evile: hey 	there :)
SkyeDS: hola :)
evile: how's your Thursday going? I 	think I'm about to run out of
steam.
SkyeDS: steam? what's 	steam? lol
evile: *grinz*
SkyeDS: I want it to be the weekend, 	and I want it not to be family
reunion weekend
SkyeDS: oh 	well, in both instances
SkyeDS: I could probably be excused for 	missing the family reunion
since there's one every single year, I 	could afford to miss one here
and there but not when Stuart's 	crotchfruit are going to be there.
evile: *nod* it's important 	for you to be there.
evile: I am not getting too much interest in 	GWNN or HH this weekend.
I wonder what's up with that?
SkyeDS: 	nods.
SkyeDS: I'm wondering why pertinent questions like "where 	are we
going to camp" and "may we use (x) spaces to 	operate" aren't answered
SkyeDS: and questions like what are 	ticket prices are answered
evile: very puzzling.
SkyeDS: I 	would think that to vendors and performers both, the
questions I 	asked are a little more important.
SkyeDS: and my last offlist 	email with the requested photos for
badges was not answered at 	all.
evile: perhaps the camping question, at least, has been 	answered and
is in the archives.
SkyeDS: well, given that just 	recently Athos said that camping had
changed
SkyeDS: it 	wouldn't hurt him to answer our question
SkyeDS: plus how many 	people are camping with horses?
SkyeDS: we can't camp where 	everyone else camps
evile: nope.
evile: I was actually really 	impressed with Hojo & Thax's band last
night. I was going to 	go and support my friends' artistic efforts,
regardless, but I 	did actually enjoy the music.
SkyeDS: :D
SkyeDS: sounds like 	you had a good time
evile: I woke up pretty well this a.m. 	too,even though I stayed up
too late.
SkyeDS: I don't care to 	hear about it third or fourth hand from Lisalotte,
so no more flirting 	with Thax for me
evile: ??
SkyeDS: I don't know what part of 	they're both my friends and I don't
want to hear this people 	don't understand
evile: I guess I'm lucky, Lisalotte doesn't talk to 	me. :P
SkyeDS: if she talked to me, it wouldn't be 3rd or 4th 	hand
SkyeDS: seems like Liz and Thax do not enjoy connubial bliss 	together
anymore, so she complains bitterly about him being a 	male slut and
any female slut who indulges him, to every one of 	her friends who
will listen
evile: wow.
SkyeDS: and of 	course her friends, being *her* friends, blame the
entire 	situation on Thax
evile: I like them both.
SkyeDS: and nobody 	on either side wants to hear me say one more time,
it takes two 	to tango and the blame should probably be shared equally
if you 	insist on assessing blame
SkyeDS: I don't see why everyone is 	always wanting to lay blame or
place fault anyway
SkyeDS: 	things are they way they are, and that's just the way it is
evile: 	Thax flirts, but the one time I outbluffed him, it scared him
to 	death. I really don't think he means anything by it,or would 	do
anyting if given a real opportunty
SkyeDS: anyway, you're 	safe and I'm not
SkyeDS: <rolls eyes>
evile: Life 	becomes much simpler when you're not sexually available,
in my 	experience.
SkyeDS: I'm not sexually available but you can't tell 	anyone else that
SkyeDS: don't you know I have wild 3some orgies 	four nights out of
every week?
SkyeDS: and I'm always on the 	lookout to add as many men as I
possibly can to the harem?
evile: 	well ,but with suitable amount of negotiation between you and
your 	partners and potential partners, you COULD be.
SkyeDS: root canal 	= easier than the suitable amount of negotiation
evile: 	heh.
SkyeDS: living with two men = they play keep away with the 	tv remote
over your head, team up with male logic and say that 	they're
outnumbered
SkyeDS: when you point out that there's 	one of you and two of them
they say ok, not outnumbered maybe, 	but outgunned, no matter how many
of us there are to just one of 	you
evile: One is bad enough. I'd end up playing Wendy to a house 	full of
lost boys. No thanks.
SkyeDS: anyway, I used to enjoy 	playing with Thax but I got tired of
hearing about it later, 	basically, so I quit :|
evile: HFsers have a great capacity for 	gossip and drama.
SkyeDS: yes but I thought that's what the GAME 	was for
evile: lots of people can't or don't draw a line between 	fantasy and
reality.
SkyeDS: I am only 39% part time bitch, oh 	well
evile: I got 66%
SkyeDS: I know some people who would say 	that was a big
underestimation
evile: *shrug* those things are 	very subjective.
SkyeDS: happy for Julie and her new job 	:D
evile: me too.
SkyeDS: it's 1 pm, no wonder I'm 	hungry
evile: yeah. you should probably take care of that 	:P
evile: I hope Thax's interview today goes well.
SkyeDS: I 	didn't know he had one, but me too.
evile: One of those temp to 	perm things, he's already working the
job, now he's got to 	interview for it to become permanent. I think
he'll be 	fine.
SkyeDS: is it doing something he likes?
evile: *shrug* 	I'm sure it's something he is OK with doing
evile: ooh, I just 	found out what hte demo for this month's GWNN
party is. :) I am 	less than fond of the demo volunteer, but it should
be 	interesting.
SkyeDS: what is it?
evile: it's a f*ck 	machine.
SkyeDS: I would ask you to explain, but I'm not sure you 	can given
where you are
SkyeDS: machine driven vibrator? or 	more than that?
evile: nope. google search it sometime. f. or 	f-ing machine.
evile: I'm not sure if it's going to be one of hte 	commercially
available ones, or a home-made. I guess we'll 	see.
SkyeDS: some of them are quite expensive
evile: 	*nod*
evile: should be interesting, anyway. If it can keep her 	from
talking, all the better.
SkyeDS: probably not anyone I 	know LOL
evile: she's cute when she's being beaten or f.ed, but 	not so much
when she's wearing clothes and talking.
SkyeDS: I 	have heard much of GWNN parties, some of it contradicting
and 	ergo confusing
SkyeDS: about whether sex happens or not
evile: 	the rules on the website are fairly strict. Normally, no
penetration 	of any kind is allowed.
evile: and these are the rules for the 	every-other-month 'official'
parties, not private play parties at 	peoples homes, like Voyagers, or
the after-munch parties.
SkyeDS: 	and then there are the "dark" parties by invitation 	only
evile: this being an 'official' party, apparently it had to 	be
discussed with the board as to whether the f.machine could 	be
demonstrated fully, and it was decided yes.
evile: 	*nod*
evile: In my experience, female submissives are pretty much 	welcome
everywhere, at all times.
SkyeDS: given what I"ve 	heard about some of the dark parties, if you
wanted to watch that 	you could go down to Tijuana without an invite
if you've got the 	money
evile: *shrug* I've never heard of them or been invited to 	one.
SkyeDS: I understand they give new meaning to dog and pony 	show
evile: no thanks.
SkyeDS: that's what I figured you'd 	say
evile: I haven't heard of such going on in Austin, but I am, 	at best,
superficially involved in the GWNN /Voyagers groups, and 	that's about
it.
evile: I've gotten slightly more comfortable 	with some aspects
of 'furry' but bestiality will never be cool 	with me, I don't think.
It's too close to pedophilia, 	emotionally, for me.
SkyeDS: nods
evile: If consenting adult 	humans want to dress up and role play and
whatever...that's fine 	and cool, more power to 'em. But ...the rest
of it, not so 	much.
SkyeDS: I remember when Kelly was surprised that there are 	bestiality
videos to be had all over the internet
evile: 	thanks to portal of evil, I know about such things. I could
have 	happily lived without such knowledge.
SkyeDS: it's like The 	Freshman where there was a club for people who
thought they were 	paying to eat endangered species
SkyeDS: the more depraved, t he 	more money it's worth
evile: *nod*
evile: onyxlynxx and I have 	both observed that we're in kind of a no-
man's land, at times, 	being more kinky than our vanilla friends, but
much more vanilla 	than our kinky friends.
SkyeDS: I think I'm not too far away from 	same territory
evile: then some people consider fire to be edge 	play, so ..*shrug*
SkyeDS: some people find woman on top, lights 	on, anything anal, etc,
edgy
evile: this is true.
SkyeDS: 	I'm borderline vanilla since I'm into D/s, only the mildest
B/D 	and not S/M at all
evile: *nod*
evile: I figure as long as 	everyone is YKIOK, it's fine. Occasionally
I read a bit of 	condescention from certain gwnn folks, but...*shrug*
SkyeDS: 	gotta figure all subcultures are going to eventually
subdivide 	again d own lines of artistes/poseurs
evile: yeah.
SkyeDS: 	"well I'm the real thing and you're not so there nyah 	:P"
SkyeDS: there's a discussion on the ansteorra lists 	right now about
period nazis
SkyeDS: with valid points on both 	sides
evile: *nod* there are cliques and subgroups within the 	main
group...as long as pepole are cool with one another, it 	should not be
a big deal. The geek social fallacy list has been 	helpful to me.
evile: I need to go shopping this weekend. I have 	a black dress with
hot pink, and I want hot pink gloves and 	underthings to go with it.
SkyeDS: I wore black and pink to my 	senior prom
SkyeDS: black strapless gunne sax dress, pink toe 	shoes, pink roses
SkyeDS: and yes, I spent half my time up on my 	toes
evile: I'm going for a fairly 80s slutty look :)
SkyeDS: 	everyone thought I was crazy not to dye the shoes to match
the 	dress
SkyeDS: and not long after it became the latest thing for 	bms to wear
black and brides to wear pink
evile: heh.
evile: 	One of J-Law's big rules for her bridal party is *not* to dye
shoes 	and bags to match. She thinks (and I agree) that it looks tacky
and 	never exactly right.
evile: OMG, I totally love this. It's so 	very over the top, but I'm
sure I could come up with some garb to 	go with 	it.
http://www.heartsongs-crystal-wands-crowns.com/goddess_of_bounty.jpg
SkyeDS: 	you can't have it
SkyeDS: it's MINE
evile: *grinz* awesome, 	innit?
SkyeDS: ALL of them are
evile: heh. I was thinking one 	of the ones with danglies would be
more 'you'.
SkyeDS: I want 	one of each. Then I'd have the same problem figuring
out which 	one to wear first.
evile: *grinz*
SkyeDS: "Why don't I 	have three heads? <unbearable giggle>" ~ Tom
Hulce, 	Amadeus
evile: heehee.
evile: 	http://www.heartsongs-crystal-wands-
crowns.com/floral_crown_front.jpg
evile: 	or this one. Much more 	'you'.
http://www.heartsongs-crystal-wands-
crowns.com/crown_triple_moon_snake_star.jpg
SkyeDS: 	good lord
evile: other than the fact that they are totally non 	functional and
very specialized in their decorativeness, the 	prices are not bad.
evile: J-Law and I stumbled across this website 	while looking for a
nice tasteful tiara to go with her wedding 	veil. this site is not
that.
evile: I used to do up wish lists 	after I'd been Windows-shopping. I
haven't done that in ages. I 	may have to start again.
SkyeDS: I have unabridged encyclopaedic 	wish lists in my head
evile: Usually if I just have something 	where I can see it, that's
about as good as having it
evile: 	and some stuff, like the crowns...inspires me to see what I
can 	come up with in my work room.
SkyeDS: sineater made me a little 	crown out of posterboard and silver
lame that he painted and it 	looks so much like real metal people have
to touch it
evile: 	*nod* sineater is so talented.
evile: there's a lady in town who 	does similar, but her prices are
higher and her stuff isn't quite 	as delicate & 	pretty.
http://www.ayersdesign.com/jewels/index.html
SkyeDS: 	it was a cheap ass piece for a witches ball
SkyeDS: it's lasted 	forever
SkyeDS: yes, he is very good at what he does
evile: 	*nod* that seems to be the way sineater works.
evile: well, it's 	4, and it looks like I'm gonna get rained on
evile: *hugs* drive 	safe this evening, people get crazy when it rains.