evile: TGIF!!! I bet you're excited :)
SkyeDS: indeed
SkyeDS: who's been plagiarizing?
evile: nobody you know :)
SkyeDS: <liked the reference to Wilde, I have always loved Wilde and
Austen best of that era
SkyeDS: am very happy with the spate of Wilde movies and Austen
movies recently
SkyeDS: trying to acquire them as the funds are available
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: Ideal Husband was just precious (Jeremy Northam, the woman
that played Galadriel, Blanchett? and that Murdoch fellow)
evile: I like her.
SkyeDS: and the Importance of Being Earnest with Mark Firth (Bridget
Jones Diary and Pride & Prejudice- Austen)
SkyeDS: and also the funny Murdoch fellow
SkyeDS: omg she was so gorgeous in ideal husband
SkyeDS: and Julianne moore was in it
SkyeDS: and minnie driver
SkyeDS: and they were posing for an artist, nude, with greek hoplite
helmets, crests and shields
evile: Julianne Moore is interesting; I am not sure what I think of
Minnie Driver yet.
SkyeDS: they were all great in Ideal Husband I thought
SkyeDS: was just curious about the plagiarizing as I am putting the
finishing touches of my documentation for Period Parrots
evile: That's going to be fun :)
SkyeDS: internet = more places to plagiarize from.
SkyeDS: what's neat about this is I can tie in Sir Francis Drake, who
is period, and visited South America, and is a far distant forebear
of my father's. The SCA should love that.
evile: neat ;)
SkyeDS: actually Daddy's forebear = Captain Robert Drake, who was I
believe Francis brother
SkyeDS: have you mentioned to this person that they're plagiarizing,
or do you think they will take the hint from your lyrics. love those
lyrics, never heard them.
SkyeDS: I don't know why people purport to love songs and you ask
them the meaning of the lyrics and they don't even listen to the
lyrics
evile: it's not anyone I know that well, so probably won't bother to
call them on it. Not worth it to me.
SkyeDS: the last creative thing I wrote was so stream of
consciousness, it wasn't even funny, and some English teacher ought
to bitch slap me and then shoot me in the face with a shotgun
SkyeDS: but the HFS kids, they don't care
SkyeDS: and I don't mean it was William Faulkner stream of
consciousness either
evile: *shrug* as long as it moves the story line foward and/or
mentions the 'stars' of the story, I think RP writing standards have
been observed.
SkyeDS: it was a lot of introduction and exposition and I just wanted
to get it out of the way
SkyeDS: I don't expect to be winning a pulitzer any time soon for my
rp
SkyeDS: although I used to spend a LOT of time and effort polishing
my white wolf writing, it was an outlet
SkyeDS: I get poetic with my prose, I have been praised and
criticized for that
evile: It just bugs teh hell out of me when people quote stuff in
their LJ's and don't bother to attribute their source. I know it's
not formal writing, but stuff gets quoted requoted metaquoted and if
the original writer wasn't hte author, it's not fair to keep
attributing it to them.
SkyeDS: I remember you telling me to put my name on my poems so
people knew they were mine
SkyeDS: that's a good idea. I just kind of figured people would know
they were mine, since they're obviously not "professional quality"
evile: I just think it's always a good idea to mention your sources,
if you got it from somewhere else.
SkyeDS: hehe I couldn't imagine anyone thinking my silly scribblings
and bibblings would have come from anybody else (and the one poem
that was someone else's, obviously much better than mine, the
Cartwright poem, which had his name and dates on it)
SkyeDS: if someone feels the need to borrow my silliness and credit
themselves for it, they be pretty desperate.
SkyeDS: but borrowing from canonical work and not crediting it is so
stupid, how do people figure they aren't going to get caught at that
evile: *shrug* I know people who quote comedians all the time and
don't credit the original writer.
SkyeDS: that's even more stupid. as more people I would wager are
familiar with comedic routines than with the classics nowadays
evile: no tellin.
SkyeDS: in the 8th grade our little group that went to every honors
class together had completely memorized every last word of Bill
Cosby's Himself
SkyeDS: we were in science class and reciting all the bones in the
body from memory
SkyeDS: and every time one of us had to be up there reciting from
memory the rest of us would be doing like Chocolate Cake in the back
of the room and giggling and being distractive
SkyeDS: I recently borrowed from Cosby to make a new Arthur story -
what Arthur likes best about stories is the same as songs, he wants
to hear his name lots
evile: *nodnod*
SkyeDS: "How Arthur came to be King Bird ~ the Sword and the Stone" ~
ala Bill Cosby
evile: hehe
SkyeDS: Bye Bye, Bird, I have to forage away from the Kingdom now,
don't mess with the sword in the stone, be a good bird, ok? sugars.
SkyeDS: So sineater leaves, and Arthur goes to remove the Sword from the
Stone
evile: aww,
SkyeDS: And sineater comes back to the Kingdom after a long hard day of
foraging, and there Arthur is, playing with his Sword
SkyeDS: And sineater said, what did I tell you about the Sword in the
Stone?
SkyeDS: and Arthur said, Bad boy. Stop it. Cut it out. Let go.
You KNOW better.
SkyeDS: Say you're sorry.
SkyeDS: And sineater said, didn't I tell you not to play with the Sword
in the Stone?
SkyeDS: And ARthur said, Pardon?
SkyeDS: And sineater repeated himself, and Arthur said, I love you!
SkyeDS: So sineater said, that's MY sword, give it back. And Arthur
said, HaHa.
SkyeDS: (end of story)
evile: hee, cute.
SkyeDS: I haven't figured out yet where to incorporate Arthur
classics like sineater is a big bird, Would you like to buy a bird, and
We're all going to die.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: anyway, that's an amalgamation of the sword in the stone, and
Bill Cosby's routine about his child and his coke
SkyeDS: and of course some of Arthur's favorite riffs
SkyeDS: you know Arthur gets the Pardon? and then I love you! from
sineater
SkyeDS: because if you ask sineater a question he doesn't want to answer,
the first tack he uses is to pretend he didn't hear you
SkyeDS: and if you repeat yourself so that he does hear you, he then
changes the subject.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: I came home one day and asked if Arthur had been a good bird
and sineater said he had been a brat
SkyeDS: so I asked Arthur, were you a brat today, and Arthur said,
Pardon?
SkyeDS: and I said, have you been a brat today. and Arthur said, I
love you!
SkyeDS: it didn't take it long to hit me that he sounded just like
sineater in both instances.
evile: not bad for a brain smaller than a walnut.
SkyeDS: three year old intelligence used to get whatever the two year
old is motivated for emotionally.
SkyeDS: they do parrot behavior more than they mimic words.
SkyeDS: one of the more well known behaviorists was called in to
figure out why this blue and gold had suddenly started physically
terrorizing this married woman
SkyeDS: and come to find out, the bird was bonded to the husband, and
watched the husband abuse her.
SkyeDS: (well, duh)
evile: sad.
SkyeDS: let's see. I"m not going to do anything about my husband
abusing me, but I'm going to call in and spend money on a behaviorist
to tell me what to do about the bird also abusing me.
evile: a lot of abused people go into a really different headspace,
it's a self protective thing.
SkyeDS: I know my priorities are fucked up, but I felt worse for the
bird
SkyeDS: as I feel worse for kids than I do adults
SkyeDS: adults can get themselves out of shit. if they don't for
whatever reason they don't, but they can
SkyeDS: kids and animals can't.
evile: exactly.
SkyeDS: we had a rash of extraneous stupidity from clients yesterday
SkyeDS: I wonder how some of these people continue to live and
breathe when they obviously are too stupid to accomplish those things
on their own.
evile: that's a hassle.
SkyeDS: client: may I speak to Mr. Barton? I transfer them to Hugh,
and they get Hugh all upset because they've gotten "a notice to
appear in court on March 16"
SkyeDS: Hugh says I doubt that, fax me the notice
SkyeDS: the notice, as it turns out, is for an informal settlement
conference (which is NOT court, it isn't even SOAH), and it's dated
for April 16, not March 16 (we're both gone March 16 for vacation)
SkyeDS: and to top that off April 16 is a Saturday ROFL
SkyeDS: I told Hugh he should be grateful that at least his secretary
reads better than that.
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: I've been telling Hugh for a long time that part of our New
Client INformation Package ought to include something to the effect
that "procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency
on ours"
SkyeDS: and so now I figure we should expand that to, "inability to
read for comprehension on your part does not constitute an emergency
on ours"
evile: seems fair
SkyeDS: I felt bad you know about missing the lesson last Friday
SkyeDS: so Justina wanted it Monday, and Monday it would have been
but it rained
SkyeDS: then she wanted it Thursday, so Thursday it was.
SkyeDS: then she called at 5 pm on Tuesday to see if I could do it
like right then.
SkyeDS: (called work mind you_
SkyeDS: and I said, um no, I'm at work in Austin and I"m not leaving
for another hour and a half
SkyeDS: so then she calls Wednesday to change it to Friday, when she
knows we're leaving for Houston right after work, and then driving
all the way to Mississippi, putting serious hours on the road
SkyeDS: and I said, ok, on the following conditions:
evile: wow...what is her deal?
SkyeDS: 1) if you aren't here by 6:30, tough
SkyeDS: 2) bring cash with you
SkyeDS: 3) don't drop him off in order to go get cash or your
checkbook. I'm not willing to babysit him one single minute past end
of lesson like I normally do without complaint, because as well you
already know, I'm leaving.
SkyeDS: if they aren't at the ranch by 6:30, we're loading up and
leaving right then.
SkyeDS: if she is there at 6:30 and goes to leave, she'll have to
take Marshall with her.
evile: sounds fair
SkyeDS: I do NOT want Marshall on my hands at 7:31 pm
SkyeDS: if I cannot avoid that he is, I'm going to put him in the
truck and call her on our way out and say where do you want me to
leave him.
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: I feel guilty about missing the lesson but this has the
potential of going way too far.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and I"m not fucking around with him either.
SkyeDS: they're getting exactly one hour of my professional time, no
more and no less
SkyeDS: if I get " I'm scared" out of him, he will pet/brush the
horse for one solid hour and then leave
evile: sounds like a win win.
SkyeDS: <mean bitch, not fucking around today
evile: I do think there's a difference between being a 'mean bitch'
and stating your boundaries firmly and sticking to them.
evile: nice does not equal doormat.
SkyeDS: I really can't figure out my reputation
SkyeDS: largely it seems people think I'm difficult to deal with
SkyeDS: I personally know I am not only not difficult, but I don't
have boundaries like I should have because I'm a lways trying to make
people happy
SkyeDS: and then these people who say I'm difficult to deal with, who
in truth are so accustomed to me playing willow the wisp
SkyeDS: then say I'm even more difficult to deal with when I do try
to establish boundaries.
evile: well, I figure it's mostly like training an animal. You say
no, keep saying no firmly (no anger or temper, just firm), until the
new behavior is engrained and does not need to constantly be
reinforced
SkyeDS: too, I don't use lesson money to pay the bills
SkyeDS: lesson money is spending allowance
SkyeDS: no skin off my nose if I lose a client whose being
unreasonable
evile: what I've seen happen (not with you per se but in general) is
that a new boundary is expressed, the boundary is transgressed, there
are no consequences for the transgressor. The transgressor starts
walking all over the boundary-setter, and there continue to be no
consequences.
SkyeDS: bidness person gotta figure out how much things are worth to
their bidness
evile: Finally one day the boundary setter explodes all over the
transgressor, and the transgressor is shocked, surprised, and hurt
because "i've been treating you like this for days/weeks/months/years
and you never said anything"
SkyeDS: hence why I wish people would quit using confrontational
synonymously with combative
SkyeDS: that is exactly what lack of confrontation brings about
SkyeDS: an ultimate explosion and combat.
SkyeDS: I'm a bidness person, I know exactly what's worth what to me,
and these are my boundaries.
SkyeDS: You don't like it, I'm not going to be hurt if you take yer
bidness elsewhere, good luck to you.
SkyeDS: (Justina, especially, will need it)
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: actually, if I don't set boundaries with training, I won't be
able to train anyone else's horses at all
SkyeDS: the whole reason I got out of it was really my own lack of
boundaries
SkyeDS: I couldn't stand watching someone destroy 6 days of work in 6
hours
SkyeDS: Randy and I talked about that
SkyeDS: the jist of it was, not in these words but, figure out your
boundaries, tell people what they are, if they don't like it, they
can do bidness with someone else.
SkyeDS: what a novel concept. I can say no.
SkyeDS: although I have to admit, saying no is almost as much torture
still as having to put my foot down and make unpopular decisions.
evile: I never have a hard time saying no, initially. But once I've
said yes once, I have a hard time going and saying no later on. (ie:
giving rides to polydinner, and stopping after a few months once it
becomes apparent that the person isn't grateful and isn't going to
pay gas money and is starting to expect it as a right rather than
recognize it as a favor)
SkyeDS: nodnod, habit
evile: person in question invited themselves along to Excalibur
Saturday. I am still trying to figure out the best way to tell him it
ain't gonna happen
SkyeDS: would something on the lines of "sorry, can't do it, wish I
could, but I can't, maybe better luck next time"?
evile: No I think I really need to make him understand that he's
asking a favor and people have a right to say no.
evile: He's a nice guy, funny, etc. but I need to enforce a boundary
now or else I'm going to blow up at him and that will be the end of
that. Not fair to either of us.
SkyeDS: nodnod
evile: I gave him the opportunity to chip in for gas $ last night and
he weaseled out of it. It's his parents credit card anyway, so why is
he being so stingy with it?
SkyeDS: I don't know him well enough to begin to hazard a guess
evile: I guess he wants to feel like he owes his parents as little as
possible...
evile: this is one of those grand opportunities to use the truth as a
can opener rather than a sledgehammer. I hope I don't fuck it up.
SkyeDS: Hugh just complimented me again on my ability to soothe
clients ruffled feathers
SkyeDS: I told him I really value those compliments highly, because
a) I know I'm completely socially inept and b) I'm very high strung
myself, so it's a real effort for me to deal with high strung clients
evile: good for you :)
SkyeDS: I say all that because, I have no good advice to offer you
for not fucking up
SkyeDS: just emotional support for whatever that's worth
evile: thanks :)
evile: sometimes it's good just to have someone to blow off steam
with...helps to lay out what's frustrating me, and figure out what
can be said/done to make it better.
SkyeDS: sounding board. Good Thing (tm)
evile: *nod* exactly. I appreciate it.
SkyeDS: <hugs> :D
evile: *hugs* Thank you :)
evile: Lots of good things to look forward to. No sense dwelling on
the small irritations.
SkyeDS: I'm cramping and tired and about to bleed. This is good
because it means I"m not pregnant.
SkyeDS: I drive 120+ miles every day. This is good because I have a
job to drive to.
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: I can go to the bathroom, which is good, because dialysis
SUCKS
SkyeDS: and I'm going on the first real vacation I've had in I can't
remember how long, and I have a memory like an elephant.
SkyeDS: and it's picture perfect outside.
SkyeDS: and I love my children, and I love my men.
evile: Y'all are going to have a great time at the sca event :)
SkyeDS: normally my pay periods are 11 days
SkyeDS: sometimes more, sometimes less
SkyeDS: this is going to put equal holes in two checks rather than
one big hole in one check
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: and the second check would have been a very unusual 14 day
pay period
SkyeDS: excuse me, 12 day pay period
SkyeDS: and I don't feel as bad, missing 3 days from a 12 day period,
as from an 11 day or less period.
evile: true.
SkyeDS: I decided we were doing war because I don't care what our
finances look like, we're paying ourselves first, dammit
SkyeDS: and you know what, it isn't going to kill us
SkyeDS: it isn't even going to hurt much
evile: that's good.
SkyeDS: I watch you. I learn.
evile: ...Ok. I guess that's good....
SkyeDS: I can pay for this in cash. Even t hough the kids are behind
on their rent.
SkyeDS: I have $300 on plastic ina ddition to cash in case of
emergency, but I don't plan to use it otherwise.
evile: cash is good.
SkyeDS: and I bet you're a happier person because you treat yourself
to vacations. Like Vegas etc.
SkyeDS: you spend money on yourself, you're happy because of it, and
you're financially responsible at the same time, ergo it must be
possible to do all those things at once.
evile: I sure hope so...
evile: 2005 is the year I finally kill my plastic debt. I've got a
plan & trying hard to stick with it.
SkyeDS: I was doing good. I got set back. When the setback goes
away, as it will, and as it already is in progress of doing, I will
go back to doing good again
evile: *nod*
SkyeDS: (ie putting money in savings and paying double on cards)
evile: It's theoretically possible I could get out of debt quicker,
BUT I would have to stop doing ANYTHING other than paying bills...and
I know that makes me depressed and unfunctional. So I will go slower
on paying debts, save money, and spend a little here and there on
things that make my life worth living.
SkyeDS: that works really well for you, and that's why I'm emulating
it.
SkyeDS: and i was SO proud of me for six months
evile: I hope it works for both of us, then :)
SkyeDS: and it enabled me to deal with a setback that would have put
me against an immovable wall had I NOT been good for six months
evile: *nod* Yup. I enjoy having a cushion, "just in case" and then
if the just in case doesn't happen, more $ for me to play!
SkyeDS: when I'm cheap I'm very cheap, and when I decide to blow a
wad, I blow a huge one.
SkyeDS: "why did you spend x # hundreds of dollars on native costume
from Egypt?"
SkyeDS: because I could :)
evile: heh. there ya go.
SkyeDS: I don't know if anyone's ever guilt tripped you or tried
about your trips and other pleasures, but you don't seem to let it
get you down or stop you.
evile: The nice thing about being an adult and having a job is that
nobody gets to tell me how to spend my money. After I take care of
my obligations to the household, the rest is for me to do with as I
please.
SkyeDS: damn straight. we can eat dessert first if we want to.
evile: hee. ABSOLUTELY.
SkyeDS: Imina go slipsliding into my grave with adult beverage in one
hand and something sweet in the other whoopin and hollerin thank you.
evile: *grinz*
SkyeDS: I was doing some research on Epicurus the other day, and I
shouldn't have been surprised, but Epicurean Hedonism is grossly
misused term now.
evile: imagine that :P
SkyeDS: way cool fonts page: http://fonts.lordkyl.net/fonts.php?
category=9&page=1
evile: I have Altenburg somewhere.
evile: OMG, I love felisviolaceous' new user icon. She is so incredibly
gorgeous. Too bad she's got such a lousy personality.
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/25993115/3402080
(thenakedredhead on LJ)
SkyeDS: look at her with the mute button engaged ;P
evile: easier said than done. girl is LOUD.
SkyeDS: earplugs :)
SkyeDS: or, alternatively, encase your ears between a pair of
desirable thighs
SkyeDS: <ducks and runs.
evile: heh.
SkyeDS: I know, bad Skye, bad, bad
evile: If I ever did a scene with her the first thing I'd whip out is
a ball gag.
evile: I think she has it in her head that everyone spends time with
her BECAUSE of her loudness, rather than in spite of it.
evile: I was hoping she'd settle down as she spent more time with scrith
(and ladydreamtime) but that doesn't seem to be happening.
SkyeDS: Ladydreamtime = fascinating. So is Kulilinei.
evile: I like them both an awful lot.
SkyeDS: you surround yourself with exotic, exalted personages.
evile: I do meet cool people. :)
evile: I had to apologize to everyone at poly dinner last night, for
being so totally nasty
SkyeDS: ther ear emuch better MG's to have big groups at.
SkyeDS: even Rundberg is better than downtown
SkyeDS: and there's a lovely one on 183/Anderson Mill
evile: Yeah. The one at 183 was the one Chance meant when she
suggested it.
SkyeDS: Hugh left his cell phone here
SkyeDS: I have instructions to call him when an important thing
happens, and his cell phone is here
evile: uh oh. Did he already leave for his vacay?
SkyeDS: plus his wife wants to change their lpans and I can't tell him
SkyeDS: because his cell phone is here
evile: dang...
SkyeDS: and I don't think he remembers at all that I need to get to
the SOS today before 5.
SkyeDS: I foresee a note in his chair in the very near future.
evile: oh dear.
evile: We just got totally caught up & I've got half an hour to kill.
Browsing igourmet.com is dangerous yet fun
evile: Cavalia's next stop is Toronto, apparently...thats' only a
$300 plane ticket...
evile: *sigh* I just love window shopping :)
SkyeDS: HUGS, need to go now
SkyeDS: wind to your wings :)
evile: have a wonderful trip!
SkyeDS: grazie belleza :)
