evile: Hi :) How was your weekend?
SkyeDS: yesterday 				afternoon was lovely. I rode around my property, 
including 				the acre or so that is across the creek. How did the 				
entertaining go?
evile: Very nice. Jeanne & Mark were 				very low-maintenance guests. I 
even got to sneak off for a 				while on Saturday & do stuff I wanted to 
do :)
SkyeDS: 				awesome :)
SkyeDS: I have court date on Thursday morning 				because PD decided to 
give me a ticket for something that 				isn't illegal
evile: yuck! When did this happen??
SkyeDS: 				and then Thursday afternoon the Chamber of Commerce and the 				
paper are doing a ribbon cutting at the house :)
SkyeDS: 				last July.
evile: wow...suck (about the ticket). Good about 				the ribbon cutting.
SkyeDS: and then Friday right after lunch, 				we have a SOAH hearing 
that I get to go to, but it means I 				have to go to lunch w/ Hugh & the 
client.
SkyeDS: but 				I"m excited about it.
evile: That sounds cool.
SkyeDS: 				met my neighbor across the creek, and I like him alot. I 
invited 				him to fish on my pond.
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: speaking of 				guests, have you had [brother A] & Co's company much 				
lately?
evile: Nope. He is pretty much moved to San 				Antonio. I think they 
might have come up Friday night & 				stayed at L & B's but I 
haven't talked to [aunt L] 				recently, so I don't know.
SkyeDS: Tanglewood nursery has 				already budded wisterias for $10, 8 
foot tall redbuds for $25 				and 5 gal MLs for $20 (and they're closer 
than red 				barn)
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: and they're having a sale first 				weekend of April, which is 
when Karen wants to take me 				shopping
evile: That will be fun!
SkyeDS: what did you slip 				off to do Saturday?
evile: Went to Natural Magic's party & 				Barad-Duin for a bit with 
Sunshine.
SkyeDS: sounds like 				potential for fun, weather permitting
SkyeDS: (the weather is 				not always the same in Austin as it is at 
home, so I don't 				know what your weather was like here)
evile: It was really 				nice. Muggy, but not that bad.
SkyeDS: anything or anyone 				interesting at BD?
evile: Met up with some other friends at 				NM, which was nice. There is 
a big garage sale on the 3rd, 				which I'd love to do, but it's 
Spamarama that day. Oh 				well.
evile: Kim is back in town, apparently for good.
evile: 				She is apparently going to try and do damage control on Alex's 				
term in office.
SkyeDS: Kit (Vallendemir) said she wanted 				to (when I was at 
Shadowmist last)
SkyeDS: lol
evile: 				And she's with Kit now, romatically, I suppose.
SkyeDS: 				Kim???
SkyeDS: Kim Green?
SkyeDS: he was "semi dating" 				Kim Bush
evile: Yup. Kinda unbelievable.
SkyeDS: I can't 				see Kim Bush (from SA) willing to share with Kim 
Green 				(Terwin's now ex?)
evile: I didn't know he was dating anyone 				else, or whatever. But Kim 
said she and Kit are an item, and 				everyone else could see it coming 
but she never did.
SkyeDS: 				/me arches an eyebrow well past her hairline
evile: the good 				news is, with all that NRE going on and another 
person's 				romantic life to meddle in, Kim will probably be out of your 				
business for a while, at least.
SkyeDS: I told you about 				Kim Bush's treatment of Kit at Denny's right?
evile: I don't 				think so.
SkyeDS: she sat in his lap with his arms around her 				all night
SkyeDS: then as I was leaving Denny's around 2:30 in 				the am to come 
home
evile: She is a kid.
SkyeDS: she 				literally hissed at me like a cat
SkyeDS: no shit
SkyeDS: 				hissed at me
SkyeDS: declared "mine"
SkyeDS: 				twisted his arm around his back
SkyeDS: and pulled him back 				into Denny's by his hair.
evile: This is "princess 				sharheena' or whoever from Live Oak, right?
SkyeDS: 				right
SkyeDS: Shaheena = Kim Bush....Sylvana = Kim 				Graves.
evile: She was fairly rude to me when I was there with 				Rio, Mike & 
Jaden. I kinda blew it off as the fact that 				she's like 17. 
SkyeDS: err not Graves, Green.
SkyeDS: I 				haven't been real motivated to do anything HFS lately
evile: 				Plus, if she was doing it 'in character' it might have been 
just 				part of her queenie act, so I should not be offended OOC by her 				
rudeness IC.
SkyeDS: although as I keep telling the 				officers, we need to start 
getting prepared for Eeyore's, 				like right now
SkyeDS: if you weren't IC she shouldn't have 				been IC and that would 
be no excuse
evile: Yup. That's 				coming up soon, too.
evile: *shrug* I see the pudgy little 				bitch maybe twice a year. She 
ain't worth my 				time/energy/breaking a nail.
evile: Kit could do better than 				either of those choices, IMHO. He's 
the pretty kilty boy, 				right?
SkyeDS: I told Kathleen that BD would make unbelievable 				amounts of 
money if we got permission to sell rides and 				pictures. (within my 28 
foot portable round pen)
SkyeDS: 				she then refered me to Andy
SkyeDS: who all but blows me off 				every time I ask when they're having 
planning meetings (the 				Eeyore's people) so I can go with him to get 
permission
evile: 				ecch.
SkyeDS: and I get the feeling he won't even ask if I 				don't go with
evile: probably.
SkyeDS: and truthfully, some 				weekend in April the SCA is doing a kids 
specific event in 				Lexington, and we are more than welcome, nay 
invited, to be 				there.
SkyeDS: and I'm getting kind of used to being 				appreciated.
evile: nice.
SkyeDS: Kim Green (Sylvana) and 				Kim Bush (Shaheena) have always been 
thicker than white on 				rice
SkyeDS: and they are both possessive and insecure 				women
SkyeDS: this should be interesting.
evile: 				*shrug*
evile: Kim isn't playing 'Sylvana' anymore, she has a 				new character. 
she said something about how "Sylvana's 				still with Terwin"...
SkyeDS: some kids broke into 				Kelly's house and took all their cds, 
video games, DDR and 				video tapes (and they had HUGE collections of 
all)
evile: 				sucks!!
SkyeDS: it's just easier to keep the two Kims separate 				in discussion 
if you use character names.
evile: You're 				much nicer than I am.
SkyeDS: how do you figure
evile: I 				could think of lots of ways to keep them separate in 
discussion 				that are not at all nice.
SkyeDS: LOL
SkyeDS: I want to 				think I am a nice person but I keep being told that 
I have a 				nasty temper and am not a nice person
SkyeDS: and since I know 				many people with worse tempers than me, I 
don't know what I'm 				being judged relative to.
evile: Some people seem to take 				offense at any behavior that 
differentiates a woman from a 				piece of furniture.
evile: Jeanne & Mark are TTC so I had 				to keep a very serious rein on 
my CF/kid-hating tongue this 				past week. It was harder than I thought. 
SkyeDS: I'm sorry, 				TTC? something something children?
SkyeDS: (I get the context 				but I'm just curious)
evile: I guess I just never realized how 				many rotten brats and 
clueless breeders there are in the run 				of daily life & how 
judgemental I am of htem. TTC=Trying 				To Conceive.
SkyeDS: ah
SkyeDS: sineater is good with 				children
SkyeDS: but he says he doesn't like children
SkyeDS: 				but everyone else also notices that he's good with children 				
(despite what he says)
SkyeDS: although technically you 				don't have to like something to be 
good at it (I hate 				litigation but I'm damned good at it)
evile: I am also good 				with kids. And if they are at all intelligent, 
curious, and 				obedient to authority, I like them just fine. I just 
dont' 				want to ruin my body, my home, my finances, and my life with 
one 				of my own. If that makes me a child-hater, so be it.
SkyeDS: 				the people that notice that he's good with kids, have good 
kids, 				and it isn't hard to like them or be good around them.
evile: 				And people just don't fucking get it and pester you to death 				
when you say "I like kids, I just dont' want any of my 				own'...it's 
like some endless loop starts playng in their 				heads "if you like 
them, you should have one" bla 				bla bla.
SkyeDS: preaching to the choir, sister
evile: So I 				have to short circuit the baby-rabies blather by saying I 
HATE 				THEM
SkyeDS: I'm surprised that since J[sineater's mom] seems 				to feel like she might 
be about to die, that she isn't after 				me to be a brood mare like 
yesterday.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: 				she probably is after sineater and he has better sense than to 				
say boo to me.
SkyeDS: of course she hasnt' got better 				sense.
evile: nope.
SkyeDS: fact still remains that if you 				give him a choice of (insert 
chore here) or 				birdsitting
SkyeDS: he'd rather do just about any 				chore
SkyeDS: such as:
SkyeDS: do you want to deal with the 				stupids inside the grocery store
SkyeDS: or sit out here with 				Arthur
SkyeDS: and almost always he'd rather deal with the 				stupids in the 
store 
SkyeDS: (of course...the store is 				air conditioned...)
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: and when we are 				eating on the road, I sit outside on patio, 
and he 				orders.
SkyeDS: I don't understand why anyone would feel the 				need to be 
so "high pressured sales pitchy"
SkyeDS: 				I mean, seems to me I would make the observation that you'd 
be 				a good mother if you wanted to be and leave it at that
evile: 				I like rollercoasters, boats, and horses, but I don't want any 				
of them at my house.
SkyeDS: although Karen said many 				times ad nauseum that I should 
board, train and teach for 				money
SkyeDS: and I finally gave in
SkyeDS: but that's 				different than ad nauseum you should have a baby.
evile: 				yup.
SkyeDS: and Karen is just like that.
SkyeDS: (just 				about the horse business though, at least so far)
SkyeDS: she 				is a character.
SkyeDS: although I love that about her.
evile: 				If you get stuck boarding a nasty bad tempered horse, you can 				
always give it back to the owner. If you should happen to 				have some 
ADHD down syndrome, bad-seed mess of an offpsring, 				you're stuck with 
it for life.
SkyeDS: good point
SkyeDS: 				actually something I put in my boarding agmt too.
SkyeDS: what 				procedure I will follow if you bring me a problem child.
evile: 				it's good to have a plan in mind.
SkyeDS: I have to. for the 				protection of my other boarders.
SkyeDS: besides me of 				course.
SkyeDS: now -- I have three training rates... per 				hour, per week and 
per month
SkyeDS: and if someone brings 				me a problem that will take between a 
week and a 				month
SkyeDS: obviously I will need to board the horse
SkyeDS: 				and obviously I know it's a problemchild
SkyeDS: but that's 				different, if I have permission AND am being paid 
to fix the 				problem
evile: right.
SkyeDS: I have no clue how long it 				will take to get Randy's TB to 
neck and knee rein.
SkyeDS: 				racehorses never really get taught to steer, just run in 				
straight lines and stop.
evile: I guess every animal is 				different.
SkyeDS: some people would have taken offense to 				Karen's constant 
insistance that I do what I do for 				money.
SkyeDS: I didn't, but that's just me, but I would if 				she were 
insisting that I be a brood mare.
evile: fine 				line between meddling & encouraging in some cases.
SkyeDS: 				Karen is just an emphatic person. About everything.
SkyeDS: 				nothing lukewarm about her, she's very passionate, and most 				
people like that, you either love or hate.;
evile: 				yup.
SkyeDS: and Randy is just a big giant teddybear
evile: 				those sorts of partnerships are pretty common.
SkyeDS: I told 				him and Karen that his exwife is going to get a four 
foot 				steel enema from me in addition to whatever damage Karen does to 				
her, if the circumstance presents itself.
evile: 				heh
SkyeDS: women are so funny, most of them, in this "you 				are an enemy 
predator after the same prey" 				bullshit
SkyeDS: Kim Sr and Kim Jr are both like that.
evile: 				yup. why I have 0 female friends.
SkyeDS: you doo too, you 				have lots of female friends
evile: well,Okay, 3.
SkyeDS: 				Dee Dee and Rio and J-Law
SkyeDS: Kim 1 and Kim 2 both 				consider me a threat, for no reason, and 
while Karen knows I 				have an open marriage, she obviously doesn't 
consider me a 				threat.
SkyeDS: I am happy though if this means that Kim Sr's 				hooks are out 
of Travis.
SkyeDS: I doubt she will be able 				to manipulate Kit the same way.
evile: no tellin'
SkyeDS: 				Kit gives me the impression of having a strong enough 				
backbone.
SkyeDS: although he certainly does get 				around.
SkyeDS: this makes like the fourth woman in nearly as 				many months
evile: And this is bad because....?
SkyeDS: it 				isn't
SkyeDS: unless you happen to be one of the women, and 				you happen to 
be jealous, possessive and insecure
SkyeDS: 				as I know for a fact three of the four are.
evile: Were I 				gorgeous young & single, I'd be going thru the HFSers 
like 				bonbons.
evile: with about as much regard for their feelings 				as if they were 
sugar coated with chocolate....
SkyeDS: 				the only thing that prevents you from doing so is that you 				
aren't exactly "single" in your own mind.
evile: 				When you're pretty you can do whatever you want and most 
people 				will let you get away with it.
SkyeDS: I don't know what 				standard of pretty one has to be to get 
away with murder, 				although I have noticed the same thing
SkyeDS: however, you 				could certainly cut a swath if you were of a 
mind to
evile: 				There may be an element of 'charm' involved as well. 
SkyeDS: 				attractive and sexy aren't entirely defined by looks
evile: 				*shrug* I am done with my 'collecting pet boys' days. more 				
trouble than they're worth. I'd rather spend my money on 				myself.
SkyeDS: lol collections certainly are resource 				consuming.
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: am glad I've whittled mine 				down some (although I think of 
them as family, everyone else 				calls them the collection or the harem)
SkyeDS: which I think 				is insulting to them
evile: you call sonar0m 'baby'...which is 				arguably an unkind name.
evile: I figure as long as the 				terminology isn't actively offending 
those involved, who 				cares what anybody calls it.
SkyeDS: it is said with affection 				though and he knows that (I also 
asked him before I made it a 				habit)
SkyeDS: as far as offending them
evile: exactly. 				whereas if anyone ever called me 'baby' or 'momma' 
I'd 				probably blow a rod.
SkyeDS: people who use it in less than 				kind ways tend to do it around 
me
SkyeDS: and not around 				them
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: or I imagine sineater certainly if 				not M too would have set them 
straight
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: 				Kit made some remark to my friend Uriah (Hino) at SM
SkyeDS: 				about being added to the harem
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: and Hino 				laughed and volunteered.
SkyeDS: and Kit obviously was all in 				fun
SkyeDS: but women tend to use the terms catlike
evile: 				*shrug* why I only have 3 female friends...
SkyeDS: I belong 				to this yahoo group called polyfidelity (a subset of 				
polyamory)
evile: I'm even finding meow-meows in the poly 				group, which is fairly 
shocking.
SkyeDS: dedicated to the 				idea that polys can be faithful
SkyeDS: and someone joins the 				group and says that successful polyfi 
relationships are as 				much luck as hard work
SkyeDS: I haven't repied yet
evile: 				could be true.
SkyeDS: it aggravates though on some level that 				anyone would think 
any successful relationship had any degree 				of luck involved.
SkyeDS: I have yet to meet anyone in a 				successful relationship of any 
kind (work, personal, family 				whatever) that didn't work and work hard 
at it
evile: 				OTOH, I met Sweetie completely by chance, so that 
was 'luck' 				...the relationship itself is work. but meeting was luck.
SkyeDS: 				I suppose so
SkyeDS: although I personally believe that there 				isn't any such thing 
as chance, no matter how coincidental 				things seem to us at the time
evile: It's not like I went to 				PA with my elephant gun and said "i'm 
gonna bag me a 				man"....
SkyeDS: but I hadn't really considered meeting 				people to be part of 
the success of a relationship
SkyeDS: 				I was thinking of the relationship as being something that 
you 				did after deliberation upon meeting someone
evile: Ok.
SkyeDS: 				I think p eople who do take the approach of "I'm going to 				
take my mangun to wherever and bag me a man" set 				themselves up for 
failure, whether they bag one or 				not.
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: from context, I surmise that this 				person is male, and thinks 
that it's easier for women to have 				poly relationships than for men to.
SkyeDS: and someone from 				Seattle responded that the Seattle group is 
almost all women 				and has very hard time finding men.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: 				(you said that someone from austin polys is always wanting 				
everyone to move to seattle)
evile: Terri Avalon. 
evile: 				She actually wants Austin to do everything just like the 
Seattle 				Poly's do. fuck dat.
SkyeDS: I've heard a lot of comparisons 				between Ausitn and Seattle
SkyeDS: never having been, I have 				no clue
SkyeDS: but I would assume we're not twins.
evile: 				Our Sister City in that state is Portland.
SkyeDS: emulating 				success is good
evile: BTW, Did you see, This week's poly 				dinner is at Tuscany 
Market :) I'm such a little 				instigator.
SkyeDS: good for you :)
SkyeDS: I can't 				instigate for shit
SkyeDS: all I could do would be to go to BD 				and say, ok, I"m going to 
Tuscany for dinner, on my way 				out.
evile: I just find Terri's adamant insistence on "Austin 				must be just 
like Seattle" to be rather hypocritical, 				considering that the whole 
main thing of Poly is that you 				dont' have to do things just like 
everybody else in order to 				be happy & fulfilled.
SkyeDS: emulation is not the same as 				carbon copying
SkyeDS: and carbon copying probably would not 				be successful
evile: it's just that she keeps bringing it up 				and everyone else 
says "NO" and she will not stop 				insisting that Seattle is better and 
Seattle is right and we 				should do like they do.
SkyeDS: there are all sorts of traits 				in all the people I love and 
respect and admire, and I can 				emulate them to the best of my ability, 
but I will never be a 				carbon copy and shouldn't want to be
evile: I imagine that the 				Austin Poly group may reach some sort of 
terminal velocity 				and split into factions. TerriA's group will do 
things like 				Seattle does, and another bunch will continue to be the 
Austin 				bunch.
evile: (if Terri keeps being unpleasant & pushing 				the issue, that is.)
SkyeDS: /me nods
evile: Nikiyoy is 				having a party this weekend. I'm kinda tempted to go, 
but not 				overwhelmingly driven to go.
SkyeDS: I haven't even given 				thought to what I'm doing
SkyeDS: it's going to be predicated 				I would bet though on when I can 
get Wayne to shred my 				lowlands
SkyeDS: and on doing a controlled burn across the 				creek
SkyeDS: so that we can finish fencing
SkyeDS: I have 				a huge old willow tree :)
evile: cool.
SkyeDS: Terri and 				Karen make me feel to myself like I am lukewarm and 
tepid in 				comparison. Kind of like salt rather than pepper, or Mary 				
Poppins ish
evile: *shrugs* You are who you are.
SkyeDS: 				as if the trash on my side of the creek weren't bad enough, 
will 				have to be hauled away in several truckloads
SkyeDS: we're 				talking motors and a 14 ft boat size stuff here
evile: ooh, 				yuck.
SkyeDS: the trash on the other side of the creek is just 				as bad, 
although smaller
SkyeDS: and it is grown over my 				head
SkyeDS: and not safe to do anything on foot because of 				the 5 foot 
rattlers
evile: wow. That is a lot of 				work.
SkyeDS: so it will just have to be burned because I 				can't get a 
tractor in there either
evile: yup.
SkyeDS: 				and I still have to get it rezoned.
evile: That is a hassle. 				Paperwork/bureaucrazy is slow slow sometimes.
SkyeDS: I went 				over there on horseback two days running thinking I 
would be 				able to assess the whole thing on horsebacdk where it wasn't 				
safe to walk.
SkyeDS: but the girls didn't like it, not 				even with their trail 
training, and I chose t o respect 				that.
evile: good.
SkyeDS: they didn't refuse, they were 				scared.
evile: I'd rather be snakebit myself than have one of 				my babies bit.
SkyeDS: and if they were honestly scared and 				not just being spooky as 
an excuse to refuse, there had to be 				good reason.
evile: right.
SkyeDS: related no d oubt to 				being swampy and overgrown
SkyeDS: but I think when we get rid 				of the overgrown, assess the 
swampiness, we're going to have 				something good.
SkyeDS: wild onions down there, smell strong 				enough some days to make 
you cry
evile: yup
evile: brb, 				potty break