law's bday snuck up on me this year, so that's
what I got her. She got Reidel "O" glasses :)
SkyeDS: it would probably be good if I ate lunch before like 3 pm
evile: yup
SkyeDS: I get busy doing stuff and don't realize I"m hungry until
it's painful and begins to affect my mental acuity
evile: that happens to me at home sometimes.
evile: Sweetie's got the living room wrecked, so I havent had room to do
an exercise video (even if the vcr or dvd player was connected to the
TV, which I doubt, since he got the projector) But now my work room
computer plays DVDs and I have adequate floor space, so I'll be
trying to get back into a good exercise routine now.
evile: Plus it's nice outside now, so I can walk.
SkyeDS: I have so wanted to be outside for the last week
evile: it's been beautiful out. Sunday at Excalibur was gorgeous &
then I took Monday off & just had a nice day at home, windows open,
puttering in the yard a bit, etc. :)
SkyeDS: bought this cav hat with lots of feathers to go with this
gorgeous black silk garb blouse I bought
SkyeDS: and the wind Sunday was too strong for the hat
evile: oops!
SkyeDS: but wind not withstanding I hope this weekend is like last
SkyeDS: I"m going to make some obstacles to take to the park for
bombproofing
evile: drandmir Sunday, then?
SkyeDS: nod
SkyeDS: I may start going to Morconor on Saturdays in some instances
in future
SkyeDS: Waco isn't much further away than Gtown
SkyeDS: 70 miles, straight up US77
evile: that would be fun
SkyeDS: this weekend last weekend off for a bit
SkyeDS: events Apr 8, Apr 15, Apr 22
SkyeDS: off eeyore's weekend
SkyeDS: and if May is like last year there's an Eq event every single
weekend
evile: wow, busy!
SkyeDS: I begin to perceive a pattern. couple of months in spring,
couple of months in fall
SkyeDS: guess if you included War though, that would be 3 months in
spring, and 3 in fall
SkyeDS: all spring, all fall (smart witch, smart)
evile: that's pretty much the best weather for being outside...
SkyeDS: ya
SkyeDS: although there's SCA every weekend all year round somewhere,
I meant eq events - which are more weather dependent than just about
anything else
SkyeDS: the heavies, rapiers and archers will play in any damn weather
SkyeDS: and just don't have time to attend A&S only events
evile: I can see that.
SkyeDS: I didn't even see the inside of the A&S tents at War, or take
classes, must remedy that next year :|
evile: sounds like there's a lot that goes on at a war.
SkyeDS: probably comparable to living at TRF for an entire week
SkyeDS: if I had sufficient property I"d be hosting Wars and Ren
Faires too
evile: a lot of work to put something like that together.
SkyeDS: wouldn't be in the bidness long though if everyone trashes my
place
SkyeDS: we were the last of the Eqs to leave Kings Arrow and when we
did, you couldn't tell we'd been there
evile: that's very cool.
SkyeDS: Daddy = big camper, conservationist. I have been skooled
since I wuz liddle
SkyeDS: would have been that way anyway, out of my pagan nature
evile: heh. you'd be surprised what kind of stuff I've heard from the
mouths of 'pagans' re: environmental concerns
SkyeDS: lot of trashy pagans out there, who also think patchouli is a
substitute for soap and water
evile: yup
evile: Niki's new boy had never smelled patchouli before Excalibur :P
SkyeDS: oh no, poor boy :(
SkyeDS: I've started noticing a lot of migraneurs are scent triggered
and sensitive
evile: heh. it was the patchouli bath salts at the apothecary's
booth, s that's not a bad first experience.
evile: I know Donna used to get migraines because of smells...
SkyeDS: I worked for a lady attorney who required that I wear NO
makeup, NO perfume, and that all my detergents be scentless
evile: she was so happy when I took her to Crabtree & Evelyn and
didn't get a headache. I think it was artificial scents that upset
her head.
evile: it would suck to be that sensitive.
SkyeDS: at State Farm in the Chase Bank Building there was a man who
wouldn't get in the elevator with women, at all, because of it
evile: wow, poor guy.
SkyeDS: although I've known men to bathe in cologne rather than soap
and water too
SkyeDS: so avoiding women isn't going to avoid all of it
evile: we had a supervisor here who did that. he was an obnoxious
little man, anyway, the scent just helped him overwhelm more people
at once.
SkyeDS: I'm not deaf, I'm trying to ignore you! LOL
evile: he ended up retiring under mysterious circumstances.
SkyeDS: "we were traveling at half the speed of smell" Ron White
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: time to go home
evile: 4 minutes, but close enough, I guess, to start making the
rounds.
evile: see ya manyana - april fools day :)